| neal | what's the equivalent of a Maemo 5 .install for Harmattan? | 00:05 |
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| rm_work | neal: AFAIK they don't have one or the ability to do anything similar :( | 00:13 |
| rm_work | if you find out, let me know | 00:13 |
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| neal | rm_work: Oh :/ | 00:16 |
| neal | rm_work: What's the right way to publish packages? | 00:16 |
| rm_work | :/ | 00:16 |
| rm_work | the "right way"? :P | 00:16 |
| rm_work | lol | 00:16 |
| rm_work | well, i think supposedly, into a PPA through meego OBS | 00:17 |
| neal | s/right/recommended/ | 00:17 |
| infobot | neal meant: rm_work: What's the recommended way to publish packages? | 00:17 |
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| rm_work | yeah, recommended is by using OBS | 00:17 |
| rm_work | what I do is just make my debs in scratchbox ALA Fremantle, and then publish them to the "public community repository" that I started | 00:17 |
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| rm_work | which is indexed by Packrat | 00:18 |
| rm_work | ~packrat | 00:18 |
| infobot | well, packrat is a cute little rodent that keeps everything it finds. http://www.ageofikon.com/prh/ | 00:18 |
| rm_work | also, you can publish to the OVI store | 00:18 |
| rm_work | some people have opted to do some combination of the three | 00:18 |
| rm_work | brb | 00:19 |
| neal | rm_work: If I can create binaries and publish them in a debian repository that I control, how does a user add the repository? | 00:20 |
| rantom | Someone downloaded the quicklaunch? | 00:31 |
| rantom | s/quicklaunch/shortcuts | 00:31 |
| rantom | http://projects.developer.nokia.com/shortcuts | 00:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | neal: rm_you: isn't the harmattan way of .install simply called OVI-store? | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, too late, rm_you already mentioned that | 01:34 |
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| rm_work | neal: i don't think it is possible to add repositories automatically. you NEED to manually edit the apt sources file | 01:35 |
| rm_work | neal: but if you figure out a way, let me know | 01:36 |
| rm_work | neal: that's part of why we are trying to limit the number of repositories | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | plus that's of course "unknown_source" | 01:36 |
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| rm_work | if there's one "main" community repo, it becomes less of an issue | 01:36 |
| rm_work | yes | 01:37 |
| rm_work | bbl | 01:37 |
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| SpeedEvil | A maserati colour-picker app? | 03:22 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:47 |
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| borco | hi | 07:31 |
| borco | i was just wondering these days - qt widgets based apps look horrific on n950, but they look quite ok on n900. hasn't anybody developed a qt style for n950? why do i have to use qml to make my app good when a qt style would be enough? | 07:33 |
| borco | has anybody made a qt style that make the qt widgets more like a phone app on n950? | 07:34 |
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| tomma | borco, easy way is to use stylesheet on widget based applicatin | 08:38 |
| borco | tomma: i am curious why was not this the default? | 08:38 |
| borco | tomma: having a desktop styleshit on harmattan sounds just a politic decision to promote qml | 08:39 |
| borco | stylesheet :) | 08:39 |
| sandst1 | borco: because qml does a lot more than just styling stuff | 08:39 |
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| borco | sandst1: have you tried to maintain a qml app for maemo, symbian and harmattan? so that you can publish in ovi? | 08:41 |
| borco | sandst1: i have a lot of duplicate stuff and hand coded widgets in qml | 08:41 |
| sandst1 | borco: umm. no. proper cross-platform support in qml is indeed a bit vague :) | 08:42 |
| borco | sandst1: maemo needs "import Qt 4.7" for example | 08:43 |
| borco | sandst1: as there is no #include equiv for javascript (there might be, but i'm a c++/python devel and not a js one, and i wasn't able to find that #include yet), i have to replicate many qml files just for that first line | 08:44 |
| borco | sandst1: then harmattan has "import com.meego 1.0" and symbian has "import com.nokia.symbian 1.0" | 08:45 |
| sandst1 | borco: import "xyz.js" as JS ? | 08:45 |
| borco | sandst1: even if it's a qml? i'll try it | 08:45 |
| sandst1 | borco: yes, you can import js to qml | 08:46 |
| borco | sandst1: anyway, to have my app work on maemo, with qml, i have to replicate by hand a lot of code from the components | 08:46 |
| borco | sandst1: k. thanx. it should simplify the code a bit... | 08:47 |
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| borco | sandst1: though i still feel like not having a proper stylesheet for qt widgets apps in harmattan was just a political decision to force people migrate to qml | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | nah, it was just buggy like hell | 08:48 |
| borco | Stskeeps: strange then. works with maemo and symbian, but buggy on meego... | 08:49 |
