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| javispedro | merlin1991: http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/harm/rdate/rdate_1.1.3-2_armel.deb | 00:02 |
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| djszapi | Hi! Is the package hicolor-icon-them available in the public sdk, repositories and so forth ? | 00:05 |
| javispedro | seemingly not | 00:06 |
| djszapi | weird, why it is not published .. | 00:08 |
| djszapi | ok, I put it onto c-obs until it is released by the SDK team, and we can delete it from the c-obs after the clash with the "official" version. | 00:16 |
| javispedro | djszapi: btw, I'm happy to report that "open mode" does work in beta2 :D | 00:22 |
| merlin1991 | djszapi: mind if I query you about the kde sprint in november? | 00:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: who's going to pick up on the daunting task of maintaining FU-Aegis-kernel now? | 00:36 |
| javispedro | ha | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | aka fua-pk | 00:36 |
| javispedro | I can keep on doing stock builds, but not a PK itself | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, but it's the PK stuff (though harm flavour) that's really interesting ;-) | 00:38 |
| javispedro | never been a fan of kitchensink kernels, I usually make my own smaller ones | 00:38 |
| * javispedro is a gentoo user , it shows ;P | 00:39 | |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, getting rid of paegis is probably the ultimate best thing of fua-pk anyway | 00:39 |
| javispedro | the warranty warning might scare people away, though | 00:41 |
| javispedro | btw, can someone with ??_en locale take a picture of it and publish it? | 00:41 |
| javispedro | of the warning, I mean | 00:41 |
| javispedro | it seems to depend on the locale chosen on first boot | 00:41 |
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| Corsac | can people on harmattan check if it supports syncml? | 00:54 |
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| kgutteridge | thp: if I want to include several databases (and therefore change name) do you know how I can include the .db files | 01:03 |
| kgutteridge | thp: so they can be referenced something like this db.setDatabaseName(QCoreApplication::applicationDirPath()+"/qml/firstdatabase.db"); | 01:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: good, I've chosen en locale, am on beta1 still though. wonder if the kernel will work with it | 01:10 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer51: obviously not, the changes came with beta2 =) | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | most likely not, due to modules | 01:11 |
| javispedro | NOLO | 01:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | rrrrrright | 01:11 |
| rcg | great work javispedro!! | 01:11 |
| javispedro | not much work here :) | 01:11 |
| rcg | just hit refresh on that aegis thread :D | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, I could -flash-only NOLO | 01:12 |
| rcg | javispedro: well, yeah.. i think many people contributed there but you seem to be that point where everything converges | 01:13 |
| rcg | thats actually the best news since week when it comes to maemo | 01:14 |
| rcg | as this suddenly "unlocks" all the stuff we were being locked out due to aegis | 01:14 |
| rcg | *err meego of course | 01:14 |
| rcg | lol kinda late here ;) | 01:14 |
| javispedro | there are many cons though, like the warranty warning, requiring a reflash to swap between modes, etc. | 01:15 |
| javispedro | but yes, this is good news I think. | 01:15 |
| rcg | yeah.. but imho overall the good news outweigh | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | guess what's first concern about providing it with fua-pk | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | overclocking, OMFG | 01:16 |
| javispedro | obviously | 01:16 |
| rcg | and maybe there will be more improvement overtime... | 01:16 |
| rcg | *over time | 01:16 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer51: I guess that it's now clear why the warning is there. | 01:16 |
| rcg | hehe.. "do not try this at home ..." advertisment | 01:17 |
| rcg | ah well.. shoulda go to bed.. my typing keeps getting worse | 01:17 |
| rcg | btw. DocScrutinizer51 is this also the key to your usb host mode stuff? | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | javispedro: yep, and thank God (or elop, whomver) for that | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yup | 01:19 |
| rcg | sweet | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, one down on obstacles | 01:20 |
| rcg | but a major one i suppose? | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | mhm | 01:20 |
| javispedro | considering this is the first I hear of a custom kernel booting in harm... | 01:23 |
| javispedro | s/harm/n950... | 01:23 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: Does it require a reflash, or can you boot it from PC? | 01:27 |
