IRC log of #harmattan for Saturday, 2011-09-24

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* mtd has python-minimal .debs with extra aegis perms, but I'm getting the "not replacing [existing package] from unknown origin" error from aegis when I install my signed debs...any tips?00:29
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* mtd guesses he will have to disable aegis unless someone has an easier way of replacing nokia-provided .debs.00:47
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Mek_uninstall the one you want to replace first...00:59
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mtdI suppse that shouldn't break too much...01:02
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mtdis it possible to set the 'origin' aegis checks when it installs a package?06:44
* mtd is getting Package python: denied 'mce::LEDControl' -- origin '' does not allow it06:45
mtdand similar06:45
mtdI found some references to SRC::origin in _aegis files, but nothing more06:45
mtd(in )06:46
KaadlajkI think it is only possible if you have RD certificate07:42
ajalkaneAnyone got the flashlight app thats been removed from store?07:46
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Kaadlajkajalkane: there is now phonetorch app which actually works08:17
ajalkaneKaadlajk: ah thanks, I'll check it. Not that the flashlight wasnt working for me08:41
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Kaadlajkajalkane: with newer firmware versions it did not even start08:44
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Daremonaihello, i'm trying to port my games from S^3 to MeeGo (Harmattan 1.2), I'm facing a few problems. I finally was able to deploy the app on the MeeGo device; but it didn't seem to be working well. First of all, it goes in Landscape mode even though i have: viewer.setOrientation(QmlApplicationViewer::ScreenOrientationLockPortrait); can someone explain why this is happening?09:20
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ieatlinti think harmattan apps need to use PageStackWindow { }09:26
Daremonaiso technically you can't use the same code for S^3 with harmattan?09:27
Daremonaiwhat about phonon, does it work with MeeGo?09:27
ajalkaneI think phonon was ported09:32
ajalkaneif you mean that kde stuff09:33
Daremonaiwell, phonon's one way to play audio on Symbian^3, and I was wondering if this works on MeeGo because even after it compiled. I ran the application, and it asked me to specify QCoreApplication::setApplicationName, so I did, but after that, I still don't get any sound output.09:34
ajalkaneoh ok, sorry don't know09:36
vladestguys, can you vote for:
Daremonaiis it possible to know from qml whether it's a MeeGo device or not? because the font size on S^3 is good, but on MeeGo, it's too tiny, i'm using pointSize in the QML Text elements09:43
ieatlinti don't know if there's a QML specific method for detecting that, but you could always use C++ to tell09:58
ieatlintalso, you may want to look at using a more scalable setup with pixelSize09:58
ieatlintand i'm not sure about whether PageStackWindow is required -- but strictly speaking, this also works on Symbian (it's part of the Symbian QtQuick components)09:58
* vladest thinks qml is too young to develop seriouse things09:59
Daremonaiieatlint, yeah i thought about the asking C++ for the platform.09:59
dm8tbrthere is this qmlinfo or so thing on
dm8tbrI think that can tell you pretty well what hardware etc10:00
Daremonaiieatlint: I tried pixelSize, it was still too small, technically i can just change the point/pixel size to make it bigger, but it's a pain maintaining two different UI versions (if there's no #ifdefs)10:01
Daremonaidm8tbr, will check it out, thanks10:01
ieatlintyeah, i've done relative sizes, like font.pixelSize = height / 210:02
Daremonaihmmm.. let me try that and see what happens10:03
ieatlinti've written a few apps that work using meego components and symbian components10:04
ieatlintand it scales pretty well about 90% of the time10:04
ieatlintthe other 10% does have to deal with the both the lower res of symbian, and the different aspect ratio10:04
