| Arkenoi | piggz: which repository? | 00:16 |
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| piggz | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=76360 | 00:17 |
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| * nibbler retried with 482ce0b01cef4432d3565f5b1674600d / Linux_Quick_OCF_22-6_EMMC_RM680-OEM1-916.bin - successfully! | 00:47 | |
| nibbler | for the record... it's available here: http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/82e20e00-3bca-4fd1-b588-a1d8c30ed974/Nokia_N950_OneClickFlashers_Quick_Erase.html | 00:47 |
| nibbler | the other one gave me ERROR: Failed to erase MMC using 'secure' method and Erasing unsuccess | 00:48 |
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| javispedro | funnily enough, the statusbar bluetooth icon seems to _disappear_ when I actually use bluetooth | 06:05 |
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| berndhs | only enough power budget for BT or icon, not both ? | 06:13 |
| javispedro | possibly =) | 06:14 |
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| Scifig | Does anyone have a recommendation on keeping/deleting DigiNotar cert from harmattan? If deleting, how? Not that I have hyper-confidential data. I want to know what you guys did. | 07:19 |
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| dm8tbr | Scifig: I'd expect that it will not be present in an update to more recent firmware | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | morn dm8tbr | 08:32 |
| dm8tbr | mrng Stskeeps | 08:32 |
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| Scifig | dm8tbr, GM. Hopefully it will be revoked. Allowing deletion by users would have been helpful with more CAs getting hacked these days. | 08:37 |
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| Stskeeps | i thought there's a certificate manager | 08:39 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, but apparently you can't remove... | 08:42 |
| Scifig | Stskeeps, atleast not through UI. May be some sqlite DB modification works. | 08:43 |
| Scifig | But with aegis I would think twice before modifying pre-installed files | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | Scifig: fairly sure i saw a list of certificate somewhere | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | in settings | 08:44 |
| Scifig | yes it is read-only though | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | tap and hold? | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | or click and delete | 08:44 |
| Scifig | tap and hold --> Details page. Highlight and Backspace (or) Ctrl+X doesn't work :) | 08:46 |
| dm8tbr | hmm could be a valid bug for PMO | 08:46 |
| Scifig | Apparantly they didn't anticipate CAs getting hacked | 08:47 |
| Scifig | I don't blame them | 08:48 |
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| dm8tbr | I think being able to individually revoke trust for CAs has always been a valid point | 08:49 |
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| Scifig | Agree. I have read that some people like to revoke trust for all CAs from certain countries. That's a bit too paranoid for me. But it is good to have a choice. | 08:59 |
| * Scifig wonders whether user-installed certificates can be deleted | 09:00 | |
| nibbler | revoking trust from CAs is indeed rather important. | 09:02 |
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| MohammadAG | aren't the packages open? | 14:26 |
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| MohammadAG | power saving mode is way too annoying sometimes | 14:29 |
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| tstaerk | hi, Sput told me you are the real experts for what I want. | 15:26 |
| tstaerk | What is a harmattan device? | 15:26 |
| Sput | the N950. | 15:26 |
| tstaerk | ok, a don't-call-it-prototype prototype | 15:27 |
| SpeedEvil | And the n9 | 15:27 |
| tstaerk | falsified | 15:27 |
| SpeedEvil | I thought the n9 was supposed to be for sale on the 15th | 15:28 |
| tstaerk | SpeedEvil: never mind I was mistaken | 15:28 |
| tstaerk | so what does harmattan stand for? Wikipedia does not seem to know. | 15:28 |
| SpeedEvil | It's a sort of wind | 15:29 |
| Sput | tstaerk: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmattan | 15:29 |
| SpeedEvil | It's a theme of naming of the various maemo platforms. | 15:29 |
| Sput | :) | 15:29 |
| tstaerk | you are becoming like Intel with their codenames | 15:29 |
| tstaerk | :) | 15:29 |
| tstaerk | N950 is meego-based, correct? | 15:30 |
| alterego | It's maemo based with a MeeGo compatible vaneer on to. | 15:30 |
| alterego | ~top | 15:30 |
| infobot | it has been said that top is not a benchmark | 15:30 |
| tstaerk | infobot: I love you | 15:31 |
| infobot | You love you? | 15:31 |
| tstaerk | infobot: tell me about you | 15:31 |
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| MohammadAG | is it normal for the N950 to overheat at times? | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | i think that the metal collects a fair amount of heat | 16:19 |
| MohammadAG | Not the normal heating, the one that almost burns | 16:19 |
| javispedro | I've never seen it | 16:19 |
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| MohammadAG | Stskeeps, yeah, I'm used to that from the N8, but this is way more | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | i think the rssi's are totally fucked in the n950 | 16:20 |
