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| npm | artemma: is there a way of cc'ing a local copy of an email message to oneself, or a place where drafts are automatically saved (e.g. "fcc' feature folder carbon copy in some better mailers) | 00:06 |
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| npm | i'm wondering cuz i use the platform emailer to send mail, and if i knew of a cc address, I could add that to the launch url | 00:06 |
| npm | send mail by voice that is :-) | 00:07 |
| artemma | npm: even if cc works this way, it would only help if mail is actually starts being sent :) | 00:07 |
| npm | ( http://nielsmayer.com/voicetogoog/voicetogoog-menu-view-3.png ) | 00:07 |
| artemma | I lost two mails already this way | 00:07 |
| artemma | once in Beta 1, once in Beta 2 | 00:07 |
| artemma | just "error" and everything typed disappears | 00:07 |
| artemma | you can of course manually save to drafts once in a while, but it needs going out of the mail editor | 00:08 |
| npm | heh nothing like posting to the interwebs to help you notice one of your icons (in unreleased software) is not transparent :-) | 00:08 |
| npm | doh | 00:08 |
| npm | suck icon anywayhs | 00:09 |
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| sivang | hi all | 02:21 |
| sivang | I am trying to make a project in QtCreator deploy/test to the N950 | 02:21 |
| sivang | but the only target I can add is "Rmote Complite" | 02:22 |
| sivang | err | 02:22 |
| sivang | "Remote Compiler" - does anybody know hwo to take creato out of this odd state? | 02:22 |
| sivang | :) | 02:22 |
| ieatlint | your toolchains be screwed | 02:25 |
| ieatlint | did it used to work? | 02:25 |
| sivang | ieatlint: yeah, I tried to upgrade last time though | 02:28 |
| sivang | ieatlint: and I think I stopped it in the middle | 02:28 |
| sivang | ieatlint: that was my suspiction but I hoped maybe it was something less deterministic ;) | 02:28 |
| * sivang wonders if there's a bug in the SDK installer/ maintainance tool | 02:28 | |
| sivang | that is, if it is reported. | 02:28 |
| ieatlint | it is unwise to stop it :) | 02:29 |
| ieatlint | i suggest either scrapping your sdk folder entirely and starting over, or loading up the update/maintainance toold again and uninstalling/reinstalling stuff | 02:29 |
| sivang | ieatlint: I had to... bad bad bad Israeli internet has something against downloading from UK/EU sites | 02:30 |
| sivang | ieatlint: I'd like to try and avoid the network access | 02:30 |
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| sivang | well, downloading from anywhere != .IL | 02:30 |
| sivang | ;) | 02:30 |
| ieatlint | good luck | 02:30 |
| sivang | lol | 02:30 |
| sivang | ieatlint: sounds like I'd need it :-p | 02:31 |
| ieatlint | if your toolchains are intact, take a look at the preferences in qtcreator | 02:31 |
| sivang | ieatlint: okay, jsut to make sure am looking at the right palce, where do I look? | 02:31 |
| ieatlint | but my guess is, if qtcreator can't see it, it's not there | 02:31 |
| ieatlint | tools -> options | 02:32 |
| ieatlint | there are then two tabs, one labelled toolchains, the other qt4 | 02:32 |
| ieatlint | your harmattan toolchain/libs will be in Madde/targets/ | 02:33 |
| ieatlint | if there's not valid stuff in that dir, give up | 02:33 |
| sivang | ieatlint: seems right, http://t.co/Rf7i4S1H | 02:36 |
| ieatlint | yeah, but make sure the maemo 6 toolchain is there, and that in the view where that screenshot was taken, you highlight the harmattan qt4, then select the "details" button in bottom-right, and verify the selected toolchain is maemo6 | 02:38 |
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| sivang | ieatlint: maemo 6? | 02:47 |
| * sivang tries | 02:47 | |
| ieatlint | maemo6 == harmattan | 02:47 |
| sivang | so look for harmattan? | 02:47 |
| sivang | I would think it'd be odd to have the mameo6 string in the naming or the folder names | 02:47 |
| sivang | ah yes | 02:48 |
| sivang | funny | 02:48 |
| ieatlint | well, the sdk here has the build toolchain labelled maemo6 and the libs labelled harmattan | 02:48 |
| sivang | Tool chain "Maemo 6 GCC" from the Madde dir , e.g. the sysroot dir | 02:48 |
| ieatlint | oh nice, there's an online backup service with an n900 client | 02:58 |
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| * ieatlint wonders if it'd work on the n950 | 02:59 | |
| sivang | ieatlint: I made it work somehow, I had to create a new project, something is screwed in the twitter example project | 03:01 |
| sivang | ieatlint: I am thinking of killing the .pro file and starting fresh | 03:01 |
| sivang | there are quite soem rough spots with latest version of creator | 03:02 |
| sivang | need to report bug, reproduce | 03:02 |
| ieatlint | uh, kill the pro.user | 03:03 |
| ieatlint | but what that means is you just needed to add a new target | 03:03 |
| ieatlint | load proejct in qtcreator, click on projects tab, click on the + symbol at the top next to "Remote Compiler" (or similar) | 03:04 |
| sivang | ieatlint: I did that in that project, it only gave me to add "remote compiler" | 03:05 |
| sivang | ieatlint: so perhaps there's a bug there.. | 03:05 |
| sivang | ieatlint: because I just built an example harmattan qt comp prject and tested it on the N950 | 03:05 |
| ieatlint | did you have to fix your toolchain/qt4 lib entries? | 03:05 |
| sivang | ieatlint: no, I did a rebuild of the qml toolchain, or the "qml helpers" | 03:06 |
| sivang | well, no a rebuild, they were not built | 03:06 |
| * ieatlint shrugs | 03:06 | |
| sivang | but entries said "not needed". | 03:06 |
| ieatlint | whatever, if you have it working, congrats | 03:06 |
