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| unreal- | i can't get over it how totally amazing the jack audio output of the n9 is... | 01:09 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | so i untarred the beta3 rootstrap over beta2 | 05:06 |
| Sazpaimon_ | but im still seeing PR1.0 packages | 05:06 |
| Sazpaimon_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/libm/libmeegotouch/ this has an older version of libmeegotouch for esxample | 05:15 |
| Sazpaimon_ | *example | 05:15 |
| Sazpaimon_ | the one on my PR1.1 is 0.23.21-1+0m6 | 05:15 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:09 |
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| Anssi138 | morning, what is a easy way to debug private mappings on harmattan? | 07:17 |
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| RST38h | Moorning, gentlemen | 10:47 |
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| lardman|home | I've just noticed that the beta repo has vanished, presumably I ought to update to beta3 | 10:53 |
| lardman|home | is it a case of re-installing from scratch, or is there an upgrade path? A quick Google didn't find anything very useful | 10:54 |
| RST38h | I screwed with it for a little, then reinstalled | 10:55 |
| lardman|home | hmm, I hope this doesn't happen too often | 10:56 |
| RST38h | lardman: I am sure it will not, given all the support to Maemo6 fromthe upper management... =) | 10:58 |
| lardman|home | yeah I was thinking just that as I typed :( | 10:58 |
| lardman|home | RST38h: any roughg idea howlarge the downloads are? I might wait till I get to my very quick (and truely unlimited) work download link | 11:01 |
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| lardman|home | hmm, one handed typing not the best I see | 11:02 |
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| RST38h | lardman: I do not remember for sure, but something like 250-350MB of archives | 11:02 |
| RST38h | May be off though, by a lot | 11:03 |
| lardman|home | cool, thanks | 11:03 |
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| flux | how can I see, which credentials an installed package has requested or got? | 11:12 |
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| jonni | flux: by reading /var/lib/aegis/restok/restok.conf for example | 11:15 |
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| flux | jonni, thanks, exactly what I was looking for | 11:16 |
| flux | I guess I should've just looked/grepped all the files under /var/lib/aegis | 11:17 |
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| jonni | and if you have hacked your shell to have tcb capas, then you can just use: accli -I -b /path/to/binary | 11:19 |
| jonni | without tcb that doesnt report right capas | 11:19 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | why does my beta3 rootstrap still contain PR1.0 packages? | 11:38 |
| Sazpaimon_ | my libqt4 is still an older version thats in PR1.1, and the beta3 repository also has the old versions | 11:39 |
| Sazpaimon_ | what gives | 11:39 |
| flux | interesting: Package: countdown Request: Cellular | 11:39 |
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| flux | gpsspeed: TrackerReadAccess TrackerWriteAccess, phonetorch: Location, TrackerReadAccess, TrackerWriteAccess | 11:41 |
| flux | I guess those come 'too easily' with QtCreator? | 11:41 |
| flux | so, hopefully it's benign :) | 11:41 |
| Sazpaimon_ | anyone? I'm trying to buld the latest meego-terminal (with copy/paste support) and its not going to build with this version of qt that the SDK provides | 11:42 |
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| flux | hmph, how would one even install a non-nokia meego-terminal, given developer-mode depends on it? | 11:52 |
| jonni | flux: rename package to meego-terminal2 ;) | 11:53 |
| flux | jonni, and the binary and some paths as well. argh.. | 11:53 |
| deram | flux: did you find the the packaging configs somewhere, or just imported the project to sdk? | 11:54 |
| jonni | or just use hacked shell to install your own pgp keys as com.nokia.maemo, and just install over the original terminal :) | 11:55 |
| jonni | (like I did) | 11:55 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | ugh, i can not for the life of me find the PR1.1 packages for the SDK | 12:56 |
