IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2011-11-22

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deramAns5i: do you know, would it be totally impossible to modify current theme to have correct date shown as calendar icon?00:17
deramsimplest way could be to change the icon daily, but would the main menu reload icon any way, and would that cause MALF...00:19
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lardman|homenight all00:25
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apeletehello #harmattan00:26
deramarcean: nice, though, it depends on root passwd... if only the calendar desktopfile could be changed user writable...00:28
apeletedoes anyone known if/how it is possible to have MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan Plateform SDK documentation offline ?00:28
apeleteI'm talking about this:
apeleteI'm thinking of wget-ing the whole website to have it offline (I'm going on a trip, and would like to have it with me so I can read it during the travel)00:30
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apeleteis there a better way I don't know about to have that doc offline ?00:31
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DocScrutinizerIt *should* be available as a huge archive/pdf/whatever somewhere01:26
DocScrutinizerwget sounds just fine to me01:27
DocScrutinizerif the friggin js works01:27
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djszapiSput ping04:18
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* DocScrutinizer moans a bit too08:19
* dm8tbr never thought he'd need to loan an android device to work on stuff for harmattan...08:25
dm8tbrspecifically an android phone, as I own android tablets.08:25
psycho_oreosloan from nokia?08:26
dm8tbrnah, we have some android phones internally at my company08:27
dm8tbrI need to figure out the liveview protcol a bit better08:27
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meceare sdl libs for harmattan in official repos?10:05
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matrixxdm8tbr: apparently now the other theme is also in staging, it just took two days to get there :]10:33
matrixx*uhm, not in staging but visible in the UI10:34
* dm8tbr really needs to look into how to do community qa10:34
dm8tbrwe need to be superawesome at this10:35
matrixxhey, also themechanger download works now!10:36
matrixxnow everything works as they should, someone has been busy :)10:36
matrixxdm8tbr: it's really simple, you just install the package you wanna test with your device, then answer a few simple questions about the app10:37
matrixxall automized10:37
matrixxI'm also going to try out a few apps tonight, there's already some waiting in the QA :)10:38
dm8tbrcool beans10:41
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meceX-Fade, hey, to enable testing repo in the afm client, can I simply add the correct line to /etc/apts/souces.list.d/appsformeego.list ? and what would that line be?11:31
meceX-Fade, nevermind found the testing enabler app :)11:34
meceI absolutely love the whole afm thing. Love it! I've got to get working on qlister2 and tweed suit to get those apps in there.11:39
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RzR-volatileare you using cmake along harmattan ?11:57
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mecehello, I seem to be having an import problem with this app.13:24
meceinvoker died on launch, and I googled and found this:
mecebut qtcreator says Q_DECL_EXPORT bit doesn't exist. I only include <QtGui/QApplication> and <QtDeclarative>. What else do I need to get that working?13:25
meceeh nevermind it worked anyway.13:28
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fluxeven n9 requires you to sign up to nokia. it doesn't keep track after that, though (?)14:07
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Ans5iflux: sign up is optional14:09
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fluxans5i, ok. how about if you want to use maps? but I guess that's different, you're already using a service and there might be other maps one could use..14:09
Ans5iflux: dunno, iirc some maps might be preinstalled14:11
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RzR-volatileflux: i think i was able to use maps without signin14:15
RzR-volatileon n950 1st fz14:16
fluxdeveloper devices might be different.. did the ovi side even work at that point?-)14:16
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Jare_is the name of the current network connection inside some variable or where could i find it?14:55
