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| * mtd has python-minimal .debs with extra aegis perms, but I'm getting the "not replacing [existing package] from unknown origin" error from aegis when I install my signed debs...any tips? | 00:29 | |
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| * mtd guesses he will have to disable aegis unless someone has an easier way of replacing nokia-provided .debs. | 00:47 | |
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| Mek_ | uninstall the one you want to replace first... | 00:59 |
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| mtd | I suppse that shouldn't break too much... | 01:02 |
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| mtd | is it possible to set the 'origin' aegis checks when it installs a package? | 06:44 |
| * mtd is getting Package python: denied 'mce::LEDControl' -- origin '' does not allow it | 06:45 | |
| mtd | and similar | 06:45 |
| mtd | I found some references to SRC::origin in _aegis files, but nothing more | 06:45 |
| mtd | (in http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Harmattan_security_Security_guide_Aegis_manifest_syntax.html ) | 06:46 |
| Kaadlajk | I think it is only possible if you have RD certificate | 07:42 |
| ajalkane | Anyone got the flashlight app thats been removed from store? | 07:46 |
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| Kaadlajk | ajalkane: there is now phonetorch app which actually works | 08:17 |
| ajalkane | Kaadlajk: ah thanks, I'll check it. Not that the flashlight wasnt working for me | 08:41 |
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| Kaadlajk | ajalkane: with newer firmware versions it did not even start | 08:44 |
| ajalkane | Ah | 08:45 |
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| Daremonai | hello, i'm trying to port my games from S^3 to MeeGo (Harmattan 1.2), I'm facing a few problems. I finally was able to deploy the app on the MeeGo device; but it didn't seem to be working well. First of all, it goes in Landscape mode even though i have: viewer.setOrientation(QmlApplicationViewer::ScreenOrientationLockPortrait); can someone explain why this is happening? | 09:20 |
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| vladest | hi | 09:23 |
| ieatlint | i think harmattan apps need to use PageStackWindow { } | 09:26 |
| Daremonai | so technically you can't use the same code for S^3 with harmattan? | 09:27 |
| Daremonai | what about phonon, does it work with MeeGo? | 09:27 |
| ajalkane | I think phonon was ported | 09:32 |
| ajalkane | if you mean that kde stuff | 09:33 |
| Daremonai | well, phonon's one way to play audio on Symbian^3, and I was wondering if this works on MeeGo because even after it compiled. I ran the application, and it asked me to specify QCoreApplication::setApplicationName, so I did, but after that, I still don't get any sound output. | 09:34 |
| ajalkane | oh ok, sorry don't know | 09:36 |
| vladest | guys, can you vote for: https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-5599 | 09:43 |
| vladest | ? | 09:43 |
| Daremonai | is it possible to know from qml whether it's a MeeGo device or not? because the font size on S^3 is good, but on MeeGo, it's too tiny, i'm using pointSize in the QML Text elements | 09:43 |
| ieatlint | i don't know if there's a QML specific method for detecting that, but you could always use C++ to tell | 09:58 |
| ieatlint | also, you may want to look at using a more scalable setup with pixelSize | 09:58 |
| ieatlint | and i'm not sure about whether PageStackWindow is required -- but strictly speaking, this also works on Symbian (it's part of the Symbian QtQuick components) | 09:58 |
| * vladest thinks qml is too young to develop seriouse things | 09:59 | |
| Daremonai | ieatlint, yeah i thought about the asking C++ for the platform. | 09:59 |
| dm8tbr | there is this qmlinfo or so thing on developer.nokia.com | 10:00 |
| dm8tbr | I think that can tell you pretty well what hardware etc | 10:00 |
| Daremonai | ieatlint: I tried pixelSize, it was still too small, technically i can just change the point/pixel size to make it bigger, but it's a pain maintaining two different UI versions (if there's no #ifdefs) | 10:01 |
| Daremonai | dm8tbr, will check it out, thanks | 10:01 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i've done relative sizes, like font.pixelSize = height / 2 | 10:02 |
| Daremonai | hmmm.. let me try that and see what happens | 10:03 |
| ieatlint | i've written a few apps that work using meego components and symbian components | 10:04 |
| ieatlint | and it scales pretty well about 90% of the time | 10:04 |
| ieatlint | the other 10% does have to deal with the both the lower res of symbian, and the different aspect ratio | 10:04 |
| ieatlint | and it's annoying | 10:05 |
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| Daremonai | ieatlint, yeah, i bet it is | 10:05 |
| ieatlint | (and yes, the AR becomes a bigger issue, because in meego there is no automatic toolbar at the bottom, but in symbian there is) | 10:06 |
| Daremonai | well, in all my apps, i'm always fullscreening it | 10:06 |
| ieatlint | well, good luck :) | 10:10 |