| alterego | I'd ope it up and check your battery isn't bulging | 16:21 |
| MohammadAG | cause opening it up is totally within your agreement's limits ;) | 16:21 |
| alterego | pfft, like no one has openned it up yet ;) | 16:21 |
| MohammadAG | I haven't :p | 16:22 |
| alterego | Well, I haven't but I probably will one day | 16:22 |
| * MohammadAG ponders contacting ddp | 16:22 | |
| javispedro | no one has! | 16:22 |
| javispedro | ;P | 16:22 |
| alterego | Might get a spare battery, I know at least one person does battery swapping | 16:22 |
| alterego | javispedro: how's your watch? :) | 16:23 |
| * dm8tbr swaps all the time | 16:26 | |
| dm8tbr | it's just so much faster than charging | 16:26 |
| javispedro | alterego: http://depot.javispedro.com/metawatch/watchtoomany.jpg | 16:27 |
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| javispedro | so, "in progress" =) | 16:30 |
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| javispedro | I ponder if the weather data that is shown on the n9 notifications screen will be accessible | 16:31 |
| alterego | Hmmm, how to manage layered mouse areas .. | 16:31 |
| MohammadAG | events screen javispedro :P | 16:31 |
| javispedro | touché | 16:32 |
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| * alterego wonders if MeeGo CE will be out before we get Harmattan update for N950 :P | 16:43 | |
| SpeedEvil | Or maybe Mer. | 16:45 |
| alterego | :) | 16:45 |
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| alterego | Hah, cool, that works :D | 17:05 |
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| dm8tbr | alterego: sadly that's not possible AFAIU for 22-6 devices. I don't know the details but I gather booting something own there is quite complicated/impossible. | 17:10 |
| dm8tbr | that said CE on the N950 works already quite well if you happen to have a device that allows for it | 17:11 |
| alterego | Good point, we need the update to be able to boot it :/ | 17:24 |
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| bedahr | is there an easy way to place calls? | 18:20 |
| alterego | You mean programmatically? | 18:20 |
| bedahr | yes | 18:20 |
| bedahr | I mean without becoming a full telepathy client (?)... a dbus call maybe? | 18:20 |
| alterego | It's concievable that the same API used in Maemo5 might work in Harmattan | 18:21 |
| bedahr | doesn't look like it | 18:21 |
| bedahr | at least the dbus interface is gone | 18:21 |
| MohammadAG | ei after c, damn you alterego | 18:21 |
| alterego | Try this: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control | 18:21 |
| alterego | :P | 18:21 |
| bedahr | alterego: already found that - there is no inteface called "com.nokia.csd.Call" (anymore) | 18:22 |
| alterego | Oh | 18:23 |
| bedahr | there is just Com.Nokia.Telephony.CallUi for the ui (which has answering!) and the telepathy stuff | 18:24 |
| bedahr | and telepathy looks a bit much for a simple call: http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/doc/telepathy-qt4/classes.html | 18:25 |
| dm8tbr | this Com.Nokia.Telephony.CallUi - would that also provide data about incoming calls? | 18:26 |
| MohammadAG | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.Call /com/nokia/csd/call com.nokia.csd.Call.CreateWith string:"number" uint32:0 | 18:26 |
| bedahr | dm8tbr: yes, there are signals | 18:26 |
| MohammadAG | you'll need the aegis manifest for dbus otherwise it's rejected | 18:26 |
| MohammadAG | in terminal, you need develsh | 18:27 |
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| bedahr | MohammadAG: ahh... I was looking at the session bus xD | 18:27 |
| bedahr | awesome | 18:27 |
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| * bedahr closes the telepathy reference documentation (thank god) | 18:28 | |
| dm8tbr | very good info. need to reuse that later for the liveview/metawatch | 18:30 |
| javispedro | dm8tbr: looked at libcommhistory? | 18:31 |
| alterego | Anyone know off hand how big the harmattan icons are? | 18:31 |
| dm8tbr | javispedro: no, would that provide real time incoming call info? | 18:32 |
| javispedro | dm8tbr: http://wiki.meego.com/Commhistory documentation is not exactly extensive here | 18:32 |
| deimos | alterego: 80x80 | 18:32 |
| javispedro | dm8tbr: dunno yet, but it does list missed call count | 18:32 |
| alterego | Thanks | 18:32 |
| dm8tbr | mhm | 18:32 |
| alterego | deimos: ;) | 18:32 |
| javispedro | (as well as sms) | 18:32 |
| MohammadAG | in other news, javispedro will be happy that the HP touchpad runs android better now | 18:36 |
| javispedro | I wouldn't use the word better.. | 18:37 |
| bedahr | dm8tbr: dbus-monitor can probably help you (if you don't already know it) | 18:39 |
| dm8tbr | thanks | 18:40 |
| javispedro | this reminds me.. | 18:40 |
| dm8tbr | I'm still hope to piggyback on whatever happens for the metawatch :) | 18:40 |
| dm8tbr | as stuff is fairly similar | 18:40 |
| javispedro | to enable eavesdropping on the session bus in harmattan | 18:40 |
| javispedro | drop http://pastebin.com/2w9aux2m into /etc/dbus-1/session-eavesdropping.conf | 18:41 |
| javispedro | name _is_ important | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | anyone wanna make a wiki page for N9/50 DBus calls? | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | you know, like the notification dbus messages etc etc | 18:41 |