| w00t | it wasn't a development focus | 08:50 |
| borco | w00t: == it wasn't politically correct :-D | 08:50 |
| w00t | it's not a matter of politics, really, so much as that's where their development is heading | 08:50 |
| w00t | and where Qt's development is heading | 08:51 |
| sandst1 | borco: here's a good related text by achipa: http://achipa.blogspot.com/2011/07/qt-components-story-of-ugly-qwidgetling.html | 08:51 |
| Kypeli | borco: The N900 Qt styling was a huge ugly hack | 08:55 |
| Kypeli | borco: With QML and the new Harmattan UI, it makes no sense to have QWidget based UIs in Harmattan. | 08:55 |
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| borco | sandst1: that article ommits one thing - maintaining many ui's. if you have 1 or 2 screens, it might be ok, but to maintain and test on many platforms just makes it harder for the app developer. | 09:00 |
| tomma | you need to read archipas other posting about qml ui:s | 09:01 |
| borco | tomma: apparently so :) | 09:01 |
| tomma | oh it was that | 09:01 |
| borco | developing is always eays, testing and maintenance is what kills you :P | 09:02 |
| sandst1 | borco: yup :) | 09:03 |
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| borco | are you using any testing framework for qml ui's? is qtestlib working with qml? is something else (free) better? | 09:05 |
| sandst1 | borco: haven't tried test frameworks with qml. The QML profiler in Qt Creator might be worth a shot | 09:08 |
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| borco | bye | 10:01 |
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| thp | Jaffa: the article "Matchbox hacking enables title swiping" in yesterday's mwkn is about maemo 4, not maemo 5 if i'm not mistaken | 10:36 |
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| MohammadAG | yay, N950's in finland :D | 11:24 |
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| leinir | MohammadAG: Wooh! \o/ | 11:31 |
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| mece | MohammadAG, is that a good thing? | 11:34 |
| MohammadAG | mece, given I sent it back... | 11:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd more care about them sending a new one | 11:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | which is questionable to happen | 11:43 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, they told me they'll ship a new one after they get the device | 11:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm, fair enough | 11:44 |
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| kkito | hello | 12:03 |
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| augustl | hi folks. Are there APIs for doing stuff on the feed screen? I chose to hide twitter and facebook, so there's not much there. Would love to have my own notification-ish widgets there. | 13:37 |
| augustl | a widget for http://store.ovi.com/content/168442?clickSource=homepage&contentArea=home&pos=5 would be very useful, for example. And since it's time constrained data it sort of makes sense to have it in the feed. | 13:39 |
| alterego | augustl: check out the notifications api | 13:39 |
| augustl | alterego: ah, you can post items to the screen in the form of notifications? | 13:40 |
| alterego | I believe so | 13:40 |
| augustl | hmm, nothing about notifications on http://developers.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Category:MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan it seems | 13:41 |
| augustl | if a notification can be updated, I have all I need | 13:42 |
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| augustl | where can I find docs on notifications? | 13:54 |
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| RST38h | Moo all | 13:56 |
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| vladest | hi | 14:10 |
| vladest | trying to create harmattan buttons on n950 and getting the following: | 14:11 |
| vladest | file:///usr/lib/qt4/imports/com/nokia/meego/Button.qml:77:5: QML BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/meegotouch-button-background | 14:12 |
| vladest | what is wrong? | 14:12 |
| kkito | vladest: are you launching the app from qtcreator? | 14:14 |
| vladest | kkito: yep | 14:14 |
| deimos | vladest: try compiling for "Harmattan Platform API", maybe you are using "MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan" | 14:18 |
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| vladest | deimos: tried both | 14:48 |
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| snowpong | Summeli: leinir: re mp3, let's differntiate between frame size and frame lenght, frame length is the compressed version <- this one can vary. frame size is the output of samples - this one is constant | 16:07 |
| snowpong | Summeli: leinir: according to specs the frame size is always 1152 for mp3 - so I can't see that frameCount * (1152 / sampleRate) should fail ... oh well (off-topic, sorry channel) | 16:08 |
| Summeli | snowpong: ok :) | 16:09 |
| Summeli | it's nice to have standard frame size | 16:09 |
| snowpong | jupp | 16:10 |
| snowpong | same with aac actually, makes a lot of sens | 16:10 |