ieatlintand it's annoying10:05
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Daremonaiieatlint, yeah, i bet it is10:05
ieatlint(and yes, the AR becomes a bigger issue, because in meego there is no automatic toolbar at the bottom, but in symbian there is)10:06
Daremonaiwell, in all my apps, i'm always fullscreening it10:06
ieatlintwell, good luck :)10:10
ieatlinti've been enjoying the new belle phones... loving the 700, but symbian is still such crap :(10:11
Daremonaithanks, i haven't gotten belle stuff yet...10:13
Daremonaifigured i'd port my games/apps to MeeGo... it's nice to have 'em there I guess10:13
ieatlintit's a fun platform for the most part10:13
ieatlintlooks pretty on the n910:14
Daremonaiyeah, the n9 is such a cool device10:15
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vladestieatlint: you wrong about symbian is crap10:55
vladestieatlint: i'm working on hard realtime project on both symbian and meego an symbain works much smoother even having 1.5 times less cpu and 4 times less ram10:57
griMy system hangs up completely when I switch from "dual monitor" to "external only" on my laptop ... anyone experiencing the same? I assume not ..11:01
ieatlintvladest: it wasn't a comparison against harmattan11:02
ieatlintsymbian is crap11:02
ieatlintit's the windows me of the phone world... symbian is about 14 years old, and has been patched and patched and patched11:04
vladestieatlint: why?11:04
ieatlintit was never meant to do 90% of what it does, most notably, touch11:04
ieatlintit looks like crap, behaves like crap, and the market has truly realized this over the past two years11:05
grivladest, ?11:05
vladestgri: can you vote for: ?11:05
vladestieatlint: funny arguments11:05
grivladest, I can but I don't think that changes something :)11:06
grivladest, Voted and Watched11:06
vladestgri: more vote more chances to be fixed11:07
vladestgri: great, 10x11:07
grivladest, But madde with harmattan target on linux is fast as hell :) If my laptop just won't hangup when changing resolutions or monitor positions11:08
vladestgri: I'm also building for symbian so, linux is not an option right now11:14
fralsvladest: the one thing that increases chance to be fixed is a patch, dont assume votes matters11:14
grivladest, Remote compiler works on linux when building for symbian11:15
vladestgri: yeah, but its requires constant inet connection11:17
vladestfrals: well, I have to spent days to understand what is going on there and how to fix it nstaed of do my own job11:18
vladestfrals: this is not new issue11:18
vladestfrals: same shit happengs when target is symbian 311:19
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vladestonly symbian1 and esktop works more or less ok11:19
fralshas few good points about votes in bz11:20
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vladestnice. found why qdebug stopped to work for me:
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Arkenoibtw my terminal got update and since that "alternate" meego terminal icon was replaced with red square11:40
grifrals, I have seen bug reports in the qt tracker where they denied a patch because of "patch is too big, no one wants to check that"11:40
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griwhich is sad but understandable11:42
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macmaNwow n950 found 4 devtools updates today12:19
macmaNand official foursquare app is in ovi store now12:19
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vladestmacmaN: only today?12:25
grimacmaN, Those updates are a few days old, I have no new ones12:25
macmaNok i havent had background transfers enabled12:25
vladesthow to debug qtmobility code on n950 device?12:26
vladestis there is debug versions of qt libraries installed on the device?12:26
grino :(12:31
grivladest, I found bugs in QtMobility but since it seems I can't change the version on my device I see no sense in trying to fix them12:35
