IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2011-10-18

* SpeedEvil wonders about flash on n9.00:03
GeneralAntillesSpeedEvil, you notice that Harmattan is just completely useless for anything involving the web00:10
GeneralAntillesNo flash, no working HTML500:10
GeneralAntillesIt can't even render gifs at an acceptable speed00:10
GeneralAntillesThat WebKit browser is worse than the initial MicroB beta releases.00:10
MohammadAGI miss MicroB00:12
SpeedEvilGeneralAntilles: yeah00:13
faenil_I have never seen anything as smooth as n950 default browser instead.00:13
* SpeedEvil wonders what happens if you put a n900 / chroot on harm00:13
SpeedEvilCan you convince microb to start?00:13
MohammadAGSpeedEvil, Softfp/hardfp00:13
MohammadAGit might work though00:13
MohammadAGcan't we just write a Qt UI for a gecko engine?00:14
lardmanset LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to libm00:14
rm_worki thought the browser had really good HTML5 compatibility scores? >_>00:14
Lilltigerit has quite ok scores00:16
lardmanI also thought it worked better than microb, at least it renders at a useful speed00:16
lardmanno idea about whether it ticks all the boxes, etc.00:17
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MohammadAGlardman, comparing with a 256MB 600MHz device?00:18
LilltigerN9 got 255 points of 450, chrome in windows got 34100:19
lardmanwell in which case compared to my Galaxy Tab it looses quite badly in terms of usability, but I wonder how much of that is the fact that the Tab gets mobile sites and has a larger screen00:19
Lilltigern9 not supporting WebM is quite sad00:20
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MohammadAGlardman, the Tab has flash00:21
lardmanbut that is not a major usecase for me00:21
Lilltigergalaxy has worse html5 support then N900:22
Lilltigerios5 is the only to beat armattan on mobile phones00:23
lardmanI'm not sure supporting html5 perfectly really matters to most people00:24
lardmanspeed and ease of use00:24
Lilltigermy N9 renders the sites quite fast00:25
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lardmansure, the N950 works reasonably well00:26
Lilltigerbut sure, no flash, but I do not see that as a bad thing00:26
lardmannot having flash is bad, as you may sometimes want to view a flash site, etc., but I agree that it's not a major factor00:27
Lilltigerflash is a major securityflaw..00:27
Lilltigerand I never seen flash be in any way usable outside of windows00:28
macmaNany of you running fennec on n950?00:28
Lilltigerthe *nix versions are horrible bad00:28
macmaNi have an allergy against it just looks that bad.00:28
Lilltigerbut right now what I do want on my N9 is XBMC00:29
lardmanflash works on my Linux box, but as will all web stuff it's rather slow and I'm always worried it will crash. Perhaps that is just FF under Linux, certainly Windows is far more responsive00:29
macmaNLilltiger: i think its likely to show up00:30
LilltigermacmaN: probly, but i want it now! ;D00:30
macmaNpatchwelcome :)00:30
macmaNso my girl is gonna get a n9 for her birthday in one week. its hidden in the apt in the dustiest places possible so she wont go there and find it.00:31
Lilltigerwell it's debian.. I wich it was gentoo-based!00:32
macmaNthank goodness for n950 otherwise i wouldnt be able to resist cracking it open already00:32
macmaNand probably brick it trying to meego ce and whatnot :> that wouldnt make for a good gift00:32
lardmanBest to "brick" it now before she has all her contacts and messages on it ;)00:33
Lilltigerthe aegis free kernel seems very intresting =)00:33
macmaNmhm true true00:34
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macmaNgonna install fennec9a1 on n95000:41
lardmannight all, qml has worn me out00:52
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jpnurmiwhat could be the reason that n9 is not running sshd even though developer mode is turned on?00:52
macmaN"is not running" ps aux doesnt show it?00:59
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jpnurmimacmaN: exactly01:04
tommais it installed?01:04
jpnurmiit worked fine over the weekend :)01:05
tommarestart it?01:05
jpnurmii just restarted the phone and still nope :(01:05
tommarestart sshd01:05
jpnurmirunning it directly from /usr/sbin? there's no ssh in /etc/init.d01:06
jpnurmihmm, says nothing and still not running01:07
macmaNwhat less /var/log/messages show01:08
macmaNwhat less /var/log/syslog show01:08
jpnurmihuh, can't find anything related to ssh01:11
jpnurmii bet it would be still working if i didn't run out of battery today01:17
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jpnurmiso basically the problem is that qt creator says "Could not connect to host: Connection refused"01:18
jpnurmiis responds to ping, but cannot ssh01:18
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macmaNwell run sshd manually with debug switch, see whether it can start u01:20