| snowpong | sense | 16:10 |
| Summeli | I used two different frame sizes in my vorbis impelemtation back in the university :) | 16:10 |
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| snowpong | Summeli: I'll figure it out :) | 16:12 |
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| Summeli | snowpong: should it be (frmecount * 1152) / sampleRate? | 16:13 |
| Summeli | or am I doing something wrong :) | 16:13 |
| leinir | i was just under the impression that vbr changed that considerably, but... yeah, i never did work on that stuff anyway, i just hang with the amarok devs :) | 16:14 |
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| Venemo_webchat | hi | 17:11 |
| djszapi | Venemo_webchat: o/ | 17:15 |
| Venemo_webchat | hey djszapi, what's up? :) | 17:15 |
| djszapi | in Oulu, it seems they liked the KDE Mobile presentation :p | 17:16 |
| Venemo_webchat | nice :) | 17:16 |
| djszapi | no tomato storms yet :p | 17:16 |
| Venemo_webchat | hehe | 17:16 |
| Venemo_webchat | that's nice to hear | 17:16 |
| Venemo_webchat | hm | 17:16 |
| Venemo_webchat | this is annoying | 17:17 |
| Venemo_webchat | I can't set up Qt Creator on my ideapad to connect to the N950... because the apply key in Options is outside the screen. | 17:17 |
| Venemo_webchat | f yea | 17:18 |
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| jreznik | Venemo_webchat: on Linux or Win? | 17:23 |
| Venemo_webchat | jreznik: MeeGo netbook. but I already figured out the correct tab order :) | 17:24 |
| Venemo_webchat | now let's see how fast the Atom can compile for ARM | 17:24 |
| jreznik | Venemo_webchat: usually in Linux alt + right mouse click and move solves this problems :) | 17:26 |
| jreznik | but not for meego ntbk... | 17:26 |
| Venemo_webchat | hehe | 17:26 |
| Venemo_webchat | thanks anyway :) | 17:26 |
| Venemo_webchat | what does alt+right mouse click do? | 17:26 |
| jreznik | Venemo_webchat: you can move window not only by dragging title bar but anywhere in the content of window | 17:28 |
| Venemo_webchat | jreznik: aaaah | 17:28 |
| Venemo_webchat | that's nice to know | 17:28 |
| djszapi | Venemo_webchat: ok, leaving to the social event, have a nice day :) | 17:28 |
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| Venemo_webchat | hm, too bad this is only a single-core Atom | 17:33 |
| gri | Venemo_webchat: Can't you move windows by holding ALT and clicking inside them? | 17:34 |
| Venemo_webchat | gri: nope, as jreznik said that doesn't work on MeeGo Netbook | 17:36 |
| Venemo_webchat | but anyway, one needs one tab from the left-side listbox | 17:36 |
| gri | ah, didn't see that | 17:36 |
| gri | I have a plugin on windows that I can also use the ALT-drag since my netbook always has the "buttons not visible" thingy | 17:37 |
| jreznik | it was really usefull on eee pc 701 :D and that made it unusable with windows :D | 17:37 |
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| Venemo_webchat | heh | 17:52 |
| Venemo_webchat | who uses windows on a netbook anyway? | 17:52 |
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| gri | Venemo_webchat: On netbooks delivered with windows, the battery time is much better | 17:56 |
| Venemo_webchat | yeah | 17:57 |
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| Venemo_webchat | well gri, this Ideapad had Windows 7 Starter on it when I bought it. it was SOOO slow that I didn't even consider leaving it there | 18:00 |
| gri | my eeepc 901 is slow with windows and linux :P | 18:00 |
| Venemo_webchat | heh, I don't know about that type | 18:01 |
| gri | not the newest model :) | 18:02 |
| Venemo_webchat | :) | 18:02 |
| Venemo_webchat | I considered the X101, but I chose a used ideapad instead | 18:03 |
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| Arkenoi | the only proper lenovo is thinkpad series because of ibm legacy | 18:03 |
| Arkenoi | edge and ideapad suck | 18:04 |
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| Venemo_webchat | Arkenoi: this one is working nicely | 18:04 |
| Venemo_webchat | anyway, ttyl | 18:06 |
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| Jaffa | thp: Thanks. /me blames the sub-editors | 18:15 |
| Venemo_N950 | hi | 18:15 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, apparently they're shipping the replacement tomorrow :/ | 18:19 |
| Venemo_N950 | MohammadAG, replacement n950? | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | ohnice | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo_N950, yeah, sent mine on sunday, it arrived in finland today | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | no not nice | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | I hope it's here by thursday | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | cause then there's that Israeli fun | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | aka customs fucking up my timing | 18:22 |
| spenap | MohammadAG, what happened with your previous n950? | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | spenap, sent it back, it overheats randomly | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | turned into an iven? | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | oven | 18:23 |
