IRC log of #harmattan for Thursday, 2011-12-01

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messertingI just checked dmesg on my N9 PR1.1, and see alot of these: ("msyncd invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0xd0, order=0, oom_adj=-1")00:04
messertingWhere do I report it?00:05
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javispedroso I tried "QML Grow Container" on Google, hit Feeling Lucky button, got a page titled "How to Grow Marijuana"01:11
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DocScrutinizerjavispedro: HI! :-D01:20
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GeneralAntillesOh, Google.01:23
GeneralAntillesInteresting to see RIM and Qt.01:23
javispedroand OpenTTD, and SDL, and many other01:37
javispedroSince I found out about their announcement a few months ago where they showed the unixy stuff they've ported, must admit my eye has started noticing RIM's still sizeable marketshare =)01:38
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npmlovely, there's already a n9 warez site: http://www.n9fanclub.com03:01
npmseemingly w/ copies of nokia store stuff on it.03:02
daniel_ois warez if the software is free, or are there any non-free softwares?03:03
daniel_ooh i see03:04
daniel_osigma player pro03:04
daniel_ook forget it :D03:04
npmi was thinking of downloading their copy of VoiceToGoog ( ) and comparing it to what i uploaded to ( )03:12
daniel_owould be good to know03:14
DocScrutinizer51npm: lart them03:17
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npmLuser Attitude Readjustment Tool, or "clue-by-four" meaning turning off the user's access to computer resources and the like03:21
npmhad to look it up03:21
daniel_ohahahaha LD03:22
npmof course DocScrutinizer51 may have been talking about
npmah, intel's favorite processor "Intel SA-1100 StrongARM processor"03:24
daniel_osounds reasonable :D03:24
daniel_ooh it's already time to go.. what did i do the whole day.. the n9 i stealing my working time :D03:25
daniel_osee u03:28
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phunguyhey gents04:17
phunguyany tips on the good old module "Qt.labs.components" is not installed error?04:18
phunguyI am installed the experiemental qt-components from Programs in Control Panel, but all the other harmattan stuff was already checked during the install04:18
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Sazpaimon_where can I change the supl server on my N9?04:45
Sazpaimon_i keep looking at the status menu for gps options thinking that it's fremantle04:45
merlin1991Sazpaimon_: I think there is no way todo that04:58
merlin1991at least I know none04:58
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yipdwdm8tbr, anyone else: I'm looking for documentation that explains how account plugins are loaded in Harmattan; do you know of any?08:14
yipdwI see some shared objects in /usr/lib/AccountsUI; I suspect libraries in there are loaded on-demand08:15
yipdwnot quite sure what those libraries are, though, as they have no symbols08:15
yipdwoh, never mind, ldd works08:16
yipdwnot a symbol manifest but at least it gives me something08:16
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strannik1No n9 in UK, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands,08:46
strannik1No n9 in UK, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands,08:47
Stskeepsyes, but i can buy it in poland, i'm happy ;)08:47
strannik1How much is it?08:48
strannik1Join the convo in #n9 ;)08:48
Stskeepsyou're talking here..08:49
strannik1Yea by accident :D me and psycho oreos are in #n908:50
strannik1After that it went downhill08:51
strannik1Oh , wrong place again08:51
* iekku offers some coffee to strannik1 08:52
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luke-jrStskeeps: poke08:55
Stskeepsmorn luke-jr08:55
luke-jrStskeeps: can you fix the SSL on meego?08:56
Stskeepsfix your own client08:56
luke-jrit's not broken08:56
luke-jrthe webserver is08:56
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luke-jr explains how to fix it I think08:56
luke-jrSSLCertificateChainFile is probably missing08:57
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luke-jrStskeeps: that's not the problem08:57
Stskeepsanyway, i'm not in meego IT08:57
Stskeepsfile a bug08:57
luke-jrAccess Denied to register an account08:59
luke-jroh, I already have one08:59
luke-jrI guess08:59
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macmaNStskeeps: sup sup. some awesome news re archos g9.10:11
macmaNStskeeps: should i go buy it?10:11
macmaNthis is the only table right now that can run mer like this?10:11
mecewtf irc-chatter and other and other qtquick apps keep disappearing (going black) on my N95010:12
macmaNre harmattan stuff, does anyone here happen to know if this procedure of getting n9 real golf 2011 installed on n950 could be applied to get skype ui installed on n950?