| sivang | brokenTexSubImage <- what's that? | 03:06 |
| sivang | MeegoGraphics ? :) | 03:07 |
| * sivang lols at the console output | 03:07 | |
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| sivang | ieatlint: killed the .user file | 03:09 |
| sivang | ieatlint: retrying, although the qmlproject files holds nothing but obvious things like including . and friends | 03:09 |
| * sivang thinks this is an artifact of shado building or something | 03:11 | |
| ieatlint | wait, it's a .qmlproj? | 03:11 |
| ieatlint | because that's not deployable.. | 03:12 |
| sivang | yep and only that, in the Examples/4.7/Demos/Declerative/twitter there's the rest of stuff | 03:12 |
| sivang | e.g. not just the qmlproject file | 03:12 |
| sivang | so i killled the .user file, reopened the project same issue | 03:13 |
| ieatlint | it doesn't list anything but remote compiler when you open the .pro? | 03:13 |
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| sivang | ieatlint: yes | 03:14 |
| sivang | ieatlint: and it happens with other several projects as well | 03:15 |
| ieatlint | and just to confirm, you're opening a .pro and not a .qmlproject file? | 03:15 |
| sivang | that is what I seem to be doing | 03:15 |
| * sivang makes sure | 03:15 | |
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| sivang | ieatlint: hmm, no seems I opened jsut a qmlproject | 03:16 |
| sivang | ieatlint: odd, I opened it from the Demos from the welcome screen | 03:17 |
| sivang | I'ms tarting to get the picutre | 03:18 |
| ieatlint | yeah, the demos are rather poorly maintained, which is kinda ironic | 03:18 |
| sivang | I must submit bugs, there are some low hanging fruits for me when open gov is launched :) | 03:19 |
| sivang | ieatlint: so there's a pro file, a proper one, but only in the demos under the qt dir | 03:19 |
| sivang | ieatlint: now I see that the welcome screen takes its demos from another demo dir | 03:19 |
| sivang | is this shadow building? | 03:19 |
| ieatlint | unlikely | 03:19 |
| sivang | ieatlint: there, there's only one pro for *all* of the demos | 03:19 |
| ieatlint | kinda | 03:20 |
| ieatlint | the main one is a subdirs type | 03:20 |
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| sivang | ieatlint: you mean, a qml type? | 03:20 |
| ieatlint | and there are project files for each sub project, which can be loaded independently most of the time | 03:20 |
| sivang | ieatlint: exactly | 03:20 |
| ieatlint | but as i recall, for some, a parent project file sets include paths and similar | 03:20 |
| sivang | ieatlint: this was not the case a couple of updates ago | 03:20 |
| * ieatlint shrugs | 03:21 | |
| sivang | ieatlint: e.g. declerative demos were taken straight from the qt distro dir | 03:21 |
| sivang | and not copied out | 03:21 |
| ieatlint | i still love how many use "import Qt 4.7" | 03:22 |
| sivang | ieatlint: instead of QtQuick 1.0? | 03:23 |
| ieatlint | qtquick of any version, yeah | 03:23 |
| sivang | or wait, the Qt namespace is now built in or are these unrelated? | 03:24 |
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| sivang | ieatlint: I'm not complaining, this is still amoving target | 03:24 |
| sivang | ieatlint: plus it is much more than I ever got for an SDK from any other company, for free :) | 03:24 |
| sivang | oh, and I do not need to sue Eclipse | 03:25 |
| sivang | :-p | 03:25 |
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| ieatlint | yeah, well, use it enough and you'll get this special hatred of it all | 03:26 |
| sivang | I won't, I came from Delphi, VB, Eclipse, gedit vim and some very bad IDEs attempted for Python (excluding Komodo) , I love the creator for waht it lets you do | 03:28 |
| sivang | gps simulations rock | 03:28 |
| sivang | but the demos/examples thingo needs fixing, | 03:28 |
| sivang | for sure. | 03:28 |
| sivang | ieatlint: also, it is best to let a newb install and start playing with c++ on his new linux box without having to worry about deps etc | 03:29 |
| ieatlint | yeah... | 03:34 |
| ieatlint | but the whole thing seems a tad hacked together at times | 03:34 |
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| sivang | ieatlint: I fixed it, just copied the original demo (that's is ready with the qmlviewer) to a new fresh dir and playgroudn there | 03:42 |
| sivang | ieatlint: since those examples do not require C++ , they made them ready for the qmlviewer in built into creator | 03:43 |
| * sivang thinks of asking to have voth options, deployable and just qml | 03:43 | |
| sivang | in a feature/ bug request | 03:43 |
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| iekku | morning | 08:00 |
| dm8tbr | mrng | 08:15 |
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| kirma | is there a way/application to enable automatic updates of location in availability for n9? it worked on n900, but apparently not in n9 (?) | 09:04 |
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| dm8tbr | availability? | 09:05 |
| dm8tbr | ay you mean in that drop-down? doesn't that have a location tickbox? | 09:06 |
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| kirma | it has a location tick-box, but it also has "update" button | 09:09 |
| kirma | maybe it was just lazy and I concluded that it's not automatic update | 09:10 |
| kirma | but when I untick the box, the update button is still available | 09:10 |
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| dm8tbr | that might be because of the free text field right above it? | 09:23 |
| dm8tbr | also for added fun tap the 'add location' text _itself_ (not the tick-box) | 09:24 |
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| kirma | dm8tbr: is this in line with UX guidelines? I wouldn't have ever figured out that the resolution of location would be selectable by tapping *that* | 09:29 |
