| artemma | How do you detect screen orientation in Harmattan (e.g. for title bar resizing) | 00:03 |
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| artemma | I am trying screen.orientation, but somehow not sure if it works | 00:04 |
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| rantom | http://blip.tv/roosterteeth/11-lbs-of-ketchup-5583037 | 00:10 |
| rantom | Whoops, wrong channel, sorry | 00:10 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Oooh, scary. | 00:26 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Shall I expect a friend request? Or be offended if not? | 00:27 |
| mja | artemma, you've had a look at this?: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Best_practices_for_application_development_Controlling_rotation.html?tab=3&kw=landscape&sp=all&sa=0 | 00:27 |
| artemma | Thanks, mja, that example doesn't work on harmattan | 00:28 |
| artemma | I solved it already though | 00:28 |
| artemma | as usual small nagging details between symbian comps, harmattan comps and harmattan docs | 00:28 |
| artemma | To pay respect to Symbian comps team: their docs are surprisingly accurate and good. Also easier to use, so most of time when developing for Harmattan, I actually use Symbian components docs | 00:29 |
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| artemma | what is the easy way to install boosted WG to PR.1.1? | 01:02 |
| artemma | I like their screenshotting | 01:02 |
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| artemma | how do you ssh to device in PR1.1 | 01:23 |
| artemma | ? | 01:23 |
| artemma | I remember people talking about problems with it, maybe by now these are solved :) | 01:23 |
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| M4rtinK | artemma: for some reason (probably Aigis :P) it is no longer possible to login as root | 03:06 |
| M4rtinK | logging in as user works though | 03:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | grep PermitRootLogin /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 03:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | ? | 03:29 |
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| jabis | hmm - the rsync package requires base-files >= 4.0.1 - which repo holds them - no provides link | 04:13 |
| jabis | nvm - searched the logs and it's a faulty depends, forced dep-version and installed ok | 04:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | everything installs OK on forced deps. It's just a question of running the app if it coredumps any time with unresolved external symbol. Good practice to check the app with LD_BIND_NOW=true, so you notice any unresolved symbols immediately rather than at random point in time during runtime | 04:48 |
| jabis | DocScrutinizer: I meant it's not actually needing the deps - it was fixed at some point, but the deps got back at a later merge to the pkg | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | LD_BIND_NOW will tell you for sure | 04:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | man ld-linux | 04:51 |
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| jabis | have to test it when I get up - now time to sleep a few hours (5am already x) | 05:07 |
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| meegomy | hi | 05:44 |
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| iekku | morning | 07:45 |
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| meegomy | morning | 07:54 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 07:55 |
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| Qantourisc | morning | 08:39 |
| Qantourisc | How easy is it to run custom software on this thing ? | 08:39 |
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| xarcass | Qantourisc: piece of cake | 08:44 |
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| macmaN | hrm, when you share an image from gallery with no internet connection and it moves to Pending Transfer, no amount of connecting to internet seems to initiate this transfer afterwards | 10:33 |
| macmaN | 39-5 | 10:33 |
| macmaN | at least not without a reboot i believe | 10:34 |
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| macmaN | it could also be related to "background internet connections" being off | 10:38 |
| macmaN | im noticing things want to unwork when you turn that off | 10:39 |
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| meegomy | LCD screen possible change to AMOLED screen? | 10:47 |
| mece | huh? | 10:49 |
| mece | I think the screen is custom made for the device. I don't think you can change it | 10:49 |
| Arkenoi | still no new ocf? | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | it's monday morning in finland, you should know -nothing- happens until people's caffeine levels are reached | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:56 |
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| ieatlint | it's 11am in finland, the caffeine should be in by now | 11:02 |
| Tronic | No way. My alarm clock just ran and I only had a sip so far. | 11:03 |
| Tronic | *rang | 11:03 |
| ieatlint | try pure powdered caffiene | 11:03 |
