IRC log of #harmattan for Wednesday, 2011-10-05

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DocScrutinizerbusybox find :-P00:14
infobotmessy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils00:14
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ieatlintyeah, well, it's a pretty critical issue... i have 3 different harmattan release toolchains installed, and all 3 give the same error00:20
ieatlintremove the addFiles.path line, and it'll create the debian package without issue00:21
alteregoieatlint: can I see your .pro file plox :)00:21
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ieatlinthas anyone played with MEventFeed in harmattan? i can publish items to it no problem, but the action for clicking on it can only be specified as a QUrl... and i'm wondering how to open my app via a QUrl01:16
artemmaieatlint: I'd be interested in the same. Don't know the answer unfortunately01:25
ieatlintperhaps i should just try file:// :P01:29
ieatlintnope :)01:31
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berndhscan you use a mime type of the file /data  and associate your app with that ?01:38
ieatlintthat would be a funny way to do it, and might require bouncing through the browser, but it could work... can you associate custom mime types like that though?01:40
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berndhsit goes through xdg-open or the equivalent thereof I think01:41
berndhsi dont know to what extent harmattan uses this though01:43
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DocScrutinizeron fremantle there were services, like tel: http: file: whatnot, and some way to specify a "server" for each service02:11
DocScrutinizerI think it was even in .desktop files where servers declared the services they were capable to handle02:13
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DocScrutinizeror maybe I dreamt all of that02:14
berndhsah, harmattan has xdg-open02:23
berndhsif you type "xdg-open" you start the browser02:24
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berndhsand xdg-open gets you email02:26
berndhsnot that it sends anything, but hey02:27
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ieatlintDocScrutinizer, berndhs, artemma yes, you're correct, the way to do it is via mime-types04:50
ieatlintyou specify a new mime type in an xml file in /usr/share/contentaction/, then set your .desktop file to handle it04:51
ieatlintso i just made a "lp-event:12345" scheme, so when you press on the notification, launches my app with "12345" as an argument to the app04:51
DocScrutinizeryou're sure you need to care about setting the new mimetype in contentaction?04:51
ieatlintuh, no, i didn't test04:52
DocScrutinizerI think on fremantle that was done by some "magic"04:52
ieatlintwill try without even creating the xml04:52
ieatlintthe libcontentaction docs aren't the best :(04:52
ieatlintyou are indeed correct, forego the xml file04:53
DocScrutinizerParsed by libhildonmime, this field relates the mime type of a file to the applications which can be used to open it.04:54
ieatlintyep, you add this line to your desktop file: "MimeType=x-maemo-urischeme/blah" and then "blah:" will open your app, and anything after the : will be an argument to the app04:55
DocScrutinizererr, dunno - maybe
ieatlintif your app is already running though, it'll just bring it to the foreground04:56
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DocScrutinizerthat's probably yet another problem, also seen when you invoke same app twice from e.g xterm05:00
DocScrutinizersomething[TM] will notice the app is already running and will just switch it to front (not always obviously, there *are* apps that can get invoked multiple times concurrently)05:02
DocScrutinizerfor those who can't it's probably that something[TM] that's responsible to make the original instance take the parameters from second invocation or via dbus or whatever05:03
DocScrutinizerimagine e.g. notes - you wouldn't want a currently edited note to get closed and possibly discarded when somewhere else a mimetipe URI note:foobar gets invoked05:05
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DocScrutinizerso handling is pretty much up to the app05:05
DocScrutinizerat least that's what I'd expect to find05:06
ieatlintwell, i've been working for 11h, and managed to have a prototype board die on me today05:07
ieatlintprobably time to quit05:08
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berndhsyeah quit breaking things :)05:09
ieatlinti didn't do anything, i blame god05:12
berndhsstandard procedure is to blame aegis05:13
ieatlintpeople keep telling me he does bad things as part of some plan that you're too insignificant to understand, so it seems to fit05:13
ieatlintoooh, canada is a good one05:13
berndhsCanada couldn't break things if we tried05:13
ieatlintexcept inuit treaties05:15