| Sazpaimon_ | can anyone please help me | 12:56 |
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| jonni | Sazpaimon_: most likely as everything needs to be binary compatible with PR1.0 anyways so sdk hasnt been updated, just a guess, I have no real info. | 14:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/n9_goes_spooky.mp4 weird touchscreen misbehaviour | 16:21 |
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| qronic | How to get rid of "My status" in the status bar panel? | 16:40 |
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| macmaN | MohammadAG: took a deep breath and cloned gidzzz-qt-mediaplayer :> | 17:06 |
| macmaN | MohammadAG: thought id at least get started by making sure i am able to build it for fremantle and perhaps kick my development off on fremantle | 17:06 |
| macmaN | and for some reason i dont have fremantle in my qtcreator + sign | 17:08 |
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| macmaN | ok word mucking around with sdkmaintenancetool brought maemo5 back | 17:30 |
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| macmaN | #include <gq/GConfItem> | 17:35 |
| macmaN | /* /usr/include/gq is provided by libgq-gconf-dev and libgq-gconf0 These packages need to be installed on top of your sysrootfs. | 17:35 |
| macmaN | hmmmm | 17:35 |
| macmaN | how do i do that in qtcreator | 17:35 |
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| Kypeli | They are included in the Harmattan MeeGo platform API | 17:43 |
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| Kypeli | And they are available on the device | 17:43 |
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| MohammadAG | Second clearance delay | 18:03 |
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| MohammadAG | V | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | Sorry about that | 18:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Doom 3 is GPL? | 18:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Awesome. | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | O_o | 18:05 |
| Tronic | GeneralAntilles: It was a crappy engine in 2004 when iD originally released it. I wouldn't get too excited. | 18:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Meh, it's better than Quake III | 18:06 |
| Tronic | Seriously... | 18:06 |
| Tronic | The FOSS community needs to start creating its own crap instead of living on the leftovers of ancient commercial games. | 18:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | Building an engine is a helluva lot of work. | 18:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | If iD is willing to provide stepladders, then why waste the extra effort? | 18:07 |
| Tronic | Yet, a few projects are doing that, and apparently successfully enough to attract even commercial (indie) developers. | 18:07 |
| Tronic | My worry with iD's code is that it is so bad and outdated that any further development put into it is total waste. | 18:08 |
| Tronic | Since 2004 there have been half a dozen OpenGL releases and pretty much the entire API as well as shader language has changed. | 18:09 |
| Tronic | If you target modern hardware, code older than circa 2008 is completely useless. | 18:09 |
| Tronic | If you are developing an engine, you should not target modern hardware but rather /future/ hardware. | 18:10 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | how do I get PR1.1 packages on my harmattan SDK | 18:12 |
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| gri | is it possible to tell the theme daemon to update right now? my application can only find it's icons after a reboot .... | 18:26 |
| faenil | o/ gri :) hi people | 18:28 |
| gri | morning faenil | 18:28 |
| gri | Sazpaimon_: which packages? | 18:30 |
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| gabriel9 | can someone tell me where n9 store backup files | 18:39 |
| gabriel9 | i wish to make backup of backup :) | 18:39 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | gri, specifically libqt packages | 18:42 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | I'm trying to build the latest meego-terminal with copy/paste support, but it requires a more recent libqt | 18:43 |
| Sazpaimon_ | and the SDK only provides PR1.0 Qt | 18:43 |
| Sazpaimon_ | even using the beta3 repository | 18:43 |