| ieatlint | and remember, if you have enough, it causes hallucinations and psychotic episodes... so you have a goal! | 11:04 |
| meegomy | i was wondering its that possible to rip off AMOLED from e7 & put it into N950 :P | 11:22 |
| alterego | Heh | 11:22 |
| alterego | N950 signal and battery are much better in latest update. | 11:24 |
| RST38h | meegowy: no. | 11:24 |
| meegomy | ah.. thats bad | 11:27 |
| ieatlint | meegomy: try it. | 11:33 |
| artemma | Рш фдд | 11:35 |
| artemma | Hi all | 11:36 |
| artemma | what is the easy way to install boosted WG to PR.1.1? | 11:36 |
| artemma | I like their screenshotting | 11:36 |
| meegomy | ieatlint: its the LCD & AMOLED screen port is the same? o.O | 11:38 |
| ieatlint | i doubt it, but i'd love to hear what happens in the attempt | 11:38 |
| RST38h | with a video | 11:39 |
| meegomy | it'll void my e7 warranty =| | 11:39 |
| ieatlint | and remember, if random guy on irc tells you to do it, you must | 11:40 |
| meegomy | rite | 11:40 |
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| meegomy | risky | 11:44 |
| meegomy | no proper documentation of disassemble n950 | 11:45 |
| deram | one positive thing: it won't void the n950 warranty (as it does not exist) | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | but you would probably have to pay 600 eur when they ask back the loan in device programme | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:49 |
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| meegomy | ouch... | 11:49 |
| Arkenoi | RST38h, here? is weird autocapitalization finally fixed in pr1.1? | 11:50 |
| ieatlint | yeah, they'll probably do that any day now | 11:53 |
| hiemanshu | Arkenoi: Dont think so | 11:54 |
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| meegomy | i got this device less than a week o.O | 11:56 |
| jreznik | Arkenoi: it is not fixed (as I hit it several times) | 12:06 |
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| artemma | how do you ssh to device in PR1.1? | 12:13 |
| artemma | I remember people talking about problems with it, maybe by now these are solved :) | 12:13 |
| artemma | mobile terminal is good, by sshing is more efficient | 12:13 |
| nibbler | artemma: ssh to or from the phone? | 12:17 |
| artemma | ssh to phone from my desktop | 12:17 |
| artemma | to manipulate phone's file system from my desktop | 12:17 |
| Hq` | what problems? | 12:17 |
| artemma | try it :) | 12:17 |
| Hq` | you can't login as root but logging in as developer should work as usual | 12:17 |
| artemma | it says "permission denied" | 12:17 |
| sandst1 | artemma: root ssh is disabled. use ssh user@192.168.2.15 and then devel-su | 12:17 |
| artemma | oh.. | 12:18 |
| sandst1 | or as developer | 12:18 |
| sandst1 | as Hq` said | 12:18 |
| nibbler | artemma: try as user. | 12:18 |
| artemma | what's the password? | 12:18 |
| mece | artemma, you need to set it on device | 12:19 |
| artemma | wow | 12:19 |
| artemma | you mean passwd? | 12:19 |
| mece | yes | 12:19 |
| mece | artemma, devel-su; passwd user | 12:20 |
| artemma | I wonder what happens if I forget it | 12:20 |
| mece | nothing | 12:20 |
| artemma | will devel-su still override everythign (so that I could set password to something else)? | 12:20 |
| mece | yes. It's root. | 12:20 |
| artemma | thanks you, it worked | 12:21 |
| mece | np. | 12:21 |
| mece | is there still no image to flash for N9? | 12:23 |
| ieatlint | seemingly not | 12:25 |
| mece | ouch | 12:27 |
| sandst1 | mece: there is. you can download it with NaviFirm | 12:27 |
| mece | sandst1, umm wot? | 12:27 |
| sandst1 | mece: http://www.symbian-toys.com/navifirm.aspx | 12:27 |
| sandst1 | mece: it's a tool that crawls through N public servers and allows you to download firmware images for various models | 12:28 |
| sandst1 | mece: and it also shows n9 images | 12:28 |
| sandst1 | mece: just reflashed my n9 last week | 12:28 |
| mece | oh? | 12:28 |
| mece | where are the public N9 images I wonder... | 12:28 |
| sandst1 | mece: good question.. | 12:29 |
| mece | I guess I can track where it downloads stuff from. | 12:29 |
| mece | I'll check it out. Thanks sandst1 | 12:30 |
| sandst1 | mece: np. here's some discussion on the topic: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4728 | 12:30 |
| mece | wow pretty cool :) | 12:33 |
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| artemma | How can I make the Row be of height of what its children want + some margins on top and bottom? | 12:59 |
| artemma | I can come up only with the nested structures that look a little ugly | 13:00 |
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| sandst1 | artemma: doesn't Row have a children parameter? so sth like height = children.height + margin? | 13:01 |
| artemma | you mean childrenRect I suppose> | 13:01 |
| artemma | ? | 13:01 |
| tomma | you cant set height for row... but you can insert empty item with marging height? | 13:02 |
| artemma | exactly :) | 13:02 |
| artemma | I don't like empty item | 13:02 |
| artemma | right now I am trying to wrap row with an Item or Rectangle | 13:02 |