ieatlintbut those things practically break themselves05:15
DocScrutinizeroh, wasn't that the cherokee or cheyene treaty, or sth like that?05:16
DocScrutinizer"that's your land over there" ...5 years later "sorry guys, we found $RANDOM_VALUABLE_STUFF on/under your land, so it's not yours anymore"05:18
ieatlintwe let them have casinos and alcoholism at least05:19
DocScrutinizeryeah, and those are both easy to move05:20
ieatlintif it were that easy to move it, we wouldn't have so many homeless alcoholics here05:20
DocScrutinizermove over there, we already prepared that land for you05:20
DocScrutinizerI.E. we cut all the trees, dumped all litter we could possibly find, and of course eradicated all potential threats by animals05:22
DocScrutinizer(move) I meant it's easy to move the casinos and the alcohol supply05:25
DocScrutinizerto move the alcoholism you need to move the people, and that might be less easy05:27
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berndhsactually plenty of bears in Canada, and coyotes have been moving north for decades05:33
berndhsCoyotes are doing really well05:33
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ieatlinti'm excited to learn this day that the solicitor general of aruba is named "taco stein"06:44
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ScifigThe ssh daemon on N950 is getting unusable. It was bad in beta1 for me and it became worse in beta2. ssh regular password authentication takes 5 minutes. Then it freezes when I type a command.08:37
Stskeepsprobably due to your wifi PSM08:38
hiemanshuhey people08:38
* hiemanshu is off to dubai for the rest of the week08:38
ScifigStskeeps, I can ssh fine to N900 and my desktop fine. Only N950 is the problem.08:39
StskeepsScifig: so, wifi power saving works by buffering up data at the wifi AP and n950 asking for it once in a while, so n950 -> outside is ok, but opposite isn't08:40
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SpeedEvilPowersaving is a complex and often misimplemented bit of the spec08:40
Scifigaah. Is there any setting to be changed to temporarily leave wifi outside powersaving?08:41
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Stskeepspossibly somewhere in battery08:42
SpeedEvilthat's power saver08:43
ScifigI have automatic powersaving selected when battery is < 20%. But my battery is now > 90% and is now being charged. Still ssh is freezing :(08:43
SpeedEvilWhich tears down the connection if not 'in use'08:43
SpeedEvilIt's nothing to do with wifi-psm08:43
Stskeepswell, not sure where wifi psm settign is nowaday08:44
SpeedEvilI can't find it08:44
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ScifigWell, atleast for now I have changed "power saver mode" to off.08:49
ScifigSpeedEvil, In setting menu even I don't see anything related to auto-disconnection. Probably it is in some files or gconf may be?08:50
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SpeedEvilThe automatic powersaving thing turns off internet interfaces if they're not in use08:58
SpeedEvilWifi powersaving mode turns off the wifi radio reciever most of the time, only waking it up to see if there are new packets for it.08:58
SpeedEvilSometimes - however - this breaks, and can cause either extended delaus in connection, or failed connectins08:59
ScifigMy only problem is that automatic power saver is disconnecting connections even when battery level more than the set threshold.09:01
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rantomCorrect me if I'm wrong but isn't the N9 a pentaband (aka a Word Phone?)10:15
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matrixxrantom: it is10:26
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rantommatrixx: Thanks10:30
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* artemma just noticed that he cannot paste text into browser. Can't use google translator then.. Is it a Nokia's push towards the apps?11:19
rantomartemma: Hold your thumb over the address-bar11:21
rantom"Liitä" (Paste) showed up to me11:21
artemmarantom: that would work for addresses indeed. However, addresses are exactly pieces of text where you need copy-paste the least as links in most of places are opened on click :)11:22
rantomartemma: Correction: you have to open the hardware-keyboard too11:23
artemmaI am after text areas11:23
artemmafor addresses it works with closed keyboard too11:23
artemmaI can paste using Ctrl-V on HW keyboard :)11:24
rantomI can't :(11:24
artemmathe first clearly superior point of N950 :)11:24
rantomok, now it worked11:24
rantomI'd say that's a bug11:24
artemmamore like a totally missing use case11:25
artemmathere isn't even a ctrl button on virtual keyboard11:25
rantomYou can manually re-type certain section of the URL if you hold your thumb over the URL, there's a magnifying glass appearing for it11:26