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Jare_i mean the internet ap name, which i could use in my script14:56
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pawkyIs there anyone here who works for Nokia and who might be able to see what happens to my N9 thats sent in for replacement?14:57
pawky(I know this is a long shot...)14:59
macmaNsup Jare_15:01
macmaNJare_: i saw your success message last night15:02
macmaNJare_: what was the up/down script solution and what are you working on now?15:04
Jare_actually it's nearly finished, but i thought that adding an option to choose the homenetwork would be nice15:07
Tronicpawky: I know someone but won't be able to see what happens to your device.15:07
Tronicpawky: If you can tell about the fault, I can probably find out how whether the replace it with a new device or not.15:08
Jare_currently it calculates subnets and determines if the local subnet and remote vpn subnet have a conflict with each other15:08
Jare_and based on that information it doesn't start openvpn15:08
Tronicflux: Ovi login worked in w22 (original) firmware already.15:09
Arkenoithere is "nokia account" but no ovi share option anywhere15:13
pawkyTronic: This channel recommended me to send it in for replacement, which I did. The unit simply rebooted itself after 10-20 keypresses. Looking into the log files, i suspect it might have been some issue with either memory or the i2c chip. The unit is now in Hungary, and I am just wondering how long it will take for them to realise to simply send a new one.15:16
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pawkyTronic: I tried to call Nokia, and the service place i left it to, but neither can give me an answer what actually happens in Hungary and I miss my cool phone :'(15:17
Sazpaimon_how do I update my scratchbox SDK to PR1.1?15:17
Sazpaimon_do I just do a dist-upgrade?15:17
Tronicpawky: Can't help much with that but Nokia is known to be notoriously slow with that (3 weeks or more).15:18
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macmaNJare_: are you able to shoot UI notifications from bash scripts?15:18
TronicI would appreciate it if they simply gave replacements from the repair shops without having to wait.15:19
pawkyTronic: a bit to long I think for a unit thats faulty from start... :-(15:19
Jare_macmaN: don't know, haven't gone that far yet15:19
pawkyTronic: yes, when it comes to replace it, things could be a bit faster...15:19
pawkyTronic: It's a bit to long chain in my oppinion   Owner ->Shop -> service station -> Nokia Service station -> service station -> shop -> unhapy owner15:21
TronicPlenty of retailers have DOA instant replacement policy and a few also offer instant replacement during the warranty period (for PC hardware at least). I prefer to buy my gadgets from such retailers even if it costs more.15:25
SpeedEvilpawky: If you're in europe - distance selling act.15:27
SpeedEvil(well, and if you bought at a distance)15:27
Hq`I've been able to get a Nokia device replaced in a few hours (during which they inspected it) when I took it directly to a nearby service center15:27
Hq`that was a few years ago, though15:28
SpeedEvilSimply return it, not get a replacement, and buy new.15:28
pawkySpeedEvil:good thought, but nope..15:28
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SpeedEvilAnd too late, anyway.15:28
pawkySpeedEvil:  :-)15:28
pawkyI believe I just have to tinker along with my N900 meanwhile...15:29
snowpongwhen running valgrind from Qt Creator (remote) anyone else seen "unable to connect to X" ?15:31
faenilany way to read antenna signal from terminal or stuff like that?15:31
SpeedEvilfaenil: What do you mean by antenna signal?15:32
snowpongthis  is when running it on the N9 btw .. work fine when running from command line15:32
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faenilSpeedEvil: my aim is to see if I get more signal by removing the backplate of the n95015:37
faeniland comparing it to n915:38
faenilbut without using the UI, which is not accurate15:38
dm8tbrfaenil: both ends of the back-plate look like standard plastic, so there is most likely no gain15:39
dm8tbrfaenil: what you'd need would be field-test software ;)15:40
faenildm8tbr: still, n950 is unusable here, while N9, N8 are perfectly working15:40
faenildm8tbr: isn't there anything like that for n9/n950? how does it get the signal strenght it shows in the UI?15:41