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| Stskeeps | w00t | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | er :P | 09:30 |
| * w00t eyes Stskeeps | 09:31 | |
| Stskeeps | yes, i forgot the /g | 09:31 |
| dm8tbr | kirma: yah, bit weird, found it by accident, lost it for a couple of weeks, wondered where the f* it was, found it by accident... | 09:33 |
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| thp | is there a variable in QML that tells me if I'm currently in portrait or landscape mode? | 10:55 |
| thp | (apart from comparing width and height of the current page, that is) | 10:56 |
| ieatlint | yes | 10:57 |
| thp | and where is is/how is it called? can't find anything in {PageStackWindow,Page,PageStack,platformWindow} | 10:58 |
| ieatlint | trying to find it again, one sec | 10:58 |
| ieatlint | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Platform_Guide/Application_development_framework/Application_lifecycle_with_Harmattan_Platform_SDK is not what you want, but distantly related and also semi-difficult to find | 10:58 |
| ieatlint | ah, here http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Best_practices_for_application_development_Controlling_rotation.html | 10:59 |
| ieatlint | note the "screen.currentOrientation == Screen.Portrait" example code | 11:00 |
| thp | ieatlint: thanks a lot :) | 11:00 |
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| ieatlint | also, PageStackWindow has the signals onOrientationChangeAboutToStart, Finished and Started | 11:01 |
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| ieatlint | PageStackWindow also inherits Window which has the boolean read-only value inPortrait (eg, in PageStackWindow onOrientationChangeFinished: { if( inPortrait ) console.log( "Portrait" ) else console.log( "Landscape" ) } | 11:04 |
| thp | oh, just saw that - thanks. pagestackwindow inherits from window | 11:05 |
| ameng | hi , does n9 have a developer community? | 11:05 |
| ieatlint | no, we shun n9 developers and encourage them to adopt apple products | 11:05 |
| matrixx | hehe | 11:06 |
| ameng | =-O | 11:06 |
| matrixx | ameng: welcome :) | 11:06 |
| mece | ieatlint, LOL | 11:06 |
| ameng | I just got a n9. it is so sad if there is no developer community for it.. | 11:07 |
| matrixx | ameng: there is, ieatlint is just kidding :P | 11:07 |
| matrixx | us :) | 11:07 |
| ieatlint | have you tried a nice iphone? there's a new one out | 11:07 |
| ameng | matrixx:could you please point me to the link? | 11:07 |
| mece | ieatlint, sometimes sarcasm doesn't translate over text and language barriers... | 11:07 |
| matrixx | ieatlint: stop trolling at this second! :P | 11:07 |
| ieatlint | fine. :P | 11:08 |
| thp | ameng: maemo.org and meego.com, depending on who you ask | 11:08 |
| thp | ameng: also, developer.nokia.com has some resources | 11:08 |
| ieatlint | harmattan-dev.nokia.com is better actually | 11:08 |
| thp | (..on whom you ask..?) | 11:08 |
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| thp | yes, harmattan-dev.n.c is also important as a resource, but it's not really a community | 11:09 |
| ieatlint | on who is correct i believe | 11:09 |
| mece | ameng, both ^^ work, meego.com is more developers and maemo.org is more users and trolls. Both can be helpful :) | 11:09 |
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| matrixx | I like irc and mailing lists more over forums | 11:09 |
| mece | ameng, meego.com has the most up-to-date technical discussions, and the mailinglists you want are there too. | 11:10 |
| ameng | thanks. will try them :) | 11:10 |
| mece | ameng, also check out the future home of the open source apps: http://apps.formeego.com | 11:11 |
| ieatlint | i'm almost at release version 1 of my application for the n9/50, woo | 11:13 |
| matrixx | ieatlint: congrats | 11:13 |
| ieatlint | yeah, an application that's only useful in north america | 11:14 |
| ieatlint | and only specific cities | 11:14 |
| ieatlint | a bus tracker | 11:14 |
| matrixx | wow, I wish we could have a good app for that in Finland | 11:15 |
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| ieatlint | well, i had the advantage of a company here in the US that contracts out to transit agencies to provide live vehicle tracking | 11:16 |
| ieatlint | they put a gps transponder on each vehicle that reports its location every ~30s | 11:16 |
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| ieatlint | and an open api | 11:16 |
| special | ieatlint: which cities? | 11:16 |
| ieatlint | covers many cities in the US and a couple in canada | 11:16 |
| ieatlint | special: i don't have a number to hand out... any city that uses nextbus can theoretically work | 11:17 |
| matrixx | ieatlint: I think we have similar system, but no open api yet | 11:17 |
| ieatlint | my target has been where i live, which is san francisco, oakland and oakland's surrounding cities | 11:18 |
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| ieatlint | but it supports boston, and montreal i believe, and somewhere between 15 and 70 additional | 11:18 |
| special | ah, damn, not for me | 11:18 |
| ieatlint | theoretically any on this list http://www.nextbus.com/wireless/miniRegion.shtml | 11:18 |
| ieatlint | my aim will be to support them all, but it's up to the local agency to let it be an open api, and only about 20% of them have -- the other 80% have an api, but you have to skirt a TOS in order to use it | 11:19 |
| ieatlint | if you happen to be in a city that has an open api, i can easily give you a build that will work. my only hangup right now is that switching between agencies doesn't work without a reboot, which i'll have fixed soon | 11:21 |