rantomartemma: I'd guess they'll add the Paste-droplet to the normal fields too11:26
artemmainterestingly Copy also works with hw keyboard only11:26
artemmawithout it you can't even select text :)11:26
artemmawell, actually even with hw keyboard u can select text only in text fields, but that's better than nothing11:27
artemmamaybe they are just keeping some features down to leave some market for Firefox :)11:28
rantomOk, I like the magnifying glass11:29
rantomWonder how I missed it earlier, it works outside of browser11:29
artemmamagnifying glass?11:29
rantomType an url, go to the end of it and hold your thumb and drag it to the left11:30
rantomDon't high-light the url, it won't work then11:30
Arkenoiofficial Russia n9 launch event is tomorrow. I wonder if there will be new firmware soon as well. Beta2 is slightly disappointing.11:31
rantomartemma: Or for easier: type the URL, enter to that URL and then tap and drag to the left (again, no high-lighting)11:32
rantomWorks in SMS too11:32
rantomArkenoi: I'd guess that we'll have the new fw at the 13th11:33
artemmarantom: I see the glass, it can move the cursor and that's it11:33
rantomSince that's the "official" launch-date for N911:33
rantomartemma: Yes, that's what I meant11:33
rantomHelps a lot, imo11:33
rantomIn SMS I was constantly erasing the mistyped text, now I can fix it with that11:34
rantomTime will tell which is better11:34
artemmarantom: for careful positioning - yes. I just still think that URL is the part whee you need it the least11:34
artemmafor sms it's probably more useful11:34
rantomartemma: Yeah, that may be true. Happened to notice it in browser11:34
rantomBut yeah, copy-paste could be improved and hopefully will be11:35
rantomI don't use them that often but without the hw-kb I'd be in afkward position when trying to copy-paste with N911:36
rantom"ok I need the hw-kb now.. oh, right..."11:36
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DocScrutinizerbrowser simply missing the pointer-mode of microB12:14
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MohammadAGyeah, had trouble copying the address to ship the N950 to on the N95012:45
MohammadAGwas a simple shift + select on N90012:45
SpeedEvilThs UI is quite polished - but not very deep.12:47
SpeedEvil(... n950 latest - n9 may of course vary)12:48
artemmafor start, there is no way to press shift-left on N9 virtual keyboard :)12:48
SpeedEvilHit first use-case of capacitive annoying me.12:49
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SpeedEvilIt would be a _lot_ easier if I could pop out the pointer12:50
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SpeedEvilAnd I now realise why angry birds launches as it does.12:50
sandst1SpeedEvil: so you're playing Chuck Norris -minesweeper?12:51
SpeedEvilAlso - my sim interactive balance requet doesn't seem to work12:53
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SpeedEvilPerhaps kkito.13:37
artemmawhat is the for API to show global notifications to the user13:40
artemmaSomething like "download finished"13:41
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artemmaand actually what is the most natural harmattan way to do it: to put note to notification stream or to show in the top of the screen note?13:42
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artemmaIs MEventFeed the best way for this kind of notifications?13:51
griartemma: MNotification13:57
artemmagoogling and reading13:58
grithose are the system-wide banners like "battery now loading" etc.13:58
artemmahmm, I can find it on google, but not in the harmattan dev library13:58
griand also in other visual style "new sms"13:58
griartemma: It belongs to meegotouch which is not included in the pretty harmattan dev library13:59
artemmawell, I guess if there are system notifications like that, I should also be allowed to use it13:59
griIt's not forbidden to use meegotouch14:00
* artemma is searching for MNotification usage example14:02
griif you want to stay in your program, QML also has a InfoBanner object14:02
gribut this is only visible on your application's screen14:02
artemmaI think global notification should work better for me14:02
artemmaI want to signal about download start/end. download can take time so user may exit app already14:03
artemmain the next phase download may even happen on schedule without any visible ui14:03
griwhy not use the TransferUI?14:03
artemmatransfer ui?14:04
artemmaI've seen the topic in the docs, but didn't actually read it14:04
grithen read it, I think that's what you want14:04
artemmaoh, now I remember why I didn't read it through :)14:04
artemmathe first page tells that you use Transfer UI if you want to present transfers to the user :)14:05
artemmadoesn't tell about what the transfers are and why you'd like to present them14:05
artemmai thought it's about transfering between phones14:05