| ieatlint | i've been enjoying the new belle phones... loving the 700, but symbian is still such crap :( | 10:11 |
| Daremonai | thanks, i haven't gotten belle stuff yet... | 10:13 |
| Daremonai | figured i'd port my games/apps to MeeGo... it's nice to have 'em there I guess | 10:13 |
| ieatlint | it's a fun platform for the most part | 10:13 |
| ieatlint | looks pretty on the n9 | 10:14 |
| Daremonai | yeah, the n9 is such a cool device | 10:15 |
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| vladest | ieatlint: you wrong about symbian is crap | 10:55 |
| vladest | ieatlint: i'm working on hard realtime project on both symbian and meego an symbain works much smoother even having 1.5 times less cpu and 4 times less ram | 10:57 |
| gri | My system hangs up completely when I switch from "dual monitor" to "external only" on my laptop ... anyone experiencing the same? I assume not .. | 11:01 |
| ieatlint | vladest: it wasn't a comparison against harmattan | 11:02 |
| ieatlint | symbian is crap | 11:02 |
| ieatlint | it's the windows me of the phone world... symbian is about 14 years old, and has been patched and patched and patched | 11:04 |
| vladest | ieatlint: why? | 11:04 |
| ieatlint | it was never meant to do 90% of what it does, most notably, touch | 11:04 |
| vladest | gri | 11:04 |
| ieatlint | it looks like crap, behaves like crap, and the market has truly realized this over the past two years | 11:05 |
| gri | vladest, ? | 11:05 |
| vladest | gri: can you vote for: https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-5599 ? | 11:05 |
| vladest | ieatlint: funny arguments | 11:05 |
| gri | vladest, I can but I don't think that changes something :) | 11:06 |
| gri | moment | 11:06 |
| gri | vladest, Voted and Watched | 11:06 |
| vladest | gri: more vote more chances to be fixed | 11:07 |
| vladest | gri: great, 10x | 11:07 |
| gri | vladest, But madde with harmattan target on linux is fast as hell :) If my laptop just won't hangup when changing resolutions or monitor positions | 11:08 |
| vladest | gri: I'm also building for symbian so, linux is not an option right now | 11:14 |
| frals | vladest: the one thing that increases chance to be fixed is a patch, dont assume votes matters | 11:14 |
| Daremonai | 3 | 11:15 |
| gri | vladest, Remote compiler works on linux when building for symbian | 11:15 |
| vladest | gri: yeah, but its requires constant inet connection | 11:17 |
| vladest | frals: well, I have to spent days to understand what is going on there and how to fix it nstaed of do my own job | 11:18 |
| vladest | frals: this is not new issue | 11:18 |
| vladest | frals: same shit happengs when target is symbian 3 | 11:19 |
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| vladest | only symbian1 and esktop works more or less ok | 11:19 |
| frals | http://felipec.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/no-gnome-doesnt-want-user-feedback-how-i-argued-in-favor-of-voting-in-bugzilla-and-got-banned-as-a-result/ | 11:19 |
| frals | has few good points about votes in bz | 11:20 |
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| vladest | nice. found why qdebug stopped to work for me: https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-21345 | 11:26 |
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| Arkenoi | btw my terminal got update and since that "alternate" meego terminal icon was replaced with red square | 11:40 |
| gri | frals, I have seen bug reports in the qt tracker where they denied a patch because of "patch is too big, no one wants to check that" | 11:40 |
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| gri | which is sad but understandable | 11:42 |
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| macmaN | wow n950 found 4 devtools updates today | 12:19 |
| macmaN | and official foursquare app is in ovi store now | 12:19 |
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| vladest | macmaN: only today? | 12:25 |
| gri | macmaN, Those updates are a few days old, I have no new ones | 12:25 |
| macmaN | oh | 12:25 |
| macmaN | ok i havent had background transfers enabled | 12:25 |
| vladest | how to debug qtmobility code on n950 device? | 12:26 |
| vladest | is there is debug versions of qt libraries installed on the device? | 12:26 |
| gri | no :( | 12:31 |
| gri | vladest, I found bugs in QtMobility but since it seems I can't change the version on my device I see no sense in trying to fix them | 12:35 |
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| Daremonai | what's the event that gets sent when you switch to another app? QEvent::Leave? -- because that's what I'm handling, and yet the timer is still running and I can see it in the app's icon in the task switcher view | 12:51 |
| Daremonai | or is it like in symbian: QEvent::WindowDeactivate? | 12:53 |
| gri | Daremonai, on harmattan? Using only c++ or also qml? | 12:56 |
| Daremonai | gri: yes on harmattan, i'm capturing it in c++ and sending a signal that is later caught in qml. I did not know that qml had something like that. | 12:57 |
| Daremonai | i had something like: #elif defined(Q_WS_MAEMO_5) || defined(Q_WS_MAEMO_6) --------- case QEvent::Leave --------- whereas for Q_OS_SYMBIAN it is case QEvent::WindowDeactivate | 12:58 |