| MohammadAG | something like that | 18:23 |
| spenap | MohammadAG, I see. I wondered what happened with those with "broken" pixels | 18:23 |
| MohammadAG | and the LED sysnodes disappeared | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | eeeek | 18:23 |
| spenap | :-| | 18:23 |
| MohammadAG | leds working, but no sysnodes | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 18:24 |
| MohammadAG | anyway, it's at Nokia's now | 18:24 |
| MohammadAG | oh and I cleared the device before sending it, it bricked methinks | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | you shouldn't have messed with forcing the hw-rev to a bogus value ;-P | 18:25 |
| MohammadAG | I didn't :p | 18:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | in the end it thought it's an N9 | 18:25 |
| Venemo_N950 | spenap, mine has broken pixels | 18:25 |
| spenap | Venemo_N950, and are you trying to get a replacement? | 18:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | I suggest using a bull shocker, as a few broken pixels are for sure no warranty case | 18:26 |
| Venemo_N950 | spenap, yes, they said they'll gimme another. | 18:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | DUH | 18:26 |
| Venemo_N950 | I just left my devkit box at home, so can't send it back yet | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 18:27 |
| spenap | Venemo_N950, then that's nice :). "Mine" is still fine, but wanted to know how good is the support :P | 18:27 |
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| Venemo_N950 | spenap :) | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | meanwhile: I bitched at my carrier for over a week now, for 2G GPRS not working, while UMTS works fine. Now I realized the friggin N900 only needed a reboot XP | 18:28 |
| Venemo_N950 | loool DocScrutinizer | 18:31 |
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| briglia | somebody knows how could I fix the "Downgrade disallowed" issue when re-flashing a device? | 18:53 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm not sure you can. | 18:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | try coldflashing | 19:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually I consider "downgrade disallowed" another rogue move of Nokia | 19:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | in context of aeg... err MSSF-policy | 19:04 |
| neal | how do I publish to the community repository? | 19:13 |
| neal | I've read the landing page and followed some links, but I'm still not sure how to proceed. | 19:14 |
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| RST38h | well. moo. | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | m00 | 20:04 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps:Viva Mer! | 20:17 |
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| artemma | What would be .pro syntax for harmattan specific stuff? | 20:22 |
| artemma | I want to have CONFIG += meegotouch for harmattan build only | 20:23 |
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| MohammadAG | contains(MEEGO_FLAVOR, Harmattan) | 20:23 |
| MohammadAG | contains(MEEGO_FLAVOR, Harmattan): CONFIG += meegotouch | 20:24 |
| artemma | Thanks, MohammadAG ! | 20:24 |
| artemma | trying now | 20:24 |
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| artemma | oups, my problem was in some other place | 20:25 |
| artemma | but thanks for this syntax hint, it was welcome correction anyway | 20:26 |
| MohammadAG | oh sorry | 20:26 |
| MohammadAG | artemma, contains(MEEGO_EDITION,harmattan) | 20:26 |
| MohammadAG | http://wiki.meego.com/Porting_Fremantle_Applications_to_Harmattan#Harmattan_scope | 20:27 |
| artemma | thanks | 20:27 |
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| artemma | Why does QNetworkAccessManager and other QtNetwork stuff get linked fine when building for harmattan, but not for desktop or simulator? | 20:28 |
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| artemma | I kind'of expected it all to be controled by single CONFIG+= somewhere | 20:28 |
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| artemma | that is my actual problem, I get lots of undefined symbols for QNetworkReply::error() etc in desktop/simulator builds only | 20:30 |
| artemma | QT += network solved it, but the question is why I didn't need to specify it for Harmattan :) | 20:31 |
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| drf__ | hi guys. I'm trying to compile an application for the n950 which uses commhistory | 20:36 |
| drf__ | I've run out of guesses on what I need to do to do that. Qt Creator seems not to be willing to accept it | 20:37 |
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| alterego | drf__: accept what? | 20:39 |
| drf__ | sorry, not to detect it | 20:39 |
| drf__ | I installed pretty much everything in the harmattan APIs | 20:39 |
| drf__ | I see libcommhistory just inside madde targets | 20:40 |
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| alterego | Have you restarted qt creator? | 20:40 |
| alterego | And have you added the appropriate pkgconfig options? | 20:41 |
| drf__ | alterego: the problem is that in the installation there are no headers of CommHistory | 20:41 |