| special | mine has been promising an API for awhile now, they haven't pulled it off yet | 11:21 |
| ieatlint | where's that? | 11:21 |
| special | salt lake city, utah | 11:22 |
| ieatlint | ah, the sober state | 11:22 |
| special | haha | 11:22 |
| ieatlint | nope, looks like no support there :P | 11:22 |
| special | that's why I don't just say "utah". | 11:22 |
| ieatlint | fair enough, SLC is its own thing | 11:22 |
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| snowpong | Anyone know which field Nokia Store reads the "Version (read-only)" part from a .deb package? If I do dpkg-deb -I I get version: 1.1.1, but Nokia claism it's 1.1.0 - and the only place I mention 1.1.0 is in the changelog | 11:25 |
| snowpong | s/claism/claims/g | 11:25 |
| infobot | snowpong meant: Anyone know which field Nokia Store reads the "Version (read-only)" part from a .deb package? If I do dpkg-deb -I I get version: 1.1.1, but Nokia claims it's 1.1.0 - and the only place I mention 1.1.0 is in the changelog | 11:25 |
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| special | is 1.1.0 the latest valid entry in the changelog? | 11:26 |
| matrixx | snowpong: at least for me it took very long time before it really updated the package version | 11:26 |
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| matrixx | like a few days | 11:27 |
| matrixx | that happened when I updated existing package.. not with new package | 11:27 |
| snowpong | matrixx: aha, so it's lying - I did read something about "Version number will be updated once submitted to QA" | 11:27 |
| snowpong | matrixx: ok, this is an update though | 11:28 |
| snowpong | special: no, the latest entry is 1.1.1 | 11:28 |
| matrixx | I'm not sure if there's something happening only manually, or where's the lag, but anyway it might take a while | 11:28 |
| special | I've had issues before on standard debian with slightly malformed changelog entries; but the nokia store being slow sounds a lot more likely. | 11:29 |
| snowpong | special: to be precise, the topmost entry is 1.1.1 and below that it's 1.1.0 | 11:29 |
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| snowpong | matrixx: ok | 11:33 |
| snowpong | special: I do see a missing extra newline that might be a problem in the changelog, but then the changelog parser or whatever it is is really poor :| | 11:33 |
| snowpong | anyone know how to print out the changelog of a deb? | 11:34 |
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| special | I think my problem was caused by not having enough spaces preceding the text of the changelog | 11:34 |
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| snowpong | special: and how did the problem manifest itself? I mean the .deb installs, and in the "manage applications" list it's listed with the right version | 11:36 |
| matrixx | of course it is possible that my changelog entry was faulty and someone corrected the info manually a few days later :P | 11:36 |
| matrixx | but also it was read perfectly fine in "manage applications" as well :) | 11:36 |
| special | this was awhile ago, and not on harmattan. I believe in that case it generated the package with the wrong version entirely. | 11:37 |
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| Kleggas | anyone else having n9 and noticed we are "blocked out" from operations even in root? like any promiscuous network scanning (nmap or homewritten code etc) which I can understand as you shouldn't do that kinda stuff, but even running nasm (installed maemo freemantle 1.3 deb file). Probably more things? | 12:46 |
| dm8tbr | no shit sherlock | 12:47 |
| Kleggas | :) | 12:48 |
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| Kleggas | so its not just me then :p | 12:48 |
| Hq` | yes it's well known that aegis won't let you do stuff | 12:48 |
| dm8tbr | ~aegis | 12:48 |
| infobot | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif | 12:48 |
| dm8tbr | Kleggas: generally you don't want to run stuff as root, rather as user | 12:48 |
| Kleggas | well, didn't test nasm in user as I sshed into as root. but one would think I wont be able to run nasm anyway even as user :) | 12:49 |
| Kleggas | but havent tried | 12:50 |
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| Kleggas | perfect, nasm runs in user mode. thanks, as usual it was so simple :p | 12:52 |
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| sixtus42 | Hi, I am still stuck with /tmp being to small and root unable to move it away or resize it. Anybody got an idea how to do that? The app I am trying to run ignores $TMPDIR :-/ | 13:22 |
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| djszapi | Hi! Is it possible to get the call duration somehow on Harmattan ? | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | libcommhistory? | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps | 13:34 |
| djszapi | I am primarily interested in Ui interface like on any other old phones. | 13:35 |
| djszapi | ahh found, long tap on the dedicated call. | 13:36 |
| djszapi | and there is something in the menu | 13:36 |
| djszapi | how intuitive workflow ... that is another question. | 13:38 |
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| sixtus42 | djszapi: hi! any new idea on my /tmp problem? | 13:47 |
| djszapi | sorry, no. | 13:47 |
| djszapi | I am terribly busy with everything | 13:47 |
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| djszapi | sixtus42: I will get back to you at some point in the upcoming days. Currently busy with abstracts for the meego conference.. | 14:25 |
| djszapi | fruct conference* | 14:25 |
| neal | what meego conference? | 14:25 |