| Daremonai | (the code works fine, as symbian handles it correctly, but harmattan doesn't receive that signal, meaning it's not capturing the right event) | 12:59 |
| gri | Daremonai, in qml, this is handled by "MWindowState" https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-components/qt-components/blobs/master/src/meego/mwindowstate.cpp | 13:03 |
| gri | they fetch X11 focus events, seems to be a lot of work | 13:04 |
| Daremonai | hmmm, let me check the code | 13:04 |
| gri | This is the c++ code for the demo of "QMLComponentGallery" -> Window State | 13:04 |
| alterego | The focus events work fine in harmattan | 13:05 |
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| Daremonai | http://pastebin.com/VUsUZFnr <-- this is the code that i have | 13:06 |
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| Daremonai | apparnetly harmattan needs the WindowDeactivate, so removed the #ifdefs and it works. | 13:13 |
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| gri | Daremonai, Are you sure the define is Q_WS_MAEMO_6? I haven't tried those ifdefs since maemo5 | 13:31 |
| gri | hmpf, too late | 13:31 |
| hiemanshu | there is no such define | 13:32 |
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| rZZZr | RST38h: hi | 14:41 |
| RST38h | hello | 14:41 |
| rZZZr | canu check if that rl is still?in repo | 14:42 |
| RST38h | a moment, sshing | 14:42 |
| rZZZr | btw i went to a nikia store in malaysia and they told me in a month | 14:43 |
| Teo` | I can't connect to twitter nor to my nokia account from the N950 with beta2 firmware | 14:43 |
| Teo` | is there a way to fix this? | 14:43 |
| dm8tbr | did you reflash it yet? | 14:44 |
| Teo` | yup | 14:44 |
| Teo` | and I didn't restore a backup | 14:44 |
| Teo` | only imported my contacts from vcards | 14:44 |
| dm8tbr | no idea then | 14:44 |
| rZZZr | can use xmpp as fallback to xpost on twitter | 14:47 |
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| * MohammadAG starts making an MP3 tag editor | 15:15 | |
| macmaN | any suggestions for this: | 15:31 |
| macmaN | Sep 24 15:11:35 (none) COMMHISTORYD: CRITICAL: [35:858] Failed to save message | 15:31 |
| macmaN | i guess its a good bet why some of my messages are disappearing | 15:32 |
| SpeedEvil | macmaN: Stupid suggestion. I assume there is lots of disk space? | 15:34 |
| SpeedEvil | I would suggest that you look in dmesg to see if you're getting any kernel errors, but dmesg is evil. | 15:35 |
| MohammadAG | is there a way to request a list of song files? | 15:36 |
| MohammadAG | I don't mind the tracker dialog | 15:36 |
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| macmaN | SpeedEvil: well dmesg flows to syslog | 15:37 |
| macmaN | only interesting thing is | 15:37 |
| macmaN | ep 23 19:46:57 (none) COMMHISTORYD: CRITICAL: [57:652] "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Tracker1.SparqlError.Constraint: Subject `message:8' is not in domain `nmo:Call' of property `nmo:duration'" | 15:37 |
| SpeedEvil | hmm | 15:38 |
| macmaN | /dev/mmcblk0p3 2.0G 99.4M 1.8G 5% /home | 15:39 |
| macmaN | /dev/mmcblk0p1 8.8G 7.2G 1.6G 82% /home/user/MyDocs | 15:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess dialogs are stored in one of the aegisfs anyway | 15:40 |
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| javispedro | I think I got incoming call notifications working o/ | 16:15 |
| javispedro | there's a undocumented contextkit property | 16:15 |
| javispedro | /com/nokia/CallUi/ActiveCall | 16:16 |
| javispedro | when ringing, it gives the displayName and state == 0 (which I guess means, "ringing") | 16:16 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, incoming call notifications? | 16:17 |
| javispedro | yep | 16:17 |
| MohammadAG | what exactly are those? | 16:18 |
| javispedro | when the ringing ui is shown, and when it is hidden | 16:18 |
| MohammadAG | Option -daemon debrecated, exiting | 16:19 |
| MohammadAG | debrecated? | 16:19 |
| hiemanshu | ask debra why she debrecated it | 16:19 |
| javispedro | well, a breca is kind of fish | 16:19 |
| javispedro | therefore, debrecated ~= defished | 16:20 |
| javispedro | whatever that means | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | so I'm using libcontentmanager | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | need to get a uri to a file, and it shows an empty list | 16:20 |
| javispedro | hm | 16:21 |
| Arkenoi | still no good latitude app for harmattan? | 16:34 |
| hiemanshu | there are two updaters, but thats all | 16:34 |
| MohammadAG | Sep 24 15:26:29 (none) mce[569]: mce-io.c:mce_write_number_string_to_file(): Cannot open `/sys/class/leds/lp5523:channel1/brightness' for writing; No such file or directory | 16:35 |
| MohammadAG | is it normal to have those in syslog? | 16:35 |
| MohammadAG | lots of them | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | that doesn't look good | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | ideally file a bug | 16:35 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: never got that | 16:37 |
| javispedro | on the other side, I do get "Failed to close /sys/.../i2c-2/2-004b/wait_for_gesture: -EBUSY" from time to time | 16:38 |
