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| DocScrutinizer | busybox find :-P | 00:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~messybox | 00:14 |
| infobot | messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils | 00:14 |
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| ieatlint | yeah, well, it's a pretty critical issue... i have 3 different harmattan release toolchains installed, and all 3 give the same error | 00:20 |
| ieatlint | remove the addFiles.path line, and it'll create the debian package without issue | 00:21 |
| alterego | ieatlint: can I see your .pro file plox :) | 00:21 |
| ieatlint | http://pastebin.com/fkCarHpP | 00:23 |
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| ieatlint | has anyone played with MEventFeed in harmattan? i can publish items to it no problem, but the action for clicking on it can only be specified as a QUrl... and i'm wondering how to open my app via a QUrl | 01:16 |
| artemma | ieatlint: I'd be interested in the same. Don't know the answer unfortunately | 01:25 |
| ieatlint | perhaps i should just try file:// :P | 01:29 |
| ieatlint | nope :) | 01:31 |
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| berndhs | can you use a mime type of the file /data and associate your app with that ? | 01:38 |
| ieatlint | that would be a funny way to do it, and might require bouncing through the browser, but it could work... can you associate custom mime types like that though? | 01:40 |
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| berndhs | it goes through xdg-open or the equivalent thereof I think | 01:41 |
| berndhs | i dont know to what extent harmattan uses this though | 01:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | on fremantle there were services, like tel: http: file: whatnot, and some way to specify a "server" for each service | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think it was even in .desktop files where servers declared the services they were capable to handle | 02:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or maybe I dreamt all of that | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 02:14 |
| berndhs | ah, harmattan has xdg-open | 02:23 |
| berndhs | if you type "xdg-open http://foo.bar.net" you start the browser | 02:24 |
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| berndhs | and xdg-open mailto:bobama@whitehouse.gov gets you email | 02:26 |
| berndhs | not that it sends anything, but hey | 02:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mhm | 03:38 |
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| ieatlint | DocScrutinizer, berndhs, artemma yes, you're correct, the way to do it is via mime-types | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 04:51 |
| ieatlint | you specify a new mime type in an xml file in /usr/share/contentaction/, then set your .desktop file to handle it | 04:51 |
| ieatlint | so i just made a "lp-event:12345" scheme, so when you press on the notification, launches my app with "12345" as an argument to the app | 04:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | you're sure you need to care about setting the new mimetype in contentaction? | 04:51 |
| ieatlint | uh, no, i didn't test | 04:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think on fremantle that was done by some "magic" | 04:52 |
| ieatlint | will try without even creating the xml | 04:52 |
| ieatlint | the libcontentaction docs aren't the best :( | 04:52 |
| ieatlint | you are indeed correct, forego the xml file | 04:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Desktop_file_format | 04:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | MimeType | 04:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | Parsed by libhildonmime, this field relates the mime type of a file to the applications which can be used to open it. | 04:54 |
| ieatlint | yep, you add this line to your desktop file: "MimeType=x-maemo-urischeme/blah" and then "blah:" will open your app, and anything after the : will be an argument to the app | 04:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, dunno - maybe http://wiki.maemo.org/URL_Handler | 04:55 |
| ieatlint | if your app is already running though, it'll just bring it to the foreground | 04:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that's probably yet another problem, also seen when you invoke same app twice from e.g xterm | 05:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | something[TM] will notice the app is already running and will just switch it to front (not always obviously, there *are* apps that can get invoked multiple times concurrently) | 05:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | for those who can't it's probably that something[TM] that's responsible to make the original instance take the parameters from second invocation or via dbus or whatever | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | imagine e.g. notes - you wouldn't want a currently edited note to get closed and possibly discarded when somewhere else a mimetipe URI note:foobar gets invoked | 05:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so handling is pretty much up to the app | 05:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least that's what I'd expect to find | 05:06 |
| ieatlint | yeah... | 05:07 |