| javispedro | I am currently booting from PC | 01:27 |
| javispedro | there's something very weird here | 01:27 |
| * SpeedEvil wonders about a usb-key-thing that flashes. | 01:27 | |
| javispedro | despite kernel aegis being disabled, I still can't dmesg | 01:29 |
| rcg | btw... warranty is for sissies.. considering that n950 comes with no warranty at all and propably >50% of all n9 buyers are getting some shipment from foreign countries for which probably not even nokia knows how to handle warranty requests properly | 01:29 |
| * javispedro still doesn't understand many parts of aegis.. | 01:30 | |
| javispedro | aiui, "open mode" is a purely userspace thing, it just changes behaviour of userspace apps using libcreds | 01:32 |
| javispedro | from the kernel side, it just allows you to kill the validator | 01:32 |
| rcg | hmm ic.. but still you got movement in a before seemingly solid construction | 01:33 |
| rcg | anyways.. i seriously gotta hit the sack.. cya'll | 01:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | It's 'always' been said there will be an open mode. | 01:34 |
| SpeedEvil | It's just that this is the first revelation that it's probably possible to implement. | 01:35 |
| javispedro | open mode was until now used internally, enabled via r&d cert | 01:35 |
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| SpeedEvil | Indeed. | 01:38 |
| faenil | good evening (even if it's past midnight here xD) | 01:38 |
| javispedro | with it you can now theoretically plainly rm validator-init, which checked the hashes of core binaries, and instead of MALFing, it will go ahead and boot | 01:38 |
| javispedro | problem with trying that is that if it doesn't go ahead I'll have to reflash :) | 01:39 |
| faenil | javispedro: is that what you were talking about this afternoon? "I'm in the middle of something interesting" | 01:41 |
| javispedro | ye | 01:43 |
| javispedro | yep | 01:43 |
| faenil | nice :) | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, what we got is: custom kernel running, HARM rootfs not completely blowing chunks on boot right away, *some* apps confirmed to still work with such a tainted kernel, accli detecting that kernel is tainted and documenting this via "open mode" response, 2 or 3 commands not throwing "Error.AccessDenied: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules" or similar crap. But we still got no proper official way to shut down aegis and enter a lemme- | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | call-it clean linux mode | 01:43 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: whatever is preventing dmesg is on the kernel, which means I'm not worried. | 01:44 |
| javispedro | more problematic would have been if we had to hack individual userspace apps, each with its little checks | 01:44 |
| javispedro | (and as I said I didn't want to go "there") | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, we pwned the kernel thus the system, but we got a terribly messed up system in front of us, with no straight way to go to clean linux mode | 01:45 |
| javispedro | since rd mode is used internally, I guess that what remains of aegis is there because they use it for either debugging aegis itself or as a "reminder of how the device will act" | 01:45 |
| javispedro | so killing that is probably a one line away too. | 01:45 |
| javispedro | nothing is pwned | 01:46 |
| javispedro | envision a single if (unsigned_kernel) malf() on diverse binaries of the system, or refusal to access to existing aegisfs partitions (they are encrypted; if i'm reading them means aegis is "giving me the keys", so to speak) | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's what I said in my "modulo the fact that Nokia can decide to go one round further in that cat&mouse game and revoke/patch anything any time they want." | 01:48 |
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| javispedro | that's true, my hope is that with the noise that's been made they'd think twice before doing that. | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: (reading aegis-fs) that's why I asked you about ls -l /etc/ssl/certs|wc -l and was very amazed it was still possible on open-mode | 01:50 |
| javispedro | me too | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | this would actually mean we pwned the TPM | 01:51 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - strictly speaking, it means it was turned off in beta2? | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can fake the normal mode when you have full control over the kernel, so if (unsigned_kernel) malf() is moot. What we can't get back is a TPM that got locked down, and it seems we still own it | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | or sth in aegis is terribly odd implemented | 01:53 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, you pinged? | 01:55 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: yeah, but got it on my own; was looking for some MCE dbus message that was blocked. | 01:56 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, I won't have my N950 for another two weeks | 02:03 |