StskeepsmacmaN: i'm not involved with the g9 adaptation :)10:12
meceso I'm typing blind and reading from task switcher, where the app works fine...10:13
macmaNStskeeps: oh ok read the article now too :> so this work is not exactly public yet it appears10:13
macmaNmece: reboot not fixez?10:14
StskeepsmacmaN: kernel work is, at least10:14
Stskeepsso it qualifies as a open device10:14
mecei'll try it.10:14
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decibyteartemma: are you still working on the daily wallpaper thing?10:49
artemmadecibyte: yep. Yet another update is in ovi store QA queue for several days already10:49
decibyteartemma: okay. i really look forward to some bugfixes, making at actually work :)10:50
artemmanow schedule almost works :)10:50
artemmaI still mess-up somewhere10:50
decibytewhat about missing images, resulting in black wallpaper?10:51
artemmabut now only reboot probably10:51
artemmadecibyte: that's fixed in the current public version already10:51
decibytehmm... not mine :(10:51
artemmaonly *on * reboot10:51
decibytei even just checked for updates10:51
artemmahmm.. update should have fixed everything..10:52
artemmatry uninstalling manually - maybe just update doesn\t clean everything..10:52
artemmaor 1.0.410:52
decibyteokay. i'll try to force update it somehow...10:52
decibytehm. if i go to ovi store and find it, there's an update button. does anybody know why it doesn't show up if i go to settings > manage applications > updates (and push the check for updates button)?10:54
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decibyteartemma: i got the 1.0.3 now. just enabled and waiting for it to change in an hour :)10:57
artemmawhen you switch autoupdate from off to on, update will happen immediately10:58
artemmain 1.0.4 u'll see message about it in the event feed10:58
decibyteyeah, i noticed10:58
decibytethe event feed notice was there since 1.0?10:58
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artemmadecibyte: in 1.0 notification was telling abt when everything completed11:14
artemmain 1.0.4 - more notes11:14
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djszapiSput, merlin1991 :)11:24
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djszapigri: ohh UiConstants.DefaultMargin is available only from 1.112:08
gridjszapi: That's why I always have these ugly absolute path includes to .js files in my code :(12:09
djszapiso it is probably available for PR 1.2 hopefully12:10
spenapare there figures on the % of devices running 1.0 against those running 1.1?12:10
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stroughtonsmithSo… is there any way to update my N9 to PR1.1 without having to use navifirm? Also: any particular reason the update hasn't rolled out globally yet, or is there something broken on my fw? :(12:33
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djszapistroughtonsmith: you can use the nokia Software Update on windows.13:18
djszapistroughtonsmith: I tried to ask them why the PR 1.1 is not published, but no answers yet :/13:18
stroughtonsmithdjszapi: software update? Uh, that didn't go so well for me13:19
stroughtonsmithdoesn't work on Mac either13:19
djszapiNSU is not available for Mac13:19
stroughtonsmith? it is…13:19
djszapino, it is not: "It’s free to download and use. It runs on Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP."13:21
stroughtonsmithI've been using it, it certainly exists :P It's the only thing I've ever updated my N8/E7 with13:21
stroughtonsmithdoesn't support the N9 or N950 tho :/13:22
rantomIf Nokia's Mac-devs will be smart they'll add the N9(50) support to the final product since the Nokia Link supports N9+950 already13:23
djszapiinteresting, they do not document it at the product support:
stroughtonsmithand the software updater I downloaded for windows from the nokia site goes into an update-on-launch loop13:23
djszapithe mac updater is under "betalabs" and "apps", weird.13:24
stroughtonsmithcan't use it at all, cause it won't run without updating, and the update fails13:24
djszapiis it stable ?13:24
rantomdjszapi: It's a release candidate, why would they?13:24
djszapiin that case, I would really go for the Windows version13:24
stroughtonsmithso I'm kinda stuck on PR1.013:25
djszapiif the mac version is not stable yet.13:25
stroughtonsmithis it guaranteed that all N9s will eventually get it OTA? Or are there known issues with firmware update URLs or whatever13:25
rantomI wouldn't expect it to become stable anytime soon13:25
rantomNokia's been terrible when it comes to providing OS X applications of their software13:26
stroughtonsmiththey've got better lately, with the Qt SDK and updater13:26
rantomIIRC the NSU for Mac was mentioned for the first time in 200813:26
rantomWe got it in 201113:26
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rantomYeah, Nokia Link is a good(ish) example13:26
stroughtonsmithunfortunately we're back to requiring windows again for the wp7 sdk13:26
stroughtonsmitheven tho you can now sync with a mac and wp7 easily13:27
rantomDoesn't seem to support symbols though on song names13:27