| ieatlint | well, i've been working for 11h, and managed to have a prototype board die on me today | 05:07 |
| ieatlint | probably time to quit | 05:08 |
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| berndhs | yeah quit breaking things :) | 05:09 |
| ieatlint | :( | 05:12 |
| ieatlint | i didn't do anything, i blame god | 05:12 |
| berndhs | standard procedure is to blame aegis | 05:13 |
| ieatlint | people keep telling me he does bad things as part of some plan that you're too insignificant to understand, so it seems to fit | 05:13 |
| SpeedEvil | Canada. | 05:13 |
| ieatlint | oooh, canada is a good one | 05:13 |
| berndhs | Canada couldn't break things if we tried | 05:13 |
| ieatlint | except inuit treaties | 05:15 |
| ieatlint | but those things practically break themselves | 05:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | oh, wasn't that the cherokee or cheyene treaty, or sth like that? | 05:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | "that's your land over there" ...5 years later "sorry guys, we found $RANDOM_VALUABLE_STUFF on/under your land, so it's not yours anymore" | 05:18 |
| ieatlint | we let them have casinos and alcoholism at least | 05:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, and those are both easy to move | 05:20 |
| ieatlint | if it were that easy to move it, we wouldn't have so many homeless alcoholics here | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | move over there, we already prepared that land for you | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E. we cut all the trees, dumped all litter we could possibly find, and of course eradicated all potential threats by animals | 05:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | (move) I meant it's easy to move the casinos and the alcohol supply | 05:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | to move the alcoholism you need to move the people, and that might be less easy | 05:27 |
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| berndhs | actually plenty of bears in Canada, and coyotes have been moving north for decades | 05:33 |
| berndhs | Coyotes are doing really well | 05:33 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:32 |
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| ieatlint | i'm excited to learn this day that the solicitor general of aruba is named "taco stein" | 06:44 |
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| Scifig | The ssh daemon on N950 is getting unusable. It was bad in beta1 for me and it became worse in beta2. ssh regular password authentication takes 5 minutes. Then it freezes when I type a command. | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | probably due to your wifi PSM | 08:38 |
| hiemanshu | hey people | 08:38 |
| * hiemanshu is off to dubai for the rest of the week | 08:38 | |
| Scifig | Stskeeps, I can ssh fine to N900 and my desktop fine. Only N950 is the problem. | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | Scifig: so, wifi power saving works by buffering up data at the wifi AP and n950 asking for it once in a while, so n950 -> outside is ok, but opposite isn't | 08:40 |
| * mja is off to N.Ireland | 08:40 | |
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| SpeedEvil | Powersaving is a complex and often misimplemented bit of the spec | 08:40 |
| Scifig | aah. Is there any setting to be changed to temporarily leave wifi outside powersaving? | 08:41 |
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| Stskeeps | possibly somewhere in battery | 08:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Don'tthinkso | 08:43 |
| SpeedEvil | that's power saver | 08:43 |
| Scifig | I have automatic powersaving selected when battery is < 20%. But my battery is now > 90% and is now being charged. Still ssh is freezing :( | 08:43 |
| SpeedEvil | Which tears down the connection if not 'in use' | 08:43 |
| SpeedEvil | It's nothing to do with wifi-psm | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | well, not sure where wifi psm settign is nowaday | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | s | 08:44 |
| SpeedEvil | I can't find it | 08:44 |
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| Scifig | Well, atleast for now I have changed "power saver mode" to off. | 08:49 |
| Scifig | SpeedEvil, In setting menu even I don't see anything related to auto-disconnection. Probably it is in some files or gconf may be? | 08:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | The automatic powersaving thing turns off internet interfaces if they're not in use | 08:58 |
| SpeedEvil | Wifi powersaving mode turns off the wifi radio reciever most of the time, only waking it up to see if there are new packets for it. | 08:58 |
| SpeedEvil | Sometimes - however - this breaks, and can cause either extended delaus in connection, or failed connectins | 08:59 |
| Scifig | My only problem is that automatic power saver is disconnecting connections even when battery level more than the set threshold. | 09:01 |
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| rantom | Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the N9 a pentaband (aka a Word Phone?) | 10:15 |
| rantom | s/Word/World | 10:16 |
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| matrixx | rantom: it is | 10:26 |
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| rantom | matrixx: Thanks | 10:30 |
