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| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: fmrx works, somehow :-D | 00:10 |
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| javispedro | heh | 00:12 |
| javispedro | about the RDS parser, remember it's just ten or so lines long :) | 00:12 |
| javispedro | plus I failed to understand why here I wasn't getting D blocks when I should, thus the "Oh, a D block" message :) | 00:13 |
| javispedro | I now think D blocks are sent out on low signal conditions for $UNKNOWN_REASONS to me. | 00:13 |
| RST38h | moo javispedro | 00:16 |
| javispedro | moo | 00:16 |
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| MohammadAG | javispedro, that FM Radio app/concept out yet? :P | 00:39 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: the test app is out | 00:39 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902&page=6 | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: FMTX now! :) | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: Have you tried it on the RDA n9? | 00:40 |
| MohammadAG | right, I'll start on an MTF app soon :p | 00:40 |
| javispedro | I will try fmtx just to for the fun | 00:40 |
| MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, do they have an FM Radio on RDA? :P | 00:40 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: read the thread for future developments, we are trying to do it "right" | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | They have a n9 on RDA | 00:41 |
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| SpeedEvil | Presumably the building isn't shielded, so can pick up FM | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Or you could turn on the n900 Tx, which is probably in the same room | 00:41 |
| javispedro | Can you get _physical_ audio out of RDA? | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't think so | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - mic | 00:41 |
| javispedro | Mic from a nearby device? =) | 00:42 |
| javispedro | hehe | 00:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Or even the same one | 00:42 |
| javispedro | touché | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: (low signal -> DBlock) confirmed. It seems they show up when I mess with antenna | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess mixer et all is overstrained with getting FMRX->CPU->speakers plus mic->CPU | 00:44 |
| javispedro | nah, it would be more stressed during a phone call for ex. | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm no, a phonecall is using a different McBSP for cmt<->cpu | 00:46 |
| javispedro | same here | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 00:46 |
| javispedro | fmrx->cpu is using #3 | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok then | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | still you'll have fun setting mixer up for this scenario to listen to own speakers via mic | 00:47 |
| javispedro | not hard | 00:51 |
| javispedro | it's just parec -r | pacat -p :) | 00:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sure, that's not the problem, but I doubt the mixer settings will be correct OOTB for that | 01:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | as we got no friggin (even block-)schematics, I got no clue how the stereo mic is hooked up to the SOC | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | if those are digital mics connected to SOC via dedicated buses, I'd not expect too many problems with it. OTOH I expect them to be connected to the mixer chip, and that's what will introduce some fun into the picture | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | if the policy for stereo playback gets activated and sets up the mixer for that usecase, then probably mic is shut down per default | 01:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw no parec nor pacat here | 01:11 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: you probably already enabled the analog mixer loopback by accident when playing with alsamixer | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | yoh, I did | 01:11 |
| javispedro | s/analog mixer/analog mic->speaker | 01:11 |
| javispedro | it's two controls away virtually | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, I'd guess there are some mux and preamps involved as well | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | some gain settings | 01:12 |
| javispedro | all the settings are exposed.. | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | but you are just guessing what they actually do, as we ... see above | 01:13 |
| javispedro | and there's no special initialization for recording from the mic | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, that's actually strange, as usually mic would need some VDD or micbias enabled prior to starting to use it for recording | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | also frequently you want to configure the sampling rate, number of channels etc pp | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | let's agree on "it's no real fun to mess with audio mixer when you got *no* docs about the hw lineup you're dealing with" | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's like "here, all the screws to adjust your car engine are exposed. I give you a screwdriver and then you go ahead" | 01:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ooops that's been the tensioning screw for the camshaft belt | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-P | 01:20 |
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| offs_ | Do you know in what package are https://www.developer.nokia.com/swipe/ux/pages/View_Headers.html ? | 01:40 |
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| Venemo_N950 | mornin | 09:32 |
| Venemo_N950 | anyone alive yet? | 09:34 |
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| spenap | I'm rather undead, which is something.. | 09:36 |