djszapiat any rate, I have just added these pagse to the landing page. Others might not need to look for it too much13:27
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djszapirantom: what do you mean by Nokia Link ?13:39
rantomdjszapi: In short: sync music/photos/videos to your Nokia-device (supports N9 and N950) from your computer or vice versa13:42
rantomI'd like to see it support contacts sync though too since there's no iSync in Lion13:43
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djszapiahh I see.13:43
rantom(still running in Snow Leopard, I'll avoid Lion as long as possible)13:43
djszapisorry for the different type of question, but have you ever tried to install kdelibs on your Mac ?13:44
rantomI had MacFuse a few times but got rid of it since I could replace what it brought to me without it (e.g. better FTP-support for Finder -> ExpanDrive)13:45
rantomAnd MacPorts but same story13:45
rantomdjszapi: How come?13:46
djszapirantom: I had more Google Code-In students for helping me with Mac builds of our softwares, but nobody took a full build yet with kdelibs13:47
djszapiI am just curious how hard it can be.13:47
djszapisadly, I can only have permanent access to Windows, Linux and mobile platforms, no real Mac permanently.13:47
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rantomUnfortunately I have no experience in building and coding so I think I'd be less than helpful, for now13:55
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xarcassdjszapi: I have permanent access to mac (unfortunately, I hate the damned thing) and I might have enough experience in building, so I could give it a try. where should I begin?13:58
djszapiexcellent :) Note, building kdelibs might be painful:
djszapibut if you have questions, lfranchi can help on #kde-mac14:00
xarcassdjszapi: painful? I'm not going to build them by hand: I have a computer for such mindless and repetitive tasks14:00
djszapiyes, kdelibs is a monster :P Until kde frameworks.14:01
xarcassdjszapi: well, if that's only a matter of time, I've plenty of this shit14:04
djszapitime, and such a big project might contain uncaught pitfalls.14:04
xarcassdjszapi: as usual. I think there's nothing left that could surprise me. maybe, only building 1G+ sources without a single warning..14:06
djszapi:) I think warningless state is almost impossible even if you do everything nice, mainly with some gcc sompiler.14:07
xarcassdjszapi: in my projects it's an unbreakable law: "Treat warnings as errors" and I apply very cruel kinds of punishment to my colleagues who break it. they keep trying though..14:10
djszapixarcass: I can show you 2 warnings I investigated for days, so did Thiago and others14:10
djszapiwe could not nuke it, but if you can well...I am happy :)14:11
xarcassdjszapi: well, there are bugs in the compiler some times, then it's acceptable to wrap this piece of code in pragmas to prevent warnings, but url to the compiler ticket is required in comments in this case. maybe, it's too strong, but I feel much more comfortable this way14:13
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djszapixarcass: there were no pragmas to hide it14:13
djszapixarcass: just very nasty ones... Like commenting out the whole file14:14
djszapior putting the class method into an entirely separate file14:14
djszapiand I would not mess up the codebase for maintenance hardness because of some gcc bug14:15
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xarcassdjszapi: well, maybe I haven't seen all the bugs, but in my experience warnings almost always mean something, i.e..someone has neglected coding culture14:22
* xarcass isn't kinda Hitler at all, even though many people think so14:23
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djszapixarcass: you are welcome to help:
xarcassdjszapi: I'll be thinking about this, while libs are being built: my brain dumped core trying to parse warning message14:28
djszapixarcass: another one from other project:
djszapiI fixed the warning by pragmas with a long commit message about the bugreport and everything, but I found that, I would not mess up the code14:32
xarcassdjszapi: well, I may only say that gcc people are lucky that I'm not in their team :) I also hate to depend on other's people work.14:37
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djszapiif anybody is interested later, I have just written a FindMeegoTouch.cmake module for finding it and fill in the relevant variables.15:06
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jonnisourcecode.request promised to snail mail me the dvd of pr1.1 sources, nice, should arrive soon....15:33
djszapiyou can get it internally anyway :)15:34
jonnibut I only have freedom to publish compiled kernel after I have got it externally :)15:35
Corsacuh, isn't the n9 screen supposed to be gorilla glass or something?15:36
djszapidid you break it ? :p15:36
Corsacno, but I have a scratch I don't know how I made it15:37
djszapiI think it was aegis :p15:37
dm8tbrwell it's tough glass, but you sure can scratch it if you try hard:)15:37
CorsacI didn't try hard15:38
Corsacit's usually in my pocket, with no keys or stuff like that15:38