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| MohammadAG | iOS5's swipe down notification center looks pretty much like Harmattan | 02:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | surprise surprise | 02:33 |
| RST38h | ALso see Android notifications | 02:33 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, no | 02:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | called it a meeto-system long ago | 02:34 |
| MohammadAG | andr9id windows slide down | 02:34 |
| MohammadAG | this is Harmattan style swipe | 02:34 |
| MohammadAG | with the rounded corners too! | 02:34 |
| RST38h | Hmm | 02:34 |
| MohammadAG | the bastards | 02:34 |
| RST38h | BTW, believe it or not but Android web browser cannot do ftp:// =) | 02:34 |
| MohammadAG | first thing that came to my mind is not the Galaxy SII in the house, but my N950 | 02:35 |
| javispedro | hi there RST38h | 02:36 |
| RST38h | mooo, javispedro | 02:36 |
| RST38h | javispedro: how is....mhm....research? | 02:36 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: Isn't it natural, given how we all love N950? =) | 02:36 |
| javispedro | RealLife research is suspend for 8 more hours or soo (today was a holiday, spent first half of it sleeping =) ) | 02:37 |
| RST38h | javispedro: Some people manage to suspend it for years! | 02:39 |
| * RST38h found that most Android tablets demoed at the large electronics chain here in the US are logged into peoples' Google accounts. | 02:40 | |
| RST38h | I could actually BUY apps from the Market if I wanted =) | 02:40 |
| javispedro | heh | 02:42 |
| javispedro | noone clears the browser cookies from those | 02:42 |
| javispedro | so you can find plenty of facebook accounts | 02:42 |
| RST38h | who needs fb accounts? now, their credit cards are different business... | 02:43 |
| RST38h | and Google conveniently ties them to their accounts | 02:43 |
| javispedro | I know at least one person that uses to post stuff like "I'm gay" (in a more elaborated way) to the facebooks of these peoples | 02:44 |
| RST38h | javispedro: ahhaha | 02:44 |
| RST38h | Meanwhile: Officials at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada knew for two weeks about a virus infecting the drone "cockpits" there. But they kept the information about the infection to themselves - leaving the unit that's supposed to serve as the Air Force's cybersecurity specialists in the dark. The network defenders at the 24th Air Force learned of the virus by reading about it in Danger Room. | 02:51 |
| TSCHAKeee | ouch | 02:52 |
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| GeneralAntilles | RST38h, and yet people want government involved in every part of their lives for some reason. | 03:06 |
| RST38h | General: You would rather want Raytheon management to fail reporting the virus in their drone control systems? | 03:21 |
| RST38h | General: Would that difference make you feel better? | 03:21 |
| RST38h | or Boeing maybe? or Lokheed Martin? | 03:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | RST38h, hey at least they lose money when they screw up | 03:27 |
| GeneralAntilles | the government's incentive is all screwed to hell. | 03:28 |
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| RST38h | General: Actually, they do not lose money | 03:57 |
| RST38h | General: That is the fun part: you get to choose between inefficient government and inefficient corporation with internal structure closely resembling one of Soviet Union | 03:58 |
| RST38h | Government is actually more manageable, as it is a bit more transparent :) | 03:58 |
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| * SpeedEvil notes that to launch 60 tons to orbit in the next decade, lockmart wants $30B. | 04:14 | |
| SpeedEvil | Commercial launch vehicles can do 30000 tons for the same money. | 04:14 |
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| RST38h | SpeedEvil: What are you launching? =) | 04:17 |
| SpeedEvil | Alas nothing. | 04:17 |
| SpeedEvil | Though I do have sketches for a four-stage orbital launcher. | 04:18 |
| RST38h | Does it use antigravitation? | 04:18 |
| SpeedEvil | No. | 04:18 |
| RST38h | Eh... | 04:18 |
| SpeedEvil | Peroxide, and kerosene. | 04:18 |
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| RST38h | Gizmodo writer having an erection in public: http://gizmodo.com/5848834/icloud-is-a-bigger-deal-than-you-think-its-the-future-of-computing | 05:32 |
| RST38h | (I guess some people never went to college and did not have a chance to find out about Unix networking] | 05:33 |