| artemma | so that I could use margins in the wrapper | 13:02 |
| sandst1 | artemma: ah yes, childrenrect | 13:02 |
| artemma | yep, wrapper worked, not sure if Ilike it enough though | 13:03 |
| artemma | sandst1: problem is that it would modify the childrenRect.height :) | 13:03 |
| sandst1 | artemma: good point :) | 13:05 |
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| kgutteridge | must be a stupid question but here goes! If I have an app for the N9 that just consists of a rectangle that I want to be full screen portrait, do I really have to rotate the view by -90 to stop it appearing in landscape? | 15:19 |
| kgutteridge | I have set the QmlApplicationViewer to lock to portrait | 15:20 |
| hiemanshu | kgutteridge: you have to lock the individual Pages to an orientation | 15:21 |
| hiemanshu | and you should use PageStackWindow and Page for your app, and embed the rectangle inside that | 15:21 |
| kgutteridge | hiemanshu: ill give that a whirl thanks | 15:22 |
| kgutteridge | i take it use the orientationLock on the QML page component | 15:23 |
| sandst1 | kgutteridge: yup. orientationLock: PageOrientation.LockPortrait | 15:23 |
| mece | I'm curious, are the sharing plugins on Harmattan similar to those on Fremantle? | 15:27 |
| tomma | it uses http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-sharing-framework | 15:28 |
| mece | tomma, thanks | 15:31 |
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| wook | Hello :) | 15:53 |
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| iekku | :) | 15:57 |
| wook | Hehehehe :) you here too :P | 15:57 |
| matrixx | :P | 15:57 |
| wook | So, you know my question about landscape mode :P | 15:58 |
| matrixx | wook: by default it doesn't work in landscape, but it can be hacked with a simple tweek | 15:58 |
| matrixx | instructions here: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=24933 | 15:59 |
| wook | Great :D i love tweakings :D | 16:00 |
| matrixx | though a bit outdated, with latest software you can't ssh as root | 16:00 |
| matrixx | need to open a new login shell with devel-su instead | 16:00 |
| wook | su | 16:01 |
| wook | Meego | 16:01 |
| wook | Meego | 16:01 |
| wook | I saw :D | 16:01 |
| wook | Really can't wait to put my paws on new device :D | 16:01 |
| decibyte | nice hack. i'm sometimes kinda missing the landscape mode from n900. | 16:02 |
| wook | I never tried n900 :S | 16:02 |
| wook | Went for n97mini instead for n900 :S | 16:02 |
| matrixx | I used the hack in the first version of the fw, but didn't bother to apply it after flashing beta2 | 16:03 |
| wook | Anyone oc-ed n950? :D | 16:03 |
| matrixx | been trying to get used to the vkb if I own N9 some day ;) | 16:03 |
| matrixx | I just have to learn to live with it | 16:03 |
| wook | My e7 is 90% of time in landscape mode (including now) :D | 16:04 |
| wook | And when charging :D | 16:04 |
| wook | Btw, in n950 is regular sim card? Not micro one? | 16:06 |
| matrixx | wook: yes | 16:06 |
| wook | Good :D | 16:06 |
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| wook | What about task switching? | 16:06 |
| decibyte | what about it? | 16:07 |
| wook | Is there switcher or it has to be done with swipe only? | 16:08 |
| decibyte | haven't you seen any videos showing how it works? | 16:08 |
| matrixx | wook: yeah you need to swipe your current app away first before accessing the switcher | 16:09 |
| wook | Ahh, then first i'll do is "fn+left/right" for switching the apps :D | 16:10 |
| deimos | If I remember well I read somewhere that also ctrl+backspace can switch | 16:10 |
| deimos | wook: oh yes, maybe that | 16:11 |
| decibyte | that's obviously for n950 only | 16:11 |
| decibyte | wook: i.e. it won't be any help to all n9 users | 16:12 |
| wook | I use ctrl+backspace for eqAltTab on my e7 :D | 16:12 |
| deram | this reminds me, are the volume buttons on N9 able to be mapped to any function in my own program? | 16:13 |
| deram | for example to pageup/down in enhanced terminal program... | 16:14 |
| wook | Deram, maybe volume keys can be used for tast switching too :-O :D | 16:15 |
| wook | *task | 16:15 |
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| wook | Wow, this is awesome machine :D | 16:26 |
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| Frye | I would be happy if the volume keys could be used for changing volume inside youtube video or music player =) | 16:31 |
| wook | :D | 16:31 |
| Frye | Looks like that functionality just drops out at some point | 16:31 |
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| Frye | after restart it's perfect again. Happened twice now | 16:32 |
| wook | Frye, n950? | 16:32 |
| Frye | N9 =) | 16:32 |
| mece | hello | 16:32 |
| Frye | I don't have the luxury of N950 =( | 16:32 |
| Frye | Although I have to say I do like the N9 too | 16:32 |
| wook | I wouldn't be able to use it without qwerty....:S | 16:33 |
| wook | Qwertz actually | 16:33 |
| merlin1991 | german vkbd doesn't have the ß ! | 16:34 |
| Frye | I thought so at first | 16:34 |
| Frye | as I had N900 in the past | 16:34 |