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| * artemma just noticed that he cannot paste text into browser. Can't use google translator then.. Is it a Nokia's push towards the apps? | 11:19 | |
| rantom | artemma: Hold your thumb over the address-bar | 11:21 |
| rantom | "Liitä" (Paste) showed up to me | 11:21 |
| artemma | rantom: that would work for addresses indeed. However, addresses are exactly pieces of text where you need copy-paste the least as links in most of places are opened on click :) | 11:22 |
| rantom | artemma: Correction: you have to open the hardware-keyboard too | 11:23 |
| artemma | I am after text areas | 11:23 |
| rantom | oh | 11:23 |
| artemma | for addresses it works with closed keyboard too | 11:23 |
| artemma | OH!!!! | 11:24 |
| artemma | I can paste using Ctrl-V on HW keyboard :) | 11:24 |
| rantom | I can't :( | 11:24 |
| artemma | the first clearly superior point of N950 :) | 11:24 |
| rantom | ok, now it worked | 11:24 |
| rantom | I'd say that's a bug | 11:24 |
| rantom | Wow | 11:25 |
| artemma | more like a totally missing use case | 11:25 |
| artemma | there isn't even a ctrl button on virtual keyboard | 11:25 |
| rantom | You can manually re-type certain section of the URL if you hold your thumb over the URL, there's a magnifying glass appearing for it | 11:26 |
| rantom | artemma: I'd guess they'll add the Paste-droplet to the normal fields too | 11:26 |
| artemma | interestingly Copy also works with hw keyboard only | 11:26 |
| artemma | without it you can't even select text :) | 11:26 |
| artemma | well, actually even with hw keyboard u can select text only in text fields, but that's better than nothing | 11:27 |
| artemma | maybe they are just keeping some features down to leave some market for Firefox :) | 11:28 |
| rantom | Ok, I like the magnifying glass | 11:29 |
| rantom | Wonder how I missed it earlier, it works outside of browser | 11:29 |
| artemma | magnifying glass? | 11:29 |
| rantom | Type an url, go to the end of it and hold your thumb and drag it to the left | 11:30 |
| rantom | Don't high-light the url, it won't work then | 11:30 |
| rantom | s/won't/doesn't | 11:30 |
| Arkenoi | official Russia n9 launch event is tomorrow. I wonder if there will be new firmware soon as well. Beta2 is slightly disappointing. | 11:31 |
| rantom | artemma: Or for easier: type the URL, enter to that URL and then tap and drag to the left (again, no high-lighting) | 11:32 |
| rantom | Works in SMS too | 11:32 |
| rantom | Arkenoi: I'd guess that we'll have the new fw at the 13th | 11:33 |
| artemma | rantom: I see the glass, it can move the cursor and that's it | 11:33 |
| rantom | Since that's the "official" launch-date for N9 | 11:33 |
| rantom | artemma: Yes, that's what I meant | 11:33 |
| rantom | Helps a lot, imo | 11:33 |
| rantom | In SMS I was constantly erasing the mistyped text, now I can fix it with that | 11:34 |
| rantom | Time will tell which is better | 11:34 |
| artemma | rantom: for careful positioning - yes. I just still think that URL is the part whee you need it the least | 11:34 |
| artemma | for sms it's probably more useful | 11:34 |
| rantom | artemma: Yeah, that may be true. Happened to notice it in browser | 11:34 |
| rantom | But yeah, copy-paste could be improved and hopefully will be | 11:35 |
| rantom | I don't use them that often but without the hw-kb I'd be in afkward position when trying to copy-paste with N9 | 11:36 |
| rantom | "ok I need the hw-kb now.. oh, right..." | 11:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | browser simply missing the pointer-mode of microB | 12:14 |
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| MohammadAG | yeah, had trouble copying the address to ship the N950 to on the N950 | 12:45 |
| MohammadAG | was a simple shift + select on N900 | 12:45 |
| SpeedEvil | Ths UI is quite polished - but not very deep. | 12:47 |
| SpeedEvil | (... n950 latest - n9 may of course vary) | 12:48 |
| artemma | for start, there is no way to press shift-left on N9 virtual keyboard :) | 12:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Hit first use-case of capacitive annoying me. | 12:49 |
| SpeedEvil | minesweeper | 12:49 |
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| SpeedEvil | It would be a _lot_ easier if I could pop out the pointer | 12:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | And I now realise why angry birds launches as it does. | 12:50 |
| sandst1 | SpeedEvil: so you're playing Chuck Norris -minesweeper? | 12:51 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - my sim interactive balance requet doesn't seem to work | 12:53 |
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| kkito | hello | 13:34 |
| SpeedEvil | Perhaps kkito. | 13:37 |
| kkito | perhaps? | 13:38 |
| SpeedEvil | Meh. | 13:39 |
| artemma | what is the for API to show global notifications to the user | 13:40 |
| artemma | ? | 13:40 |
| artemma | Something like "download finished" | 13:41 |
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| artemma | and actually what is the most natural harmattan way to do it: to put note to notification stream or to show in the top of the screen note? | 13:42 |
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| artemma | Is MEventFeed the best way for this kind of notifications? | 13:51 |
| gri | artemma: MNotification | 13:57 |