Corsacand it's pretty recent, I would have noticed, it's pretty visible :/15:42
M4rtinKBTW, I have found that the Neo FreeRunner carrying pouch fits the N950 perfectly - should also work for the N9 due to similar size :)15:44
Jare_ehh, nokia won't add an ability to call directly to a sip uri, because it's a "non-trivial task" :/15:46
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jreznikM4rtinK: /me wanted to get one but then decided it's better to give it to people who attended Openmobility :)15:46
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M4rtinKwell, now I'm really glad I got one at that occasion :)15:47
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Corsac(btw I assume scratched screens aren't covered by warranty?)15:57
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Jare_i think there's an ongoing battle against nokia about scratched screens16:04
Jare_at least there are quite many people on some forums, who argue that the screen has been scratched too easily16:05
Corsacwhat puzzles me is that I really don't know how it got scratched16:06
Corsacbecause I agree, it usually doesnt scratch easily16:06
Corsacso I guess there were some special circumstances16:07
Corsacbut which?16:07
decibyteoops. wrong channel :)16:08
Corsac(though it's also a handtec device which may be part of the “bad” batch, I have some unexplained reboots a bit too often, though it's not sure if it's really hardware related so I didn't ask for anything yet)16:08
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SpeedEvilIt's glass, any hard thing caught against the screen risks it.16:08
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Corsacyeah, but I usually don't put hard things against the screen16:11
Corsacand I can definitely say there wasn't anything special happening today16:11
djszapiCorsac: hope, you can have some warranty related software issues, like pixel ones. Would Nokia change in that case ?16:12
djszapiwarranty related issues*16:12
CorsacI don't parse your sentence :/16:13
djszapiwell, if you get some pixel issue or other breakage which is covered by the nokia guarantee, your phone would probably be replaced.16:13
Jare_if they only could use sapphire glass on those screens ;)16:16
SpeedEvilSapphire or diamond would be awesome!16:17
Jare_my ten year old wrist watch has even been in the army with me and yet the sapphire glass doesn't have a single scratch on it16:18
deramis there yet knowledge on how hard it is to change N9 screen glass?16:19
deramis it glued on or something?16:19
X-Fadederam: it is one thing.16:19
X-Fadederam: No way you get those apart.16:20
Jare_it's not hard to change, but the glass is glued to the amoled display, so it's quite expensive part16:20
SpeedEvilI wonder if you can put a screen protector on.16:20
X-FadeI don't get why people complain, really. Those resistive screens scratched a lot easier.16:21
SpeedEvilUnfortunately likely to be probelmatic.16:21
SpeedEvilX-Fade: Because a screen protector was easy to add.16:21
deramthere were protectors for those..16:21
djszapiX-Fade: you would also be frustrated if your expensive phone breaks in that mood :p16:21
Jare_to be exact the display assy costs 149eur16:22
X-FadeWell, the polycarbonate is gives whole other problems.16:23
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SpeedEvilJare_: is there a parts store?16:23
SpeedEvilOr is that from an official nokia ....16:23
Jare_SpeedEvil: in finland yes, i don't about other countries16:24
fluxspeedevil, there are screen protecting films for n9 as well16:24
X-FadeWhen your device drops, it bounces. Giving all stress to the glass :)16:24
djszapiso what is the cheapest way of protecting the screen ?16:24
X-Fade770 pouch :)16:25
SpeedEvilA case.16:25
X-FadeThat is what I use :)16:25
SpeedEvilUse it only in a clean-room.16:25
djszapibtw, how about the N950 regarding this ?16:25
Corsacwell, I do have the silicon case, but that wont protect the screen :)16:26
Jare_there's a leather case for n9:
fluxquite stylish, but it doesn't show it opened16:27
xmlich02hi, have anyone experience with adding an xmpp account? Just by installing of the seems to be incomplete16:28
Jare_or you could buy a screen protector. IIRC zagg had one which covered the whole glass16:28
djszapixmlich02: the author said it is still incomplete.16:29
derameasiest way to get scratches is to leave it upside down on table.. there is always some hard dust to scratch it16:30
Jare_flux: that's like a pouch, so it might be a bit inconvenient in some situations16:30
SpeedEvilIndeed deram.16:31
xmlich02i found also this discussion  , but i am not able to install sqlite316:31
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grihow long does this stupid maintainance at take? it's about two days now ...16:32
griwithout any notice why and how long16:32
djszapiwrite them I guess ?16:33
Corsacderam: yeah, that's my best bet on what happened, but I find it really surprising16:33
macmaNre harmattan stuff, does anyone here happen to know if this procedure of getting n9 real golf 2011 installed on n950 could be applied to get skype ui installed on n950?