tommait seems like sshd is started by /etc/init/ssh.conf ... no idea who is responsible of calling it01:20
jpnurmiokay now we're getting somewhere :)01:22
jpnurmibind to port 22 on failed: permission denied. cannot bind any address01:22
tommaare you running it as root?01:23
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DocScrutinizerinitctl status ssh03:11
DocScrutinizernetstat -t03:11
DocScrutinizerstart ssh03:12
DocScrutinizergrep AllowUser /etc/ssh/ssh_config03:18
DocScrutinizerRM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# ps ax|grep ssh03:19
DocScrutinizer  534 root     /usr/sbin/sshd -D -403:19
DocScrutinizer 1833 root     sshd: root@pts/003:19
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dr_drshI'm getting seg fault when I attempt to run this04:34
dr_drshdrive-qml "geo:30.051177,31.232672?action=driveTo"04:34
dr_drshI'm running haramattan 1.201134-2_PR_RM68004:36
dr_drshFixed!, this is caused by running drive-qml with the device in mass storage mode04:39
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* wmarone_ boggles at the expansys-usa prices for the N907:01
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ieatlintwmarone_: looks about right07:04
ieatlinti found an aussie store that was a little cheaper, but foreign currency fees would probably make the difference07:05
ieatlintfor thought though, ... $726.36AUD ($740USD) + around $45 shipping and likely a 3-4% foreign currency fee07:09
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mecewhat's the command for starting/stopping sshd?10:17
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mecetried /usr/invoke-rc.d ssh stop but that seems to have no effect on it.10:48
ieatlint/etc/init/ssh.conf is what causes it to start10:54
tabaskohmm, I would like to know this as well10:54
ieatlintthere might not be more to it than killing the process10:54
tabaskobtw, is it safe to change root's password?10:55
ieatlintyes, and highly encouraged10:55
ieatlintlest you want anyone ssh'ing into your phone as root10:55
tabaskogood, phone feels so dirty with default passwd10:55
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mecehehe indeed.10:59
meceanyway I need sshd open over 3g, which means I also want to shut it down when I don't use it...10:59
mecechanging the port might be a good idea tho.10:59
mecea bit of security by obscurity10:59
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Stskeepsssh is filtered over 3g afaik11:00
Stskeepssshd,  that is11:00
ieatlintregardless, many of us connect to wifi routinely11:00
ieatlinterr, i misread, need to have read up more first :)11:01
meceStskeeps, by who?11:01
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Stskeepsmece: by fefault setting11:01
meceStskeeps, yeah. I changed that tho.11:01
ieatlintyes, /etc/ssh/sshd_config is set to only allow connections from, and the iana internal network reserved ranges11:02
meceso killing the process does not help11:03
meceany other ideas?11:03
ieatlintwatchdog respawns it?11:04
meceno idea. something does11:04
ieatlintwell there's always the method of toggling developer mode on/off11:05
fralsmece: 'stop ssh'?11:05
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ieatlintlooks like frals knows what he's talking about, oddly11:06
mecefrals, wtf?11:06
ieatlint/sbin/stop, that is11:06
mecefrals, thanks :D11:07
fralsmece: np11:07
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mecefrals, got a good idea how I allow connection over 3g?11:09
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tabaskohow I can find out my ip? There is no ifconfig? :o11:10
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tabaskoyeah, should have triend to run find before asking stupid11:11
fralsmece: disable the iptables line in /etc/network/if-up.d/11:11
frals /etc/network/if-up.d/drop_gprs_to_sshd even11:11
fralsor just chmod -x the file, hopefully aegis doesnt protect it :D11:12
mecegah so i might brick the fracking thing by doing this?11:12
fralsdont modify the file11:13
fralscat /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist|grep drop_gprs11:13
fralsi wonder if aegis cares if the permissions change11:14
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fralsid try it, but im slightly ahead of public releases and first thing i do is disable that cra^H^H^Hnice aegis11:15
ieatlintthe internal releases let you disable aegis?11:16
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fralsits about the hardware11:17
ieatlintah, the internal devices allow it?11:17
fralssomething like that11:17
mecewell i did sh /etc/network/if-up.d/drop_gprs_to_sshd11:17
mecean nothing happened.11:17
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meceand I still can't login11:20
meceerm ok heh11:22
fralsmece: well if the rule is there already i guess you need to flush iptables11:22
frals... i guess that would be the aegis friendly way of doing it instead of messing with the drop_gprs script... assuming root is allowed to mess with iptables :(11:23