dm8tbroh, I'm sure there is, but I'm also sure it won't work without RDC ;)15:41
dm8tbror at least some magic incantations, but for that you'd need to get your hands on such and that's most likely never going to happen15:42
faenilwhat's RDC15:42
faeniloh ok, different word for it here15:43
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faenilwhat's the problem in getting the value the UI uses?15:43
dm8tbrthat should be possible to get15:44
faeniland that should be enough, shouldn't it :) that's what I want to do...15:44
faeniland I'm looking for more info on how to get that value :D15:45
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Sazpaimon_okay do dist-upgrade didnt help, all my packages are PR1.0 in scratchbox15:46
Sazpaimon_can anyone tell me how to upgrade my SDK to PR1.1?15:47
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meceSazpaimon_, perhaps you need to reinstall the rootstrap?15:53
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Sazpaimon_there's no way to do a standard upgrade?15:53
meceSazpaimon_, I'm installing from scratch as we speak but am stuck at  "sb-conf: No such compiler: cs2009q3-eglibc2.10-armv7"15:54
meceSazpaimon_, so I have no idea. It was just a guess, since there is a separate rootstrap for beta3 (which I guess is pr1.1)15:55
dm8tbris b3 out yet?15:55
dm8tbrerr disregard15:55
* dm8tbr read pr1.2 ;)15:55
Sazpaimon_guess Ill just untar it over my beta2 rootstrap15:56
meceSazpaimon_, try it :)15:56
meceanyone have an idea why scatchbox is giving me "sb-conf: No such compiler: cs2009q3-eglibc2.10-armv7"? The package scratchbox-toolchain-cs2009q3-eglibc2.10-armv7 installed fine..15:58
Sazpaimon_does the compiler exist in /scratchbox/compilers?15:58
Sazpaimon_if not, try to reinstall it15:59
mecehmm i think the name might have changed.15:59
mecethere's it's called cs2009q3-eglibc2.10-armv7-hard, not cs2009q3-eglibc2.10-armv715:59
meceSazpaimon_, thanks :)15:59
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mecegaah that stupid fokking tablets-dev restricted downloads site neither works with lynx nor elinks....16:06
meceany suggestions on how to download from command prompt16:06
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lardman|labapt-get install wget first of all mind you16:22
lardman|labAnyone know of a working image -> text recognition program/library for either Fremantle or Harmattan?16:23
mecelardman|lab, but it requires a cookie set when you accept the agreement.16:25
lardman|labdunno, sorry mece16:28
mecelardman|lab, I guess I'll just have to do it from home16:29
dm8tbrmece: curl can do cookies IIRC, but I thought links can do too16:31
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Sazpaimon_mece, elinks16:38
rm_workdm8tbr: hey, so could you comment on the battery life again?16:40
rm_workEVERY review I've found indicates they have HORRIBLE battery life16:40
dm8tbrrm_work: ask me again once I use it actively16:41
rm_workah k16:41
dm8tbrI expect to get a day of battery life out of it16:41
qronicAre these bugs could be used on N9?
rm_workI recommend you use it actively before the sale ends on the end of the month :P16:42
qronic I mean to disable aegi16:42
meceSazpaimon_, i tried elinks. Didn't work :/16:42
MohammadAGThird N950 shipped16:43
meceMohammadAG,  somebody's collecting them somewhere...16:43
macmaNMohammadAG: :) what? you mean you gave up on the replacement?16:43
macmaNMohammadAG: have you considered emigrating yet?16:43
MohammadAGmacmaN: Nokia's claiming it back and sending me another one16:44
MohammadAGmece: lol16:44
macmaNfor example finland is only 80km from estonia, you would have to option to go bearwrestle nokia people if they dont behave16:44
MohammadAGI pay frals to do that :p16:44
macmaNits nice to be rich16:45
Sazpaimon_mece, if it keeps reloading the EULA when you accept16:46
Sazpaimon_just CTRL+R the page when you do16:46
MohammadAGmacmaN: $0.1 a month16:46
Sazpaimon_elinks caches the EULA page and you're actually POSTing to the same URL you're at16:46
meceSazpaimon_, ok, thanks16:52
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dm8tbrrm_work: I'm actually going to borrow a android phone to look a bit closer at intended behaviour etc. so yes. I'll hopefully have some numbers at the end of the week17:05
luke-jrIs the N9 actually end-user friendly?17:10
HtheBvery friendly17:11
HtheBalthough that is the reason why a lot of features are missing17:11
HtheBlike selecting text in browser (to copy and paste)17:11