| artemma | googling and reading | 13:58 |
| gri | those are the system-wide banners like "battery now loading" etc. | 13:58 |
| artemma | hmm, I can find it on google, but not in the harmattan dev library | 13:58 |
| gri | and also in other visual style "new sms" | 13:58 |
| gri | artemma: It belongs to meegotouch which is not included in the pretty harmattan dev library | 13:59 |
| artemma | interesting | 13:59 |
| artemma | well, I guess if there are system notifications like that, I should also be allowed to use it | 13:59 |
| gri | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta2/api_refs/xml/daily-docs/libmeegotouch/class_m_notification.html | 14:00 |
| gri | It's not forbidden to use meegotouch | 14:00 |
| artemma | thanks | 14:00 |
| * artemma is searching for MNotification usage example | 14:02 | |
| gri | if you want to stay in your program, QML also has a InfoBanner object | 14:02 |
| gri | but this is only visible on your application's screen | 14:02 |
| artemma | I think global notification should work better for me | 14:02 |
| artemma | I want to signal about download start/end. download can take time so user may exit app already | 14:03 |
| artemma | in the next phase download may even happen on schedule without any visible ui | 14:03 |
| gri | why not use the TransferUI? | 14:03 |
| artemma | transfer ui? | 14:04 |
| artemma | I've seen the topic in the docs, but didn't actually read it | 14:04 |
| artemma | checking | 14:04 |
| gri | then read it, I think that's what you want | 14:04 |
| artemma | oh, now I remember why I didn't read it through :) | 14:04 |
| artemma | the first page tells that you use Transfer UI if you want to present transfers to the user :) | 14:05 |
| artemma | doesn't tell about what the transfers are and why you'd like to present them | 14:05 |
| artemma | i thought it's about transfering between phones | 14:05 |
| artemma | like in Switch | 14:05 |
| gri | you can set descriptions | 14:05 |
| gri | the feed application for example uses the transfer ui | 14:06 |
| gri | the browser uses it for file downloading | 14:06 |
| artemma | hmm | 14:06 |
| artemma | I am doing more than just download | 14:06 |
| artemma | I download image, process it, set it as wallpaper and then I want to signal to user that new wallpaper is ready | 14:06 |
| artemma | indicating progress is also nice, but not mandatory | 14:07 |
| gri | so you could use both, transfer ui and notification | 14:07 |
| gri | being able to cancel a download as user is always nice | 14:07 |
| artemma | definitely | 14:07 |
| artemma | It may help simultaneous usage also maybe (when user wants to download 2nd image while 1st transfer is still in progress) | 14:08 |
| * artemma is searching for examples | 14:08 | |
| neal | artemma: Have you considered using Woodchuck to schedule the downloads? | 14:11 |
| neal | artemma: It sounds like it might be a good fit for your application. | 14:11 |
| artemma | neal, I managed to make alarmd to run my code. Just now I figured that SyncFW may also do that maybe in a more natural way | 14:12 |
| artemma | never heard about woodchuck | 14:12 |
| neal | artemma: alarmd only schedules things based on time | 14:12 |
| neal | artemma: woodchuck schedules things based on network availability | 14:12 |
| artemma | neal, yeah, I am thinking about downloading image once a day or so | 14:12 |
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| neal | artemma: Like alarmd, it will automatically start a program when appropriate. | 14:13 |
| neal | artemma: http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck | 14:13 |
| neal | artemma: http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck/doc/howto | 14:13 |
| artemma | oh, that's 3rd party stuff | 14:13 |
| neal | artemma: It's available for Harmattan | 14:14 |
| neal | artemma: http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck/blog/2011/10/04/Woodchuck_Ported_to_N950/ | 14:14 |
| neal | artemma: Is that bad? | 14:14 |
| artemma | oh, you need to install it to the device yourself | 14:14 |
| neal | artemma: At the moment | 14:15 |
| artemma | neal, 3rd party isn't bad, not guaranteed maintenance is bad :) | 14:15 |
| neal | artemma: I'm working on getting it in the community repository and hopefully the ovi store | 14:15 |
| artemma | plus anything that can't be installed togather with my app from ovi store is a clear no fo | 14:15 |
| artemma | no go | 14:15 |
| neal | artemma: Hmm, that's true. | 14:15 |
| artemma | I do like the idea of network aware scheduler | 14:15 |
| artemma | indeed, that is just what i need | 14:16 |
| neal | artemma: It's easy to make Woodchuck a soft dependency | 14:16 |
| artemma | but it has to be installable together with my app otherwise it's useless for the user | 14:16 |
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| neal | artemma: So you only use it if it is installed and fallback to your alarmd framework if it is not installed. | 14:16 |
| artemma | and how many users would have it installed? :) | 14:16 |
| artemma | my app isn't exactly for geeks | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | now that's probably complete overkill | 14:17 |
| neal | artemma: As it gains in popularity, more people will install it :) | 14:17 |
| artemma | definitely! As it gains in popularity I will definitely think about using it :) | 14:17 |