ieatlinti looked at that... couldn't get iptables to access the filter table11:23
ieatlintkept giving permissions errors11:23
* frals REALLY likes aegis... no, really....11:23
mecefrals, well doesn't the script actually do the opposite of what I wanted?11:23
ieatlintand aegis stops "root"11:23
fralsmece: yes, the script adds the rule, thats why i said modify it :)11:23
meceok that's not safe now is it.11:24
fralsmece: chmod -x the file so its not executed, but aegis might have say about that11:24
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mecehmm only port 22 tho. perhaps if I change the port of the server instead.11:24
fralsmece: or rename gprs0 to gprs1 ;o11:24
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ieatlintchanging port is probably safer :P11:25
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ieatlintand probably a better idea anyway11:25
meceport worked11:25
fralsyeah, just changing the port is probably easiest11:25
mece\o/ I'11:25
mecem in11:25
meceI think I'll post this in infodump thread11:26
ieatlintnow you can stalk whomever has that phone11:26
meceieatlint, um?11:28
fralsieatlint: assuming the ip doesnt change eh? ;)11:28
ieatlintit's how i keep my girl in line11:28
fralsi was actually planning to set up my n900 to always open a reverse tunnel to my server whenever it went online11:28
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fralsbut i had this feeling about powerconsumption... ;(11:29
ieatlintwell ssh itself doesn't have a keepalive11:29
ieatlintso in theory it wouldn't take any, but the connection may drop without either end knowing11:29
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petteriall those brute force attacs to hack your phone will kill the battery :)11:31
mecepetteri, well changing the port really helps that.11:34
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petteriif i look at my box I see that the hackers first map the ports and then attac the ssh port11:35
ieatlintassuming you connect from known ips, you might still want to modify the sshd_config to only allow connections from them11:35
ieatlintpetteri: that's true for targeted attacks11:35
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ieatlintsomeone monitoring ips for vulnerable hosts isn't going to waste time scanning all ports11:36
mecepetteri, well I had thousands of attacks on my box, and then I changed the port and I've had 0 attacks since then. 0. That's not many.11:36
ieatlintthey'll hit the known ones and move on11:36
mecethousands daily I mean.11:36
mecethat's 0 attacks in 4 months.11:36
petterisuft to one suspicous site with linux on the useragent and you will be lost11:36
petteribetter put public key auth to sshd if you are going to use ti11:37
mecewhat are we talking about?11:37
ieatlintshoes, i think11:37
mecei believe so.11:37
ieatlinti'm wearing black ones11:37
meceMine are black but have some white details11:37
djszapisorry, is this the harmattan channel ? :)11:37
meceyep. My shoes are good for the dry harmattan winds. How about yours?11:38
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meceoh my.11:38
ieatlintdunno, might get sand in mine11:38
mecechanging the port allows you to connect via 3g without messing about with the aegis protected script.11:39
meceand yes petteri, it's not completely safe, but then again nothing is. And I have sshd off unless I need to use it.11:40
petterii am just saying that you should not have root password ssh login on enabled in public internet11:41
meceI don't have that11:41
mecebut user can do devel-su so it's pretty much the same, security wise. Just a bit more obscurity.11:41
petteripublic key auth adds security, i would use that if i had to have the sshd running11:42
meceyeah I use that on my N900, but I haven't had time to set it up on N95011:42
mecePerhaps I should make a little app that stops/starts the sshd so I wouldn't have to go into xterm to do it.11:44
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DocScrutinizer[2011-10-18 09:17:53] <mece> what's the command for starting/stopping sshd?   [2011-10-18 02:12:11] <DocScrutinizer> start ssh12:39
DocScrutinizer[2011-10-18 09:59:38] <mece> anyway I need sshd open over 3g, which means I also want to shut it down when I don't use it...    [2011-10-18 02:18:04] <DocScrutinizer> grep AllowUser /etc/ssh/ssh_config12:40
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meceDocScrutinizer, there was also the script that drops calls to port 22 over gprs12:45
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meceDocScrutinizer, anyway I just changed the port to work past that.12:48
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* RST38h yawns, moos at the moon12:50
mecewhat's up RST38h?12:50
RST38hNot much Maemo related. Have to update my apps, will probably work on them this week12:51
* RST38h still wonders if he can use SPARQL QtComponent with the latest firmware update12:51