djszapidoes not seem to be golf specific16:43
gridjszapi: Sure but I'm lazy and atleast a small blog post telling us "we start maintainance at 30th november until xx" would be great instead of just doing it without any notice16:44
djszapibut as he says, issues might come p16:44
djszapigri: I agree and that is why I tried to help you with proceeding...16:44
macmaNdjszapi: hmmm can you suggest which package i could try installing16:45
djszapimacmaN: please ask someone with production device16:46
djszapiI do not have mine here.16:46
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macmaNdjszapi: lol apt-get install accounts-plugin-skype seems to have succeeded :> lets see what happened in ui16:57
macmaNits there!16:58
macmaNwoot woot :>16:58
tommai tried n9 pr 1.0 or earlier version with n950 pr 1.0 and it did show in accounts and had working ui etc but logging didn't work16:59
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macmaNthe existing mc-tool'd account doesnt show up16:59
macmaNim gonna try removing that16:59
tommatell if it works as it should =)17:00
macmaNor just restarting17:00
macmaNrestart didnt have an effect17:04
macmaNgotta go mc-tooling17:04
macmaNtomma: ui launched, all seems fine :>17:06
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TSCHAKeeedid Nokia sneak CarrierIQ stuff into Harmattan?17:10
Stskeepsno, just goatse17:11
* TSCHAKeee found out that an android unit he was using had it on there17:11
TSCHAKeeeam so fucking pissed.17:11
Stskeeps1984, eh17:12
TSCHAKeeethat ALONE is the reason for me to push the N9 like crazy17:12
hiemanshuTSCHAKeee: it was well knows since android came out that Google will become more evil and track more stuff17:18
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deramtechnically it was not google that put the software in the phones... at least that is what I have read in news17:19
TSCHAKeeeit's the carriers17:19
deramthe same arriers, which have been the block to get nokia phones sold in US17:20
hiemanshucarriers can track stuff either ways17:20
deramyes. but not that detailed without those appps17:21
luke-jrdunno, probably the carriers just saw an overview of legit statistics… I'd blame the company that sold it to them17:21
TSCHAKeeewell, no matter what, you're going to get location data from towers17:21
luke-jrI mean, there's obviously a 3rd party doing it, or else it'd be a single carrier17:21
luke-jrwhy hasn't anyone figured out what that party is?17:22
hiemanshuthey have, they just aren't bringing it out in the open, for monies17:22
macmaNwelp, enjoy skype ui on n950:
derammacmaN: is that username-password pair in that url specific to device or common to all?17:26
macmaNas far as i have seen, everybody has the same17:26
macmaNi thought about the same thing17:26
* TSCHAKeee wonders why the hell Video calling regressed from the N90017:28
SpeedEvilVideo calling worked on the n900?17:28
TSCHAKeeei've used it a couple times17:29
SpeedEvilAh - skype17:29
DocScrutinizerand SIP17:29
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djszapimacmaN: so is the skype useful in general (not N950 and current issue question) ? Someone said earlier it had some troubles18:38
Milhousedjszapi: been working fine for me on n95018:38
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Milhousedjszapi (using plugin from n9 repo)18:39
djszapiso you can make longer call, proper streaming, no voice cut and so on ?18:39
macmaNdjszapi: totally useful! quite key additions to ui.18:39
macmaNoh that i dont know, ive been only using text so far.18:39
Milhousedjszapi: yep, had a 30 minute skype call from uk to greece yesterday18:39
djszapihow about the quality ?18:39
Milhousedjszapi: good18:39
macmaNmy pre-n9-plugin call sessions were also problem free18:40
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djszapihow about longer conference calls with more people ?18:40
Milhousedoes it do conf calls?18:41
djszapiI would definitely need it.18:42
djszapiif possible.18:42
djszapiat least conference chat was possible some time ago.18:43
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djszapiis it possible to add an account with the current harmattab jabber account plugin codebase ?19:08
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macmaNi just added the google talk account19:32
macmaNnot seeing general xmpp cabability19:32