| dm8tbr | there is still going to be any public event about meego? | 14:25 |
| macmaN | SpeedEvil: what is the issue with microsim adapters vs n950 | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | don't use them | 14:26 |
| dm8tbr | unless you feel like replacing a SMT sim holder yourself :) | 14:26 |
| macmaN | ok. just wondering, actually was thinking about using an adapter to fit microsim into an older nokia | 14:27 |
| macmaN | *gasp*.. Symbian FP1 device | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | all slot-in holders are problematic with adapters | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | similar to "don't use mini-CD in slot-in CD drives" | 14:28 |
| macmaN | mhm kthx | 14:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | in case of sim hooldes the contact springs lock to any hole or edge on the SIM's surface | 14:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | to remove you need to insert a *thin* but rigid plastic latch above contact surface of SIM, to unlock the contact springs | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | you usually don't want to do that even once | 14:34 |
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| djszapi | sixtus42: you are hardcoding "/tmp" in your program ? Could you please use TMPVAR in your program, getting it by "getenv" for instance because tmp basically points there by default. | 14:43 |
| djszapi | and /var/tmp is laid down on root fs, so you would have that 2.1 GB free space. | 14:44 |
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| merlin__ | is there any way to paste into the term on the device? | 14:54 |
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| dm8tbr | merlin__: I'm also for C&P support. I hear the author accepts patches and the source is public. | 14:57 |
| mpr | so how do I install native gcc etc. on n9 without compiling everything myself, is there an apt repository similar to maemo extras-devel? | 14:58 |
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| kimju | https://gitorious.org/meego-terminal/meego-terminal/commits/master | 15:09 |
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| djszapi | mpr: use the official nokia repository | 15:35 |
| djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/g/gcc-4.4/ | 15:36 |
| mpr | ah | 15:36 |
| mpr | thanks | 15:36 |
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| mpr | that tries to pull libgmp3c2 from downloads.maemo.nokia.com which returns 404 :/ | 16:02 |
| mpr | it does get binutils from the same address with no problems | 16:02 |
| djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/g/gmp/ | 16:03 |
| djszapi | faenil: o/ | 16:03 |
| faenil | hey djszapi :) | 16:04 |
| faenil | trying to implement ray picking, got some free time? :D | 16:04 |
| djszapi | actually busier than ever :) | 16:04 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 16:04 |
| mpr | wonder why it tries to use downloads.maemo.nokia.com for that one, should I disable the sources in aegis.ssu-keyring-001.list? | 16:05 |
| djszapi | mpr: no you should have both | 16:05 |
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| djszapi | deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free | 16:05 |
| mpr | yeah, I have that | 16:06 |
| djszapi | should work oob. | 16:07 |
| djszapi | could you please the output failing ? | 16:07 |
| djszapi | pasye* | 16:07 |
| djszapi | that... | 16:07 |
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| mpr | http://pastebin.com/NQqhVqw9 | 16:08 |
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| djszapi | mpr: apt-cache policy for the relevant package, please ? | 16:14 |
| mpr | http://pastebin.com/zsNd9Pp6 | 16:15 |
| djszapi | see ? | 16:16 |
| mpr | yeah, but I guess something is out of sync in downloads.maemo.nokia.com if it finds that but the actual file is missing? | 16:16 |
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| mpr | but yeah, looking at harmattan-dev first solves the problem | 16:26 |
| djszapi | mpr: have you made an apt-get update ? If yes, the repo might be kinda broken. | 16:26 |
| mpr | yes I have, wouldn't see the harmattan-dev stuff at all otherwise :) | 16:27 |
| djszapi | yes, you would. | 16:27 |
| mpr | oh? | 16:27 |
| djszapi | but I try to report it to the SDK team leader tomorrow then, if you tried. | 16:27 |
| mpr | well have done it anyway | 16:27 |
| mpr | ok, thanks | 16:27 |
| djszapi | aheinecke: so you do not need me to manage your ho(s)tel for the KDE Harmattan sprint, you will manage it yourself ? | 16:30 |
| djszapi | because I will make the grouping for the whole group in one hostel, and I think it is better if we live together there. :) | 16:31 |
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| RST38h | Moo, ladies and gentlemen | 17:30 |
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| RST38h | moo, rm_you | 17:32 |
| rm_work | moo RST38h | 17:32 |
| javispedro | moo RST38h | 17:32 |
| * RST38h is back home | 17:32 | |
| rm_work | moo javispedro | 17:32 |
| rm_work | RST38h: everything still working alright with packrat / updating your packages? | 17:32 |
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| futbolsalas15 | hello, can someone help me to make a webconference about meego? I'm from Bogota, Colombia and at my university we will develop an Mobile OS Conference | 17:44 |
| futbolsalas15 | i request help on #meego, but answer me that meego is dead | 17:44 |
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| RST38h | rm_work: Frankly, have not checked for 2 weeks | 17:48 |
| RST38h | rm_work: Been in the States, away from N950.Last thing I know, someone from Ovi wrote that my packages do not start *directly* from Ovi Store, promised to investigate this week | 17:49 |