RST38hWould be nice to get file lists from the tracker db12:52
meceRST38h, is that prevented somehow?12:52
radiofreeRT38h : you mean the qml bindings?12:52
RST38hmece: in the first firmware version, loadig component failed due to missing parts12:53
RST38hradio: yes12:53
radiofreewhich version is in the new firmware update?12:54
radiofreehopefully you'll have 0.0.30 now12:54
radiofreethe 0.2.x releases have a brand new set of qml bindings, you'll be able to do things like "property SparqlConnection connection : SparqlConnection { ....} ", "connection.selectQuery(foo)" etc..12:55
radiofreebut if you have 0.0.30 you will be able to use the SparqlListModel {} now12:56
RST38hI need an example that would query SPQRQL for files of given mime type using SparqlListModel12:57
RST38hSo far, I have only seen one SparqlListModel example online12:57
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radiofreeRST38h: so what, like all images in a folder?13:01
radiofreeRST38h: I think it might be SparqlResultsList in the old version?13:02
radiofreeyes, 0.0.30 (or maybe it got fixed in 0.0.28, as long as you have that it should be ok) it's SparqlResultsList you want to use13:02
JaffaOooh, a good price:
RST38hradiofree: Look, there are so many versions and they change so fast and have so little documentation that I do not really want to know how it was called13:03
RST38hJust need an example13:03
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radiofreethere's not need to get tetchy, I'm just trying to nail down what you will/won't be able to do13:03
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RST38hThat I can compile and run with the dev firmware we have got in N950s13:04
radiofreewhat does apt-cache showpkg libqtsparql0 say?13:04
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RST38hradio; no idea, at work right now, away from the device13:04
RST38hbut will know tonight13:04
radiofreeyou could, for example, get all the paths for all files in /home/user/MyDocs/foo with something like13:04
radiofreeSELECT ?url WHERE { ?u a nfo:FileDataObject ; nie:url ?url . FILTER (fn:starts-with (?url, "file:///home/user/MyDocs/foo/")) }13:05
radiofreeif you wanted just the images, you could use ?u a nfo:Image instead13:05
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faenilgood morning guys! :)13:06
* RST38h writing down13:07
radiofreeso then in qml you would do model: SparqlResultsList { options: SparqlConnectionOptions { driverName: "QTRACKER_DIRECT" } query : "your query" }13:07
hiemanshufaenil: PM13:07
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faenilhiemanshu: where? XD13:07
RST38hradio: Actually got my own mime type (not image) how do I do that?13:07
radiofreeRT38h: then, in your delegate you could do Text : { text: "Path = " + url }13:07
radiofreeyou could filter on the nie#mimeType13:09
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RST38hradio: thanks!13:10
radiofreeprobably a useful command would be tracker-sparql -q "select * { <the uuid of the file> ?o ?p }", it will display the nie:mimeType there (along with everything else indexed about the file)13:10
radiofreei'll build a concrete example later (based on whatever version you have)13:12
radiofreedepending on the version you have, you might be able to use a QSparqlQueryModel and use setContextProperty. Which, if you want to do other queries with the connection, might be more useful13:14
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djszapimpr ping13:28
djszapican you paste the content of the ssu source file ?13:28
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snowpongit's possible to import contacts into the n9 via gmail account right?14:24
w00tcreate an mfe account, using server
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grispenap, so your qml ui and mtf code both start in landscape and you can rotate?14:54
spenapyes, I think I know what's the problem: somehow the central widget doesn't get the initial rotation state14:55
spenapso if you start it landscape, it is in the right orientation, and rotates as it should after that14:55
spenapbut, if you start in portrait mode, it is rotated 90ยบ, (although it "knows" that it's portrait14:55
spenapso further rotations seems to screw it14:56
griyes, that's what I've seen14:56
grimy app took 50% of the screen14:56
spenapthen it probably works fine in the other orientation14:56
spenapI will investigate it, but I think I know how to fix it14:56
griwhat worked was to set the mtf window to landscape and leave the qml as it was - but then the virtual keyboard will appear in landscape if your gui is portrait :D14:57
spenapyeah, what we need to do is to forward the orientation event to the centralwidget, I'd say14:58
spenapI'm trying it14:58
grialso it did not help me with my reparenting problem of the contacts-chooser - the behavior is still the same. Appearing works fine, closing results in seeing the switcher instead of the application again14:58