| drf__ | a quick grep through the installed directories shows that | 20:41 |
| drf__ | and the only mention of libcommhistory is inside of madde | 20:41 |
| drf__ | (dinner, brb) | 20:41 |
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| drf__ | anyway, simply put, I'm trying to build/run http://gitorious.org/n900-comhist-import | 21:01 |
| RST38h | oh, iNutballs are having a sabbath tonight... | 21:01 |
| RST38h | and they have already crashed engadget | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | that has got to cost them advertisement.. | 21:07 |
| RST38h | naaaah | 21:07 |
| frals | "Our engineering system has worked really hard at advancing the state of the art... it can now intelligently switch between the two antennas between transmit and receive." | 21:07 |
| frals | wonder if its advancing the state of the art in the same way as death grip did ;( | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | i think n950 has a death grip | 21:08 |
| MohammadAG | anyone got a metawatch, besides javispedro? | 21:09 |
| MohammadAG | Stskeeps, it does | 21:09 |
| RST38h | That antenna around the sides (which caused many users so much trouble) has been revamped and can intelligently switch between two different sets of anntenae on the fly to avoid dropping calls based on how you hold it. | 21:09 |
| RST38h | OMG | 21:09 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: i still don't understand that - i don't have problems :D | 21:11 |
| crevetor | If their claims for the camera are true it might beat the N9s | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | i'm waiting for the price, tbh | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | you'd think the iPhone 4 should do that crevetor | 21:11 |
| crevetor | :) | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | 5MP, 1GHz, 512MBs of RAM | 21:11 |
| crevetor | MohammadAG: true | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | and a more powerful GPU | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | intel -3.28% on stockmarket.. | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | err, | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | apple | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | 4S's a fail | 21:12 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: NO-STEVE | 21:12 |
| crevetor | Nokia had a shot at apple with the N9 especially in the light of the 4S. But they blew it :( | 21:13 |
| RST38h | Nobody has a shot at Apple | 21:13 |
| RST38h | Any *sane* exec should see that | 21:14 |
| crevetor | RST38h: in what terms ? | 21:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, I do. | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | crevetor, true | 21:14 |
| RST38h | crevetor: Apple is in the business of creating religious obkects | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, bastard | 21:14 |
| crevetor | RST38h: people would have said that about Nokia before 2007, things change... | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | see, times have turned :P | 21:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, you should get one. | 21:14 |
| RST38h | crevetor: Or has been, while Jobs was steering it | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, not that I'm not trying to :P | 21:14 |
| RST38h | Nobody could ever say that about Nokia | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | I opened a bank account, but it only has 100 bucks in it right now :P | 21:14 |
| RST38h | Or any other tech company out there | 21:14 |
| RST38h | Except maybe for the Sony in 70s/80s | 21:15 |
| MohammadAG | can put my money in it on Thursday, then I guess I could buy it | 21:15 |
| crevetor | RST38h: brand loyalty for Nokia was/is pretty strong (but maybe not religious-like...) | 21:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, do so | 21:15 |
| RST38h | crevetor: loyal != religious | 21:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just being able to read texts on your wrist is worth the price | 21:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | besides the other cool stuff. | 21:15 |
| MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, need my N950 back too :P | 21:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, boo | 21:15 |
| RST38h | General: Get the Arkanoid's Amazing Chinese Wristwatch Phone | 21:16 |
| MohammadAG | GeneralAntilles, is anyone making an N900 app? | 21:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | MohammadAG, there's a library somewhere | 21:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | but it doesn't really stack up against javispedro's work. | 21:18 |
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| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: you wanted to ask sth about the watch? | 21:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, are you having issues with the minutes incrementing properly at 60s? | 21:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's taking between 65 and 115s for mine to increment. | 21:29 |
| javispedro | ah | 21:29 |
| javispedro | I've noticed | 21:29 |
| GeneralAntilles | Toggling seconds display on will make it increment immediately, though. | 21:30 |