artemmalike in Switch14:05
griyou can set descriptions14:05
grithe feed application for example uses the transfer ui14:06
grithe browser uses it for file downloading14:06
artemmaI am doing more than just download14:06
artemmaI download image, process it, set it as wallpaper and then I want to signal to user that new wallpaper is ready14:06
artemmaindicating progress is also nice, but not mandatory14:07
griso you could use both, transfer ui and notification14:07
gribeing able to cancel a download as user is always nice14:07
artemmaIt may help simultaneous usage also maybe (when user wants to download 2nd image while 1st transfer is still in progress)14:08
* artemma is searching for examples14:08
nealartemma: Have you considered using Woodchuck to schedule the downloads?14:11
nealartemma: It sounds like it might be a good fit for your application.14:11
artemmaneal, I managed to make alarmd to run my code. Just now I figured that SyncFW may also do that maybe in a more natural way14:12
artemmanever heard about woodchuck14:12
nealartemma: alarmd only schedules things based on time14:12
nealartemma: woodchuck schedules things based on network availability14:12
artemmaneal, yeah, I am thinking about downloading image once a day or so14:12
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nealartemma: Like alarmd, it will automatically start a program when appropriate.14:13
artemmaoh, that's 3rd party stuff14:13
nealartemma: It's available for Harmattan14:14
nealartemma: Is that bad?14:14
artemmaoh, you need to install it to the device yourself14:14
nealartemma: At the moment14:15
artemmaneal, 3rd party isn't bad, not guaranteed maintenance is bad :)14:15
nealartemma: I'm working on getting it in the community repository and hopefully the ovi store14:15
artemmaplus anything that can't be installed togather with my app from ovi store is a clear no fo14:15
artemmano go14:15
nealartemma: Hmm, that's true.14:15
artemmaI do like the idea of network aware scheduler14:15
artemmaindeed, that is just what i need14:16
nealartemma: It's easy to make Woodchuck a soft dependency14:16
artemmabut it has to be installable together with my app otherwise it's useless for the user14:16
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nealartemma: So you only use it if it is installed and fallback to your alarmd framework if it is not installed.14:16
artemmaand how many users would have it installed? :)14:16
artemmamy app isn't exactly for geeks14:16
DocScrutinizernow that's probably complete overkill14:17
nealartemma: As it gains in popularity, more people will install it :)14:17
artemmadefinitely! As it gains in popularity I will definitely think about using it :)14:17
nealdamn :)14:17
DocScrutinizerthe problem is more like there's obviously no way yet to depend on other - possibly middleware type - stuff, so each app has to reinvent the wheel14:17
artemmagood luck with the project regardless of the humor14:18
artemmait's useful functionality that would definitely be welcome by my project14:18
artemmaI just can't use it if it's not installed with my app from ovi store14:18
nealartemma: Like I said, you can detect at runtime if it is available.14:18
DocScrutinizerneal: that won't help14:19
artemmaneal as I can detect dozens of other schedulers :)14:19
nealDocScrutinizer: Why not?14:19
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nealartemma: Are there others?14:19
* artemma can't find the TransferUI example14:19
DocScrutinizeryou don't want to support and maintain two competing methods to implement same functionality14:19
nealartemma: I'm not aware of any other schedulers like Woodchuck14:19
artemmasorry, neal, I am consumerist about API use. If I can't use it now, I have to search for somethign else14:19
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artemmaI really want to finish by N9 sales start14:20
nealWhat runtime environment are you using? Python?14:20
artemmaand until end of year amount of Woodchuck users is going to be about zero14:21
artemmaneal, just Qt/QML14:21
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artemmadamned, there's Transfer UI api relatively well documented, but without a single example14:21
artemmaI've seen the same with alarmd14:21
artemmais it the Harmattan standard style of documentation?14:22
nealDocScrutinizer: Perhaps the right approach is to have a slim implementation based on alarmd, which can be source copied, and is used if the Woodchuck daemon is not available.14:24
nealDocScrutinizer: Do you think that could be successful?14:25
artemmaSome Android apps are able to download dependencies from Market on 1st start14:25
artemmacan UI initiate the download of Woodchuck from ovi store?14:26
DocScrutinizergiven woodchunk is implementing another functionality than alarmd, I'd think it'd be kinda reasonable here14:26