HtheBto have a mouse cursor (like we had on the N900)17:12
meceare there the sources somewhere on ?17:13
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unreal-what do you guys make of this: ?17:19
Jare_ummh, i should call nokia then :I17:22
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HtheBthere was an issue with the screens17:22
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HtheBthat one17:23
luke-jrHtheB: but things actually *work* sanely? :P17:23
HtheBsanely as in?17:23
luke-jrnot like the N900, where everything was half-baked and broken17:23
Jare_no problems in my 64GB N9 though, but i bought it from a private person so i don't think Nokia will contact me personally in case of a recall :P17:23
HtheBluke-jr: no, it's great at the moment for the endusers17:24
HtheBJare_: I think when you first start up the phone, your phone will sent a sms to Nokia17:24
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HtheBso they HAVE your number :p17:25
luke-jrcan't be bypassed on N9?17:25
HtheBdont think so17:25
Jare_i wouldn't be surprised about that and anyway they know my Nokia Account too...17:26
HtheBdidnt try it out though17:26
HtheBJare_: lol17:26
HtheBI have 1 problem with Harmattan .....17:26
Jare_i'm still searching for a simple command line tool to send api messages to the gui. Isn't there any?17:27
HtheBthis problem17:27
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jonniJare_: define api messages?17:31
Jare_just a simple status message for the user, which would show up for example in the status bar17:32
MohammadAGThat may be easy to do17:33
MohammadAGDo you want it to be persistent?17:33
MohammadAGLike show up in the events view17:33
MohammadAGOr just show up for some time and disappear automatically17:33
HtheBMohammadAG: keyfe hal?17:34
Jare_MohammadAG: just show up and disappear, it's a status message about openvpn service17:35
MohammadAGHeh, good :p17:35
jonniJare_: dbus-send can be used for all dbus based api's17:35
MohammadAGJare_: You familiar with C++17:35
MohammadAGMBanner isn't dubs17:35
MohammadAGDbus based17:35
MohammadAGMNotification is17:36
MohammadAGBut that's persistent17:36
MohammadAGAnyway you can make your own command line tool17:36
Jare_kinda, i've coded c mainly, but anyway i'm a bit surprised if theres no such thing done yet17:37
MohammadAGYou need a simple Qt binary to do this17:38
HtheBMohammadAG: is it possible to change the behaviour of the volume buttons?17:38
HtheBregarding this:
MohammadAGThe 4 lines of code you'll need Jare_17:40
matrixxJare_: MohammadAG: there's this:
matrixxthough not sure if it creates only persistent ones17:40
MohammadAGHtheB: No idea, dont have a device and didnt check when I had it17:40
MohammadAGLemme check17:40
MohammadAGApparently no it can't17:42
MohammadAGIt doesn't even include mbanner17:43
MohammadAGHtheB: Just a hint, afaik it's the status menu capturing the keys17:43
MohammadAGAnd afaik that's open source, so you can check if it's possible to hook onto them17:43
HtheBdonno where to look at (that is the prob)17:44
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HtheBsometimes things are easy to change (like changing the sensitivity settings)17:45
HtheBbut only when you know where the thing is located at17:45
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MohammadAGHmm, the volume applets are closed17:46
HtheBSo we can't do anything about this problem at all? :(17:51
MohammadAGI can't know till I have a device17:54
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HtheBMohammadAG: How come you dont have one? :O17:57
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MohammadAGI sent mine back to be replaced17:57
HtheBthat explains17:57
MohammadAGReplacement is17:57
infobotsomebody said israel-sucks was
HtheBwhat the hell is a clearence delay !?17:58
HtheBClearance delay*17:58
MohammadAGAnd sec17:59
HtheBwhy so long!?17:59
HtheBit's over a month now!17:59
MohammadAGGot this email from them
MohammadAGThat's like a week ago18:01
MohammadAGI replied and told them to send the device back18:01
MohammadAGSo I told Nokia to claim it back18:01
HtheBno reply back whatsoever?18:01
MohammadAGSo they shipped me another device while they get this one back18:02
MohammadAGShipment picked up just now18:02
HtheBwish I had a n95018:02
hiemanshuMohammadAG: you got one finally?18:03
hiemanshuah picked up from nokia now18:04
MohammadAGhiemanshu: Take 2
HtheBheh :D18:08
HtheBit's been picked up just a few minutes ago18:08