| * alterego looks at MohammadAG | 18:42 | |
| alterego | I nominate you | 18:42 |
| MohammadAG | Rejected | 18:42 |
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| javispedro | Pikachu, I choose you! | 18:42 |
| MohammadAG | we have a pokemon? | 18:44 |
| MohammadAG | need some opinions | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | what would be a better way to deactivate a notification LED? | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | when the notification is seen or opened? | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | seen = you saw the lock screen, opened = cleared | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | I'm thinking clearing them's better since the N950 unlocks itself in my pocket anyway | 18:46 |
| alterego | The N900 doesn't clear indicator led when unlocked | 18:47 |
| alterego | It does it when you "clear" the notification by viewing it or dismissing it. | 18:47 |
| alterego | Which I think is a much better idea. | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | now question no. 2 | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | do I have to read some SQLite database to see what notifications there are, or is there an interface? | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | there's an eventAdded DBus signal, but no signal for clearing the notifications | 18:49 |
| alterego | Hmm | 18:50 |
| alterego | Nearly cloned the harmattan home screens with my own QML version | 18:51 |
| MohammadAG | this should be part of the standard MeeGo API | 18:51 |
| w00t | alterego: playing with lipstick? | 18:51 |
| alterego | Well, that actual UI stuff, need to hook up things like icons for the launcher and stuff | 18:51 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, yay, more memory usage | 18:51 |
| * MohammadAG hides | 18:52 | |
| alterego | w00t: I was thinking of overlaying it on lipstick | 18:52 |
| w00t | alterego: please do | 18:52 |
| w00t | saves me writing the qml ;) | 18:52 |
| alterego | :) | 18:52 |
| * w00t was just dreading trying to make it not look ugly | 18:52 | |
| alterego | w00t: well it's quite close to completion now. | 18:52 |
| w00t | :) | 18:52 |
| berndhs | how does one talk to the virtual keyboard? whether it's displayed, what orientation, that sort of thing | 18:53 |
| alterego | w00t: you know that screencast I showed you the other day with the moving of activities around a grid? | 18:53 |
| w00t | yes | 18:53 |
| alterego | I use that same system for editing the position of icons in an app launcher now | 18:53 |
| alterego | Like harmattan | 18:53 |
| w00t | neat | 18:53 |
| alterego | And you can also scroll between the activities and application launcher views too :) | 18:53 |
| alterego | s/scroll/swipe/ | 18:54 |
| infobot | alterego meant: And you can also swipe between the activities and application launcher views too :) | 18:54 |
| w00t | *nod* | 18:54 |
| alterego | So I should be able to wire all of this up to your lipstick stuff, implement the icon reordering backend in pure QML though I might do it in C++ in your code. | 18:55 |
| alterego | And, erm, need a statusbar | 18:55 |
| alterego | Does lipstick do anything around the statusbar? | 18:55 |
| w00t | as in, the wifi indicators/etc? | 18:55 |
| alterego | Yes | 18:55 |
| w00t | I'm not sure how to best approach that | 18:55 |
| w00t | it's rather system-dependent, which is a pain | 18:55 |
| alterego | Hmm | 18:55 |
| alterego | Can we not just use the current meego one? | 18:56 |
| w00t | easiest way would be to wrap a QML item around MStatusBar, but ehh.. I don't want to depend on meegotouch if i can concievably avoid it | 18:56 |
| MohammadAG | umm | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | why not use Qt Mobility and render your own status menu? | 18:58 |
| alterego | Yeah, | 18:59 |
| alterego | I might see the plausibility of that. | 18:59 |
| alterego | It also acts as a good test of the completeness of mobility on MeeGo CE | 18:59 |
| alterego | Now to clean up the delegate handling in my wacky gridview | 19:00 |
| alterego | Oh and add auto scrolling when you try to drag an item off the edge of the screen. | 19:01 |
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| javispedro | MohammadAG: oh, so you want to find a way to read current pending MNotifications too? | 19:01 |
| javispedro | I was just trying to guess how that would be done right now. | 19:01 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, either that, or find a way to see which ones are added and removed | 19:01 |
| MohammadAG | that way I can store notification IDs internally | 19:01 |
| javispedro | some are persistent AIUI | 19:01 |
| javispedro | which means system puts them back after a reboot | 19:01 |
| javispedro | so _there_ has to be a DB | 19:02 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, look at this http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta/api_refs/xml/daily-docs/libcommhistory/modelwatcher_8cpp_source.html | 19:02 |
| javispedro | but are you sure those are MNotifications? | 19:02 |
| MohammadAG | same DBus messages | 19:02 |
| javispedro | hm | 19:02 |
| javispedro | either way, ModelTestWatcher is not something I'd paid attention right now =) | 19:03 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta/api_refs/xml/daily-docs/libcommhistory/classCommHistory_1_1Event.html | 19:04 |