artemmalike button somewhere in UI: click it to download library that would allow for downloads on wifi only14:26
DocScrutinizertha'd be the obvious and clean approach14:26
DocScrutinizerwell, almost as clean as a proper centralized repo14:27
nealDocScrutinizer: Yeah, except every application includes it and you don't get synergenic effects :(14:27
DocScrutinizersure, that's been my initial point14:28
nealsorry, I guess I misunderstood.14:28
DocScrutinizerit all boils down to "don't link statically when you got"14:30
DocScrutinizerwhere "" stands as a token for arbitrary shared possibly middleware pkgs14:31
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evilJazzDoes anyone of you know how to unlock the screen programmatically? I tried MeeGo::QmLocks but the mce::TKLockControl token is denied -> denied 'mce::TKLockControl' -- origin '' does not allow it14:31
evilJazzPerhaps via DBus?14:31
DocScrutinizerI'd think yes via dbus, but to mce ;-)14:33
DocScrutinizerso same missing token will hit you again14:34
SpeedEvilevilJazz: There is a set of credentials that self-signed apps can have. Maybe clock control isn't one of them14:34
MohammadAGevilJazz, you can't request any mce:: tokens14:35
MohammadAGthey can devastate the user's personal life14:35
DocScrutinizerwell, if mce::LEDpattern isn't available, why should mce::TKLockControl be available?14:36
SpeedEvilAd also the LED can start ragnarok.14:36
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evilJazzokay, thanks. This security cr*p is really starting to get on my nerves.14:37
SpeedEvilCan ovi store apps request mce tokens?14:37
DocScrutinizerwho knows?14:37
DocScrutinizeraaah, there's a file with a policy, no?14:38
evilJazzIf ovi store apps can I really wonder how on earth a developer should test the feature in the first place if not by hacking the device.14:39
DocScrutinizeraiui developer-mode is about origin-anonymous being able to request same tokens as OVI14:40
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DocScrutinizer(plus a few tools being available in devel-mode only)14:40
DocScrutinizerso the answer probably is "No, the LED and locking are property of Nokia, even when you paid for the device"14:41
evilJazzyeah, too bad14:42
DocScrutinizeractually I guess the only way for you to own those is to get a device you don't have to pay for ;-)14:42
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artemmahmm, my MNotification is published, but nothing is visible on screen :/14:44
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MohammadAG        MNotification notification("sociality-notification", "Facebook", item->text());14:45
MohammadAG        notification.setImage(item->absoluteImagePath());14:45
MohammadAG        notification.publish();14:45
MohammadAGartemma, that works fine for me ^14:45
evilJazzthanks for the clarification, guys. Guess the AVRCP support in my app will have to do without this feature for now, meh14:45
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artemmathat's waht I do, MohammadAG  Must be a stupid typo somewhere14:46
artemmait should work without image as well, shouldn't it?14:46
artemmaMNotification startingNote( MNotification::TransferEvent, "Starting Wallpaper download");14:46
artemma    startingNote.publish();14:46
artemmaI am copy-pasting your code14:47
artemmawill see14:47
MohammadAGartemma, MNotification is the events notification thing14:49
MohammadAGis that what you want?14:50
MohammadAGcause I don't see a reason for that to persist14:50
artemmajust want to notify about that new wallpaper is installed14:50
artemmawell, maybe I'll change it into event feed later, but for not simple notification feels better to me14:51
MohammadAGthat is an event feed14:51
MohammadAGthis'll show like an SMS14:51
MohammadAGon the lockscreen + events view14:51
artemmaok, looks like my project wasn't actually rebuilt for some reason - so I didn't see anything14:51
artemmaMohammadAG: that is something I am not very clear yet14:52
artemmayou know, renewed wallpaper isn't a critical event14:52
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artemmaand u'll see it on lock screen anyway14:52
MohammadAGartemma, use MBanner14:52
MohammadAG    MBanner *banner = new MBanner();14:52
MohammadAG    banner->setStyleName(MBannerType::ShortEventBanner);14:52
MohammadAG    banner->setTitle(tr("Check into %1").arg(name));14:52
MohammadAG    banner->appear(scene(), MSceneWindow::DestroyWhenDone);14:52
artemmait's if you are in the other apps14:52
artemmadownload can take seconds14:52
artemmauser may be in another screen already14:53
artemmaand in the future I want download happen on schedule, without any ui at all14:53
artemmaexcept for Transfer Ui maybe14:53
artemmaMBanner won't work out of my app14:54
MohammadAGthis shows in the status bar14:54
artemmaOK, I've got my MNotification. Well, with just text it looks too subtle..14:55