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Daremonaiwhat's the event that gets sent when you switch to another app? QEvent::Leave? -- because that's what I'm handling, and yet the timer is still running and I can see it in the app's icon in the task switcher view12:51
Daremonaior is it like in symbian: QEvent::WindowDeactivate?12:53
griDaremonai, on harmattan? Using only c++ or also qml?12:56
Daremonaigri: yes on harmattan, i'm capturing it in c++ and sending a signal that is later caught in qml. I did not know that qml had something like that.12:57
Daremonaii had something like: #elif defined(Q_WS_MAEMO_5) || defined(Q_WS_MAEMO_6) --------- case QEvent::Leave --------- whereas for Q_OS_SYMBIAN it is case QEvent::WindowDeactivate12:58
Daremonai(the code works fine, as symbian handles it correctly, but harmattan doesn't receive that signal, meaning it's not capturing the right event)12:59
griDaremonai, in qml, this is handled by "MWindowState"
grithey fetch X11 focus events, seems to be a lot of work13:04
Daremonaihmmm, let me check the code13:04
griThis is the c++ code for the demo of "QMLComponentGallery" -> Window State13:04
alteregoThe focus events work fine in harmattan13:05
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Daremonai <-- this is the code that i have13:06
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Daremonaiapparnetly harmattan needs the WindowDeactivate, so removed the #ifdefs and it works.13:13
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griDaremonai, Are you sure the define is Q_WS_MAEMO_6? I haven't tried those ifdefs since maemo513:31
grihmpf, too late13:31
hiemanshuthere is no such define13:32
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rZZZrRST38h: hi14:41
rZZZrcanu check if that rl is still?in repo14:42
RST38ha moment, sshing14:42
rZZZrbtw i went to a nikia store in malaysia and they told me in a month14:43
Teo`I can't connect to twitter nor to my nokia account from the N950 with beta2 firmware14:43
Teo`is there a way to fix this?14:43
dm8tbrdid you reflash it yet?14:44
Teo`and I didn't restore a backup14:44
Teo`only imported my contacts from vcards14:44
dm8tbrno idea then14:44
rZZZr can use xmpp as fallback to xpost on twitter14:47
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* MohammadAG starts making an MP3 tag editor15:15
macmaNany suggestions for this:15:31
macmaNSep 24 15:11:35 (none) COMMHISTORYD: CRITICAL:  [35:858] Failed to save message15:31
macmaNi guess its a good bet why some of my messages are disappearing15:32
SpeedEvilmacmaN: Stupid suggestion. I assume there is lots of disk space?15:34
SpeedEvilI would suggest that you look in dmesg to see if you're getting any kernel errors, but dmesg is evil.15:35
MohammadAGis there a way to request a list of song files?15:36
MohammadAGI don't mind the tracker dialog15:36
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macmaNSpeedEvil: well dmesg flows to syslog15:37
macmaNonly interesting thing is15:37
macmaNep 23 19:46:57 (none) COMMHISTORYD: CRITICAL:  [57:652] "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Tracker1.SparqlError.Constraint: Subject `message:8' is not in domain `nmo:Call' of property `nmo:duration'"15:37
macmaN/dev/mmcblk0p3            2.0G     99.4M      1.8G   5% /home15:39
macmaN/dev/mmcblk0p1            8.8G      7.2G      1.6G  82% /home/user/MyDocs15:39
DocScrutinizerI guess dialogs are stored in one of the aegisfs anyway15:40
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javispedroI think I got incoming call notifications working o/16:15
javispedrothere's a undocumented contextkit property16:15
javispedrowhen ringing, it gives the displayName and state == 0 (which I guess means, "ringing")16:16
MohammadAGjavispedro, incoming call notifications?16:17
MohammadAGwhat exactly are those?16:18
javispedrowhen the ringing ui is shown, and when it is hidden16:18
MohammadAGOption -daemon debrecated, exiting16:19
hiemanshuask debra why she debrecated it16:19
javispedrowell, a breca is kind of fish16:19
javispedrotherefore, debrecated ~= defished16:20
javispedrowhatever that means16:20
MohammadAGso I'm using libcontentmanager16:20