| neal | damn :) | 14:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | the problem is more like there's obviously no way yet to depend on other - possibly middleware type - stuff, so each app has to reinvent the wheel | 14:17 |
| artemma | good luck with the project regardless of the humor | 14:18 |
| artemma | it's useful functionality that would definitely be welcome by my project | 14:18 |
| artemma | I just can't use it if it's not installed with my app from ovi store | 14:18 |
| neal | artemma: Like I said, you can detect at runtime if it is available. | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | exactly | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | neal: that won't help | 14:19 |
| artemma | neal as I can detect dozens of other schedulers :) | 14:19 |
| neal | DocScrutinizer: Why not? | 14:19 |
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| neal | artemma: Are there others? | 14:19 |
| * artemma can't find the TransferUI example | 14:19 | |
| DocScrutinizer | you don't want to support and maintain two competing methods to implement same functionality | 14:19 |
| neal | artemma: I'm not aware of any other schedulers like Woodchuck | 14:19 |
| artemma | sorry, neal, I am consumerist about API use. If I can't use it now, I have to search for somethign else | 14:19 |
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| artemma | I really want to finish by N9 sales start | 14:20 |
| neal | sure | 14:20 |
| neal | What runtime environment are you using? Python? | 14:20 |
| artemma | and until end of year amount of Woodchuck users is going to be about zero | 14:21 |
| artemma | neal, just Qt/QML | 14:21 |
| artemma | c++/qml | 14:21 |
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| neal | ok. | 14:21 |
| neal | thanks. | 14:21 |
| artemma | damned, there's Transfer UI api relatively well documented, but without a single example | 14:21 |
| artemma | I've seen the same with alarmd | 14:21 |
| artemma | is it the Harmattan standard style of documentation? | 14:22 |
| neal | DocScrutinizer: Perhaps the right approach is to have a slim implementation based on alarmd, which can be source copied, and is used if the Woodchuck daemon is not available. | 14:24 |
| neal | DocScrutinizer: Do you think that could be successful? | 14:25 |
| artemma | Some Android apps are able to download dependencies from Market on 1st start | 14:25 |
| artemma | can UI initiate the download of Woodchuck from ovi store? | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | given woodchunk is implementing another functionality than alarmd, I'd think it'd be kinda reasonable here | 14:26 |
| artemma | like button somewhere in UI: click it to download library that would allow for downloads on wifi only | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | tha'd be the obvious and clean approach | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, almost as clean as a proper centralized repo | 14:27 |
| neal | DocScrutinizer: Yeah, except every application includes it and you don't get synergenic effects :( | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, that's been my initial point | 14:28 |
| neal | sorry, I guess I misunderstood. | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | it all boils down to "don't link statically when you got lib.so" | 14:30 |
| neal | sure | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | where "lib.so" stands as a token for arbitrary shared possibly middleware pkgs | 14:31 |
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| evilJazz | Does anyone of you know how to unlock the screen programmatically? I tried MeeGo::QmLocks but the mce::TKLockControl token is denied -> denied 'mce::TKLockControl' -- origin '' does not allow it | 14:31 |
| evilJazz | Perhaps via DBus? | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd think yes via dbus, but to mce ;-) | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | so same missing token will hit you again | 14:34 |
| SpeedEvil | evilJazz: There is a set of credentials that self-signed apps can have. Maybe clock control isn't one of them | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | lock | 14:35 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 14:35 |
| MohammadAG | evilJazz, you can't request any mce:: tokens | 14:35 |
| MohammadAG | they can devastate the user's personal life | 14:35 |
| evilJazz | hehe | 14:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, if mce::LEDpattern isn't available, why should mce::TKLockControl be available? | 14:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Ad also the LED can start ragnarok. | 14:36 |
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| evilJazz | okay, thanks. This security cr*p is really starting to get on my nerves. | 14:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Can ovi store apps request mce tokens? | 14:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | who knows? | 14:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah, there's a file with a policy, no? | 14:38 |
| evilJazz | If ovi store apps can I really wonder how on earth a developer should test the feature in the first place if not by hacking the device. | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | re-lol | 14:39 |
| evilJazz | hehe | 14:39 |