griwonder what's the right way ? for selecting contacts with harmattan ui14:59
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snowpongw00t: thanks15:01
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snowponganother thing, is the MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN define still not in any Qt SDK releases and we need to do the extra .pro file hacks to define it?15:02
Hq`it works with the latest sdk, just include "qplatformdefs.h"15:04
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snowpongHq`: excellent, thanks15:08
CepiPerezhello all15:09
Hq`has anyone successfully used QFeedbackEffect::playThemeEffect ?15:12
Hq`nothing seems to happen...15:12
Hq`(on N9)15:13
MilhouseCompletely OT - sorry for that - but this is quite amazing! :)15:15
StskeepsMilhouse: hoverboard time!15:16
MilhouseIndeed, me WANT! :)15:17
meceMilhouse, :) pretty cool15:18
meceyou need some good warm shoes... :D15:18
Milhousepretty cool? PRETTY cool?! :)15:18
Milhousetough crowd!15:18
mecewell it was not exactly news15:18
Milhouseas demonstrations go of superconductivity, it's not bad15:19
mecebut this is a really good demonsration15:19
Stskeepsmore interestingily is if you can measure the weight of the disc on top15:20
Stskeepsi'm thinking moving boxes..15:20
meceI want stuff superconducting while warm.15:21
mecethen I'll be amazed15:21
MilhouseI think they're getting there - the fact they're touching that disc without gloves suggests it's not that cold15:22
Milhousewhat's on top, dry ice?15:22
meceWhat do I say when people ask what Nemo is?15:23
Stskeepsmece: prolly wrong channel15:23
meceyes oops15:24
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meceI'm having a hard time finding basic notification example (Notifications as in vibration, getting that little green flag up there and adding stuff to the feed view). What is that thing even called?16:22
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hiemanshumece: MNotifications16:23
mecehiemanshu, ah, no Qt class for that huh?16:24
hiemanshunope, its either that, or using DBus calls to add to event feed16:24
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meceOh well, I'm satisfied with MNotifications I suppose. Thanks :)16:24
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mecehiemanshu, do you know any open source apps that use notifications, that I could look at as an example?16:34
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hiemanshumece: the WidgetGallery does it16:35
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sivangcan harmattan play ogg , does anybody know?16:42
DocScrutinizeriirc it's in the product specs, yes16:43
sivangcool, thanks16:43
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Corsacand can it do gapless playback?16:49
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hiemanshuIIRC yes16:51
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snowpongany hdmi output for n9 or n950? does it support MHL cables or something?17:18
leinirno hdmi output, unfortunately... only the old rgb thing (just use the cable from your n900)17:21
rantomCan I just use "restore device" and "clean device" from the N950?17:23
rantomOr should I rather flash it with Beta2 fw?17:23
snowpongleinir: ok thanks17:30
Arkenoihmm, n9 found by local bt search.. wonder who bought it in our office17:38
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Khertan_n950Hi !18:52
Khertan_n950Someone know if there is a bug related to position fixed and harmattan browser ?18:52
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Khertan_n950i can t understand why my toolbar did nt stay on the bottom when scrolling18:52
Khertan_n950 click on settings button and you ll see what i mean18:53
Khertan_n950(this works on other browser (also fennec))18:53
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radiofreeKhertan_n950: I don't know about that specific problem, but on firefox the bottom of the note can be hidden by the toolbar18:56
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Khertan_n950radiofree: yeah i see that too ...19:01
Khertan_n950radiofree, thx19:01
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Khertan_n950i really need to found a way which works on all browser to put that toolbar19:03
Khertan_n950it s a pain to made things working everywhere19:03
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* Arkenoi got similar IM database corruption problems like i encountered on n900 :-(19:13
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VelmontHrmf. I've used 2 days. Still can't figure out how to unlock my N9. I have the code, I just can't input it because I'm not able to type "w" on the keypa.d19:47
VelmontDo anyone know how to do that?19:47
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freemangordonStskeeps ping19:48