| RST38h | rm_work: But this, of course, has nothing to do with the repo ;) | 17:49 |
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| rm_work | lol yes | 17:58 |
| rm_work | have fun in the states? | 17:58 |
| rm_work | :P | 17:58 |
| RST38h | rm_work: yeah checked the touch screen precision on all the android phones in AT&T store! =) | 17:59 |
| RST38h | rm_work: with some surprising results BTW | 17:59 |
| RST38h | rm_work: every 4.3" Samsung device sucks moose balls at one-handed virt keyboard input | 18:00 |
| RST38h | rm_work: 4.5" Samsung is better | 18:01 |
| RST38h | rm_work: But if you really want to be able to type a calee name, one handed, get an HTC (no matter, WP7 or Android). | 18:01 |
| RST38h | Because Sammy if failing so miserably, it is not even funny any more. Although they all look the same. | 18:02 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: I think they are trying to avoid fixing Ovi Store. | 18:04 |
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| rm_work | lol | 18:21 |
| Velmont | Anyone know how to sync the old Android phone contacts from Google to Nokia N9? -- it did only import my GTalk-people right now. It got almost no phone information at all (even my girlfriend, only her jabber address, not phone no.) | 18:26 |
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| kkito | Velmont: create a mail for exchange account with your gmail credentials. It will import google contacts, calendar and mail | 18:51 |
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| Velmont | kkito: Ok. Cool. -- Do I have to do anything special on the gmail-side? | 18:56 |
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| lardman | oh I really do hate QML anchors | 19:25 |
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| lardman | one little apparently innocuous change and the whole thing is screwed | 19:26 |
| * lardman wonders if it's possible to get the layout decision tree from the QML runtime to find out what particular anchor/size is knackering things? | 19:27 | |
| RST38h | lardman: Madde is supposed to come with a QML debugger, no? | 19:29 |
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| lardman | RST38h: dunno, am using Linux to develop here | 19:29 |
| lardman | but I'll tale a look | 19:29 |
| lardman | take | 19:29 |
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| RST38h | lardman: Should run under Linux (known as QtSDK) | 19:31 |
| RST38h | lardman: did not runfor me underWindoze though | 19:32 |
| lardman | oh is that MADDE too, I thought that was the Windows version | 19:32 |
| RST38h | lardman: QtSDK appears to be just anothernamefor madde | 19:33 |
| lardman | ah ok | 19:33 |
| RST38h | lardman: and "platform sdk" isapseudonim for "scratchbox" :) | 19:33 |
| lardman | :) | 19:34 |
| lardman | well at least I now have something that stays on the screen and doesn't wander off the screen when I repeatedly change orientation - no clue why there's a slight offset mind you | 19:35 |
| lardman | anyone know how I can remove an anchor? For example when I rotate, some of the portrait anchors mess up my layout in landscape, and then when I rotate back it's even worse | 19:39 |
| * lardman tried None on the off chance | 19:40 | |
| lardman | s/d/s | 19:40 |
| lardman | nope | 19:42 |
| lardman | By way of an example, I have an Item {} which has a fixed size (100,100), which I set in each state (it would change normally). This contains a yellow rectangle with anchors.fill: parent set | 19:43 |
| lardman | therefore my feeling is that I should always end up with a yellow rectangle 100x100 | 19:43 |
| lardman | but when I rotate the screen, the rectangle becomes rectangular, 100 high and across the entire screen | 19:44 |
| lardman | I can't understand how this can happen when I explicitly set the size of its parent in each state | 19:44 |
| RST38h | lardman: Have you considered not using anchors? | 19:44 |
| lardman | RST38h: using explicit x and y coords instead? | 19:45 |
| RST38h | lardman: filling parent rectangles instead | 19:45 |
| RST38h | well, I guess it still uses anchors but not directly | 19:45 |
| lardman | well I need to change the screen layout depending on the orientation of the device, and for this simple page have a video widget with another Item containing a pair of buttons to perform functions | 19:46 |
| frals | so err, coming back to what i was asking yesterday.. running a process requiring tracker access under gdb on device, anyone got any hints? | 19:46 |
| lardman | so I basically need to move the buttons to either one side or below the video widget | 19:46 |
| RST38h | ah, so you need a complete layout switch | 19:46 |
| lardman | RST38h: it should be very simple, and I've no clue why it won't work, the code (I expect to need to use) is actually very simple | 19:47 |
| lardman | but adding anchors seems to change the size of my Item {}, which they screws things up. But my understanding was that anchors have a length of chain with them, so they don't stretch the objects they are anchoring | 19:48 |
| lardman | but perhaps I completely misunderstand.... | 19:48 |
| lardman | Anyway is enough to make one give up | 19:48 |
| frals | if you anchor something left and right its going to change the width of the item | 19:48 |
| lardman | frals: why? | 19:49 |
| tomma | well if you have item with fixed size and then anchor it for example windows left and right... then it will resize | 19:49 |
| Corsac | hmhmhm, 650€ for expansys n9/64g, *nice* | 19:49 |
| lardman | frals, tomma, hmm, I see | 19:49 |
| frals | lardman: because its going to occupy the whole size between the left and the right anchor | 19:49 |