| deram | I'd love to see this one tailormade for N9 http://www.amazon.com/BoxWave-Keyboard-Buddy-iPhone-Case/dp/B004L0K3KW | 16:34 |
| Frye | but it's _very_ usable when compared for example to iPhone I have lying around here | 16:34 |
| Frye | the feedback form the on-screen keyboard is actually quite nice | 16:35 |
| wook | Frye, saw e7's vkbd? | 16:35 |
| Frye | nope | 16:35 |
| wook | Hmmm, it is also good, but my fingers are not designed for it... | 16:36 |
| deram | the main oskb is nice, it's just that for terminal + screen + irssi, it would be nice to have more screen for display than keyboard | 16:36 |
| Frye | deram, so true | 16:37 |
| decibyte | deram: word! | 16:37 |
| wook | Yes deram, agree on that | 16:37 |
| Frye | that's why I have not yet bothered with the irc clients | 16:37 |
| Frye | I'm afraid I get disappointed ;-) | 16:37 |
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| wook | Frye, atm i am online here from my E7 :D | 16:37 |
| Frye | but as irc was already useless with iPhone, it can't get worse since the vkbd is better =) | 16:38 |
| Frye | yeah I used to run xchat on my N900 | 16:38 |
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| Frye | tbh if I have to choose which one I will carry as a secondary phone it will be N900 over iPhone anyday | 16:38 |
| Hq` | hey, you could try http://hqh.unlink.org/harmattan :) | 16:38 |
| Frye | because of the keyboard | 16:38 |
| Hq` | (a shameless advertisement) | 16:38 |
| wook | Frye, can meego support maemo's apps? | 16:39 |
| deram | the meego-terminal could use a patch that makes it not notify the terminal resize every time the vkbd comes up or goes down.. | 16:39 |
| kgutteridge | hiemanshu: thanks a lot have the app all working in portrait, if your at Nokia World or ever in London I owe you a beer/coffee | 16:39 |
| Frye | wook, Not directly I think. | 16:39 |
| Frye | unless the maemo app was a qt app | 16:39 |
| Frye | however I'm not that good with the development stuff | 16:39 |
| wook | Ahaa | 16:40 |
| decibyte | Hq`: that looks like an interesting approach :) | 16:40 |
| Frye | But I believe the xchat UI was written with gtk | 16:40 |
| Frye | so it would not work out of the box | 16:40 |
| Frye | needs a qt UI at least | 16:40 |
| wook | Gotcha :D | 16:40 |
| Frye | (disclaimer: I could be totally lost with the development stuff) | 16:40 |
| Frye | But that's my impression | 16:40 |
| flux | I would actually expect that a lot of the code that makes up xchat is in its ui :) | 16:41 |
| Frye | Hq`, looks good. I need to give it a shot | 16:41 |
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| wook | Guys, see you later :) i will continue to bother you, especially when n950 comes ;) :D | 16:44 |
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| deram | Hq`: care to share the sourcecode for that? | 16:46 |
| Wirta | I accidentaly the whole harmattan | 16:49 |
| dm8tbr | Wirta: I think that's called MOSLO | 16:50 |
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| spenap | Wirta, lol | 16:51 |
| Wirta | :) | 16:52 |
| hiemanshu | kgutteridge: I am far far away :P but if I do come to London ever, I'll call you up for my free beer :D | 16:52 |
| Frye | btw has anyone tested which one will drain battery faster, running irssi on N9/N950 or running treminal + ssh and irssi elsewhere? | 16:52 |
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| radiofree | Hq`: that's excellent! | 16:53 |
| radiofree | Hq`: what would be more excellent is custom layouts (or at least move the return key below pgdn) | 16:53 |
| Wirta | basicly im facing this same problem: | 16:54 |
| Wirta | ERROR: SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 10: Security failure | 16:54 |
| Wirta | ... | 16:54 |
| Wirta | Downgrade disallowed (1308869582) | 16:54 |
| Wirta | guess Il have to wait for new flasher | 16:54 |
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| hiemanshu | Wirta: in that time, you can try out Meego CE | 17:06 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hiemanshu | 17:06 | |
| *** hiemanshu changes topic to "A place for harmattan device and development discussions | If on N950+PR1.1 DO NOT USE BETA2 OCF! WAIT for new OCF! If you already did, try MeeGo CE| Developers check this: http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/ | UPGRADES: http://bit.ly/rffn73" | 17:07 | |
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| * DocScrutinizer frowns at bit.ly addr | 17:08 | |
| hiemanshu | DocScrutinizer: the link is huge | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | even friggin fails on #meego-arm | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>This channel is logged, read them at http://bit.ly/cFN6Zd << HAHAHA | 17:09 |
| hiemanshu | DocScrutinizer: that link is 188 chars long | 17:10 |
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| wook | Heya guys, one question, will: http://code.google.com/p/linnya/ work with n950? | 17:12 |
| RST38h | Doc: What exactly is the problem with beta2 ocf + ota? | 17:12 |
| Wirta | hiemanshu, what can you do with it? prob no call functions? | 17:13 |