| javispedro | technically libcommhistory should be astracted by QtM too | 19:04 |
| javispedro | here's mnotification for reference : https://qt.gitorious.org/maemo-6-ui-framework/libdui/trees/0dc456e67f140eab7682c0fff59068a2d33546b3/src/corelib/notification | 19:05 |
| bedahr | another question: is there a quick and easy way to let the user "pick" a contact from his address book? like a ready made (qml) component somewhere? or do I have to resort to the QtMobility API myself (which wouldn't be so bad anyway)? | 19:05 |
| MohammadAG | is there a way to see which files are being written to? | 19:06 |
| javispedro | err... better url https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/trees/master/src/corelib/notification | 19:06 |
| MohammadAG | kinda like strace but for all binaries | 19:06 |
| bedahr | hm there is a contacts picker in meegoo... | 19:06 |
| bedahr | *meego | 19:06 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: there's one such option in laptop_mode, but it's probably hard to enable in n950 kernel | 19:06 |
| MohammadAG | "/.config/libmeegotouch/notifications/" | 19:06 |
| MohammadAG | commhistoryd.data <-- gotcha | 19:07 |
| javispedro | not necessarily | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | or not | 19:07 |
| javispedro | it might be commhistoryd using MNotification to write that | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | sociality-mtf.data | 19:07 |
| javispedro | haha | 19:07 |
| javispedro | well, those files are written by MNotificationManager in MTF | 19:08 |
| javispedro | https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/blobs/master/src/corelib/notification/mnotificationmanager.cpp#line25 | 19:08 |
| MohammadAG | yes, that's where I found it | 19:09 |
| javispedro | so that's where MNotifications persist | 19:09 |
| javispedro | I wonder if there's a daemon or sth that reads these files at boot and prefills the events view | 19:10 |
| MohammadAG | tbh | 19:10 |
| MohammadAG | nothing changes there | 19:10 |
| javispedro | there's a com.meego.core.MNotificationManager.notificationList method | 19:11 |
| javispedro | returns a QList<MNotification> | 19:11 |
| javispedro | dbus method actually. | 19:11 |
| MohammadAG | Well, here's where the feed is stored (facebook/twitter/stuff) /.config/meegotouchhome-nokia/eventsfeed.data | 19:12 |
| javispedro | I wish I had a way to send me IMs to the N950 | 19:13 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, I call myself with skype right now | 19:13 |
| MohammadAG | SkypeOut, you don't pay for missed calls | 19:13 |
| javispedro | ah, because you _have_ skype, you evil cheater. | 19:13 |
| javispedro | AH | 19:13 |
| javispedro | to the phone.. | 19:13 |
| javispedro | ok, let's true. | 19:13 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 19:13 |
| javispedro | dammit | 19:14 |
| javispedro | doesn't seem to work, empty list returned | 19:14 |
| javispedro | $ qdbus --literal com.meego.core.MNotificationManager /notificationmanager com | 19:14 |
| javispedro | .meego.core.MNotificationManager.notificationList 1000 | 19:14 |
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| javispedro | wait | 19:15 |
| javispedro | userId is not unix user id =) | 19:15 |
| MohammadAG | where are the docs btw? | 19:16 |
| dm8tbr | javispedro: IMs? XMPP works... | 19:16 |
| javispedro | dm8tbr: not set it up, do you have the way to do it manually around? | 19:16 |
| dm8tbr | I google 'mc-tool xmpp #harmattan' and it's the oldest hit :) | 19:17 |
| dm8tbr | (of those to the log) | 19:17 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: not that useful ... http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta/api_refs/xml/daily-docs/libmeegotouch/class_m_notification_manager_proxy.html | 19:17 |
| dm8tbr | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-08-24.log.html#t2011-08-24T08:26:40 | 19:17 |
| javispedro | dm8tbr: thanks | 19:18 |
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| dm8tbr | the only downside I've noticed is that because it's not a fully registered service thingy contacts don't have a button to send them a message, although they will have the status dot | 19:19 |
| dm8tbr | once you have received a message you can just go back to the conversation and use that | 19:19 |
| javispedro | this is great | 19:20 |
| javispedro | can you believe it's the first time I see the harmattan IM ui | 19:20 |
| javispedro | you can start a chat session within the conversations app just fine | 19:21 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, you noob | 19:21 |
| MohammadAG | you should start putting things you found together | 19:21 |
| MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xUcYe0Ts | 19:22 |
| javispedro | aha | 19:23 |
| javispedro | that makes sense, user id means client id | 19:23 |
| javispedro | you can get a new one with the notificationUserId method | 19:23 |
| javispedro | (meanwhile, mail app just decided to do its job, so I now have a gazillion MNotifications..) | 19:24 |
| MohammadAG | point is | 19:24 |
| MohammadAG | this seems to be easy | 19:24 |
| MohammadAG | parse all IDs in the folder | 19:25 |
| javispedro | that's clearly QSettings | 19:25 |