faenilis there any news about pr 1.2?19:32
macmaNfollow #n950 on twitter19:34
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daniel_oGood morning..19:44
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Sazpaimon_GApp is great when it actually works20:44
Sazpaimon_makes searching for transit directions easier20:44
Sazpaimon_is it just a qml web interface with a custom useragent?20:45
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djszapigri: meh, FindMeegoTouch.cmake module writing is not enough for an accouns plugin, but also FindAccount*.cmake :P21:11
djszapimmmm, I cannot seem to find the libaccounts-ui1 package in the public repository for downloading.21:13
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griit is there21:18
griI used it21:18
griatleast for testing code :)21:18
djszapigri: can you give me a link ? I do not see it for some reason.21:29
griI just did dpkg-cache search accounts21:31
djszapiyou mean apt-cache :)21:32
grimulled wine increases typos21:32
djszapiI have internal repositories set up, thus if I need something outside, I normally download it from the website. Hence, asking for the link.21:32
gri(20:19:13) gri: boah ey21:33
gri(20:19:24) gri: meine mutter bringt mich noch zum ausrasten21:33
gri(20:19:55) gri: da hab ich sie extra gestern in der arbeit angerufen, um mit ihr auszumachen, dass ich morgen in ihre wohnung geh und die xbox von meinem bruder überprüf, was da so installiert is21:33
gri(20:20:05) gri: extra in der arbeit, damit er nix mitbekommt21:33
gri(20:20:30) gri: und eben ruft sie mich von daheim an, um mir eigentlich nix zu sagen und fängt in jedem zweiten satz an mit "und wenn du dann morgen kommst ..." !!!!!!!!!!!21:33
gri(20:20:35) gri: und ich bekomm fast nen anfall21:33
gri(20:20:47) gri: und mein die ganze zeit, sie soll einfach ruhig sein und kein wort davon erwähnen21:33
djszapiand I do not see it on the public repository.21:33
djszapican you then share the debian package ?21:33
gricrappy clipboard21:33
daniel_ofunny story, though :D21:34
griyeah, really for the public ...21:34
gridjszapi: I have libaccounts-ui-dev, libaccounts-ui0, libaccountsplugin-dev, libaccountsplugin021:35
djszapithe first one I need21:35
djszapiand probably the relevant library...21:35
djszapiI have never understood why there is no url getting option for deb tools, like for arch/pacman21:36
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gridaniel_o: damn, it pasted all lines except of one even though I closed the irc client very fast21:36
gridjszapi: armel I assume?21:37
grior both?21:37
djszapiI would need all of them. For some reasons, I do not have them in apt-cache search...21:37
djszapibut please try to get the url of them somehow, for instance dpkg -I21:38
griwant my sources.list?21:38
daniel_o:D that's why i started using notepad before, to try pasting :D i'm very cautious about it, i copy passwords a lot :D21:38
djszapigri: no, I would not be glad of messing up the public with internal21:38
djszapithat would result an entire reinstalling at some point.21:39
gridjszapi: I meant for researching the download address21:39
grior is there some command that tells me where the package comes from?21:39
djszapisadly, not by default...21:39
gridaniel_o: german? :D Otherwise you'd not understood it :P21:39
daniel_oyep :P21:40
gridjszapi: how to find out then?21:40
djszapigri: no real clue...21:40
djszapiit is pacman -Wp package on arch, or something simple like that21:41
grimy sources.list only has 3 lines21:42
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grideb & deb-src for harmattan/sdk free non-free21:42
griand deb harmattan/<somehash> nokia-binaries21:42
gridaniel_o: Somewhere in bavaria?21:43
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daniel_ogri: nope, Hamburg, but at the moment, Canada :)21:45
griworking in foreign countries seems to be in :P21:46
djszapigri: apt-get install --print-uris21:46
griaha, libaccounts-ui-dev is deprecated and replaced by libnaccounts-ui-dev (nokia accounts) and libaccountplugin-dev21:47
djszapiI thought libnaccounts-ui-dev is closed21:48
griyay, have the url but can't copy it out of vmware since it's stupid21:50
griopening the url in firefox does also not work21:50
grithey removed old packages and my scratchbox vm did not apt-get update for a longer time21:51
djszapisend it in mail to you :p21:51