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LilltigerVelmont: no "w", what kinda N9 is that.. dont you have qwerty?20:02
fralsVelmont: unlock what exactly?20:02
fralsah, right, in the dialer i guess20:04
Stskeepsfreemangordon: pong20:05
freemangordonStskeeps hi20:11
freemangordonneed a little help :D20:11
Velmontfrals, Lilltiger: Yup, in the dialer.20:11
freemangordonAny chance you to help with getting gst-dsp source code (the one in Harmattan)20:12
freemangordonFelipe Contreras is the author20:12
VelmontEveryone says, start the N9 without sim-card, it will ask you if you want to start it without SIM-card (IT DOESN'T, it just starts anyway). -- Then they say, write in #pw+12341234+#  --- but no, there's no way to input that. And in the normal dialer, I can't input "w".20:12
griVelmont, I can't even enter chars with the hardware keyboard of the n95020:12
VelmontI even tried copy/pasting #pw+ in, but it's only #p+ when I do it.20:12
VelmontTelenor fooled me. They gave me the unlock code, but it's of no use if I can't input it :P20:13
griwhat's the unlock code for?20:14
fralsVelmont: you could try emailing tel:#pw+12341234# to yourself and hope fenix gives you a quicklink to it20:14
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fralsVelmont: or adding a contact with that number20:15
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fralsok contact approach didnt work20:15
Velmontgri: It's a SIM-lock.20:15
Velmontgri: I can only use Telenor SIM-cards in the phone. But I've got an unlock code so that I can use another operator for it.20:16
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griah ok, didn't know the n9 can be sim-locked20:16
fralsVelmont: uh, are you sure it is actually sim-locked atm? i.e. did you try with another sim?20:17
Velmontfrals: Yup. Many times. :-)20:17
VelmontI thought that might trigger a "do you want to try to unlock it" feature, but alas, no.20:17
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fralsguess you tried it without the w as well20:19
VelmontYep. :-) And I didn't really try for 2 days, but I have had the code for a full 24 hours and *still* haven't been able to crack the code.20:21
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tommaVelmont, have you tried calling with some other way than dialer?20:24
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fralsVelmont: send a email to yourself with the string: tel:#pw+12341234#20:28
* w00t facepalms20:29
Velmontfrals: I'll try but I don't think it'll work because it obviously seems to sanitize its input very well.20:36
fralsVelmont: worked here20:37
Velmontfrals: OK, worth a shot. As long as I don't lock it forever :p20:37
fralsworked here as in it would start the call to a number containing 'w'20:38
* lardman looks at pretty primary and secondary colours, and while only cursing anchors a little, feels reasonably happy20:38
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Stskeepsfreemangordon: it is oss, google for it20:41
Velmontfrals: Nops, the email client hilight:     tel:#pw{+12341234}+4#20:42
fralsVelmont: and pressing on it doesnt work to launch a contact card?20:42
Velmontfrals: Yes it does, but with +12341234 as phone number.20:43
VelmontSo none of the control codes.20:43
freemangordonStskeeps - the code which is available on internet is not the same as in Harmattan20:43
fralswell that sucks20:43
lardmanQML text or label or whatever, is it possible to rotate text?20:43
fralsgood news is it sucks less in PR1.1 i guess... since i get everything including tel: highlighted20:44
Velmontfrals: Hehe. -- I've also sent an email asking, but they've always 2-5 days turnaround time on that... :-)20:44
Velmontfrals: PR1.1 is what? I'm running 1.0?20:44
Stskeepsfreemangordon: how can you tell?20:44
freemangordonbecause of the package version20:45
fralsVelmont: next update, i assume.. and yes, if you dont work at nokia id say you use 1.020:45
Stskeepsfreemangordon: what version harmattan has?20:45
VelmontI work at Opera Software, so I've got a unreleased build of that on it, -- but no, it doesn't help me much :)20:46
Stskeepsfreemangordon: and what is out in public?20:47
freemangordonlots of stuff, but not that20:48
Stskeepsno, the version20:48
freemangordonbesides the one on google code20:48
Stskeepsask me in 25 mins20:48
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freemangordonand maemo version, which is an year old20:49
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fralsVelmont: you could try going to settings -> device -> sim-card or smth like that, but im not sure if it works20:54
Velmontfrals: Have tried that as well ;-)20:55
fralsi queried you btw, in case you missed it20:55
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Stskeepsfreemangordon: the -6 part is packaging21:02
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tommaVelmont, try qdbus /Call Com.Nokia.Telephony.CallUi.Call "" "#pw+12341234#"21:08
tommai have no idea if that works...21:08