| * dm8tbr needs to caffeinate a bit more | 09:37 | |
| Venemo_N950 | heheh | 09:37 |
| Venemo_N950 | I've had an "English breakfast tea" from Twinnings | 09:37 |
| Venemo_N950 | it has a forgettable taste, but it had my necessary caffeine dose nevertheless | 09:38 |
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| special | you need proper tea :p | 09:40 |
| radiofree | super charge yourself, have a mug of black coffee instead :) | 09:41 |
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| Venemo_N950 | nope, coffee doesn't do good to me | 09:42 |
| Venemo_N950 | special, my favourite is Twinnings's Lady Grey tea | 09:43 |
| radiofree | same here, hate the stuff, I just view it as my caffeine delivery mechanism | 09:43 |
| special | terrible, both of you :p | 09:44 |
| special | real tea doesn't come crushed up in bags and cardboard boxes in your grocery store | 09:44 |
| Venemo_N950 | whoever was lady Gray, she must have been a pretty hot woman for having her name on such a good tea. | 09:44 |
| special | and real coffee is delicious. | 09:44 |
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| Venemo_N950 | special, yeah, well, educate me about tea then | 09:45 |
| radiofree | special: Twinnings is on a higher level then the grocery store tea :) | 09:45 |
| Venemo_N950 | radiofree, agreed! | 09:45 |
| radiofree | It's impractical to make a pot every time you need a cup of tea | 09:45 |
| special | I had twinings when I was in the UK | 09:46 |
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| special | http://www.adagio.com/teaware/ingenuiTEA_teapot.html I use one of these, and lots of loose-leaf tea from there and other places | 09:52 |
| special | and a variable-temperature kettle, that is critical. | 09:52 |
| special | that said, the lady gray was my favorite of the twinings teas I tried :p | 09:53 |
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| radiofree | I've seen a "Russian Earl Grey", not tried it | 09:55 |
| xarcass | radiofree: keep staying away from this crap | 09:55 |
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| radiofree | ok, noted ;) | 09:56 |
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| * xarcass thinks that the best kettle (and pot) is a glass 1-liter can with two razor blades connected to a 1-meter of 2-thread insulated wire | 09:59 | |
| special | xarcass: not unless you add a temperature sensor :p | 09:59 |
| xarcass | sensors are for losers. real men always know the right moment to pull razors off the water | 10:00 |
| xarcass | the secret is to watch the bubbles | 10:01 |
| special | any bubbles is too many bubbles | 10:01 |
| special | depending on the type of tea | 10:02 |
| * special takes tea very seriously | 10:02 | |
| * xarcass thinks that quality of tea can always be improved by adding more tea to the water | 10:03 | |
| xarcass | i'd like to take tea seriously too, but i haven't got sense of smell (completely), so i'm hardly an expert for there's only taste what's left for me | 10:05 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hey again | 10:23 |
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| Venemo_N950 | morning djszapiN9 :) | 10:26 |
| djszapiN9 | hiemanshu, the font size change does not take effect, not even after a reboot | 10:26 |
| djszapiN9 | hello bello Venemo ;) | 10:26 |
| hiemanshu | djszapiN9: that was a dummy element, fixed in newer version | 10:26 |
| hiemanshu | as in works in newer version | 10:26 |
| djszapiN9 | good | 10:26 |
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| Termana | morning | 10:49 |
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| Stecchino | Any chance there is an N950 update coming soon? | 11:54 |
| Stecchino | the 06/21 version is missing some functionality the I need of my main phone, so have to keep on using the N900 | 11:55 |
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| Stecchino | but I'm developing an app that needs to be tested in real life, so obviously would like to do that using the N950 | 11:56 |
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| kkito | hello | 11:59 |
| djszapi | Stecchino: yeah, we all know that, but we do not know. Would make sense for Nokia to give a new release with the upcoming sales device in my opinion, but that is just speculation. | 12:00 |
| Stecchino | well, best before actually | 12:00 |
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| Stecchino | I've even discovered the N950 is lacking some HW things w.r.t. N9 for my use case | 12:01 |
| Stecchino | mainly sensors | 12:01 |
| djszapi | does not really matter what we speculate :) | 12:02 |
| Stecchino | just a general question: who here is developing commercial apps for harmattan (or plans to). | 12:02 |
| Stecchino | would like to know if there are any 3rd party devs left for mobile Qt | 12:02 |
| Tronic | Stecchino: Many might do but cannot tell. | 12:03 |
| djszapi | Stecchino: I did. | 12:03 |
| Stecchino | djszapi: at Nokia you mean? | 12:03 |
| djszapi | yes, but that does not matter since it was not the platform team. | 12:05 |
| Tronic | I only wish they'd put those useless "<whatever> news" apps in a separate category or entirely remove them from Store. | 12:05 |
| Tronic | When browsing new applications it is difficult to find the new actual apps when the list is full of that crap. | 12:06 |
| Tronic | I guess that movie trailers, lock screen images and such already go into separate categories and thus don't appear on the list. | 12:07 |
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| MohammadAG | <Stecchino> the 06/21 version is missing some functionality the I need of my main phone, so have to keep on using the N900 | 12:36 |
| MohammadAG | like what? | 12:36 |
| MohammadAG | I need ideas for apps :p | 12:36 |
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| Stecchino | MohammadAG: google accounts plugin | 12:37 |
| Stecchino | I know it exists and was working very well. So wonder why it was not in the 0621 firmware | 12:37 |