artemmaMBanner is said to work only inside your app14:55
MohammadAGdoubt it14:55
MohammadAGI don't have my N950 yet14:55
MohammadAGand it doesn't seem they shipped the replacement...14:55
leinirHey, anybody figured out how to do that bouncy thing that alarms and incoming calls use?14:55
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MohammadAGfound some pointers once14:56
artemmaUse MBanner class to launch in-process notifications. Use MNotification class to launch out-of-process system level notifications.14:56
artemma"Use MBanner class to launch in-process notifications. Use MNotification class to launch out-of-process system level notifications."14:56
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MohammadAGleinir, strings /usr/bin/system-ui14:56
MohammadAGout-of-process = DBus14:56
leinirMohammadAG: Hmm... funky, thanks, i'll have a look :)14:56
artemmaHmm, I see my MNotifications on lock screen as well14:57
MohammadAGI've said that like a hundred times14:57
MohammadAGMNotification is for that, things like SMS etc14:57
artemmaMohammadAG: I was sure you were talking about event feed14:57
MohammadAGnot notifications14:57
artemmalike MEventFeed14:57
MohammadAGerr, not temporary notifications14:57
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MohammadAGartemma, try MBanner14:58
artemmaok, trying now14:58
MohammadAGwith MBannerType::ShortEventBanner14:58
MohammadAGlook at widgets gallery too14:58
MohammadAGit shows you the different types of notifications14:58
artemmait needs some MSceneWindow15:00
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artemmaok, MApplication::activeWindow()->scene() may help15:02
MohammadAGthat may be null :P15:03
artemmayep, information banner looks like the style I am looking for15:03
artemmaactuallactually null didn't work (there are two variants for the function)15:04
artemmaI had to cast null to MWindow :)15:05
artemmajust changed it to graphics scene as MWindow option is not recommended :)15:07
MohammadAGanyway, I'm off to study15:08
artemmabut it doesn't work anyway15:08
artemmaok, thanks for help15:08
artemmaI'll study more15:08
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Venemo_N950hey guys15:36
nealwhat document lists the requirement that applications submitted to the ovi store can't include external dependencies?15:40
Venemo_N950neal, I'm not aware of such requirement15:41
nealthat seemed to be what DocScrutinizer and artemma were suggesting... Hmm.15:43
jreznikat least some packages in ovi asks for another deps15:47
SpeedEvilIndeed they do15:48
SpeedEvilI had that yesterday15:48
artemmai don't know anything about dependencies download15:50
artemmaand that actually was my whole point :)15:50
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nealok, thanks15:54
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Andy1210Is there any way to put a virtual keyboard on SDL game? I ported Rocks'n'Diamonds, but now it can be played only with keyboard...16:03
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MohammadAGnaw, I'm getting my replacement sent tomorrow :(16:08
MohammadAGguess I'll get it on monday16:08
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svuorelahi peoples. is the following failures when flashing a n950 'normal' ?
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kimjusvuorela, use the quick-erase flasher when upgrading from 2011.15-716:14
kimjuthere was one for 22-6 at least, not sure if there is one for 34-2.16:15
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svuorelakimju: there doesn't seem to be one.16:16
svuorelakimju: ...or should I do the upgrade in two steps, first to 22-6 and then to 34-2 ?16:18
kimjueven with 22-6 you'll probably need the quick-erase ocf.16:19
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svuorelakimju: is that available somewhere ?16:21
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kimjuit was, before the 34-2 superseded it. someone probably has it still, I've already deleted it.16:25
griMohammadAG, sent in my laptop today ? far more depressing than only missing the n950 ...16:26
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* artemma is trying to figure out MNotificationGroup If I just setGroup, something is published, but without any text16:39
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svuorelakimju: thanks for the hints anyways. I just made it \o/ (extracted it, didn't do secure deliting, flashed manually)16:42
svuorelamaybe I violated a eula or something, so don't tell anyone16:42
artemmafunny, MGroupNotification is visible on the lock screen, but it doesn't show notifications inside it, only the time of the latest event16:43
artemmaok, then I'll go for just MBanner for now probably16:45
artemmaWhen I am getting scene from QDeclarativeView and try using it I get something like Scene Manager not set. How do I set it? Should I set it is I just want to show info banner?16:45