| javispedro | so you don't even need to aprse | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | use QSettings to parse | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | don't correct me ! | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 19:25 |
| * javispedro hides | 19:25 | |
| MohammadAG | anyway, read notification ID, cast it to a QList, and you're dnoe | 19:25 |
| javispedro | seems so | 19:26 |
| javispedro | still need a signal to know when they change | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | btw | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | there's eventsAdded | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | or eventAdded* | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | not sure about removing them, the proxy thing I linked you to seems to monitor them | 19:27 |
| javispedro | there's removeNotification(userId, notificationId) | 19:27 |
| MohammadAG | thanks for that, need it for sociality | 19:27 |
| MohammadAG | but that's no signal ;) | 19:28 |
| javispedro | ah | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | btw | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | isn't this MeeGo's domain? | 19:28 |
| javispedro | handset | 19:29 |
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| javispedro | aha | 19:30 |
| javispedro | the implementer of this dbus service is ... wait for it ... system-ui. | 19:30 |
| alterego | Oh, I need to do continuous swiping too. | 19:31 |
| alterego | Thinking about it. | 19:31 |
| alterego | Is that something people would miss in a swipe like UI? | 19:31 |
| alterego | Between home screens? | 19:31 |
| w00t | alterego: i don't think it's needed for an initial start (which is why i didn't bother doing it) | 19:31 |
| alterego | Okay, I'll just clean up my magic gridview code. | 19:32 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, that's also MeeGo's domain :p | 19:32 |
| alterego | Then look at hooking it ontop of lipstick :) | 19:32 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: seemingly, there's an interface called MNotificationSink which "Notification displayers" are supposed to implement | 19:33 |
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| javispedro | obviously swipe implements it | 19:33 |
| MohammadAG | so they forgot to impelement eventDeleted? | 19:33 |
| MohammadAG | le* | 19:33 |
| javispedro | no, but this has all the stuff I at least want | 19:34 |
| javispedro | this interface is called with stuff like "Notification(MNotification& m) | 19:34 |
| javispedro | and it can signal "notificationRemovalRequest" | 19:34 |
| MohammadAG | oh right | 19:35 |
| javispedro | https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-systemui/blobs/master/src/libnotificationsystem/notificationsink.h | 19:35 |
| javispedro | it even has some docs there | 19:35 |
| javispedro | so, technically, my watch daemon will have to export an implementation of that | 19:36 |
| * javispedro ponders why that header is not public then | 19:36 | |
| alterego | That's what I need, a way to share notifications between all my meego devices. | 19:37 |
| javispedro | oh, package libnotificationsystem-dev | 19:38 |
| javispedro | it even has docs | 19:38 |
| javispedro | they just forgot to put them in harmattan-dev | 19:38 |
| javispedro | verrry nice. | 19:39 |
| alterego | I used to have a script that showed notifications on my laptop from my N900 when I got sms messages. | 19:39 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, so does it actually work :P | 19:40 |
| javispedro | need to try | 19:40 |
| javispedro | so far, I think it does work | 19:42 |
| MohammadAG | how do you know? | 19:42 |
| javispedro | because two apps already implement the interface, systemui itself (to show the flag icon), and the closed swipe | 19:43 |
| javispedro | so, unless there's a hardcoded list somewhere ... ;P | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | oh yeah, the flag icon | 19:45 |
| hiemanshu | 48 hours to N9 Launch, where is my new firmware? | 19:49 |
| javispedro | right behind you! | 19:50 |
| javispedro | now that I know how to connect to XMPP, who needs new firmware | 19:50 |
| hiemanshu | I need skype | 19:50 |
| javispedro | ending calls with the power button is how real men do it! | 19:50 |
| crevetor | javispedro: I want twitter on my events feed | 19:50 |
| MohammadAG | hiemanshu, what? | 19:50 |
| MohammadAG | 48 hours? | 19:50 |
| crevetor | and less bugs | 19:50 |
| hiemanshu | MohammadAG: http://twitter.com/#!/NokiaUAE/status/115444164627415040 | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | I have twitter on my events feed :P | 19:51 |
| hiemanshu | and not being able to pick up calls | 19:51 |
| crevetor | MohammadAG: how ? | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | crevetor, not in a legal way | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | hiemanshu, wait, so it's on sale in 2 days? | 19:51 |
| hiemanshu | yup | 19:51 |
| dm8tbr | hiemanshu: did you check which plugins are available in telepathy? | 19:51 |
| crevetor | :) | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | when can I trade my N950 for it? :P | 19:52 |
| hiemanshu | dm8tbr: never got around to it, too busy with real life | 19:52 |
| hiemanshu | moving places, family stuff and such | 19:52 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* | 19:52 |
| dm8tbr | just saying... | 19:52 |
| hiemanshu | yeah, maybe when I am at work tomorrow | 19:53 |