griapt-get install can't even download the file21:51
griso there must be a newer one21:51
djszapigri: definitely, your packageset is rather different to mine :p21:51
grinow I also have a libaccounts-loginstorage, whatever this is but sounds cool21:52
djszapiwell that is obviously for storage :P21:53
djszapigri: I have this according to the apt-cache search: libaccounts-ui121:54
djszapithough I find it nowhere manually.21:54
griam I allowed to paste this url to a pastebin?21:54
griI don't think so, right?21:54
djszapiwhy not ?21:55
djszapidon't you use public rpeository ?21:55
griwell, it's from nokia-binaries21:55
gribut public21:55
grithough I had to click some "I accept this" when installing the sdk21:55
djszapiahhh that is why I did not find under free21:55
djszapiwell, you would block me at least :P21:56
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djszapibut I do not see why it would be hurty if it is in the public SDK21:56
djszapimainly if binary, and not source.21:56
djszapibut if you are worried, send the package to me, or I will do it tomorrow, and I suspend this task...21:57
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djszapiit is sad I cannot access the Nokia repository outside :/21:59
hiemanshuofc not22:00
djszapiit actually sometimes even blocks the work when I work remotely.22:01
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djszapigri: it needs libsignon-qt-dev :P22:03
djszapiand that is probably also nokia binary22:03
griwhen I want to install it, it tells me it needs about ~30 other libs :P22:03
TSCHAKeeethere's a beta3 now?22:05
djszapifor a quite while, yes ;)22:05
TSCHAKeeewait, what's the version #?22:06
* TSCHAKeee currently seems to be running PR1.1 2.2011.39-5)22:07
djszapigri: you did not actually send the libaccounts-ui122:07
grithis one does not exist here22:08
djszapinot even uo0 ?22:08
griI had the 0 but apt told me now it got replaced by libaccountplugin0 and libnaccounts-ui022:09
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djszapilibaccountplugin-dev is ok22:10
djszapiI need to write: FindAccountsUi.cmake and probably FindSignon.cmake too mmm22:10
gridoes your internal sdk have opengl support in xephyr? :P22:12
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* djszapi does not use SDKs22:12
griwhat then?22:13
griwell that's what I was referring to22:13
griscratchbox is a sdk variant (atleast on the website)22:13
djszapiI have installed scratchbox long ago Nokia has ever published any SDKs for Harmattan22:13
djszapi(same with Android)22:14
djszapiand I still use the same scratchbox; robust enough.22:14
grimy sdks all run seperately in their own vm, so I can copy them from machine to machine :)22:15
djszapibut I use sb only with cli since I always had a gadget around me22:15
griso how do you test then? on the device only?22:17
djszapiI must admit, I am quite happy with scratchbox. Same workflow works for Android as well22:17
djszapiyes, only device22:18
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Jare_if anyone is searching for an alternative to those screen protector films, i can recommend this
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ZogG_laptopdamn you nokia23:02
ZogG_laptopqt creator needs libpng12 exactly23:03
ZogG_laptoplike 1.5 is not good enuf23:04
luke-jrZogG_laptop: nonsense23:05
luke-jrI have 1.5.5 and it works fine23:05
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: i installed 1.2 too and it works now too23:07
ZogG_laptopbut before23:07
ZogG_laptop $ ./bin/qtcreator23:07
ZogG_laptop./bin/qtcreator: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory23:07
luke-jrsounds like you need to recompile.23:08
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luke-jror better yet, use the Qt Creator packaged for your OS23:08
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: for my Os is not good idea23:14
ZogG_laptopi used installer from nokia site23:14
luke-jrZogG_laptop: that's the problem.23:14
luke-jrwhen you run a sane OS (Linux-based), you need to use packages made for it.23:15
macmaNwell whoever was asking about nokia developer being down23:16
macmaNjust got a security message about password being reset23:16
macmaNso they obviously had a security breach of some sort23:17
djszapigri: the account libraries are full of inconsistent regarding the terms. It is once accounts, once account, then against accounts, and then again account23:17