| nibbler | omgponies, someone build a web-based calendar and addressbook and stuff. all fanbois aboard the fap-ship! | 05:38 |
| nibbler | *scnr* - i think i have to throw up. | 05:39 |
| * nibbler had that functionality with _symbian_ (of all things) ever since he set up a funambol instance and webdav. | 05:41 | |
| nibbler | and it even was platform/vendor-independent. | 05:41 |
| djszapi | merlin1991: query about what ? | 06:01 |
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| jylan | Has anyone with the N950/N9 experience bugs with the camera autofocus? | 07:31 |
| jylan | Autofocus seems to stop responding completely after a while on my N9 | 07:31 |
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| frals | anyone that flashed 'open mode' kernel to this device and tried facebookqml, does it still work? | 07:54 |
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| djszapiN9 | merlin1991, i am about to send the participant list further. What query did you mean ? | 10:09 |
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| djszapi | merlin1991: and the sprint is mostly invite-only. | 10:27 |
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| dm8tbr | djszapi: ah, like tizen? SCNR | 10:28 |
| djszapi | dm8tbr: well, if you take the sponsorship for the participants, we can sponsor anybody. ;) | 10:29 |
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| mja | OK, any1 able to translate QA English to ordinary English: "The application should prevent the user when receiving an sms"? | 11:11 |
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| djszapi | prevent from what ? | 11:12 |
| djszapi | from receiving an sms ? | 11:13 |
| mja | I don't know.. | 11:13 |
| dfaure | was that written by a french guy? | 11:14 |
| dfaure | looks like "prévenir" which would mean alert | 11:14 |
| dfaure | (notify) | 11:14 |
| mja | it goes on: "when launching the application is running, and a messages its received the application not prevent the user about the sms" | 11:14 |
| mja | dear lord.. | 11:15 |
| djszapi | =) | 11:15 |
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| mja | that could be a google translation | 11:17 |
| mja | but I don't know honestly what I can do about sms:s | 11:17 |
| mja | my program is a game | 11:18 |
| Kaadlajk | it is either that your application should not prevent a SMS notification or it should prevent the notification when your app is started :P | 11:26 |
| Kaadlajk | is that from OVI store? | 11:26 |
| mja | yep | 11:29 |
| mja | I don't understand how anyone can publish pure qt programs in the store if stuff like that is required | 11:30 |
| mja | means I probably have to include messaging stuff in aegis manifest etc | 11:30 |
| djszapi | mja: because there has not been a proper OVI Qa yet. | 11:31 |
| djszapi | QA* | 11:31 |
| mja | jswhat do you mean by that? | 11:31 |
| mja | djszapi: ... | 11:32 |
| * Arkenoi ordered metawatch | 11:32 | |
| djszapi | mja: there is no proper QA in OVI. Stuff like that can occur. | 11:32 |
| mja | so QA for the store is pretty random? | 11:33 |
| djszapi | it is pretty bad, yes. :/ | 11:33 |
| mja | awesome.. | 11:33 |
| djszapi | they have been working on it though applying many new developers. | 11:34 |
| xarcass | Arkenoi: is it already possible? btw, where are you from? | 11:36 |
| mja | OK, I just tried it, and in both the game and the main menu there is a notification bar popping up when receiving an sms | 11:36 |
| mja | why should it be disabled? | 11:36 |
| mja | sheesh | 11:36 |
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| rantom | Who's got a N9? | 11:40 |
| rantom | Retail, not developer | 11:40 |
| * xarcass strokes his retail N9 tenderly | 11:41 | |
| rantom | xarcass: Enabled developer-mode? Everything ok? | 11:42 |
| xarcass | flawlessly | 11:42 |
| rantom | I'd need Terminal for SSH & IRC but I'm not sure do I want to enabled developer-mode just for that | 11:42 |
| rantom | Ok, good | 11:42 |
| ajalkane | someone in meego forum borked their N9 enabling developer mode | 11:43 |
| ajalkane | without a flasher available, not usable anymore | 11:43 |
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| rantom | That's exactly why I'm a bit worried | 11:43 |
| rantom | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4663 | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | isn't there a N9 OCF? | 11:44 |
| rantom | I've been told that it's ok but I'm still a bit unnerved about enabling it | 11:44 |
| rantom | OCF? | 11:44 |
| xarcass | mine has been enabled for about a week for now, yet haven't got a chance to regret about this | 11:44 |
| mece | wow damn | 11:45 |
| mece | rantom, one click flasher | 11:45 |
| rantom | Ah, ok | 11:45 |
| rantom | Stskeeps: So far no, I think | 11:45 |
| mece | why why why is there no flasher?? | 11:45 |
| rantom | I'm thinking of waiting until one is at hand for public and then enabling it | 11:45 |