| frals | lardman: anchor to one side only or use anchors.horizontalCenter or similar | 19:49 |
| frals | lardman: as for the why... no clue, thats how it works, and makes sense to me :) | 19:50 |
| lardman | frals: what if I need two rectangles one above the other, horizontally centred and spaced proportionally to the space between them and the edges? | 19:50 |
| RST38h | lardman: I have found that QML does not always recompute layout properly when rotating | 19:50 |
| lardman | I thought that's what an anchor would do, let things drift between anchored points | 19:51 |
| RST38h | lardman: No idea why, but it might be the reason | 19:51 |
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| lardman | RST38h: yeah that is a problem, some anchors are not wanted in certain orientations, so how can I disable them? | 19:51 |
| lardman | e.g. in a landscape layout I need to disable the horizontalCenter anchor, but am not sure how to do that. Any ideas? | 19:52 |
| gri | lardman, states and AnchorChanges | 19:52 |
| frals | lardman: could you draw me a picture? been a long day :D | 19:52 |
| lardman | gri: does AnchorChanges do something specific then? I was trying to work out why it was even a keyword when PropertyChanges seems to do the same thing | 19:53 |
| gri | lardman, PropertyChanges can't change anchors | 19:53 |
| lardman | gri: yes it can | 19:53 |
| lardman | or at least it does so | 19:53 |
| frals | anchors.left: undefined | 19:53 |
| lardman | frals: cool, thanks | 19:54 |
| gri | in QtQuick 1.0 it was not able, maybe it works in 1.1 :) | 19:54 |
| frals | im not sure if it works, but supposedely it should. i remember having some difficulties with it a few weeks back | 19:54 |
| lardman | gri: if AnchorChanges resets all anchors but for those mentioned that would be a reason for having it, otherwise I was just changing anchors in PropertyChanges as I also need to alter the width & height | 19:55 |
| lardman | hmm, perhaps it does do something differently, certainly my layout is slightly different | 19:58 |
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| gri | lardman, http://pastebin.com/JJKQQteH | 20:04 |
| gri | I just tried ? using PropertyChanges it does output warnings, using anchorchanges it does what I want | 20:05 |
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| lardman | gri: certainly the behaviour is different, which is a little odd, I'll see if I can fix it with AnchorChanges. | 20:07 |
| lardman | Anyone know who I should actually ask whether/what the difference is between AnchorChanges and PropertyChanges? | 20:07 |
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| frals | id guess #qt-qml | 20:09 |
| lardman | onto other weirdness: I have two buttons stacked one atop the other in a Rectangle, the buttons are sized in the states, the rectangle is set to childrenRect.width etc, but is less wide than the buttons | 20:10 |
| lardman | thanks frals | 20:10 |
| gri | lardman, If you have margins, those are substracted from width | 20:11 |
| lardman | no margins | 20:11 |
| frals | lardman: may we see the code? :) | 20:12 |
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| lardman | http://pastebin.com/hJ3kVsN2 | 20:12 |
| lardman | of course, sorry | 20:12 |
| lardman | that's the snippet in question, I'll pastebin the whole lot if you want | 20:13 |
| frals | lardman: the states part would be nice as well | 20:13 |
| lardman | sure, hang on a tick | 20:13 |
| lardman | http://pastebin.com/k5hnV3iF | 20:14 |
| lardman | lots of Rectangles in place of Items so I can see what on Earth is going on ;) | 20:14 |
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| gri | lardman, Why not create a Column {} for the Buttons and fill the rectangle with it? | 20:19 |
| gri | I read somewhere we should prevent ourselves from setting width and height if possible (don't remember where) | 20:19 |
| lardman | gri: a Column was my first choice, but I was also going to alter the arrangement of the buttons - side by side in landscape view | 20:20 |
| tomma | Row then | 20:21 |
| frals | lardman: you are setting the width for the rectangle | 20:21 |
| frals | lardman: so its not childrenRect.width anymore | 20:21 |
| lardman | yeah but they need to be in a row for landscape and a column for portrait, not sure I can switch between the two... | 20:21 |
| tomma | button group | 20:21 |
| frals | lardman: line 96 | 20:21 |
| lardman | frals: but why not, it's not updated after state property changes? | 20:22 |
| frals | lardman: if you set it to 250 its always going to be 250 until you change it to childrenRect.width again | 20:22 |
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| lardman | ah I see | 20:23 |
| lardman | I'll need to check and see what the buttons do | 20:23 |
| lardman | that was a left over from the more complex code I originally wrote, and have been paring back since nothing would work | 20:23 |
| frals | lardman: or let me rephrase, it will change depending on the propertychange you have in the state, if its not defined it will take initial expression i assume | 20:24 |
| lardman | tomma: I'll check that out, thanks | 20:24 |
| frals | lardman: http://pastebin.com/D0w3dGUv seems to workish here | 20:25 |
| lardman | thanks frals | 20:25 |
| lardman | tomma: re buttongroup, any docs on that anywhere? | 20:26 |
| frals | lardman: np | 20:26 |
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| tomma | lardman, seems like there is only ButtonColumn and ButtonRow... they have helper functions in ButtonGroup.js | 20:27 |
| * lardman realises why he hates uis now, 2 days spent bashing head against kb when I could have been doing something algorithmically useful | 20:27 | |