| hiemanshu | Wirta: help test, its better than having an expensive paperweight | 17:14 |
| Wirta | :) | 17:14 |
| flux | wirta, no idea, but it uses the gtk libraries, which don't come with n950. and it will look out-of-place even if you put them in. | 17:20 |
| flux | wook I meant | 17:20 |
| wook | Aha, so gtk libs should be fixed up for meego... | 17:20 |
| hiemanshu | probably will never be done | 17:21 |
| Frye | Well it would be like going back to full wooden wheels | 17:21 |
| hiemanshu | or cycling with square tires | 17:21 |
| flux | simply reimplement gtk in terms of qtquick! | 17:21 |
| Frye | yep | 17:21 |
| Frye | flux, that might work! | 17:21 |
| Frye | Well it was not _that_ bad I think | 17:22 |
| Frye | make the wheels with 8 corners... | 17:22 |
| Frye | less bouncy ;-) | 17:22 |
| flux | if the applications have 'proper mvc' isolation, perhaps adding a qtquick ui would be a simple task | 17:24 |
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| Frye | I have not done anything real with qtquick yet, but what I've looked into it it looks interesting | 17:26 |
| Frye | Have been tied to some iPhone stuff lately | 17:27 |
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| Hq` | deram: no, still thinking about making it a paid ovi app (even though the current version is available for free) :P | 17:33 |
| Hq` | radiofree: yeah, I'm planning to make the layout configurable | 17:34 |
| wook | Can python m | 17:39 |
| wook | *work with touch? | 17:40 |
| wook | Damn nimbuzz, brb :S | 17:40 |
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| louisdk | Hi. I've enabled dev mode on an N9 and is logged in as root on a terminal but "ifconfig" can't be found. | 18:04 |
| lardman | try /sbin/ifconfig | 18:05 |
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| aheinecke | in a postinstallation script of a package i have to change the group of a file in /var/log. What credential do i have to request from aegis? | 18:08 |
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| MohammadAG | you need a credential to chown? :| | 18:08 |
| aheinecke | ok i've tried to request CAP::chgrp | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | you'd think installer scripts had those credentials by default | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | also I didn't know you even can request any credentials for *installer* via the package you're going to install | 18:12 |
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| flux | how do I make those notification boxes that pop up and go away? | 18:16 |
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| flux | (apparently not with dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.Notifications /org/freedesktop/Notifications | 18:19 |
| flux | org.freedesktop.Notifications.SystemNoteInfoprint string:"NOTIFICATION") | 18:19 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, thanks for the NMEA BT thing | 18:24 |
| MohammadAG | (in columbus) | 18:24 |
| MohammadAG | flux, fremantle? | 18:25 |
| flux | mohammadag, no, harmattan | 18:25 |
| tomma | flux, http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta/api_refs/xml/daily-docs/libmeegotouch/class_m_notification.html and there should be some qml component for that too | 18:25 |
| MohammadAG | MBanner for MTF | 18:25 |
| flux | well, I'm writing a short piece of software that only does that, which would be better?-) | 18:26 |
| tomma | banner seems good | 18:27 |
| flux | thanks for the pointers | 18:27 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, and columbus crashed :p | 18:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | >> const QString MNotification::DeviceAddedEvent = "device.added" [static] A device, such as a USB device, was added to the system.<< HAH! | 18:31 |
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| MohammadAG | yes OTG was planned, again :p | 18:32 |
| MohammadAG | and technically, that's the meego folk, not Nokia | 18:32 |
| louisdk | Where can I find a guide on how to enable ssh on the N9? | 18:32 |
| MohammadAG | Settings -> Security -> Developer mode on | 18:33 |
| GNUton | Hi there, are the SDL libs available in some repos? | 18:33 |
| MohammadAG | so apparently my N950 was delayed till tomorrow | 18:33 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder how many times I'll be hearing that | 18:33 |
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| louisdk | MohammadAG: It's enabled. What next? | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | install Utilities afaik | 18:37 |
| louisdk | There's no afaik under dev mode > utilities. And there's no afaik by searching apt-cache search afaik. | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | ... | 18:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~afaik | 18:49 |
| infobot | i heard afaik is some kind of acronym...but nobody knows what it means, as far as I know. | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | http://www.my-meego.com/grafika/developermode2.jpg | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | Utilities | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | and probably Networking | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually ssh is in none of those pkgs under security->develmode | 18:52 |