| gri | hmm | 18:46 |
| gri | you could just change the dependency and try compiling since on the device the version fits :) | 18:46 |
| Sazpaimon_ | gri, no, I mean it uses functtions from the PR1.1 libqt | 18:47 |
| Sazpaimon_ | it wont compile on the qt that PR1.0 has | 18:47 |
| Sazpaimon_ | i should say, it requires a later version of libmeegotouch that's on PR1.1 | 18:47 |
| Sazpaimon_ | which requires a later version of qt | 18:47 |
| Sazpaimon_ | it specifically requests the PR1.1 version of qt, so I assume it's for good reason | 18:48 |
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| mgedmin | gabriel9, /home/user/MyDocs/.backups | 19:02 |
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| gabriel9 | thanks, i miss that one | 19:04 |
| gabriel9 | and now to flash it to match my country | 19:05 |
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| faenil | gri: just finished antenna signal strenght miniapp :) | 19:15 |
| gri | did it work with dbus? | 19:16 |
| faenil | used the link you sent me :) | 19:16 |
| faenil | haven't tried with dbus | 19:16 |
| gri | ok :) | 19:16 |
| faenil | do you think it's worth publishing to ovistore? could be useful to some people | 19:16 |
| gri | what does it display? | 19:17 |
| faenil | signal strenght percentage | 19:17 |
| faenil | well, need to make it cute to publish it ofc... | 19:17 |
| faenil | but it's something better than the 5 bars | 19:17 |
| gri | hmm, I think this alone is a bit pointless? | 19:18 |
| gri | if you add more graphs you can make a cellular utility (and/or with wifi) | 19:18 |
| faenil | yeah, could be | 19:18 |
| faenil | well, it's useful to me, that's why I asked the question in first place :D | 19:19 |
| faenil | it could be useful to those people who want something more accurate than bars :D | 19:19 |
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| petteri | new meego terminal just showed up in my N9. The copy paster works nicely | 20:00 |
| Tronic | woot | 20:04 |
| Tronic | url clicking too? | 20:04 |
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| petteri | no url clicking | 20:07 |
| mgedmin | so that's what changed | 20:07 |
| mgedmin | WOOOOT | 20:08 |
| mgedmin | the copy/paste mode enables vim xterm mouse support! | 20:09 |
| mgedmin | still no idea why I can't launch fbreader from the app launcher | 20:10 |
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| * mgedmin tries in command line | 20:11 | |
| mgedmin | aha! $ /usr/bin/single-instance /usr/bin/FBReader -> ERROR!!: Lock reserved but no window id for binary name found. | 20:11 |
| * mgedmin uses strace -e open to find the lock | 20:12 | |
| mgedmin | /var/run/single-instance-locks//usr/bin/FBReader/instance.lock | 20:12 |
| mgedmin | I ♥ unix | 20:12 |
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| RzR | great news | 20:18 |
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| RST38h | mgedmin <-- is going to love WP7 | 20:30 |
| * mgedmin barfs | 20:31 | |
| RST38h | No nasty locks to care about. No FBReader in fact. | 20:31 |
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| RzR | putain de spammers telephoniques | 20:36 |
| RzR | impossible d avoir leur numero de sirte | 20:36 |
| RzR | siret | 20:36 |
| RzR | oopz | 20:36 |
| RzR | wrong window | 20:36 |
| faenil | lol | 20:36 |
| RzR | anyway i hate them | 20:36 |
| RzR | i suppose everyone understood | 20:37 |
| mgedmin | have you read Good Omens? | 20:37 |
| mgedmin | there's an _excellent_ scene with phone spammers in there | 20:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Also 'paintball'. | 20:37 |
| RzR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Omens | 20:38 |
| mgedmin | yep | 20:38 |
| mgedmin | good book | 20:38 |
| RzR | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/11/23/1658246/nokia-siemens-axing-17000-positions | 20:42 |
| RzR | This is all the fault of the M$ plant Elop. Dirty fucker won't be happy until the company is ruined then "conveniently" bought by M$ upon which he will receive a huge golden parachute and a cushy position back at M$. Don't believe that Qt won't be axed soon as well. | 20:42 |
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| Milhouse | Anyone with an N9/N950... in the calendar app in landscape, do you have the letters "abc" to the left of the clock in the status bar? | 20:46 |