| bedahr | hm, I'm getting an error from aegis when accessing the contacts... my manifest looks like this: http://pastebin.com/n36TVjc6 | 19:53 |
| hiemanshu | I still haven't got my internet at home, I am on via quassel2go on my n900 | 19:53 |
| bedahr | and that's the error I get: http://pastebin.com/Ym2MKE5f | 19:54 |
| bedahr | any ideas? might it have something to do with the "missing checksum" that I get during packaging? | 19:54 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, I'd love some sample code if you get it working :P | 19:57 |
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| vitna | hy | 20:23 |
| vitna | hi | 20:23 |
| vitna | what about this channel? | 20:23 |
| vitna | u are harmattan devs? | 20:24 |
| hiemanshu | yeah | 20:25 |
| hiemanshu | we are secretly nuclear scientists too though | 20:25 |
| hiemanshu | MohammadAG: did you procure the nuclear reactor to make fuel for the jet engine? | 20:26 |
| vitna | can u kill elop with your resoruces? | 20:26 |
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| hiemanshu | we haev a different mission, to take over the world! | 20:27 |
| MohammadAG | hiemanshu, yes, but unfortunately there was a leak that may sink the US | 20:27 |
| dm8tbr | no, but I can make you disappear from this channel... | 20:27 |
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| hiemanshu | MohammadAG: thats fine, who cared about the US anyways | 20:27 |
| vitna | dm8tbr...sorry is a joke | 20:28 |
| vitna | someone know when will be released an update for N950? | 20:29 |
| Tronic | Those who know cannot tell. | 20:29 |
| Tronic | My guess is soon after N9 is available. | 20:30 |
| dm8tbr | that is the common best guess, yes | 20:30 |
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| vitna | ok | 20:32 |
| vitna | the problem is that the availability of N9 is a mistery too | 20:33 |
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| *** hiemanshu changes topic to "A cozy little place for pure harmattan device and development discussions | No discussion that requires NDA please!| And no asking about newer firmware | Developers check this: http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | MeeGo N9(|50) CE on its way, MOSLO still missing, discuss in #meego-arm please | RIP lcuk, lets all pray for him | logs: http://mg.po" | 20:35 | |
| javispedro | you _destroyed_ the topic! | 20:36 |
| hiemanshu | fixing, give me a few | 20:36 |
| Venemo | "And no asking about newer firmware"??? hiemanshu??? SRSLY??? | 20:36 |
| Venemo | well, anyway, I was never asking ABOUT the newer firmware... I was only asking FOR the newer firmware... :P | 20:37 |
| vitna | what about you talk here? | 20:38 |
| vitna | if n9 isnt commercialized yet | 20:38 |
| vitna | all about the ux harmattan is a secret | 20:38 |
| vitna | or not? | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | please don't cram /topic with epic instructions and smalltalk | 20:39 |
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| Venemo | vitna, not a secret at all... | 20:40 |
| *** hiemanshu changes topic to " A cozy little place for pure harmattan device and development discussions | No discussion that requires NDA please!| Developers check this: http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | MeeGo N9(|50) CE on its way, MOSLO still missing, discuss in #meego-arm please | RIP lcuk, lets all pray for him | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/" | 20:40 | |
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| hiemanshu | Sorry for the spam guys | 20:40 |
| Venemo | np | 20:40 |
| vitna | yes i want to know what are the topics here | 20:40 |
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| hiemanshu | vitna: soccer | 20:40 |
| vitna | ok | 20:41 |
| vitna | someone here is from a country in wich n9 will be commercialized? | 20:41 |
| vitna | bye boys have fun! | 20:46 |
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| alterego | yay :) | 20:53 |
| hiemanshu | alterego: whats up :P | 20:54 |
| alterego | Nothing, just need to implement one more transition (remove items from my super QML grid) and I'm ready to attach it to real data :) | 20:55 |
| alterego | Basically, I have two "home" views, one is like maemo5, but you can move about your open applications. | 20:56 |
| alterego | And the other is a normal applications launcher grid view, where you can move around and remove your apps. | 20:56 |
| alterego | This is a kind of harmattan clone for MeeGo CE | 20:56 |
| alterego | And it is coming along realy nicely :) | 20:57 |
| Venemo | alterego, you making a MeeGo UX? | 20:58 |
| alterego | Trying to yeah. | 20:59 |
| alterego | w00t has done some cool work getting QML code to replace the MTF home stuff in his lipstick project. | 20:59 |
| alterego | I'm kind of augmenting it with some funky QML and help. | 20:59 |
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| MohammadAG | umm | 21:05 |
| MohammadAG | does turning on the LED needs some special Aegis related crap? | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | no | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | not afaik | 21:08 |
| MohammadAG | Package led-event-notifier: denied 'mce::LEDControl' -- origin '' does not allow it | 21:08 |