leinirMohammadAG: just tried doing that - i don't seem to have /use/bin/system-ui...16:47
leinir(strings also seems to not exist on the device)16:48
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artemmahmm, I fail to publish events using MEventFeed16:55
artemmaah, stupid me, wrong sign in a result check16:55
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artemmacan I specify url to image (in file system) so that it's opened by gallery?17:01
artemmaby default QDesktopServices open local image in the browser17:01
artemmais there a way to read all url handlers? There may be something for gallery17:02
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MohammadAGleinir, xprop, then touch the lockscreen17:09
MohammadAGit might be sysuid17:10
MohammadAGartemma, normal exec might work17:10
MohammadAGimage-viewer /path/to/image17:10
artemmaMohammadAG: do you mean that exec can be a part or url?17:11
MohammadAGI mean /usr/bin/image-viewer /path/to/image with QProcess17:11
artemmaMEventFeed needs url17:11
artemmacertainly i can create my own handler and then redirect to imageviewer17:12
artemmabut I hoped for built in handler17:12
artemmayep, QUrl17:12
MohammadAGQUrl("/path/to/file") returns a URL17:12
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Venemo_webchathey guys :)17:12
artemmaMohammadAG: true, but then DesktopServices open such url in the browser17:15
artemmaunless there is a handler registered17:15
MohammadAGurl  the url to be executed when item is clicked. Executed action for URL is the default action provided by libcontentaction for the URL's scheme.17:15
artemmaso I wonder if there's a scheme for image viewer17:16
MohammadAGthat's dumb17:16
MohammadAGah, it may be using QDesktopServices::openUrl()17:16
artemmaI believe so17:16
artemmanot that bad idea IMHO17:17
artemmaI just can't see a list of bult-in handlers anywhere :)17:17
MohammadAGwhat libcontent*.so files are there in /usr/lib?17:18
artemmawill check now17:20
artemmaonly libcontentaction and libcontentmanager :)17:21
MohammadAGstring libcontentaction and look for a path17:25
artemmayou mean like cat?17:25
MohammadAGpart of package binutils17:26
MohammadAGit's like cat but removes the binary nonsense :p17:26
artemmanever used it17:26
MohammadAGgood time to start then17:27
artemma /usr/bin/strings ?17:27
MohammadAGstrings /usr/lib/libcontentaction.so17:27
artemmaoh, I don't have it17:27
artemmaprobably need to install some developer tools17:27
MohammadAGapt-get install binutils17:27
artemmaso funny, apt-get talks Ukrainian to me :)17:33
artemmaphone's language and location are set to Ukraine17:33
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matrixxartemma: can you also answer in Ukraine when it asks if you want to install the updates or not?17:52
matrixxat least that feature is not working in finnish :(17:52
MohammadAGjust hit enter without Y/n17:53
MohammadAGor use apt-get --yes --force-yes17:53
matrixxyeah I know it works that way :)17:54
matrixxI created a bug about language specifics not working17:54
matrixxjust wanted to know if the same problem is also on other languages than in finnish17:55
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MohammadAGit's an apt upstream bug I think17:58
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artemmamatrixx: I didn't try replying in Ukrainian :) will try next time18:23
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macmaNhas really nothing been said here for 2 hours?20:33
SpeedEvilAw - you broke it20:33
ieatlintyou ruined it by letting him know that his connection/client wasn't screwed20:34
SpeedEvilBut maybe I'm really just covering the exciting conversation of the last couple of hours that he missed.20:35
DocScrutinizer[CTCP-QUERY] CTCP-MUHAHA20:35
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DocScrutinizerlet's see what color the N9 will have20:37
DocScrutinizeras it's dedicated for resolving hw-questions, I think disassembling is probably one of the first things to do with it :-D20:38
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ieatlinti think disassembling it will be more difficult than most phones20:38
DocScrutinizeryep, probably20:38
ieatlintas i understand, you remove two screws on the top of the device, and then the screen pops up20:39
DocScrutinizerbut we got L1_2 Service Manual, no?20:39
ieatlintyou have an n9 on the way?20:39
DocScrutinizerwell, the virtual part is on the way, yes20:39
DocScrutinizerQuim forwarded my data to "the source" XD20:40
ieatlintaww... i need to go beg him for one20:40
ieatlinti saw him on monday too20:40
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crevetorTricky lighting huh ?21:03
crevetorthe 2nd one was taken with my N95021:03
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