MohammadAGneed to get a uri to a file, and it shows an empty list16:20
Arkenoistill no good latitude app for harmattan?16:34
hiemanshuthere are two updaters, but thats all16:34
MohammadAGSep 24 15:26:29 (none) mce[569]: mce-io.c:mce_write_number_string_to_file(): Cannot open `/sys/class/leds/lp5523:channel1/brightness' for writing; No such file or directory16:35
MohammadAGis it normal to have those in syslog?16:35
MohammadAGlots of them16:35
Stskeepsthat doesn't look good16:35
Stskeepsideally file a bug16:35
javispedroMohammadAG: never got that16:37
javispedroon the other side, I do get "Failed to close /sys/.../i2c-2/2-004b/wait_for_gesture: -EBUSY" from time to time16:38
javispedro(from mce too)16:39
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MohammadAGjavispedro, and you have your sysnodes?16:41
MohammadAGRM680-34-2_PR_RM680:~# ls /sys/class/leds/16:41
javispedrois this the device you wanted to return?16:42
Teo`I don't get this16:42
Teo`I've tried reflashing and a reset16:42
javispedroMohammadAG: so now you have some slightly more concrete proof that something is weird =)16:42
MohammadAGjavispedro, Jewish holidays not helping16:42
Teo`no backups restored whatsoever16:42
Teo`and still I can't connect to twitter nor nokia account16:43
MohammadAGpost office was closed when I got to jerusalem, and tomorrow I'm leaving to uni again16:43
Teo`any good ideas, #harmattan?16:43
MohammadAGI'll be back on Tuesday so I might ship it then, but Wed-Sun is another holiday16:43
Teo`is there specific stuff in /home I need to delete perhaps?16:44
MohammadAGjavispedro, how do I get the list of credentials my app's requesting?16:44
javispedroMohammadAG: what do you mean? if you are requesting credentials, you surely know what those are (you wrote them in the manifest?)16:44
MohammadAGjavispedro, yes but it's still an empty list16:45
MohammadAGI added TrackerReadAccess and TrackerWriteAccess16:45
javispedroif an app is running, pass accli -p $PID16:45
MohammadAGshould that take ages to return?16:46
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javispedroMohammadAG: forgot, you need to add -I there16:47
MohammadAGoh weird16:47
MohammadAGI ran it from terminal and it worked16:47
javispedroor search for you app in restok.conf16:47
MohammadAGjavispedro, it worked, but not through the run button in Qt Creator16:48
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MohammadAGbut ContentItemsPage is returning some ID, not the URI to the file :/16:48
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javispedroI don't know what you're doing, but it should not necessarily return a file url16:50
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MohammadAGjavispedro, I need to get a direct URL to a music file16:51
javispedroare you doing a tracker query?16:51
MohammadAGdo I need my own interface?16:51
MohammadAGI'm using ContentItemsPage16:52
javispedroMohammadAG: does nothing, where does it put the uri of the file I linked?16:59
MohammadAGjavispedro, M_OUTPUT_LEVEL=debug /usr/bin/mp3-tag-editor17:00
MohammadAGit's not my fault qDebug is suppressed by default :P17:00
javispedro--output-level debug is broken?17:00
MohammadAGnope, works fine here17:02
javispedroas said, that does not necessraily be a file url17:02
javispedroyou need to get the nie:url from tracker17:03
javispedropresumably, it should be easy to do from MTF..17:03
javispedrousing sparql, it's as simple as SELECT ?url WHERE { ?s nie:url ?url . ?s nie:isStoredAs17:05
javispedro"urn:uuid:95606fed-2eb8-90dd-....." . }"17:05
javispedroaka try tracker-sparql -q "SELECT ?url WHERE { ?s nie:url ?url . ?s nie:isStoredAs \"urn:uuid:95606fed-2eb8-90dd-.....\" . }"17:05
MohammadAGyeah, that worked17:06
MohammadAGI'm guessing there are headers for that17:07
javispedrosearch for qtsparql17:07
javispedroeither way, seems like overkill to me17:07
MohammadAGthere's libtracker-sparql-dev17:07
javispedrothere _has_ to be a way to get that info from the query MTF does, as that is virtually the most common usecase I guess...17:08
javispedrosadly, I have no idea, maybe email meego-handset..17:08