| javispedro | seems like if sometimes the "timer" that updates the display desynced | 21:30 |
| crevetor | alterego: regarding your tweet : have you found somewhere where you can buy it at all ? | 21:31 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, is the watch's software open? | 21:31 |
| javispedro | but yes, I've sometimes seen it that refreshing the idle screen causes it to suddenly increment the minute count | 21:31 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-WDS11x-IAR | 21:31 |
| javispedro | sadly, the btstack they licensed from TI, but someone's working on using a open one. | 21:31 |
| alterego | crevetor: well, expansys have it on pre order. | 21:32 |
| alterego | Might just get someone on FI to buy one for me and ship it. | 21:32 |
| crevetor | 6 out of 10 trending topics in canada are about this iphone event | 21:33 |
| crevetor | alterego: is that only in the uk ? | 21:33 |
| alterego | crevetor: I'm sure there are others. | 21:33 |
| crevetor | 64G black N9 yummy | 21:33 |
| RST38h | evening, javispedro | 21:34 |
| javispedro | evening | 21:34 |
| alterego | But that's the only one I know off hand | 21:35 |
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| crevetor | I'm pr-ordering there, cancelation is free so I'll see what I do when they have it in stock | 21:36 |
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| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: btw, have you noticed reduced battery life on the n950 while using sowatch? | 21:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Um | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Dunno | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | don't have a good baseline to judge | 21:57 |
| javispedro | Not sure if it's that or all those games from the ovi store =) | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | I didn't have GTalk working before | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | now I do | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Didn't use FBReader nearly as much before | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm lower at the end of the day that I used to be | 21:57 |
| javispedro | Well I'm talking of something spectacular | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | but it's not been well-controlled for SoWatch | 21:57 |
| javispedro | I got mine pretty much emptied in a morning | 21:57 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: energy profiler is useful | 21:57 |
| SpeedEvil | though bme-datalogger is nice | 21:58 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: not when you forgot to have a reference ;P | 21:58 |
| dm8tbr | dammit, still didn't look at that for liveview :( | 21:58 |
| javispedro | specially since the values between beta1 and beta2 have changed much... | 21:58 |
| javispedro | seems that energy p. on beta2 averages for a longer time when screen is off | 21:58 |
| javispedro | cause I'm actually getting _lower_ averages despite the problems | 21:59 |
| javispedro | (~10mA on screen off with wifi gtalk and bt) | 21:59 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, noticed the same | 22:00 |
| MohammadAG | beta1 lasted a bit more | 22:00 |
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| javispedro | wth apple, a voice controlled expert system? | 22:09 |
| * javispedro suddenly remembers certain violet-colored gorilla floating around the desktop | 22:09 | |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, watched Rise of the planet of the apes I guess? :P | 22:10 |
| javispedro | no, had to clean this from a system once : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBUDDY | 22:10 |
| MohammadAG | I liked that as a kid :p | 22:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | if you're desparately missing references - still on beta1 here | 22:16 |
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| MohammadAG | I'm missing a reference platform :P | 22:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | most probably this device will idle 99.999% now that I've learned it's more like a N900 than a N9 wrt USB | 22:17 |
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| ieatlint | what's the best way to deploy a file into /etc/init/apps? | 23:54 |
| ieatlint | via a qmake project file | 23:54 |
| MohammadAG | have the files in OTHER_FILES | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | and use | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | $variable.path = /etc/init/apps | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | $variable.files += files you want | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | INSTALLS += $variable | 23:55 |
| ieatlint | yeah, that's what i was trying, and now i get a weird error when qtcreator tries to make the deb file | 23:57 |
| ieatlint | "find: -printf: unknown option" "dh_installdeb: command returned error code" | 23:57 |
| MohammadAG | mohammad@mohammad-i5laptop:~$ find -printf | 23:58 |
| MohammadAG | find: missing argument to `-printf' | 23:58 |
| MohammadAG | you have some f'd up find :p | 23:58 |
| ieatlint | oh yay, go nokia :P | 23:59 |
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