| rantom | mece: Probably because it's not launched(?) yet in all regions and they don't want people to go and try to flash N9 retail fw to developer-devices? | 11:46 |
| rantom | IF someone would be that...impatient | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | you can't, anyway | 11:46 |
| xarcass | rantom: i've enabled devmode before that thread appeared on the forum. otherwise i would have waited | 11:47 |
| rantom | Hmm, ok | 11:47 |
| mece | What difference does it make if the devs install retail fw? I don't understand the problem there. | 11:47 |
| rantom | mece: just guessing | 11:47 |
| rantom | there is no problem | 11:48 |
| rantom | oh wait, there is | 11:48 |
| * rantom | 11:48 | |
| rantom | But yeah, thanks. I might try to be safe and wait for the public OCF, just to be sure | 11:49 |
| * w00t has seen two developer modes enabled without problems | 11:54 | |
| rantom | Quite an odd day today though in Finland. Day of failure, day of beer, N9 launched and Ubuntu 11.10 launches today | 11:56 |
| rantom | Something is bound to go wrong.. | 11:56 |
| special | Dennis Ritchie died, does that count? | 11:58 |
| * dfaure can't enable developer-mode :( | 11:58 | |
| rantom | special: I'd guess | 11:59 |
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| rantom | dfaure: How come? It just won't enable? | 11:59 |
| dfaure | yep, "Download failed" | 11:59 |
| dfaure | when trying to download the developer-mode package | 11:59 |
| dfaure | on a n950 beta2 | 11:59 |
| Hq` | something did go wrong... my N9 hasn't even shipped yet | 12:00 |
| Hq` | stupid dumb company store | 12:00 |
| rantom | dfaure: Ah, beta2 | 12:01 |
| dfaure | rantom: isn't that the latest? ;) | 12:01 |
| rantom | Mine failed too but reboot fixed | 12:01 |
| rantom | Yes | 12:01 |
| dfaure | tried rebooting already | 12:01 |
| rantom | But I thought you were talking about the retail fw | 12:01 |
| rantom | oh, then I don't know | 12:02 |
| dfaure | retail? I thought this thing wasn't being sold yet? | 12:02 |
| rantom | I always use Windows-logic for that kindof errors (as in: reboot) :P | 12:02 |
| rantom | dfaure: N9 | 12:02 |
| dfaure | ah ok | 12:02 |
| mja | I know I'm asking a lot, but could someone with N9 test my game and see what happens when an sms is received? | 12:04 |
| mja | on the N950 beta2 it's as it should, the notification bar pops up at the top of the srcreen | 12:04 |
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| mja | https://projects.developer.nokia.com/MTCatchShake | 12:06 |
| mja | .deb version 1.0.1 | 12:06 |
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| djszapi | http://boingboing.net/2011/10/12/dennis-ritchie-1941-2011-computer-scientist-unix-co-creator-c-co-inventor.html | 12:06 |
| mece | rip Dennis | 12:07 |
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| jreznik | djszapi: http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/303087_10150407677653523_106976563522_9959561_112348140_n.jpg | 12:25 |
| jreznik | do you know how to ask OVI Store people to add some application to selected Collection (you know, that collection that are empty right now...) | 12:27 |
| djszapi | one of his quotes: ""UNIX is very simple, it just needs a genius to understand its simplicity."" | 12:27 |
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| jreznik | djszapi: you mean lennart? :) | 12:28 |
| * jreznik should not be sarcastic now | 12:28 | |
| djszapi | jreznik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie#Quotes | 12:28 |
| jreznik | djszapi: I know, just with lennart & company there's new re-definition of what Unix should looks like | 12:29 |
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| djszapi | Mmm..For the record, I deleted the alsa-lib aggregation from the community repository since that was duplicated, if I am not mistaken. | 13:59 |
| djszapi | and unfortunately, it was even broken. kdebase-runtime could not pick up the proper libasound-dev version.. so either an old version, or aggregate is not working well in this case. | 14:00 |
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| macmaN | uuga uuga, what is this im reading about kernel sources aegis-liberation | 14:06 |
| mece | seems the N9 is selling very well in Finland. | 14:11 |
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| djszapi | would be nice to have a tool that can mention if a certain package is already available from the "official" repositories. | 14:13 |
| mece | is the downloads.nokia.com the official ones? | 14:15 |
| djszapi | many breakages happened so far because of the duplications. | 14:16 |
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| faenil | good morning! any news? :D | 14:19 |
| djszapi | someone told a guy called faenil needs to return his device :p :p | 14:20 |
| faenil | omg, are you talking for real? | 14:20 |