| MohammadAG | Package led-event-notifier: denied 'mce::LEDControl' for '/usr/bin/led-event-notifier' -- origin '' does not allow it | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | all same as on fremantle | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh, via mce/dbus. NFI | 21:09 |
| * alterego wonders off to do some stuff | 21:09 | |
| MohammadAG | well, that's a day's work lost | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | aegis manifest requesting mce::LEDControl token? | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | I didn't write any manifest | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, but you could edit it AIUI | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Mk6UVxJM | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | congrats, you spotted another misconfig of aegis | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | others call it bug | 21:12 |
| MohammadAG | oh for fucks' safe | 21:13 |
| MohammadAG | sake | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | or maybe there's a reason why only genuine Nokia pkgs may request mce::LEDControl | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | it maximum safety relevant XP | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's | 21:13 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, ping | 21:13 |
| javispedro | what? | 21:14 |
| javispedro | ah, aegis. | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~$ /usr/bin/led-event-notifier | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | sh: /usr/bin/led-event-notifier: Operation not permitted | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | under develsh | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | this is annoying | 21:15 |
| MohammadAG | I had it all working without aegis | 21:15 |
| javispedro | so, um, yeah | 21:15 |
| javispedro | not allowed for even ovi apps seemingly | 21:15 |
| MohammadAG | is there a way to make it run | 21:16 |
| MohammadAG | where are you checking btw? | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | accli -I | 21:16 |
| javispedro | /var/lib/aegis/restok/restok.conf | 21:16 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, and is there any way to run the binary? | 21:17 |
| MohammadAG | at least on my device? | 21:17 |
| javispedro | by doing the unseal.ko thing you will bypass the -EPERM, but I don't know if MCE itself implements a separate cotnrol for it | 21:18 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, I already did that | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder if there's actually such a check. Maybe there's simply no mce::LEDControl defined and checked, so aegis blows chunks on your app requesting it | 21:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sounds weird, I know | 21:19 |
| javispedro | there's probably a check, /sbin/mce links to libcreds.so.2 | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | there probably isn't | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | I'm using DBus directly | 21:19 |
| javispedro | I need to someday extend my fake signer to add tokens.. | 21:19 |
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| MohammadAG | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~$ dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.mce /co | 21:20 |
| MohammadAG | m/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_led_pattern_activate string:"PatternCommunication" | 21:20 |
| MohammadAG | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.1702" (uid=29999 pid=9977 comm="dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_cal") interface="com.nokia.mce.request" member="req_led_pattern_activate" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.nokia.mce" (uid=0 pid=9465 comm="/sbin/mce --force-syslog ")) | 21:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: just for a test remove that token request from your pkg's manifest | 21:20 |
| javispedro | but this is different frm the error message you pasted above | 21:20 |
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| MohammadAG | I don't care about aegis rejecting it | 21:20 |
| MohammadAG | it'll still run | 21:20 |
| MohammadAG | but the LED won't light up | 21:20 |
| javispedro | when this -- sh: /usr/bin/led-event-notifier: Operation not permitted-- happens, what does dmesg say ? | 21:20 |
| javispedro | ah, so it _does_ run | 21:20 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, that's when running it under develsh | 21:21 |
| javispedro | binhash.py it will fix that | 21:21 |
| javispedro | but still won't fix the dbus problem | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | done that | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | it still doesn't run under develsh | 21:21 |
| * javispedro feels déjàvu | 21:21 | |
| MohammadAG | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# python ./binhash.py /usr/bin/led-event-notifier | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | 9990003 23386 (0,0,33261)s no 5e30f8ec0e356adef047311c3e20972faf251237 | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | at this point what should I do? | 21:22 |
| javispedro | and what does dmesg say? | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | [162548.351959] Aegis: led-event-notifier verification failed (source origin check) | 21:22 |
| javispedro | and before that? | 21:22 |
| javispedro | source origin check? O.o | 21:22 |