MohammadAGthis isn't a standard MTF thing17:08
javispedroah, it isn't ? :P17:08
MohammadAGit's librelevance :P17:08
javispedrowell, dunno, if you don't find another way, then17:09
hiemanshujavispedro: its qsparql17:11
MohammadAGapparently that's the way to do it :/17:11
hiemanshuand not qtsparql17:11
javispedrohiemanshu: the library is called qtsparql ;)17:12
Teo`it's called both qtsparql and qsparql in different places17:12
Teo`quite confusing, but the thing works so no biggie17:12
javispedroit's quite common for qt to do that17:12
javispedroe.g. qtdbus and QDBus*, etc.17:13
Teo`there's also libqtsparql-tracker17:13
Teo`with tracker-specific stuff17:13
* Teo` reflashing his N950 for the 4th time or so in hope of solving the twitter and nokia account issues17:14
berndhsoh this is special, I remove something from a .pro file, and QtCreator puts it back right before my eyes17:27
berndhscontains(MEEGO_EDITION,harmattan) { target.path=...... }17:27
javispedroqt creator _loves_ doing that17:27
berndhsof course what it puts there is wrong, which is why I remove it, but hey17:28
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macmaNTeo`: is all i can tell you17:37
Teo`macmaN: yup, I've just commented on it that a reset doesn't fix it either17:38
Teo`macmaN: do you know if it's possible to reflash to an older version of the firmware?17:39
macmaNTeo`: afaih yes17:39
macmaNi think my disappearing messages have the common characteristic that the contact doesnt exist yet in the addressbook17:40
SpeedEvilTeo`: I had that issue. Several reflashes with the last version did not fix.17:40
SpeedEvilFlashing the new one did17:40
Teo`I thought I might go back to the old version and then the new one again17:42
Teo`but I wouldn't want to brick my device17:42
SpeedEvilComments seem to indicate that flashing new without restoring settings may work17:42
Teo`SpeedEvil: I never even tried restoring settings17:43
SpeedEvilDid you use backup/restore?17:43
Teo`SpeedEvil: nope17:43
macmaNi wonder if me doing tracker-control -r (Kill all Tracker processes and remove all databases) has anything to do with my database woes now17:43
macmaNi wanted to exclude some music directories from tracker, afaik thats an age old way to do it17:44
Teo`it seems that the old firmware has been removed :(17:45
kimjudoesn't matter as you couldn't downgrade the firmware even if you had it.17:47
Teo`oh I can't17:47
Teo`kimju: thanks for the tip :)17:47
Teo`well this is frustrating17:47
GAN900Hooray, frustrating!17:48
kimjuI tested it yesterday to be sure, complains about downgrade not allowed and fails.17:48
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macmaNkimju: oh wow, ack.17:48
Teo`yay freedom17:48
kimjuand afterwards the device didn't boot until I reflashed the current firmware.17:49
macmaNcrap. i don't want to reflash to fix my possibly unsuccessful database reset.17:49
* Teo` headdesks17:53
Teo`I feel I'm wasting way too much time on this17:53
macmaNaccessing ovi account is totally key17:53
macmaNwithout location access you lose a lot of usefuleness and development capability17:54
Teo`macmaN: I know17:54
macmaNi am totally feeling it now that 34-2 fixed it for me17:54
Teo`macmaN: that's why I'm annoyed, 34-2 is just not fixing it17:54
macmaNfoursquaring here like a damn teenager17:54
macmaNTeo`: post-flash, do you have SIM in or not17:55
Teo`macmaN: I do17:55
macmaNok. there was discussion about the OS using SIM to encrypt the account data and themsuch.17:55
macmaNbut i guess perhaps you could try without17:56
Teo`macmaN: well it's always been the same SIM17:56
Teo`ok will do17:56
macmaNmost i'm loving about the upgrade is that pkgmgrd has been fixed in 34-217:56
macmaNapp installation works without issues now17:56
* Teo` yanks out the SIM17:57
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Teo`macmaN: no luck even without SIM18:23
Teo`I'm so annoyed, the device is half-usable this way18:24
macmaNyeah i feel you18:32
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macmaNi cant really figure out my commhistoryd fail, difficult to spread brainpower to the account issue18:33