| faenil | XD | 14:20 |
| faenil | lol | 14:20 |
| djszapi | entirely real :D :D | 14:21 |
| faenil | dammit! XD | 14:21 |
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| * faenil disconnects and vanishes | 14:21 | |
| leinir | hm. arbitrary decisions are fun | 14:21 |
| leinir | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?229473-Bouncing-event-animation-on-N9-lock-screen | 14:21 |
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| dm8tbr | leinir: as a workaround, can you programatically create a calendar event at second accuracy? or does that only do minute level resolution. | 14:24 |
| leinir | dm8tbr: well, that'll also make it spawn a calendar event to be dismissed... | 14:25 |
| djszapi | faenil: btw, I will be in Munich by Friday early morning | 14:26 |
| dm8tbr | call it 'tea ready' :) | 14:26 |
| djszapi | so Sunday sounds ok to me. | 14:26 |
| faenil | djszapi: wow :D | 14:26 |
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| faenil | lunch's ready, be back later :) | 14:27 |
| leinir | dm8tbr: well, more to the point the app has other things too.. | 14:28 |
| leinir | but, i guess, a banner event will have to do | 14:28 |
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| faenil | back :) | 14:44 |
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| maxw | anyone know if there's a telnet prog for n950? | 15:26 |
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| maxw | lo? anyone? telnet? | 15:36 |
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| Stskeeps | doesn't busybox have one? | 15:37 |
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| * xarcass have complaint to the Nokia Care about vibration level. Surprisingly, they admitted the problem and that other users also have similar inconvenience. They also assured me that report have been sent to the developers team and solution will be available in the near future. | 15:57 | |
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| Stskeeps | "please have this bluetooth dildo to help your vibration level problem" | 15:58 |
| w00t | hahaha | 15:58 |
| faenil | ahhahaah | 15:59 |
| maxw | Stskeeps: seems not :/ | 15:59 |
| * xarcass pukes | 15:59 | |
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| * SpeedEvil imagines the nk-dld49. | 16:11 | |
| SpeedEvil | xarcass: on the n9? | 16:11 |
| xarcass | yep | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xarcass: the device is ok, it's just the OS implementation details that suck | 16:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and of course the product requirement specs are not my cup of tea | 16:21 |
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| * xarcass cannot see any relation between vibration level and OS implementation and hopes that BT dildo won't be too expensive | 16:22 | |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | relation #1: why got vibra-patterns nuked out of mce.ini? | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | on fremantle it's been easy to define your very individual patternVibraACMEorgasm there | 16:26 |
| xarcass | well, I doubt that if it was in the mce.ini i would've been able to edit it anyway. so it's all the same to me. I don't even know what that MCE stands for | 16:26 |
| * xarcass wonders whether there will be mce.ini inside that BT dildo and how it would be possible to edit it | 16:27 | |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Missin Control Entity (or Machine) | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and yes you actually can edit /etc/mce/mce.ini afaik | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | mission* | 16:28 |
| xarcass | sounds dangerous to me. I wouldn't dare messing about it. | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | not missing | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | maybe linux isn't the right platform for your needs then | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway I *think* you could find out if you may mess with mce.ini by # grep 'mce/' restok | 16:31 |
| snowpong | whats the uniqe identifier for .deb packages, is it the package name or? Symbian has UID3's - for meego/harmattan/deb I'm a bit unsure (wanting to make sure software updates work) | 16:32 |
| xarcass | I wonder why all people keep saying me exactly this.. I've been using linux constantly (with various flavors) since 1994. Without complaint or regret. I just don't want to brick my phone before official flasher becomes available | 16:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | fair enough | 16:32 |
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| xarcass | moreover, that's not my problem: many people face the same issue and they may be not as experienced in linux as me or you - they must not be linux guru just to use the phone. overall device quality - that's what concerns me. | 16:34 |