| javispedro | (from mce too) | 16:39 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, and you have your sysnodes? | 16:41 |
| MohammadAG | RM680-34-2_PR_RM680:~# ls /sys/class/leds/ | 16:41 |
| MohammadAG | RM680-34-2_PR_RM680:~# | 16:42 |
| javispedro | yes | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | weird | 16:42 |
| javispedro | is this the device you wanted to return? | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | anyway | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 16:42 |
| Teo` | I don't get this | 16:42 |
| Teo` | I've tried reflashing and a reset | 16:42 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: so now you have some slightly more concrete proof that something is weird =) | 16:42 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, Jewish holidays not helping | 16:42 |
| Teo` | no backups restored whatsoever | 16:42 |
| Teo` | and still I can't connect to twitter nor nokia account | 16:43 |
| MohammadAG | post office was closed when I got to jerusalem, and tomorrow I'm leaving to uni again | 16:43 |
| Teo` | any good ideas, #harmattan? | 16:43 |
| MohammadAG | I'll be back on Tuesday so I might ship it then, but Wed-Sun is another holiday | 16:43 |
| Teo` | is there specific stuff in /home I need to delete perhaps? | 16:44 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, how do I get the list of credentials my app's requesting? | 16:44 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: what do you mean? if you are requesting credentials, you surely know what those are (you wrote them in the manifest?) | 16:44 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, yes but it's still an empty list | 16:45 |
| MohammadAG | I added TrackerReadAccess and TrackerWriteAccess | 16:45 |
| javispedro | if an app is running, pass accli -p $PID | 16:45 |
| javispedro | *call | 16:45 |
| MohammadAG | should that take ages to return? | 16:46 |
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| javispedro | MohammadAG: forgot, you need to add -I there | 16:47 |
| MohammadAG | oh weird | 16:47 |
| MohammadAG | I ran it from terminal and it worked | 16:47 |
| javispedro | or search for you app in restok.conf | 16:47 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, it worked, but not through the run button in Qt Creator | 16:48 |
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| MohammadAG | but ContentItemsPage is returning some ID, not the URI to the file :/ | 16:48 |
| MohammadAG | urn:uuid:1759f8d7-ea94-9472-e29a-015ba7fd7c8a | 16:49 |
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| javispedro | I don't know what you're doing, but it should not necessarily return a file url | 16:50 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, I need to get a direct URL to a music file | 16:51 |
| javispedro | are you doing a tracker query? | 16:51 |
| MohammadAG | do I need my own interface? | 16:51 |
| MohammadAG | I'm using ContentItemsPage | 16:52 |
| javispedro | nfi | 16:54 |
| javispedro | :P | 16:54 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/.private/mp3-tag-editor_0.0.1_armel.deb | 16:55 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: does nothing, where does it put the uri of the file I linked? | 16:59 |
| javispedro | *clicked? | 16:59 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, M_OUTPUT_LEVEL=debug /usr/bin/mp3-tag-editor | 17:00 |
| javispedro | hm | 17:00 |
| MohammadAG | it's not my fault qDebug is suppressed by default :P | 17:00 |
| javispedro | --output-level debug is broken? | 17:00 |
| MohammadAG | nope, works fine here | 17:02 |
| javispedro | as said, that does not necessraily be a file url | 17:02 |
| javispedro | you need to get the nie:url from tracker | 17:03 |
| MohammadAG | how? | 17:03 |
| javispedro | presumably, it should be easy to do from MTF.. | 17:03 |
| javispedro | using sparql, it's as simple as SELECT ?url WHERE { ?s nie:url ?url . ?s nie:isStoredAs | 17:05 |
| javispedro | "urn:uuid:95606fed-2eb8-90dd-....." . }" | 17:05 |
| javispedro | aka try tracker-sparql -q "SELECT ?url WHERE { ?s nie:url ?url . ?s nie:isStoredAs \"urn:uuid:95606fed-2eb8-90dd-.....\" . }" | 17:05 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, that worked | 17:06 |
| MohammadAG | I'm guessing there are headers for that | 17:07 |
| javispedro | search for qtsparql | 17:07 |
| javispedro | either way, seems like overkill to me | 17:07 |
| MohammadAG | there's libtracker-sparql-dev | 17:07 |
| javispedro | there _has_ to be a way to get that info from the query MTF does, as that is virtually the most common usecase I guess... | 17:08 |
| javispedro | sadly, I have no idea, maybe email meego-handset.. | 17:08 |
| MohammadAG | MTF? | 17:08 |
| MohammadAG | this isn't a standard MTF thing | 17:08 |
| javispedro | libMT | 17:08 |
| javispedro | ah, it isn't ? :P | 17:08 |
| MohammadAG | it's librelevance :P | 17:08 |
| javispedro | well, dunno, if you don't find another way, then | 17:09 |
| javispedro | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta/api_refs/showdoc.php?pkn=libqtsparql&wb=daily-docs&url=Li94bWwvZGFpbHktZG9jcy9saWJxdHNwYXJxbA%3D%3D | 17:09 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, https://qt.gitorious.org/maemo-6-ui-framework/libdui/merge_requests/639 | 17:11 |