| MohammadAG | no | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | aiui developer-mode is about origin-anonymous being able to request same tokens as OVI | 14:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (plus a few tools being available in devel-mode only) | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | so the answer probably is "No, the LED and locking are property of Nokia, even when you paid for the device" | 14:41 |
| evilJazz | yeah, too bad | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually I guess the only way for you to own those is to get a device you don't have to pay for ;-) | 14:42 |
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| artemma | hmm, my MNotification is published, but nothing is visible on screen :/ | 14:44 |
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| MohammadAG | MNotification notification("sociality-notification", "Facebook", item->text()); | 14:45 |
| MohammadAG | notification.setImage(item->absoluteImagePath()); | 14:45 |
| MohammadAG | notification.publish(); | 14:45 |
| MohammadAG | artemma, that works fine for me ^ | 14:45 |
| evilJazz | thanks for the clarification, guys. Guess the AVRCP support in my app will have to do without this feature for now, meh | 14:45 |
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| artemma | that's waht I do, MohammadAG Must be a stupid typo somewhere | 14:46 |
| artemma | it should work without image as well, shouldn't it? | 14:46 |
| MohammadAG | yea | 14:46 |
| artemma | MNotification startingNote( MNotification::TransferEvent, "Starting Wallpaper download"); | 14:46 |
| artemma | startingNote.publish(); | 14:46 |
| artemma | I am copy-pasting your code | 14:47 |
| artemma | will see | 14:47 |
| MohammadAG | artemma, MNotification is the events notification thing | 14:49 |
| MohammadAG | is that what you want? | 14:50 |
| MohammadAG | cause I don't see a reason for that to persist | 14:50 |
| artemma | yep | 14:50 |
| MohammadAG | Why? | 14:50 |
| artemma | just want to notify about that new wallpaper is installed | 14:50 |
| artemma | well, maybe I'll change it into event feed later, but for not simple notification feels better to me | 14:51 |
| MohammadAG | that is an event feed | 14:51 |
| MohammadAG | this'll show like an SMS | 14:51 |
| MohammadAG | on the lockscreen + events view | 14:51 |
| artemma | ok, looks like my project wasn't actually rebuilt for some reason - so I didn't see anything | 14:51 |
| artemma | MohammadAG: that is something I am not very clear yet | 14:52 |
| artemma | you know, renewed wallpaper isn't a critical event | 14:52 |
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| artemma | and u'll see it on lock screen anyway | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | artemma, use MBanner | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | MBanner *banner = new MBanner(); | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | banner->setStyleName(MBannerType::ShortEventBanner); | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | banner->setTitle(tr("Check into %1").arg(name)); | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | banner->appear(scene(), MSceneWindow::DestroyWhenDone); | 14:52 |
| artemma | it's if you are in the other apps | 14:52 |
| artemma | download can take seconds | 14:52 |
| artemma | user may be in another screen already | 14:53 |
| artemma | and in the future I want download happen on schedule, without any ui at all | 14:53 |
| artemma | except for Transfer Ui maybe | 14:53 |
| artemma | MBanner won't work out of my app | 14:54 |
| MohammadAG | sure? | 14:54 |
| MohammadAG | this shows in the status bar | 14:54 |
| artemma | OK, I've got my MNotification. Well, with just text it looks too subtle.. | 14:55 |
| artemma | MBanner is said to work only inside your app | 14:55 |
| MohammadAG | doubt it | 14:55 |
| MohammadAG | I don't have my N950 yet | 14:55 |
| MohammadAG | and it doesn't seem they shipped the replacement... | 14:55 |
| leinir | Hey, anybody figured out how to do that bouncy thing that alarms and incoming calls use? | 14:55 |
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| MohammadAG | found some pointers once | 14:56 |
| artemma | Use MBanner class to launch in-process notifications. Use MNotification class to launch out-of-process system level notifications. | 14:56 |
| artemma | "Use MBanner class to launch in-process notifications. Use MNotification class to launch out-of-process system level notifications." | 14:56 |
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| MohammadAG | leinir, strings /usr/bin/system-ui | 14:56 |
| MohammadAG | out-of-process = DBus | 14:56 |
| leinir | MohammadAG: Hmm... funky, thanks, i'll have a look :) | 14:56 |
| artemma | Hmm, I see my MNotifications on lock screen as well | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | wow | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | I've said that like a hundred times | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | MNotification is for that, things like SMS etc | 14:57 |
| artemma | MohammadAG: I was sure you were talking about event feed | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | not notifications | 14:57 |
| artemma | like MEventFeed | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | err, not temporary notifications | 14:57 |