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| louisdk | DocScrutinizer: I see that. | 18:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, >> start ssh | 18:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno if it's installed ootb on beta2 | 18:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | (beta1 here) | 18:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | or reboot ;-) | 18:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | initctl status ssh | 18:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | initctl list|grep ssh | 18:59 |
| louisdk | :DocScrutinizer: sh: start not found - initctl not found | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | also notice >>"on beta2 you can't log in as root."<< | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | louisdk: you'll need root/develsh for those commands | 19:01 |
| louisdk | :DocScrutinizer: I'm logged in as root. | 19:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 19:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | seems your $PATH is thoroughly messed up then | 19:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# ls -l `which start` | 19:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jun 11 11:19 /sbin/start -> initctl | 19:03 |
| louisdk | :DocScrutinizer: # /sbin/status ssh - ssh already running. | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | so it shuld "just work" | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# id | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),4(adm),20(dialout),44(video),670(pulse-access) | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# echo $PATH | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 | 19:05 |
| louisdk | Premission denied. I'm used the pass seen under Connectivity details. I've tried both user and root. | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, see^^^ | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | also notice >>"on beta2 you can't log in as root."<< | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | and for user you'll probably need to define a password as pw-less logins aren't usually allowed either | 19:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but I can't help there as I don't have beta2/N9 | 19:09 |
| louisdk | I'm in. pass: rootme | 19:09 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: aren't you going to get a n9 for hostmode research? | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's been the story as of >2 weeks ago. Asked what's up with it 2 days ago, no reply whatsoever | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | neither for my first mail with signed NDA, nor for the asking as of 2 days ago | 19:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, I seem to recall the N950-DDP wasn't exactly fast processing either | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | so I guess I start to worry when I haven't heard anything at new year | 19:14 |
| * merlin1991 curses the nfc framework | 19:18 | |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, who are you emailing? | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | ronan CC quim | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | as adviced by ronan | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, he didn't advice me to CC quim | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe I should check my launchpad DDP page? | 19:33 |
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| MohammadAG | nah, this is an outside case | 19:35 |
| MohammadAG | if my N950 doesn't eventually arrive (i.e MIA) can I ask for another one? | 19:35 |
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| Corsac | there are still n950 developers devices? | 19:36 |
| Corsac | (and there are n9 ones?) | 19:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there's been *one* device Quim was able to make ship to hw-related developer | 19:38 |
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| Corsac | ok | 19:39 |
| MohammadAG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntk8U2ManXk err | 19:39 |
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| javispedro | maybe interesting -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqxYiXtzKd0 -- a promo of the N9 late manufacturing stages | 21:22 |
| X-Fade | javispedro: Cool video :) | 21:27 |
| RST38h | moo, javispedro, XFade | 21:28 |
| javispedro | moo | 21:28 |
| deimos | and cool 1st comment :) | 21:29 |
| macmaN | is it normal that harmattan foursquare app tells you that there's a comment on your checking but doesnt actually let you view it? | 21:31 |
| macmaN | check-inÄ | 21:31 |
| macmaN | check-in* | 21:31 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Gotta love manufacturing | 21:40 |
| * DocScrutinizer just wonders what that huge apperture in the back is for | 21:41 | |
| DocScrutinizer | also it's not exactly usual that plastic molded cases get milled out | 21:42 |