* javispedro starting to think that qt is frigging great18:41
macmaNjavispedro: yeah? what was the trigger?18:42
javispedrodon't ask =)18:42
javispedro(but my idea is not actually start polling for X unless someone is really connected to signal X)18:42
artemmaWhy does nothing from meego middlewhere compile without problems?18:50
* artemma freaking tired bouncing its head against .pro files and configurations18:51
artemmaor is it specific to timed related branches only?18:51
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artemmawhy can't I #include <qmlog>?18:55
artemmaI tried building qmlog from scratch, and aegis fails to deploy it. I guess it means qmlog is already present on device18:55
macmaNSpeedEvil and possible others, are you receiving notifications from bugzilla?18:56
macmaNi am just now looking at my #234 bug and notice a hefty bit of discussion and ive been so accustomed to all my bugzillas sending me cc mails, that i never thought that nokia's wouldnt18:56
SpeedEvilSeemingly not18:57
macmaNwhadda fail18:57
macmaNwith elop in charge, im kinda feeling it doesnt help to even do anything about stuff like this18:58
macmaNam i totally off?18:58
artemmawhat does Elop has to do with employees not doing proper work? :)18:59
macmaNfish always starts rotting from the head19:00
artemmaonly if you wanna be aligned with that head and not with being decent ;)19:01
macmaNwell yeah, but i have no inside view on how many spined people there are19:02
macmaNand spine also depends on how secure you are with a number of vectors19:02
* artemma deleted whole timed from local drive yet another time19:10
artemmaHarmattan's cron19:12
artemmawell, kind of19:12
artemmaalarm and scheduling service19:12
artemmathe only code I've seen in years with cryptic variable names and two pages long methods in "example code"19:13
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MohammadAGnaw tracker on Harmattan doesn't watch files19:23
RST38hMohammad: Any way toreturn the original n900 camera app? as an option maybe?19:23
RST38hMohammad: I have just tried making photos with the CSSU one and it is screwing up hard19:24
macmaNMohammadAG: what are you talking about19:25
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artemmawhy do I see in Nokia SDK, but not corresponding .h files?19:34
artemmaor maybe that's wrong question to ask19:35
artemmawhat is the way for installing dev packages?19:35
artemmaI never did that19:35
MohammadAGmacmaN, I wrote an app to change metadata, it doesn't reflect the changes as quick as fremantle's tracker19:37
MohammadAGRST38h, apt-get install camera-ui=oldversion, off topic here19:37
RST38hMohammad: gotit19:38
MohammadAGhappy tagging
javispedrothinking whether editing the tags in tracker itself eventually causes them to be written back to the mp3 files?19:48
javispedrothere's a tracker-writeback daemon iirc19:48
javispedromaybe that's why they "don't get updated"19:49
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faenilgood morning everyone :)19:51
javispedrohi faenil19:52
faenillol I said morning, meant evening :D19:52
faenilhi javis :)19:52
faenilnice :)19:53
javispedrosandst1: graffiti!19:53
faenilwas it you that published that video demo?19:53
faenilthe one for 0.119:54
faenilprobably, yeah19:54
faenilvery useful :)19:55
faenildon't agree with the 2 fingers solution, but it's great :)19:55
sandst1faenil: yep, that was me :)19:56
faenilok ^^19:57
faeniljavispedro: what are you working on atm, apart from metawatch? :D19:58
faenillike what :)19:59
sandst1faenil: i actually started with >10 one-finger gestures but they got a bit too much in the way of normal usage, so settled for 2&3-finger ones :)19:59
javispedrofaenil: well, there are still a few things to polish with audio & the policy manager20:00
faenilsandst1: I see :)20:00
artemmaI can't simulate even calendar reminder anymore.. Used to be able to do it. Before Beta2 at least20:00
faeniljavispedro: oh ok ;)20:00
faeniljavispedro: news about kernel source? Not that I'd do anything with that atm20:00