dm8tbrHq`: small bug if yyou change fontsze that gets saved over app restat and breaks e.g. irssi rendering18:09
MohammadAGHtheB: They just sent it18:10
HtheBI'm happy for you!18:10
HtheBWhy don't they hire you?18:10
MohammadAGWhy would they18:11
MohammadAGI caused headaches for them :p18:11
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HtheBYou're a boss :D18:11
HtheBMAG for president!18:12
MohammadAGI hate politics18:12
MohammadAGIf anything I'd just shut down the white house18:12
HtheBwhy do people always think about the white house18:12
HtheBwhen I just say president :D18:12
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MohammadAGCause it's white and cute18:13
HtheBTurkey also has a president18:13
DocScrutinizerohyeah, mohammad for Turkey president18:13
DocScrutinizerI see that happen18:14
MohammadAGMeanwhile, turkey buys Nokia and fires slop18:14
MohammadAGThat might be useful18:14
DocScrutinizerbtw the Turkish president never got elected by acclamation :-P18:14
HtheBthe Turkish  prime minister does18:15
HtheBErdogan <318:15
HtheBMohammadAG: well, the shares of Nokia are so low at the moment...18:17
HtheBBut then again, I think Microsoft will be the new owner of Nokia (Mobile devision)18:18
HtheBJust like google did with Motorola18:18
hiemanshuinteresting in mouse area onDoubleClicked activates with onClicked as well :/18:18
matrixxX-Fade: ping18:26
matrixxX-Fade: I'm trying to "community QA" some apps in, but pressing the community QA buttons gives me 502 Bad Gateway18:27
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merlin1991what is the sanest way to have a settings applet in control panel (libduicontrolpanel) and still have notifications about setting changes in your application?18:28
merlin1991I went for a gconf based settings system for now since in theory it should allow me todo what I just said18:29
merlin1991but since it's an all qt application I wonder if there is a more qtish way to achieve what  I want18:29
radiofreemerlin1991: libgq-gconf ;)18:31
thpmerlin1991: working on something nice?18:31
merlin1991radiofree: you don't want to see what I did to libgq-gconf18:31
merlin1991and gconf isn't exactly the qt way of doing settings :D18:32
merlin1991thp: yep quassel made a big step forward on the sprint18:32
radiofreeits the harmattan way though?18:32
merlin1991100% curtesy of Sput though18:32
MohammadAGThe qt way is this18:32
merlin1991radiofree: I don't know that, thus I'm askin18:32
MohammadAGQSettings + QFileSystemWatcher to monitor changes18:33
MohammadAGTheres also someting called don't on Meego18:33
merlin1991I just spent 2 days chageing the settings backend to gconf18:33
thpmerlin1991: cool :) screenshots?18:33
merlin1991will do some when I got the settings applet done :)18:34
merlin1991MohammadAG: I'm not so sure how QFileSystemWatcher is in terms of efficency18:35
MohammadAGmerlin1991: It uses iowatch or whatever its called afaik18:35
MohammadAGA Linux kernel thing, doesnt work on virtual files for example18:36
DocScrutinizerlet me guess - qfilesystemwatcher never heard of inotify and rather is using a timer to poll every 500mS?18:36
MohammadAGYeah, inotify18:36
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer: Qt is sane, the devs are sane18:36
MohammadAGQt mobility on the other hand...18:36
DocScrutinizeraaah yeah, sorry18:36
merlin1991according to
merlin1991I'm stuck with GConf if I do a declarative applet18:37
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faenilMohammadAG: you like to play with dbus, do you know how to get antenna signal strenght?18:48
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lardman|labfaenil: tried a variation of the following?:
faenilmmm a variation as in?18:53
lardman|labsee if that one works first of all...18:54
faeniltyping :P18:54
lardman|labalso, you should iirc be able to query that component to see what methods it supports, can't remember how mind you18:54
faenilantenna performance :D try with and without aluminium backplate, coz n950 is unusable here18:55
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faeniltoo weak18:55
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faenillardman|lab : ServiceUnknown19:00
lardman|labok, well it would have been  too easy19:00
lardman|labI wonder whether just recording dbus messages as the signal strength varies would receive the dbus message in question, assuming it is provided by dbus that is19:02
faenilyeah...any shortcut to record?19:03
lardman|labyeah, though I'm not an expert19:04