ZogG_laptoppwned =)23:17
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: i use funtoo23:17
luke-jrZogG_laptop: then you shoudl be compiling it from the ebuild.23:17
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ZogG_laptopluke-jr: last time i tried it didn't work properly23:18
luke-jrbut I'm on Gentoo23:19
javispedroseems that passwords got compromised?23:19
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: and you did compiled it?23:19
ZogG_laptopcompile it?23:19
javispedroanyone got an email about it?23:19
Stskeepsjavispedro: again?23:19
macmaNjavispedro: i just wrote about it two minutes ago23:19
javispedrosorry then, stupid chanlogs 5-minute sampling period =)23:20
luke-jrZogG_laptop: yes23:20
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: simultor and everything works properly?23:21
luke-jrZogG_laptop: tbh, I don't use it, so no idea :D23:21
luke-jrI was looking for a debugger23:21
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: do you mind to share you use flags?23:21
javispedrothe problem is all the propietary stuff such as madde, etc.23:21
vadimqJare_: does that case actually stay in place if the phone falls? I got the N900 official case and the couple times I dropped it, it managed to fly off. Also it's falling to pieces.23:21
luke-jrZogG_laptop: I don't want to flood IRC? :P23:22
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: why do you have japanese support and your system is mess man =)23:23
luke-jrZogG_laptop: why not?23:24
luke-jrnot a mess, just configured :P23:24
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: why do you have all flags in make.conf?23:24
luke-jrZogG_laptop: that's where they belong23:25
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: /etc/portage/packages.use23:25
luke-jrthat's for per-package overrides.23:25
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: i know that's why i have only few in make.conf23:28
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: QEMU_* is for emulator i assume23:29
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ZogG_laptopluke-jr: would you mind to share flags only for creator? (eix qt-creator |wgetpaste)23:34
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ZogG_laptopluke-jr: do you mind me asking what DE/WM u use?23:43
Jare_vadimq: i'm not going to do any experimental testing, but it feels quite secure, so i suppose it would stay in place in small falls. I just bought this, but the price wasn't that high, so i'm perfectly okay if have to buy a new one after two or three years23:45
DocScrutinizer(Nokia security breach) wonder why I'm not surprised at all23:45
SpeedEvilvadimq: Falling off can be good.23:46
StskeepsDocScrutinizer: they didn't run AEGIS on their servers23:46
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SpeedEvilvadimq: It can absorb energy from the collision that would otherwise go into bending your n90023:46
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DocScrutinizerStskeeps: I'm not sure Aegis would've stopped any of that23:47
Jare_what breach and where?23:47
DocScrutinizerafter all Aegis also is just a tool, like ACL and file permissions and firewalls are23:48
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DocScrutinizerplus it's a really complex hard to handle tool, that obviously not even the developers of it can set up in a completely correct and safe and useful way, at least not "initially" (for whatever meaning of that term, given it's in use for way longer than 6 months now)23:50
luke-jrZogG_laptop: KDE of course23:52
DocScrutinizeror maybe they weren't involved at all in training and documentation and integration of aegis, and so it's somebody else's fault when aegis permission and aegis documentation are extremely poor and sub-par23:52
djszapiKDE ftw :P23:53
griIs like sony? Got hacked but as long no one knows, no one can complain? :D That long downtime without announcment makes me believe this :P23:53
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: why of course (though i saw plasma there23:53
gri"Your Nokia Developer account password has been reset as a precautionary security measure." makes me even more believe this :D23:54
ZogG_laptopluke-jr: i do use xfce4 as main on PC and learning awesome on laptop23:56
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