| javispedro | you have changed the file after binhashing it or something like that? | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6mbzGxV8 | 21:23 |
| MohammadAG | nope | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's a "firewall" in dbus, and there's aegis checking what credentials to assign to a binary when starting it (AIUI) | 21:23 |
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| MohammadAG | wooh, works | 21:24 |
| javispedro | for some reason binhash is not working on your system.. | 21:24 |
| javispedro | now works? :P | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | works what? | 21:24 |
| MohammadAG | LED activates on call | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | what did you do? | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | if anyone wants it I'll upload it | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Harmattan/led-event-notifier_0.0.1_armel.deb | 21:26 |
| dm8tbr | I'd love to see 'led on if notifications >0' | 21:31 |
| MohammadAG | technically it just activates the LED on eventsAdded and deactivates it on screen unlocked | 21:32 |
| MohammadAG | not the double tap, the whole unlock (slide out of lockscreen) | 21:33 |
| MohammadAG | but yeah, better than nothing I guess | 21:33 |
| dm8tbr | oooh, shiny! | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess the pattern is editable in mce.ini as usual | 21:35 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 21:35 |
| MohammadAG | it's the one provided by Nokia | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | string:"PatternCommunication" I see | 21:36 |
| MohammadAG | oh dorms, how I love your upload speed | 21:36 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 21:36 |
| MohammadAG | 10 minutes for 10 MBs | 21:36 |
| MohammadAG | guess I should start measuring speed by MB/min | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds not so bad | 21:37 |
| MohammadAG | except that the 10 mins aren't going down every minute | 21:37 |
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| MohammadAG | and percentage is going down instead of up... | 21:38 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder how bad tethering is | 21:38 |
| MohammadAG | I guess it doesn't help there's a group video call + 700MB download + youtube upload | 21:41 |
| MohammadAG | if only the N950 rotated videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTw-nQVMPng | 21:54 |
| deimos | how to do a separator like those in setting ? | 21:56 |
| deimos | I mean the separator lines | 21:56 |
| MohammadAG | it's a list | 21:56 |
| deimos | no, I want to separate some components | 21:57 |
| deimos | list ? | 21:57 |
| MohammadAG | it's a list of MContentItems | 21:57 |
| deimos | ah, thanks | 21:57 |
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| bedahr | okay the contacts stuff is working fine now; The only thing missing now is navigation: Anybody got an idea on how to start a navigation to a given location? | 22:00 |
| bedahr | I found qml-drive but the dbus-interface doesn't seem to provide anything useful | 22:01 |
| bedahr | it does however refer to a "geoUrl" property when starting it but I haven't found out how to pass a value for that | 22:01 |
| MohammadAG | maps parameter here | 22:01 |
| bedahr | MohammadAG: that'd require the full maps application to be running, right? | 22:02 |
| bedahr | or what are you referring to? | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | bedahr, yes? | 22:02 |
| bedahr | hm... I'd like to launch directly into the turn by turn navigation with a given destination | 22:02 |
| bedahr | they are separate applications | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | sec then | 22:02 |
| bedahr | as maps only starts drive-qml with the given destination it should be extremely easy but I can't find any documentation... | 22:03 |
| bedahr | source code would help :P | 22:03 |
| MohammadAG | drive-qml "geo:0,0?searchTerm=Israel%20Israel%20Jerusalem&action=driveTo" | 22:03 |
| bedahr | MohammadAG: awesome! | 22:03 |
| MohammadAG | normal exec | 22:04 |
| bedahr | thanks a lot | 22:04 |
| MohammadAG | anytime :) | 22:04 |
| MohammadAG | there's a syntax for that thing somewhere | 22:04 |
| MohammadAG | geo:59.4366,24.7686 | 22:04 |
| bedahr | actually, the seraching thing is perfect | 22:05 |
| bedahr | is there a way to skip the "Drive To" step as well? | 22:05 |
| bedahr | (i.e. just make it pick the first search result) | 22:05 |
| MohammadAG | doubt it | 22:05 |
| bedahr | hm... | 22:05 |
| bedahr | too bad | 22:06 |
| bedahr | so the user can say "Drive to Paris" and then still has to tab two buttons on screen xD | 22:07 |
| MohammadAG | see you have to say Mutha at the end | 22:07 |
| bedahr | what do you mean? | 22:08 |
| MohammadAG | bad joke | 22:08 |
| bedahr | sorry I ruined it then :P | 22:09 |
| javispedro | wtf | 22:09 |
| javispedro | stupid QtDbus is showing on introspection a method it does not handle | 22:09 |
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| alterego | My Mock swipe UX :) http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/grande/screencasts/grande-dashboard-20110918-01.avi | 23:36 |
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| MohammadAG | alterego, I'd change the easing curve | 23:41 |
| MohammadAG | otherwise, nice :D | 23:41 |
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