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frinringjust got my first N9 \o/     But:19:11
frinringhad it broken after a few minutes, due to first updating the apps, only then updating the whole system to pr 1.119:12
frinringany can tell me how to fix this? :/19:12
rm_workyou should be able to reflash the device?19:12
rm_workbasically factory reset / wipe19:12
rm_workIE, plug it in with USB and run the flash utility on your computer19:13
rm_workthough I don't know about the availability of flash images for the N919:13
rm_workthe N950 has some available, but... N9 may not19:13
nid0the images are available fine from navifirm19:14
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frinringnid0: is navifirm some official tool? and what about an official flasher? so far I always read that these things are hacks. and I do not really want to enable dev mode or similar :(19:16
jonninavifirm is 3rd party, but it downloads images from nokia servers. official one is NSU and pc suite.19:17
nid0navifirm is an unofficial tool, but it just downloads the firmware from nokia19:17
frinringrm_work: yes, no problem for me at work, do that all the time. but this is a non-dev device I do not want to screw :)19:17
nid0the flasher to flash the firmware is official though19:17
frinringnid0: for the n9?19:17
nid0flasher v 3.12.1 is the n9 flasher19:18
rm_workfrinring: well you said you just got it, so i figured you couldn't have too much on it already and a flash wouldn't hurt19:18
frinringrm_work: I am afraid to screw it with regard to guarantee and such stuff19:19
nid0reflashing the device doesnt hurt your warranty19:19
rm_workwait did you BUY it?19:19
rm_workofficially buy it?19:19
frinringrm_work: yes19:19
rm_worki didn't think they were on sale yet O_o19:19
rm_workwhen did that happen19:19
nid0months ago?19:19
Stskeepsyes, months ago19:20
Stskeepsjust not in US :P19:20
rm_workI thought the official product release was December19:20
nid0months ago, albeit in limited countries19:20
rm_worki mean, it was only a couple of months ago that they even officially said they weren't going to release it in the US/UK19:20
nid0but in the usa for example, expansys have had them for a while, and amazon has them through various sellers (but in some cases fulfilling them themselves)19:20
rm_workor did i lose like 3-4 months of time somewhere19:20
nid0I think so19:21
nid0where are you exactly19:21
frinringnid0: thanks for the link19:21
rm_worki really want to see one in person19:22
rm_workthough I would not be happy without the keyboard from the N950 anyway :(19:23
nid0so did I till mine arrived \o/19:23
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nid0tbh, im missing the hwkb less than I thought I would. admittedly I got weaned away from hwkb-ness by the n900's hwkb being shite, but swype on the n9 really makes the vkb a lot less problematic19:24
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rm_workI liked the N900's keyboard after a few weeks of getting used to it :P19:34
jreznikrm_work: 1000000 times better than n950 keyboard, I'm not a big fan of vkb but I feel harmattan vkb is fat better than n950 hw one, so I did not use it... but still n9 miss hw keyboard19:35
Chaz6Weird, I much prefer the n950 keyboard to the n900 :)19:36
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jreznikI was really fast from day one on n900, on n950 I'm faster with vkb :D feels like toy19:38
rm_worklol i got used to n950 keyboard a lot faster than i got used to the n900 keyboard19:40
nibblerrm_work: yeah. 3 rows vs. 4 rows.19:41
faenillardman|lab : after some research, I guess it's not a dbus api :(19:41
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DocScrutinizerxterm, less, vkbd: a dream^Hnightmare team19:49
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grifaenil: found something20:35
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faenilgri: oh did you?20:36
faenilI have only a few mins :)20:36
faenilmmmmm _D20:36
griInternet.SignalStrength atleast sounds like something you're looking for20:36
faenilbut that's wifi's one...isnt it?20:37
grino idea, could be20:37
griI also take a look at the oter files, moment20:37
gribetter? :D20:37
faenildefinitely :D20:38
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griso it's about 3 lines of code to get the signal strength20:39
faenilservice and path of that cellular.signalstrenght?20:41
grilike the two lines of the first example code20:41
faenilcan't do that with dbus-send --print-reply?20:42