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| MohammadAG | nah | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | artemma, try MBanner | 14:58 |
| artemma | ok, trying now | 14:58 |
| MohammadAG | with MBannerType::ShortEventBanner | 14:58 |
| MohammadAG | look at widgets gallery too | 14:58 |
| MohammadAG | it shows you the different types of notifications | 14:58 |
| artemma | it needs some MSceneWindow | 15:00 |
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| artemma | ok, MApplication::activeWindow()->scene() may help | 15:02 |
| MohammadAG | that may be null :P | 15:03 |
| artemma | yep, information banner looks like the style I am looking for | 15:03 |
| artemma | actuallactually null didn't work (there are two variants for the function) | 15:04 |
| artemma | I had to cast null to MWindow :) | 15:05 |
| MohammadAG | o_O | 15:06 |
| artemma | just changed it to graphics scene as MWindow option is not recommended :) | 15:07 |
| MohammadAG | anyway, I'm off to study | 15:08 |
| MohammadAG | bbl | 15:08 |
| artemma | but it doesn't work anyway | 15:08 |
| artemma | ok, thanks for help | 15:08 |
| artemma | I'll study more | 15:08 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hey guys | 15:36 |
| iekku | hi | 15:38 |
| neal | what document lists the requirement that applications submitted to the ovi store can't include external dependencies? | 15:40 |
| Venemo_N950 | neal, I'm not aware of such requirement | 15:41 |
| neal | that seemed to be what DocScrutinizer and artemma were suggesting... Hmm. | 15:43 |
| jreznik | at least some packages in ovi asks for another deps | 15:47 |
| SpeedEvil | Indeed they do | 15:48 |
| SpeedEvil | I had that yesterday | 15:48 |
| artemma | i don't know anything about dependencies download | 15:50 |
| artemma | and that actually was my whole point :) | 15:50 |
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| neal | ok, thanks | 15:54 |
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| Andy1210 | Is there any way to put a virtual keyboard on SDL game? I ported Rocks'n'Diamonds, but now it can be played only with keyboard... | 16:03 |
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| MohammadAG | naw, I'm getting my replacement sent tomorrow :( | 16:08 |
| MohammadAG | guess I'll get it on monday | 16:08 |
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| svuorela | hi peoples. is the following failures when flashing a n950 'normal' ? http://paste.debian.net/134298/ | 16:12 |
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| kimju | svuorela, use the quick-erase flasher when upgrading from 2011.15-7 | 16:14 |
| kimju | there was one for 22-6 at least, not sure if there is one for 34-2. | 16:15 |
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| svuorela | kimju: there doesn't seem to be one. | 16:16 |
| svuorela | kimju: ...or should I do the upgrade in two steps, first to 22-6 and then to 34-2 ? | 16:18 |
| kimju | even with 22-6 you'll probably need the quick-erase ocf. | 16:19 |
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| svuorela | kimju: is that available somewhere ? | 16:21 |
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| kimju | it was, before the 34-2 superseded it. someone probably has it still, I've already deleted it. | 16:25 |
| gri | MohammadAG, sent in my laptop today ? far more depressing than only missing the n950 ... | 16:26 |
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| * artemma is trying to figure out MNotificationGroup If I just setGroup, something is published, but without any text | 16:39 | |
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| svuorela | kimju: thanks for the hints anyways. I just made it \o/ (extracted it, didn't do secure deliting, flashed manually) | 16:42 |
| svuorela | maybe I violated a eula or something, so don't tell anyone | 16:42 |
| artemma | funny, MGroupNotification is visible on the lock screen, but it doesn't show notifications inside it, only the time of the latest event | 16:43 |
| artemma | ok, then I'll go for just MBanner for now probably | 16:45 |
| artemma | When I am getting scene from QDeclarativeView and try using it I get something like Scene Manager not set. How do I set it? Should I set it is I just want to show info banner? | 16:45 |
| leinir | MohammadAG: just tried doing that - i don't seem to have /use/bin/system-ui... | 16:47 |
| leinir | (strings also seems to not exist on the device) | 16:48 |
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| artemma | hmm, I fail to publish events using MEventFeed | 16:55 |
| artemma | ah, stupid me, wrong sign in a result check | 16:55 |
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| artemma | can I specify url to image (in file system) so that it's opened by gallery? | 17:01 |
| artemma | by default QDesktopServices open local image in the browser | 17:01 |
| artemma | is there a way to read all url handlers? There may be something for gallery | 17:02 |
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| MohammadAG | leinir, xprop, then touch the lockscreen | 17:09 |
| MohammadAG | it might be sysuid | 17:10 |
| MohammadAG | /usr/bin/sysuid | 17:10 |
| MohammadAG | artemma, normal exec might work | 17:10 |
| MohammadAG | image-viewer /path/to/image | 17:10 |
| artemma | MohammadAG: do you mean that exec can be a part or url? | 17:11 |
| MohammadAG | no | 17:11 |