| javispedro | the camera ;P | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | doesn't look right | 21:43 |
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| dm8tbr | hmm are those glossy N9s? :D | 21:53 |
| dm8tbr | or is that just protective plastic film | 21:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | aren't all N9 glossy? | 21:55 |
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| SpeedEvil | javispedro: OMG! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqxYiXtzKd0&feature=player_detailpage#t=72s Nokia leaps whole generations ahead of competitors! | 22:16 |
| Stskeeps | SpeedEvil: what about it? :P | 22:17 |
| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: Milling is very economical in small quanties. | 22:17 |
| Stskeeps | SpeedEvil: oh, no sweatshops? | 22:17 |
| SpeedEvil | In Finland, sweatshops are good for you! | 22:19 |
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| Venemo | hey | 22:21 |
| Venemo | I've just got my new & shiny N950! :) | 22:21 |
| Venemo | So is there anything newsworthy in 39-5? | 22:22 |
| Venemo | I did not find any flashers for it, so I'm updating OTA | 22:22 |
| SpeedEvil | Venemo: Congratulations. | 22:22 |
| Venemo | thanks SpeedEvil :) | 22:22 |
| Stskeeps | SpeedEvil: ah, so it's a sauna factory | 22:22 |
| SpeedEvil | Venemo: Do not play Galaxy On Fire 2. At least for me, i's annoyingly addictive. | 22:22 |
| Venemo | it was really nice of Nokia to send me a new device instead of the old faulty one | 22:23 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 22:23 |
| Venemo | SpeedEvil, is there any way to make Aegis let me run arbitrary binaries? on 39-5? | 22:23 |
| Venemo | or disabling Aegis without crapping the whole device? | 22:23 |
| SpeedEvil | No idea, I have been mining asteroids non-stop for he last 38 hours. | 22:23 |
| Venemo | :D | 22:24 |
| tomma | everyone stopped developing and hacking after GoF2 was available... | 22:24 |
| SpeedEvil | I haven't actually upgraded. | 22:24 |
| SpeedEvil | I've been - actually - doing ouside stuff as the weather is turning nasty. | 22:24 |
| Venemo | mhm | 22:24 |
| ieatlint | many of the dev days attendees got n9s, hah | 22:25 |
| artemma | Galaxy on Fire on N950? You mean you downloaded deb from somewhere and installed it manually? | 22:26 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 22:26 |
| tomma | btw, landscape homescreen works fine with new firmware | 22:26 |
| * artemma can't see any GoF by default | 22:26 | |
| SpeedEvil | apt-get install gof2 | 22:26 |
| tomma | artemma, pkgmgr install -p gof2 | 22:26 |
| ieatlint | has anyone else noticed that maps no longer works in landscape mode? | 22:27 |
| artemma | what's the diffeence between apt-get and pkgmgr? | 22:27 |
| Venemo | tomma, by default? or you are referring to the redraw error? | 22:27 |
| artemma | landscape homescreen? I can see only portrait one | 22:27 |
| tomma | Venemo, no redraw error | 22:27 |
| Venemo | tomma, is it fixed now? | 22:27 |
| Venemo | how nice :) | 22:28 |
| ieatlint | oooh, i should enable that then | 22:28 |
| tomma | works for me =) | 22:28 |
| Venemo | tomma, how about landscape mode for facebook & twitter apps? | 22:28 |
| tomma | i dont use them =) | 22:28 |
| Venemo | eh. | 22:29 |
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| macmaN | lol gof2 | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | Venemo: updating OTA aiui leaves you with a device that can't get reflashed. So any hack done to disable aegis, or run meegoCE, or whatever, will semi-brick your N950 as no way (for now) to go back to harmattan proper | 22:34 |
| macmaN | are there any good multiphone games out there? | 22:34 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, wut? | 22:34 |
| Venemo | ~aiui | 22:34 |
| infobot | somebody said aiui was As I Understand It | 22:34 |
| Venemo | ah | 22:34 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer, so if I OTA, I won't be able to reflash? | 22:34 |
| Venemo | srsly? | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, for all I heard | 22:34 |
| Venemo | fuckyea | 22:35 |
| Venemo | well, too late :( already started the update. | 22:35 |
| ieatlint | the lock screen in 39-5 also shows basic music player controls when playing music | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, you *can* reflash - just it won't boot | 22:35 |
| Venemo | eeeee | 22:35 |
| Venemo | shit | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOLWTF http://paste.debian.net/139526/ | 22:37 |
| dm8tbr | you can just help and use MeeGo CE aka Nemo if your harmattan craps out before OCF is out. :) | 22:37 |
| ieatlint | that's normal, don't worry | 22:37 |
| ieatlint | :P | 22:37 |
| ieatlint | DocScrutinizer: OTA updates are done via apt-get, so it's showing that | 22:38 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm sure it diddn't do that for me | 22:38 |
| SpeedEvil | (on beta2) | 22:38 |
| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: you're still on beta1? | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder if I could install a dpkg | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: thought as much | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | just that I don't want to update | 22:42 |