| cos^ | anyone know a decent geocaching app for harmattan? i just tested cacheme and it's not stable enough yet. | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the device qualityt is just fine for what I can tell so far | 16:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | again, it's HARM that sucks | 16:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and for all I can deduce N9 is shipping with a firmware that's called Beta2 on N950 | 16:40 |
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| thp | btw, is there a way to put stuff onto the lockscreen like e.g. unread text messages are currently displayed? | 19:51 |
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| RST38h | Standard MTF notification framework shoudl work, I was told | 19:54 |
| leinir | Yeah, that works | 19:55 |
| leinir | it's annoying, but it works | 19:55 |
| thp | does it allow direct interaction or just a single "swipe to the right" activation of the item? | 19:55 |
| RST38h | second | 19:56 |
| thp | (i.e. would a media player "widget" with different areas be possible?) | 19:56 |
| RST38h | nope | 19:57 |
| RST38h | but you can have one on the same screen where feeds and weather are | 19:57 |
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| frals | RST38h: how? :) | 20:26 |
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| petteri | got n9 today. Seems that the white led is not blinking when I charge the device. It works when I boot however | 21:18 |
| petteri | i assumed it should blink | 21:19 |
| berndhs | so now what? give up on technology, move to Tahiti and paint natives ? | 21:20 |
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| rayyen | zImage-2.6.32.39-dfl61-20112910-lizardo, anyone tried it on N9? | 21:22 |
| rayyen | I really dont give a f..k about warranty as long as it doesnt brick it or something.. I was there was a warning. | 21:23 |
| rayyen | on phone + typing = a mess. | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | you cannot assume it won't brick it, fwiw :P | 21:24 |
| rayyen | has anyone tried it on n9? :) | 21:24 |
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| rayyen | bricked or a locked aegis-lovin kernel.. | 21:25 |
| rayyen | Im leaning towards bricked.. probably have to wait a day or two until I get there :P | 21:26 |
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| djszapi | hi wazd =) | 22:28 |
| djszapi | long time ago.. | 22:28 |
| wazd | djszapi: heya | 22:28 |
| wazd | djszapi: I'm a horrible monster, I know | 22:28 |
| wazd | djszapi: probabbly you've already made a voodoo doll for me | 22:28 |
| djszapi | haha =) | 22:29 |
| wazd | djszapi: but I'm still having that insanely crazy product launch | 22:29 |
| djszapi | :/ | 22:29 |
| augustl | is it true? Can I get full root access to my N9 now, and keep the swipe UI? | 22:29 |
| wazd | djszapi: I'm almost dead myself | 22:30 |
| augustl | petteri: it's supposed to blink, yeah | 22:30 |
| * djszapi hugs wazd | 22:31 | |
| wazd | djszapi: and my videocard died today or something, which definitely proves my voodoo theory :P | 22:32 |
| wazd | well, something's definitely wrong but I'm still trying to figure out what :) | 22:33 |
| petteri | augustl: ok, do you think i should return the device (i thought it could be software bug, since the led works when the n9 boots)? | 22:34 |
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| augustl | petteri: no idea really.. I don't think I would | 22:44 |
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| djszapi | anybody having an idea for this issue ? http://preview.tinyurl.com/3sxzfov A higher version of this package is apparently available here: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/a/alsa-lib/ | 23:02 |
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| petteri | reading on the finnish forum, it seems to be common problem that black 64GB version does not blink the led when charcgin | 23:05 |
| petteri | can anybody here confirm the bug? | 23:05 |
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| djszapi | wazd: will you have some time in the near future ? :p | 23:09 |
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| wazd | djszapi: yeah, actually tomorrow will be the release | 23:09 |
| trx | is it just me or is gsm signal reception on n950 VERY poor? | 23:09 |
| trx | i inserted a sim card today for the first time, and it sucks | 23:10 |
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| djszapi | wazd: cool. | 23:12 |
| trx | n900 has signal everywhere in my house while n950 doesnt even see it.. | 23:12 |
| trx | (the network) | 23:12 |
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| trx | i wonder if i maybe have "Shun" on this server :) | 23:25 |
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| RST38h | moooo javispedro | 23:41 |
| javispedro | moo. | 23:41 |
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