griI have no idea20:42
faenilcan I know the file in which you found that string? :)20:43
griwell, contextkit providers are not dbus services20:43
faenilmmm but there are contextkit dbus messages..20:43
grithe file was /usr/share/contextkit/providers/
faenilok thanks...20:45
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faenilneed to go now20:45
faenilI'll look into it later or tomorrow, bye people :) thanks gri20:45
gribye, have fun :)20:45
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KRFare there any plans to release nokia maps suite for harmattan? any insiders? ;)20:48
KRFfunctionality in nokia drive seems quite limited - doesn't even show ETA.20:50
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SpeedEvilnp: BlackBox Recorder - The Art of Driving.20:51
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Jare_duh, everything works, but my sip service complains about network error when the openvpn tunnel is up. Wtf they have broken in it :/21:10
Jare_web browser etc have no problem accessing stuff through the tunnel21:11
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Jare_hmm, it sends packets out from the tun0 interface, but for some reason those packets have the current public ip address as source address and not the ip of tun0 interface21:26
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npmDoes Ovi accept applications implementing a password-protected webserver (i.e the app provides/needs webservice at port 80/444) and does the N9/N950 platform have any limitations preventing such feature?21:44
DocScrutinizershould, shouldn't21:45
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* npm wants to add external access to platform notes/transcriptions for
DocScrutinizerwait, the app *provides* webservice? nah :-/21:46
npmso i figured the app could put up a web-page and then you could just browse it off your desktop21:46
npmweb-page or feed.21:46
DocScrutinizernot at all sure abut policy regarding that21:46
DocScrutinizerport 80 as 444 are "privileged"21:46
DocScrutinizerI bet you can't do that as user21:47
npmso some over 1000 port then21:47
DocScrutinizeryup, if at all21:47
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npmbut then would that be blocked by a firewall?21:47
DocScrutinizersure, if there is any, it should block such stuff21:47
npmany other apps on harmattan try to do such foolishness?21:48
DocScrutinizersshd ;-D21:48
npmi was thinking of that, but don't ovi store apps require not being in developer mode/21:48
npmi guess it could be a feature you could enable by being in developer mode21:49
DocScrutinizerjust saying it's also a server21:49
DocScrutinizersure you could forward ports via ssh21:49
npmnot only a server, but secure. All you'd need is...21:49
DocScrutinizerclumsy but should work21:49
npmyou took the words right out of my fingermouths21:50
npmsounds like a feature that exceeded most people's level of dorkdrom21:50
DocScrutinizerisn't there netcat available on HARM (devel tool), so you could easily test, also vis e.g port 8088 or sth21:51
DocScrutinizeror socat21:53
npmyeap... but the feature starts becoming unappetizing if it requires too much stuff for the end user to setup21:53
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npmwhereas point your web browser at your n9's address on your home network is pretty easy21:54
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npminteresting thing is that I got VoiceToGoog running quite nice on my destop, and rejiggered all the external launchers to do useful things on the desktop instead...21:55
npmalternative is to just have a "remote" mode for the desktop version that browses your n9's data21:55
npmand lets you playlist and audio-tour what you captured during the day on your desktop or laptop21:56
npmi was thinking about an "evernote" version but the privacy-violating possibilities are truly zuckerbergian21:58
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npmoh ... see ... VoiceToGoog 0.2.2 is now available in China (no longer blocked due to YouTube access)22:01
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macmaNJare_: sup. hows it working so far? sip is the only thing non-functional?22:29
Jare_sip was nearly the only thing why i was so keen to do those scripts :B22:30
Jare_but it seems to be working quite nicely, haven't found any clear bugs yet22:31
macmaNive been thinking about starting a qt openvpn gui project22:39
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