| hiemanshu | javispedro: its qsparql | 17:11 |
| MohammadAG | apparently that's the way to do it :/ | 17:11 |
| hiemanshu | and not qtsparql | 17:11 |
| javispedro | hiemanshu: the library is called qtsparql ;) | 17:12 |
| Teo` | it's called both qtsparql and qsparql in different places | 17:12 |
| Teo` | quite confusing, but the thing works so no biggie | 17:12 |
| javispedro | it's quite common for qt to do that | 17:12 |
| javispedro | *libs | 17:12 |
| Teo` | yup | 17:12 |
| javispedro | e.g. qtdbus and QDBus*, etc. | 17:13 |
| Teo` | there's also libqtsparql-tracker | 17:13 |
| Teo` | with tracker-specific stuff | 17:13 |
| * Teo` reflashing his N950 for the 4th time or so in hope of solving the twitter and nokia account issues | 17:14 | |
| berndhs | oh this is special, I remove something from a .pro file, and QtCreator puts it back right before my eyes | 17:27 |
| berndhs | contains(MEEGO_EDITION,harmattan) { target.path=...... } | 17:27 |
| javispedro | qt creator _loves_ doing that | 17:27 |
| berndhs | of course what it puts there is wrong, which is why I remove it, but hey | 17:28 |
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| macmaN | Teo`: http://www.developer.nokia.com/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=234 is all i can tell you | 17:37 |
| Teo` | macmaN: yup, I've just commented on it that a reset doesn't fix it either | 17:38 |
| Teo` | macmaN: do you know if it's possible to reflash to an older version of the firmware? | 17:39 |
| macmaN | Teo`: afaih yes | 17:39 |
| macmaN | i think my disappearing messages have the common characteristic that the contact doesnt exist yet in the addressbook | 17:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Teo`: I had that issue. Several reflashes with the last version did not fix. | 17:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Flashing the new one did | 17:40 |
| Teo` | I thought I might go back to the old version and then the new one again | 17:42 |
| Teo` | but I wouldn't want to brick my device | 17:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Comments seem to indicate that flashing new without restoring settings may work | 17:42 |
| Teo` | SpeedEvil: I never even tried restoring settings | 17:43 |
| SpeedEvil | Did you use backup/restore? | 17:43 |
| Teo` | SpeedEvil: nope | 17:43 |
| macmaN | i wonder if me doing tracker-control -r (Kill all Tracker processes and remove all databases) has anything to do with my database woes now | 17:43 |
| macmaN | i wanted to exclude some music directories from tracker, afaik thats an age old way to do it | 17:44 |
| Teo` | it seems that the old firmware has been removed :( | 17:45 |
| kimju | doesn't matter as you couldn't downgrade the firmware even if you had it. | 17:47 |
| Teo` | oh I can't | 17:47 |
| Teo` | kimju: thanks for the tip :) | 17:47 |
| Teo` | well this is frustrating | 17:47 |
| GAN900 | Hooray, frustrating! | 17:48 |
| kimju | I tested it yesterday to be sure, complains about downgrade not allowed and fails. | 17:48 |
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| macmaN | kimju: oh wow, ack. | 17:48 |
| Teo` | yay freedom | 17:48 |
| kimju | and afterwards the device didn't boot until I reflashed the current firmware. | 17:49 |
| macmaN | crap. i don't want to reflash to fix my possibly unsuccessful database reset. | 17:49 |
| * Teo` headdesks | 17:53 | |
| Teo` | I feel I'm wasting way too much time on this | 17:53 |
| macmaN | accessing ovi account is totally key | 17:53 |
| macmaN | without location access you lose a lot of usefuleness and development capability | 17:54 |
| Teo` | macmaN: I know | 17:54 |
| macmaN | i am totally feeling it now that 34-2 fixed it for me | 17:54 |
| Teo` | macmaN: that's why I'm annoyed, 34-2 is just not fixing it | 17:54 |
| macmaN | foursquaring here like a damn teenager | 17:54 |
| macmaN | Teo`: post-flash, do you have SIM in or not | 17:55 |
| Teo` | macmaN: I do | 17:55 |
| macmaN | ok. there was discussion about the OS using SIM to encrypt the account data and themsuch. | 17:55 |
| macmaN | but i guess perhaps you could try without | 17:56 |
| Teo` | macmaN: well it's always been the same SIM | 17:56 |
| Teo` | ok will do | 17:56 |
| macmaN | most i'm loving about the upgrade is that pkgmgrd has been fixed in 34-2 | 17:56 |
| macmaN | app installation works without issues now | 17:56 |
| * Teo` yanks out the SIM | 17:57 | |
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| Teo` | macmaN: no luck even without SIM | 18:23 |
| Teo` | I'm so annoyed, the device is half-usable this way | 18:24 |
| macmaN | yeah i feel you | 18:32 |
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| macmaN | i cant really figure out my commhistoryd fail, difficult to spread brainpower to the account issue | 18:33 |
| * javispedro starting to think that qt is frigging great | 18:41 | |
| macmaN | javispedro: yeah? what was the trigger? | 18:42 |
| javispedro | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qobject.html#connectNotify | 18:42 |
| javispedro | don't ask =) | 18:42 |