javispedroother than "soon"20:00
faeniloh...well let's hope u're wrong :)20:01
faenilwhat if we all started working on CE?20:01
GAN900I hate that word20:02
faenilme too...20:03
macmaNoh sweet got my first "Memory low, close some apps"20:03
macmaNpretty much fresh off a reboot20:03
faenilI mean what if we all worked to speed up the dev of CE?20:03
w00tfaenil: already there, feel free to join in ;)20:03
artemmaI wonder why the system can't close some apps on its own when out of memory20:04
faenilw00t: sure I'd love to, even if I have no idea of what is needed there, and I probably need to study things :D20:04
w00ti'm happy to give things to do if anyone wants them :P20:04
faenilw00t: :D in my case, I probably miss knowledge, but I'd love to help if helped XD20:04
faenileven if I don't have much spare time atm20:05
w00tfaenil: pop into #meego-arm, hang around and start getting a feel for things20:05
faenilw00t: okay :) done ;)20:05
ajalkaneI think it'd be kinda annoying if the system started magically closing apps I'm using20:06
macmaNmeegoce telephony parts will work fine on n950?20:08
macmaNi remember on n900 there was lots of closed shiznit that20:08
w00tStskeeps is a good person to talk to about that20:10
snowponganyone played around making your app policy/resource aware? I'm trying to make my audio player play nice with the global volume and other media apps - and the docs are from 2010 and a bit dater :)20:13
javispedrosnowpong: what's the problem?20:15
javispedrosnowpong: also,
snowpongjavispedro: the problem is I don't seem to get told when my resources are lost, I'm listening to lost and released atm - maybe I need to look at destroyed as well...20:18
javispedrowell, resources being lost happens rarely20:18
javispedrowhat is your application class, "player"?20:18
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snowpongjavispedro: yes20:20
* snowpong will listen to all signals there are and see which are triggered20:21
javispedrodestroyed will not be triggered unless you're doing something wrong20:21
javispedrotry launching angrybirds20:22
javispedro(while you have the resources granted)20:22
snowpongjavispedro: good idea, at the moment I was launching video playback - and for that it didn't signal me anything20:22
snowpongbut I did loose audio in some conditions when I was in background and the video player was running20:23
snowpongjavispedro: do you know the difference between doing resouceSet->addResource(AudioPlayBackType) and resouceSet->addResourceObject(new ResourcePolicy::AudioResource("player"))  - to me they seem the same20:24
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javispedrosnowpong: with the later you can set up some settings such as whether which streams to associate with which class20:25
javispedrofor example, you are not saying the audio class is "player" in the former.20:26
snowpongjavispedro: ok, but I don't first have to set the AudioPlayBackType and then add the AudioResource object, I can go directly to setting the AudioResource object ?20:30
javispedrobetter create the AudioResource object, that way you can set "player".20:31
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snowpongjavispedro: that is what I'm doing now, and I'm also setting my PID on it and setting the streamTag("", "*") to cover any streams my app creates20:37
javispedroare you using pulseaudio directly20:38
snowponganwayws, I get resourcesReleasedByManager()20:39
snowpongthats probably what I should react to in some way...20:39
snowpongIt seems to mute my streams when I pause the Video player, if I resume video playback my streams are unmuted again ... strange20:41
DocScrutinizerfirst step on USB hostmode for N950: constant VBUS 5V established20:47
SpeedEvilPublish it!20:48
macmaNwinter is coming20:48
macmaNusb heating gloves ftw20:48
DocScrutinizerfor $1.99 ?20:48
SpeedEvilGo for it!20:49
macmaNoh sweet, found where to preload Maps over wifi20:49
SpeedEvilAh - that's what I was meaning to do.20:49
faenilwait wait wait!20:49
faenilI bought those gloves20:49