fralstomma: it doesnt, i tried :<21:08
fralsor actually, i tried qdbus /callhistory com.noki21:09
fralsa.telephony.callhistory.dialer #pw+12341234#21:09
fralsgetting access denied by dbus to .call-ui thou ;)21:09
tommaok seems like that my line gives some weird error notification =)21:09
fralsah yeah works from develsh... "Call disconnected"21:10
freemangordonStskeeps that is the same as on google code, but that is not what is in Harmattan, just trust me on that. Harmattan gst-dsp has HD codecs support, while that does not.21:11
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tommafrals, looks like your line does open dialer fine but filter that "w" out =)21:12
Stskeepsfreemangordon: /me goes check21:13
Stskeepsfreemangordon: send felipe an email and ask what the situation is21:17
freemangordon_both me and pali already done that nearly a month ago, no anser21:19
Stskeepsooh, my provider has nokia n921:20
freemangordon_:-D for your wife ?21:21
Stskeepsno, for myself, i don't own a n921:21
Stskeepsand n950 isn't working for me as a daily telephone21:21
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freemangordon_aah ok.21:21
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lardmanStskeeps: why's it not working?21:49
lardmanand why would the N9 be better?21:49
Stskeepswhy what not?21:51
Stskeepslardman: oh - the signal issues21:51
lardmanoh, poor signal strenght?21:51
Stskeepslardman: i'm getting so bad reception on n950 that it's unusable for me as the primary function is to be usable when i'm elsewhere in poland, as well as constantly dropping out21:51
Stskeepsie, it's managed to cure me of irc addiction while mobile and that's a bad sign21:51
lardmanhmm, mine is pretty poor, but I just assumed that was the network being bad21:52
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lardmanI'd only ever be using much mobile stuff sat on the west coast train line up to Birmingham, and that has chronic Vodafone coverage anyway21:52
* lardman goes back to his QML feeling vaguely pleased at the pretty colours21:54
lardmanshame I have to get rid of those for the final ui ;)21:54
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lardmannevertheless, it's nice to be back writing the C++ backend :)21:58
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merlin1991tbh n9 feels like it gets better reception than n900, at least for me22:26
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rafael2k_hi there people, my N950 arrived!!!22:26
rafael2k_; ))22:26
merlin1991rafael2k_: welcome to the club :) (wich I'm not part of)22:27
rafael2k_let me ask you one thing, how to install the toolchain in the cellphone itself?22:27
rafael2k_I don't like to cross compile things22:27
rafael2k_; )22:27
rafael2k_merlin1991: SpeedEvil: thanks!22:27
* artemma starts getting the feeling that N950s just weren't verified real hard at the factory production line - so many quite different impressions about its GPS, GSM, etc22:28
rafael2k_in my N900 it was just a matter of add the repos and voila22:28
Stskeepsartemma: i simply think there wasn't a lot of tuning22:28
artemmarafael2k_: congrats!22:28
rafael2k_; )22:29
artemmaStskeeps: it looks like people are having different hardware issues, not the same. I hope not every single device is fine tuned at the end of the factory line :)22:29
rafael2k_any news on FM listening people?22:30
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lardmanI was just wondering about FM reception the other day22:46
rafael2k_I could write a software, but I need to know how to do the low level FM capture22:47
lardmanI've got a vertical QML ListView in a rectangle at the bottom of my screen and when I scroll it up it moves into the neighbouring rectangle; any ways to avoid this?22:47
lardmanrafael2k_: is there a kernel driver for the hw?22:48
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lardmancheck dmesg22:48
lardmanthen it should just be a case of looking to see what the kernel driver expects and opening the appropriate dev file22:48
rafael2k_lardman: I hope so, I read sometime ago of problems with the driver22:49
rafael2k_But I wasn't with the N950 to test..22:50
lardmaninteresting, I've not had any time to mess about with listening to the radio, but was thinking about it yesterday while doing some soldering listening to music22:51
lardmanwe were talking about the Tab yesterday, the N950 certainly has it beaten in quality of A2DP/SBC Bluetooth stereo audio22:52
* lardman takes a look22:52
lardmanlooks like quite a bit of work has been done there22:55
rafael2k_btw, if someone finds a way to install the toolchain in the harmattan itself, let me know22:55
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lardmanI would say talk to lcuk, he was always very keen to build on device... :(22:56
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* Arkenoi gets damn poor reception as well23:22
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