| lardman | thanks tomma | 20:27 |
| gri | anyone else here has crazy flickering when starting QMLviewer.app on osx (Qt 4.7.4 and Lion)? | 20:28 |
| thp | gri: nope - try the "-graphicssystem" switch, maybe it makes a difference | 20:32 |
| gri | thp, raster seems to be the normal one - flickers. OpenGL displays some weird buffer contents :) | 20:33 |
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| thp | gri: did you try "native" too> | 20:39 |
| thp | s/>/?/ | 20:39 |
| gri | thp, no and this actually doesn't flicker, wow :) | 20:40 |
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| lardman | if nothing else now debugging qml code using Rectangles in primary colours is a far more pleasant experience than staring at error messages :) | 20:56 |
| RST38h | heh | 20:56 |
| RST38h | yohoo, wazd | 20:56 |
| wazd | RST38h: woo :) | 20:57 |
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| mpr | I wonder how hard it would be to configure the default terminal so that it retains focus when the virtual keyboard is hidden | 20:59 |
| mpr | so that you could use the full screen when using an external bt keyboard | 20:59 |
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| mpr | is it something terminal-specific or would you need to dig the internals of the whole window management | 21:01 |
| lardman | how do you hide the vkb in the term? | 21:03 |
| mpr | slide it down | 21:03 |
| lardman | ah | 21:03 |
| lardman | happens with e.g. Messages too, so perhaps it could be changed in the vkb implementation so that it remembers which is the current app when it appears | 21:04 |
| dm8tbr | mpr: does bt kbd work for you if vkb is showing? | 21:04 |
| mpr | yes | 21:04 |
| dm8tbr | ... interesting | 21:04 |
| * lardman wonders where his BT kb has been hidden | 21:04 | |
| mpr | you can also see from the terminal cursor that it loses focus when you hide the vkb | 21:04 |
| dm8tbr | when I recently tried bt-kbd it would only work if I flipped out the hardware keyboard (and thus hid the vkb) | 21:05 |
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| mpr | yeah, probably different on devices with an actual hw keyboard, I'm on n9 | 21:08 |
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| dm8tbr | ah | 21:10 |
| dm8tbr | well good to know | 21:10 |
| dm8tbr | mpr: does it work in other apps or do they also loose the cursor/focus if you hide the vkb? | 21:11 |
| mpr | in messages it pops the vkb up whenever you type anything on the bt kb :) | 21:12 |
| dm8tbr | meh | 21:13 |
| dm8tbr | would be nice if bt-kbd would create an 'hw kbd' like event | 21:13 |
| dm8tbr | (there would be probably some bugs like autocapitalization etc, but I'd be happy to live with them) | 21:14 |
| mpr | actually in the actual new message view it just loses focus and doesn't respond to bt kb if vkb is hidden, same as in terminal | 21:16 |
| mpr | the popping-up happened only when focus was on some one-line input fields | 21:17 |
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| dm8tbr | mhm | 21:22 |
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| gri | ~seen spenap | 21:25 |
| gri | hmm | 21:25 |
| infobot | spenap <spena@nat/nokia/x-fkiqictlqjfiesjt> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 4d 5h 8m 2s ago, saying: '~seen ab'. | 21:25 |
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| aurynn | Hey. So, to recap: Got an N9, which is now asking for a re-flash. Can't find OS images anywhere. What now? | 21:57 |
| javispedro | you wait =) | 21:57 |
| aurynn | Ah-hah. :) So, I'm basically screwed right now. | 21:58 |
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| aurynn | Well, at least I know | 22:00 |
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| doomdog | ~moo | 22:01 |
| * infobot mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass | 22:01 | |
| aurynn | and I look good on the bbq... | 22:01 |
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| fiferboy | Is there anyway to load pre-existing thumbnails from tracker in QML? | 22:21 |
| gri | those for contacts, yes | 22:21 |
| gri | or what exactly is pre-existing? | 22:22 |
| fiferboy | Camera thumbnails in particular | 22:26 |
| fiferboy | QGalleryQueryModel is an easy way to get them, but I have to generate my own thumbnails that way | 22:27 |
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| pinheiro | humm any one knows the name for the msn protocol | 23:15 |
| pinheiro | msn telapathy | 23:15 |
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| fiferboy | pinheiro: telepathy-pecan I believe | 23:24 |
| fiferboy | Or telepathy-msn-pecan | 23:25 |
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| pinheiro | fiferboy: hummm | 23:38 |
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| pinheiro | mc-tool add msn/pecan? | 23:40 |
| * dm8tbr doesn't have such problems. just unified all IM protocols into one XMPP account by using transports | 23:42 | |
| pinheiro | gabble/jabber =jabber | 23:43 |
| frals | pinheiro: where did you find the plugin? | 23:48 |
| pinheiro | i didnt | 23:49 |
| pinheiro | for msn at least | 23:49 |
| pinheiro | jabber working fine | 23:49 |
| pinheiro | skype 2 | 23:49 |
| pinheiro | wondering if i can get msn aswell | 23:49 |
| frals | well you would need to install the telepathy plugin for it first | 23:50 |
| pinheiro | butterfly? | 23:50 |
| pinheiro | or haze? | 23:50 |
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| piggz | lo, does anyone know what formats work with qsoundeffect? im having trouble with wav, ogg and mp3!! | 23:57 |
| Lilltiger | Do anyone know if there is a working version of XBMC (not remote) for Harmattan (Nokia N9) | 23:57 |
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