| ieatlint | yeah... well, give me a few and i'll see what i can do there ;) | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | apt-get pin * ? | 22:43 |
| ieatlint | more like grab the deb | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, much appreciated | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | >> | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | The following packages will be REMOVED: mp-harmattan-rm680-pr << HAHA | 22:44 |
| dm8tbr | that probably explains the long list of 'no longer needed' | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | just curious why the MP would get removed | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's actually beyond my insight into apt why a package could get removed without me advising apt to do so. Replaced - yes. auto-removed - well ok, if I allow it. But outright removed? .oO(???) | 22:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (not that I ever really understood why we'd need any such metapackage at all) | 22:52 |
| ieatlint | DocScrutinizer: uploading now, is 119mb... will take 3-5min methinks | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 22:54 |
| ieatlint | i've got debs to most of 39-5, heh | 22:55 |
| ieatlint | for anyone interested, if you're in beta2, start the updater and let it download the pr1.1 update | 22:56 |
| ieatlint | then go to /var/cache/apt/archive :P | 22:56 |
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| ieatlint | then cancel the update if so desired | 22:56 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, apt-get install mp-harmattan-rm680-pr | 23:31 |
| MohammadAG | also, I need my N950, I got a project idea | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: eh? | 23:32 |
| MohammadAG | <DocScrutinizer> The following packages will be REMOVED: mp-harmattan-rm680-pr << HAHA | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, and? | 23:32 |
| matrixx | has anyone tried to read gconf with publish and subscribe? | 23:33 |
| artemma | matrixx: I tried, failed to make it work | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, just saying that should upgrade it well | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | matrixx, use qgconf | 23:33 |
| artemma | GConfItem from Maemo works fine | 23:33 |
| matrixx | artemma: oh, me too | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | libqg-conf0 | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-10-24 21:42:24] <DocScrutinizer> just that I don't want to update | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | a Qt wrapper for gconf | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, ah | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | I swear I'm gonna.... swear at DHL if the N950 isn't in Jerusalem tomorrow | 23:34 |
| matrixx | MohammadAG: ok, thanks | 23:34 |
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| matrixx | is it a known problem that publish and subscribe has issues? | 23:34 |
| * artemma fails to connect N950 PR 1.1 in a mass storage mode. QAD File Manager offers web access, but in PR 1.1 I can't log in into it. How to get my files? :) | 23:34 | |
| MohammadAG | not sure what publish and subscribe are | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | why does it fail? | 23:35 |
| matrixx | qt mobility way to access valuespaces like gconf | 23:35 |
| artemma | MohammadAG: I don't know, it just doesn't add a drive to system | 23:35 |
| MohammadAG | a umount /home/user/MyDocs might help | 23:35 |
| artemma | something is detected | 23:35 |
| matrixx | it shows it's connected but fails to print any values :/ | 23:35 |
| artemma | hmm, maybe Nokia Link allows for file download | 23:35 |
| * artemma went to try Nokia Link | 23:35 | |
| * artemma is trying to download screenshots for his new very cool (and this time free) app for ovi store submission | 23:37 | |
| DocScrutinizer | burn in hell, aegis! http://paste.debian.net/139545/ | 23:39 |
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| artemma | ok, device reboot helped, I can use N950 as mass storage again | 23:41 |
| macmaN | 22-6? mkay. | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | macmaN: yoh, probably the only N950 on this earth that still has proper develsh | 23:55 |
| macmaN | right right | 23:56 |
| javispedro | hey, mine does have an excellent develsh ;P | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | gof without joystick is impossible to handle for me | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | o/ | 23:57 |
| javispedro | what is gof? | 23:57 |
| SpeedEvil | You need to work out a proper control position | 23:58 |
| javispedro | ~gof | 23:58 |
| infobot | from memory, gof is Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson and John Vlissides, also known as the "Gang of Four," authors of "Design Patterns" | 23:58 |
| SpeedEvil | I recommend in a comfy chair, with the device at ~45 degrees nominal. | 23:58 |
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