| MohammadAG | I mean /usr/bin/image-viewer /path/to/image with QProcess | 17:11 |
| artemma | MEventFeed needs url | 17:11 |
| artemma | certainly i can create my own handler and then redirect to imageviewer | 17:12 |
| MohammadAG | QUrl? | 17:12 |
| artemma | but I hoped for built in handler | 17:12 |
| artemma | yep, QUrl | 17:12 |
| MohammadAG | QUrl("/path/to/file") returns a URL | 17:12 |
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| Venemo_webchat | hey guys :) | 17:12 |
| artemma | MohammadAG: true, but then DesktopServices open such url in the browser | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | ah | 17:15 |
| artemma | unless there is a handler registered | 17:15 |
| MohammadAG | url the url to be executed when item is clicked. Executed action for URL is the default action provided by libcontentaction for the URL's scheme. | 17:15 |
| artemma | exactly | 17:16 |
| artemma | so I wonder if there's a scheme for image viewer | 17:16 |
| MohammadAG | that's dumb | 17:16 |
| MohammadAG | ah, it may be using QDesktopServices::openUrl() | 17:16 |
| artemma | I believe so | 17:16 |
| artemma | not that bad idea IMHO | 17:17 |
| artemma | I just can't see a list of bult-in handlers anywhere :) | 17:17 |
| MohammadAG | what libcontent*.so files are there in /usr/lib? | 17:18 |
| artemma | will check now | 17:20 |
| artemma | only libcontentaction and libcontentmanager :) | 17:21 |
| MohammadAG | string libcontentaction and look for a path | 17:25 |
| artemma | string? | 17:25 |
| artemma | you mean like cat? | 17:25 |
| MohammadAG | /usr/bin/strings | 17:26 |
| MohammadAG | part of package binutils | 17:26 |
| MohammadAG | it's like cat but removes the binary nonsense :p | 17:26 |
| artemma | never used it | 17:26 |
| MohammadAG | good time to start then | 17:27 |
| artemma | /usr/bin/strings ibcontentaction.so ? | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | strings /usr/lib/libcontentaction.so | 17:27 |
| artemma | oh, I don't have it | 17:27 |
| artemma | probably need to install some developer tools | 17:27 |
| MohammadAG | apt-get install binutils | 17:27 |
| artemma | thx | 17:28 |
| artemma | so funny, apt-get talks Ukrainian to me :) | 17:33 |
| artemma | phone's language and location are set to Ukraine | 17:33 |
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| matrixx | artemma: can you also answer in Ukraine when it asks if you want to install the updates or not? | 17:52 |
| matrixx | at least that feature is not working in finnish :( | 17:52 |
| MohammadAG | just hit enter without Y/n | 17:53 |
| MohammadAG | or use apt-get --yes --force-yes | 17:53 |
| matrixx | yeah I know it works that way :) | 17:54 |
| matrixx | I created a bug about language specifics not working | 17:54 |
| matrixx | just wanted to know if the same problem is also on other languages than in finnish | 17:55 |
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| MohammadAG | yeah | 17:58 |
| MohammadAG | it's an apt upstream bug I think | 17:58 |
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| artemma | matrixx: I didn't try replying in Ukrainian :) will try next time | 18:23 |
| matrixx | :) | 18:24 |
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| macmaN | test | 20:33 |
| macmaN | has really nothing been said here for 2 hours? | 20:33 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 20:33 |
| SpeedEvil | Aw - you broke it | 20:33 |
| ieatlint | you ruined it by letting him know that his connection/client wasn't screwed | 20:34 |
| SpeedEvil | But maybe I'm really just covering the exciting conversation of the last couple of hours that he missed. | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | [CTCP-QUERY] CTCP-MUHAHA | 20:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | let's see what color the N9 will have | 20:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | as it's dedicated for resolving hw-questions, I think disassembling is probably one of the first things to do with it :-D | 20:38 |
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| ieatlint | i think disassembling it will be more difficult than most phones | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, probably | 20:38 |
| ieatlint | as i understand, you remove two screws on the top of the device, and then the screen pops up | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | but we got L1_2 Service Manual, no? | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 20:39 |
| ieatlint | you have an n9 on the way? | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, the virtual part is on the way, yes | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | Quim forwarded my data to "the source" XD | 20:40 |
| ieatlint | aww... i need to go beg him for one | 20:40 |
| ieatlint | i saw him on monday too | 20:40 |
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| crevetor | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/10/why-the-improve-camera-in-the-iphone-4s-is-good-news-for-shutterbugs.ars?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+Featured+Content%29&utm_content=Netvibes | 21:03 |
| crevetor | https://picasaweb.google.com/102325903426321851487/Backgrounds#5656728471687407458 | 21:03 |
| crevetor | Tricky lighting huh ? | 21:03 |
| crevetor | the 2nd one was taken with my N950 | 21:03 |
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