| javispedro | (but my idea is not actually start polling for X unless someone is really connected to signal X) | 18:42 |
| artemma | aaaaaaaaahhhh | 18:50 |
| artemma | Why does nothing from meego middlewhere compile without problems? | 18:50 |
| * artemma freaking tired bouncing its head against .pro files and configurations | 18:51 | |
| artemma | or is it specific to timed related branches only? | 18:51 |
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| artemma | why can't I #include <qmlog>? | 18:55 |
| artemma | I tried building qmlog from scratch, and aegis fails to deploy it. I guess it means qmlog is already present on device | 18:55 |
| macmaN | SpeedEvil and possible others, are you receiving notifications from developer.nokia.com bugzilla? | 18:56 |
| SpeedEvil | wait | 18:56 |
| macmaN | i am just now looking at my #234 bug and notice a hefty bit of discussion and ive been so accustomed to all my bugzillas sending me cc mails, that i never thought that nokia's wouldnt | 18:56 |
| SpeedEvil | Seemingly not | 18:57 |
| macmaN | right-e-o | 18:57 |
| macmaN | whadda fail | 18:57 |
| macmaN | with elop in charge, im kinda feeling it doesnt help to even do anything about stuff like this | 18:58 |
| macmaN | am i totally off? | 18:58 |
| artemma | what does Elop has to do with employees not doing proper work? :) | 18:59 |
| macmaN | fish always starts rotting from the head | 19:00 |
| artemma | only if you wanna be aligned with that head and not with being decent ;) | 19:01 |
| macmaN | well yeah, but i have no inside view on how many spined people there are | 19:02 |
| macmaN | and spine also depends on how secure you are with a number of vectors | 19:02 |
| * artemma deleted whole timed from local drive yet another time | 19:10 | |
| macmaN | timed? | 19:11 |
| artemma | Harmattan's cron | 19:12 |
| artemma | well, kind of | 19:12 |
| artemma | alarm and scheduling service | 19:12 |
| artemma | the only code I've seen in years with cryptic variable names and two pages long methods in "example code" | 19:13 |
| macmaN | mkay | 19:14 |
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| MohammadAG | naw tracker on Harmattan doesn't watch files | 19:23 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: Any way toreturn the original n900 camera app? as an option maybe? | 19:23 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: I have just tried making photos with the CSSU one and it is screwing up hard | 19:24 |
| macmaN | MohammadAG: what are you talking about | 19:25 |
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| artemma | why do I see libtimed-voland.so in Nokia SDK, but not corresponding .h files? | 19:34 |
| artemma | or maybe that's wrong question to ask | 19:35 |
| artemma | what is the way for installing dev packages? | 19:35 |
| artemma | I never did that | 19:35 |
| MohammadAG | macmaN, I wrote an app to change metadata, it doesn't reflect the changes as quick as fremantle's tracker | 19:37 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, apt-get install camera-ui=oldversion, off topic here | 19:37 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: gotit | 19:38 |
| MohammadAG | happy tagging https://gitorious.org/harmattan-m6-utils/mp3-tag-editor/blobs/master/mainpage.cpp | 19:47 |
| javispedro | hm | 19:48 |
| javispedro | thinking whether editing the tags in tracker itself eventually causes them to be written back to the mp3 files? | 19:48 |
| javispedro | there's a tracker-writeback daemon iirc | 19:48 |
| javispedro | maybe that's why they "don't get updated" | 19:49 |
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| faenil | good morning everyone :) | 19:51 |
| javispedro | hi faenil | 19:52 |
| faenil | lol I said morning, meant evening :D | 19:52 |
| faenil | hi javis :) | 19:52 |
| sandst1 | http://sandst1.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/mymoves-0-0-2-usable-gestures-for-harmattan/ | 19:52 |
| faenil | nice :) | 19:53 |
| javispedro | sandst1: graffiti! | 19:53 |
| faenil | was it you that published that video demo? | 19:53 |
| faenil | the one for 0.1 | 19:54 |
| faenil | probably, yeah | 19:54 |
| faenil | very useful :) | 19:55 |
| faenil | don't agree with the 2 fingers solution, but it's great :) | 19:55 |
| sandst1 | faenil: yep, that was me :) | 19:56 |
| faenil | ok ^^ | 19:57 |
| faenil | javispedro: what are you working on atm, apart from metawatch? :D | 19:58 |
| javispedro | SDL | 19:59 |
| faenil | like what :) | 19:59 |
| sandst1 | faenil: i actually started with >10 one-finger gestures but they got a bit too much in the way of normal usage, so settled for 2&3-finger ones :) | 19:59 |
| javispedro | faenil: well, there are still a few things to polish with audio & the policy manager | 20:00 |
| faenil | sandst1: I see :) | 20:00 |
| artemma | I can't simulate even calendar reminder anymore.. Used to be able to do it. Before Beta2 at least | 20:00 |
| faenil | javispedro: oh ok ;) | 20:00 |
| faenil | javispedro: news about kernel source? Not that I'd do anything with that atm | 20:00 |
| javispedro | other than "soon" | 20:00 |
| faenil | oh...well let's hope u're wrong :) | 20:01 |
| javispedro | hm? | 20:01 |