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| mgedmin | Milhouse, what? no | 20:47 |
| Milhouse | hmm... wierd, I do | 20:47 |
| Milhouse | but only in landscape | 20:47 |
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| mgedmin | left of the clock -- that's where the statuc icons are, right? | 20:48 |
| Milhouse | oh, and it's not just calendar - just saw it with email too | 20:48 |
| Milhouse | yes, i've got a green availability icon, abc, then the time | 20:48 |
| Milhouse | i'll open a bug.. with snapshot... how do i take a screenshot again on the n950? :) | 20:48 |
| mgedmin | install an app | 20:49 |
| mgedmin | e.g. ScreenshotMee | 20:49 |
| Milhouse | wasn't it built-in? | 20:49 |
| mgedmin | afaik, no | 20:49 |
| Milhouse | no ctrl-p? | 20:49 |
| Milhouse | bah, k thanks | 20:49 |
| mgedmin | n9 has no ctrl ;) | 20:50 |
| mgedmin | (except in xterm) | 20:50 |
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| Milhouse | https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223 if anyone is interested. Can't put too much detail into the bug as I have no idea how it happened... | 21:12 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: Evolution Of Debian Package Dependencies Resemble Predator-Prey Relationships | 22:21 |
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| RzR | Milhouse: this is a top priority bug | 22:23 |
| RzR | Milhouse: lets hope this one will be the only one left soon | 22:23 |
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| Milhouse | RzR: Damn straight. ;-) | 22:44 |
| frals | uh, the statusbar should hide in the email app in landscape at least | 22:46 |
| Milhouse | frals: it does, but before you see the app expand into the status bar area, you can see the "abc" present in the status bar | 22:47 |
| frals | alright | 22:47 |
| Milhouse | it's a minor bug, the only reason i raised it is because it's so wierd (what with the status bar being somewhat locked down in terms of what can go in there) | 22:48 |
| augustl | anyone else having battery issues on the N9 after the update? | 22:49 |
| augustl | lasts only about a day now, compared to 3-4 days before | 22:50 |
| frals | hmm, i remember that ABC icon from somewhere but i cant for the life of me remember where | 22:50 |
| Milhouse | augustl: read someone suggesting skype could be a culprit, you have skype enabled? | 22:50 |
| Milhouse | frals: it looks like debug info, to be honest... the sort of thing someone might put in when testing. | 22:51 |
| Milhouse | frals: haven't installed any news apps recently (other than to take a snapshot) | 22:51 |
| frals | hm wait, is this on the n950? | 22:51 |
| frals | is your keyboard open? | 22:51 |
| Milhouse | frals: yes, n950/pr1.1 (39-5) | 22:51 |
| Milhouse | frals: no, closed | 22:52 |
| frals | doh | 22:52 |
| frals | :P | 22:52 |
| frals | guess i should charge mine | 22:52 |
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| Milhouse | ah yes, i see where you'ge going. i'm using swype as my vkb. | 22:53 |
| Milhouse | s/you'ge/you're/ | 22:53 |
| infobot | Milhouse meant: ah yes, i see where you're going. i'm using swype as my vkb. | 22:53 |
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| augustl | Milhouse: hmm no, it's not enabled | 22:56 |
| augustl | Milhouse: that is, I don't have an account set up | 22:56 |
| Milhouse | haven't noticed any significant change in battery life since pr1.1 on my n950, but then i never used to get 3-4 days anyway - 2 days (40 hours) tops. | 22:57 |
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| mgedmin | augustl, run top, see if anything sticks out | 23:42 |
| mgedmin | I've had fun with messageserver eating 100% CPU, that shortens battery life rather quickly | 23:43 |
| SpeedEvil | "" compositor | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | basically, if it feels warm to touch when you're not playing 3D games, something's wrong | 23:44 |
| mgedmin | (and battery eating) | 23:44 |
| SpeedEvil | Well... | 23:44 |
| SpeedEvil | GOF2 uses around 1W | 23:44 |
| SpeedEvil | doing 3G stuff can hit 2 | 23:44 |
| * SpeedEvil has discovered overleveling in GOF2 is painful. | 23:45 | |
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