faenilthey SUCK guys xD20:50
macmaNme too, for moms20:50
faenilproblem is, they only heat one specific part20:51
macmaNMohammadAG: does skype gui have ability to add contacts on skype account?20:51
faenilwhich becomes warm, while the rest of your hand is freezing :D20:51
faenilbe back in 1 hour approx :) cya20:52
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macmaNcan the n950 queue emails sendmail style?21:12
macmaNfor example collecting stuff into emails from cronjobs, then sending them when connection becomes available.21:13
macmaN$ mail21:14
macmaN-sh: mail: not found21:14
macmaNi guess this is not very promising21:14
macmaNcrashing Maps doesnt seem to be particularly hard21:23
macmaNjust editing some favorites will do it21:23
artemmawhat would be the right place for asking about how to compile meego middleware?21:24
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javispedro#meego ? ;)21:24
artemmaoups, I didn't realize there is such channel21:25
w00tartemma: there's also #meego-arm, which is also useful21:25
artemmathanks, guys21:26
macmaNhmmm, is Navigate supposed to help you navigate on foot too? it's giving me Positioning You and then returns to Maps21:28
macmaNhrm, swiping left seems to have killed Maps again, so i guess it got into some wack state21:28
macmaNlol seeing "Unknown pathway" on route is always confidence-building21:30
dm8tbras long as it doesn't make you walk a motorway...21:30
DocScrutinizerI think as long as there's no decent GPS fix, it behaves weird21:31
macmaNok selecting car forwards navigation to Drive. i guess walk navigation isnt in the program.21:31
macmaNGPS icon is fixed21:31
macmaNunless its faking it21:31
DocScrutinizerI seem to recall it actually faked that for me21:31
macmaNright could be, since topbar shows fixed icon, but Drive keeps "Looking for GPS"21:32
DocScrutinizerthat's about what I recall as well21:32
macmaNill switch to 3G, maybe thatll help positioning21:33
macmaNyep, it did21:33
macmaNthere we go, walking navigate works too now21:34
macmaNvery cool21:34
macmaNi installed the Compass app today, very funky, kryptonite color scheme21:34
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SpeedEvilIt'd be nice if it had clinometer too21:38
DocScrutinizermacmaN: so you confirm there's a bug of some sort in GPS fix acquisition for navigate, and walk navi only works after you managed to convice the device to do a *real* GPS fix?21:40
macmaNpretty much21:40
macmaNreads like an accurate description of what just happened21:40
macmaNi mean if there were some actual notification "yo user, i failed acquiring gpsfix, pls forgive me" that wouldve made sense21:41
macmaNinstead it drops back to last screen like everything is normal21:41
macmaNmaps doesnt seem to have like a surefire indicator "we are currently still fixed really well"21:42
javispedromwahaha, metawatch already vibrating at incoming calls21:47
javispedroit even starts doing it faster than the n950 itself21:48
* javispedro is happy21:48
berndhsmust be those fast neutrinos21:49
javispedroberndhs: seems that there's a delay during phone# -> address book name lookup21:49
faenilahahah xD21:49
javispedroberndhs: N950 waits until that is done, but I start the vibrator before that21:49
dm8tbrjavispedro: cool, I'll _really_ have to steal your code then and look if I can do something similar with the liveview21:50
berndhsyes a reasonble explanation, spoils it completely :)21:50
berndhsraises a question though, what if the n950 doesn't find the phone#? does it still notify ?21:52
ajalkaneI sure hope not. That'd be like denial of service attack, alerting user of all kinds of unknown calls21:54
javispedrodm8tbr: the idea is that you have to implement this:
macmaNi really really dont remember a phonecall DoS21:54
macmaNlike ever21:54
macmaNbeing an issue21:54
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RST38hevening, javispedro21:55
javispedromoo RST38h21:56
javispedroand right after the call, you get the "missed call" notification... :)21:59
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