| faenil | what if we all started working on CE? | 20:01 |
| GAN900 | Soon | 20:02 |
| GAN900 | I hate that word | 20:02 |
| faenil | me too... | 20:03 |
| macmaN | oh sweet got my first "Memory low, close some apps" | 20:03 |
| macmaN | pretty much fresh off a reboot | 20:03 |
| faenil | I mean what if we all worked to speed up the dev of CE? | 20:03 |
| w00t | faenil: already there, feel free to join in ;) | 20:03 |
| artemma | I wonder why the system can't close some apps on its own when out of memory | 20:04 |
| faenil | w00t: sure I'd love to, even if I have no idea of what is needed there, and I probably need to study things :D | 20:04 |
| w00t | i'm happy to give things to do if anyone wants them :P | 20:04 |
| faenil | w00t: :D in my case, I probably miss knowledge, but I'd love to help if helped XD | 20:04 |
| faenil | even if I don't have much spare time atm | 20:05 |
| w00t | faenil: pop into #meego-arm, hang around and start getting a feel for things | 20:05 |
| faenil | w00t: okay :) done ;) | 20:05 |
| ajalkane | I think it'd be kinda annoying if the system started magically closing apps I'm using | 20:06 |
| macmaN | meegoce telephony parts will work fine on n950? | 20:08 |
| macmaN | i remember on n900 there was lots of closed shiznit that | 20:08 |
| w00t | Stskeeps is a good person to talk to about that | 20:10 |
| snowpong | anyone played around making your app policy/resource aware? I'm trying to make my audio player play nice with the global volume and other media apps - and the docs are from 2010 and a bit dater :) | 20:13 |
| javispedro | snowpong: what's the problem? | 20:15 |
| javispedro | snowpong: also, http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta/api_refs/showdoc.php?pkn=libresourceqt&wb=daily-docs&url=Li94bWwvZGFpbHktZG9jcy9saWJyZXNvdXJjZXF0 | 20:15 |
| snowpong | javispedro: the problem is I don't seem to get told when my resources are lost, I'm listening to lost and released atm - maybe I need to look at destroyed as well... | 20:18 |
| javispedro | well, resources being lost happens rarely | 20:18 |
| javispedro | what is your application class, "player"? | 20:18 |
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| snowpong | javispedro: yes | 20:20 |
| * snowpong will listen to all signals there are and see which are triggered | 20:21 | |
| javispedro | destroyed will not be triggered unless you're doing something wrong | 20:21 |
| javispedro | try launching angrybirds | 20:22 |
| javispedro | (while you have the resources granted) | 20:22 |
| snowpong | javispedro: good idea, at the moment I was launching video playback - and for that it didn't signal me anything | 20:22 |
| snowpong | but I did loose audio in some conditions when I was in background and the video player was running | 20:23 |
| snowpong | javispedro: do you know the difference between doing resouceSet->addResource(AudioPlayBackType) and resouceSet->addResourceObject(new ResourcePolicy::AudioResource("player")) - to me they seem the same | 20:24 |
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| javispedro | snowpong: with the later you can set up some settings such as whether which streams to associate with which class | 20:25 |
| javispedro | for example, you are not saying the audio class is "player" in the former. | 20:26 |
| snowpong | javispedro: ok, but I don't first have to set the AudioPlayBackType and then add the AudioResource object, I can go directly to setting the AudioResource object ? | 20:30 |
| javispedro | better create the AudioResource object, that way you can set "player". | 20:31 |
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| snowpong | javispedro: that is what I'm doing now, and I'm also setting my PID on it and setting the streamTag("media.name", "*") to cover any streams my app creates | 20:37 |
| javispedro | oh | 20:38 |
| javispedro | are you using pulseaudio directly | 20:38 |
| javispedro | ? | 20:38 |
| snowpong | gstreamer | 20:39 |
| snowpong | anwayws, I get resourcesReleasedByManager() | 20:39 |
| snowpong | thats probably what I should react to in some way... | 20:39 |
| snowpong | It seems to mute my streams when I pause the Video player, if I resume video playback my streams are unmuted again ... strange | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | first step on USB hostmode for N950: constant VBUS 5V established | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1094568&postcount=49 | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Congrats! | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Publish it! | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | USB-mugwarmer-enabler. | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | HEHEHE | 20:48 |
| macmaN | winter is coming | 20:48 |
| macmaN | usb heating gloves ftw | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | for $1.99 ? | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Go for it! | 20:49 |
| macmaN | oh sweet, found where to preload Maps over wifi | 20:49 |
| SpeedEvil | Ah - that's what I was meaning to do. | 20:49 |
| faenil | wait wait wait! | 20:49 |
| faenil | I bought those gloves | 20:49 |
| faenil | xD | 20:49 |
| faenil | they SUCK guys xD | 20:50 |
| macmaN | me too, for moms | 20:50 |
| macmaN | :> | 20:50 |
| faenil | xD | 20:51 |
| faenil | problem is, they only heat one specific part | 20:51 |
| macmaN | MohammadAG: does skype gui have ability to add contacts on skype account? | 20:51 |
| faenil | which becomes warm, while the rest of your hand is freezing :D | 20:51 |
| macmaN | lol | 20:51 |
| faenil | be back in 1 hour approx :) cya | 20:52 |
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| * SpeedEvil ponders 'Slightly annoyed Rodents' | 21:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer | ? | 21:03 |
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| macmaN | can the n950 queue emails sendmail style? | 21:12 |
| macmaN | for example collecting stuff into emails from cronjobs, then sending them when connection becomes available. | 21:13 |
| macmaN | 21:14 | |
| macmaN | -sh: mail: not found | 21:14 |
| macmaN | i guess this is not very promising | 21:14 |
| macmaN | crashing Maps doesnt seem to be particularly hard | 21:23 |
| macmaN | just editing some favorites will do it | 21:23 |
| artemma | what would be the right place for asking about how to compile meego middleware? | 21:24 |
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| javispedro | #meego ? ;) | 21:24 |
| artemma | oups, I didn't realize there is such channel | 21:25 |
| artemma | thanks | 21:25 |
| w00t | artemma: there's also #meego-arm, which is also useful | 21:25 |
| artemma | thanks, guys | 21:26 |
| macmaN | hmmm, is Navigate supposed to help you navigate on foot too? it's giving me Positioning You and then returns to Maps | 21:28 |
| macmaN | hrm, swiping left seems to have killed Maps again, so i guess it got into some wack state | 21:28 |
| macmaN | lol seeing "Unknown pathway" on route is always confidence-building | 21:30 |
| dm8tbr | as long as it doesn't make you walk a motorway... | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think as long as there's no decent GPS fix, it behaves weird | 21:31 |
| macmaN | ok selecting car forwards navigation to Drive. i guess walk navigation isnt in the program. | 21:31 |
| macmaN | GPS icon is fixed | 21:31 |
| macmaN | unless its faking it | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | I seem to recall it actually faked that for me | 21:31 |
| macmaN | right could be, since topbar shows fixed icon, but Drive keeps "Looking for GPS" | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's about what I recall as well | 21:32 |
| macmaN | ill switch to 3G, maybe thatll help positioning | 21:33 |
| macmaN | yep, it did | 21:33 |
| macmaN | there we go, walking navigate works too now | 21:34 |
| macmaN | very cool | 21:34 |
| macmaN | i installed the Compass app today, very funky, kryptonite color scheme | 21:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | It'd be nice if it had clinometer too | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | macmaN: so you confirm there's a bug of some sort in GPS fix acquisition for navigate, and walk navi only works after you managed to convice the device to do a *real* GPS fix? | 21:40 |
| macmaN | pretty much | 21:40 |
| macmaN | reads like an accurate description of what just happened | 21:40 |
| macmaN | i mean if there were some actual notification "yo user, i failed acquiring gpsfix, pls forgive me" that wouldve made sense | 21:41 |
| macmaN | instead it drops back to last screen like everything is normal | 21:41 |
| macmaN | maps doesnt seem to have like a surefire indicator "we are currently still fixed really well" | 21:42 |
| javispedro | mwahaha, metawatch already vibrating at incoming calls | 21:47 |
| javispedro | it even starts doing it faster than the n950 itself | 21:48 |
| * javispedro is happy | 21:48 | |
| berndhs | must be those fast neutrinos | 21:49 |
| javispedro | berndhs: seems that there's a delay during phone# -> address book name lookup | 21:49 |
| faenil | ahahah xD | 21:49 |
| javispedro | berndhs: N950 waits until that is done, but I start the vibrator before that | 21:49 |
| dm8tbr | javispedro: cool, I'll _really_ have to steal your code then and look if I can do something similar with the liveview | 21:50 |
| berndhs | yes a reasonble explanation, spoils it completely :) | 21:50 |
| berndhs | raises a question though, what if the n950 doesn't find the phone#? does it still notify ? | 21:52 |
| ajalkane | I sure hope not. That'd be like denial of service attack, alerting user of all kinds of unknown calls | 21:54 |
| javispedro | dm8tbr: the idea is that you have to implement this: https://gitorious.org/sowatch/sowatch/blobs/master/libsowatch/watch.h | 21:54 |
| macmaN | i really really dont remember a phonecall DoS | 21:54 |
| macmaN | like ever | 21:54 |
| macmaN | being an issue | 21:54 |
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| * ajalkane is trying to remember... foggy... gives up | 21:55 | |
| RST38h | evening, javispedro | 21:55 |
| javispedro | moo RST38h | 21:56 |
| javispedro | and right after the call, you get the "missed call" notification... :) | 21:59 |
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| Tronic | :O | 22:44 |
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