| jreznik | Tronic: these news are quick way how to have gazzilions "apps" to compete with android and iphone... but take a look to these app stores - it's mess | 12:37 |
| MohammadAG | Stecchino, may I suggest looking at the N9s on RDA? | 12:37 |
| djszapi | Stecchino: I heard that it is not because of it was not working. It was a different issue, namely certificate. | 12:38 |
| MohammadAG | Stecchino, http://i55.tinypic.com/2e3ykwl.jpg :P | 12:38 |
| Stecchino | MohammadAG: I can do that for UI testing sure. But I can't shake and throw the RDA devices around, which I need for my app :) | 12:38 |
| Stecchino | MohammadAG: later firmware obviously | 12:39 |
| MohammadAG | Stecchino, the one in the link? | 12:39 |
| MohammadAG | it's 22-6, the version you all have | 12:39 |
| Stecchino | djszapi: yeah, that is likely it. Though it was working fine back in March | 12:39 |
| MohammadAG | I just pulled some files :p | 12:39 |
| Stecchino | MohammadAG: you soooo have to tell us how :) | 12:40 |
| djszapi | Stecchino: Skype has been also working for a while, still not there ;-) | 12:40 |
| MohammadAG | Stecchino, also this http://i54.tinypic.com/2m85gsw.jpg | 12:40 |
| MohammadAG | though that didn't up well | 12:42 |
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| kkito | how to activate skype account? | 12:49 |
| kkito | theres the package out there? | 12:49 |
| MohammadAG | no | 12:49 |
| kkito | MohammadAG: what files i need to download from rda to be able to activate it? | 12:51 |
| MohammadAG | I doubt it's legal, do some dpkg -L magic and you'll know ;) | 12:51 |
| MohammadAG | btw | 12:52 |
| MohammadAG | anyone tried to listen to music with the N950 in a jeans pocket while it's locked? | 12:52 |
| MohammadAG | it skips parts of the song and sometimes goes back a song or two | 12:52 |
| artemm | Actually just putting it to jeans pocket is dangerous :) | 12:52 |
| macmaN | MohammadAG: i do that all the time. hasnt experienced that at all. | 12:53 |
| macmaN | havent* | 12:53 |
| artemm | not ones it chatted with my facebook friends from my pocket | 12:53 |
| MohammadAG | macmaN, long distances? | 12:53 |
| artemm | *not once | 12:53 |
| artemm | I must be happy it didn't call any phone sex | 12:53 |
| macmaN | MohammadAG: well several tens of minute of walking for sure. | 12:53 |
| MohammadAG | it merged three contacts for me :p | 12:53 |
| artemm | what helps is disabling unlock on doubletap | 12:53 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, thinking it's that | 12:54 |
| artemm | then it will wait until power button press | 12:54 |
| MohammadAG | or the volume keys can somehow skip the song | 12:54 |
| MohammadAG | but I like the double tap | 12:54 |
| artemm | far not that cool, but it doesn't behave wrong then | 12:54 |
| MohammadAG | I have my phone on the desk in class, and I just have to double tap the screen to see the clock | 12:54 |
| artemm | oh, I love double tap, it's just too expensive when it is misused by the pocket ) | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | your ass can swipe the screen? :P | 12:55 |
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| artemm | it would be great if they improved wrong touch detection | 12:55 |
| artemm | that's not too hard to improve it quite a bit | 12:55 |
| MohammadAG | I don't put it in my ass pocket :P | 12:56 |
| macmaN | i would actually *love* volume keys to be able to skip songs | 12:56 |
| MohammadAG | I'd forget it and sit on it | 12:56 |
| MohammadAG | macmaN, for some reason I think it's there | 12:56 |
| macmaN | its mondo annoying having to unlock the screen all the time and swipe into music player | 12:56 |
| MohammadAG | I mean, I leave the player in the details view (when clicking "...") | 12:56 |
| MohammadAG | and it skips/goes back a song | 12:56 |
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| kkito | hey, i am looking for this component https://www.developer.nokia.com/swipe/ux/pages/View_Headers.html (View header) but i am unable to find it. Do you know where it is? | 12:59 |
| kkito | is it available in the current SDK? | 12:59 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hello | 13:02 |
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| macmaN | MohammadAG: you mean it skips with volume buttons while locked? | 13:05 |
| MohammadAG | I don't know how it skips, but it skips | 13:06 |
| macmaN | im trying right now both ways. volbuttons only regulate vol. | 13:07 |
| MohammadAG | I can't reproduce it | 13:07 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hmmmm | 13:07 |
| macmaN | another thing im finding worrysome about the media player - i cannot play a folder | 13:09 |
| macmaN | some various artists albums have the separate album names in tags. so there's no way to actually play this various artists collection. | 13:09 |
| Venemo_N950 | macmaN, that' | 13:09 |
| leinir | well no, of course you can't... that would imply exposing the filesystem, which you're not supposed to do | 13:10 |
| macmaN | i guess the only way is playlists | 13:10 |
| macmaN | leinir: i know right, after all we'd be more powerful than android then | 13:10 |
| leinir | the real solution would be to support albums with multiple artists | 13:10 |
| leinir | macmaN: Bah - "fixing" it by exposing the filesystem structure is such a shortcut... | 13:11 |
| macmaN | side note: is there any fix for the pkgmgrd getting stuck problem after any installation activity? it pretty much takes a fresh reboot to install or uninstall any software. | 13:14 |
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| macmaN | well, aside from "wait for new fw" | 13:14 |
| djszapi | if that would be the case, you could not install developer packages after each other. | 13:15 |
| djszapi | that was* | 13:15 |
| djszapi | fortunately, we can do that. | 13:16 |
| Stecchino | MohammadAG: the RDA N9 (at least one of them) seems locked up. Shouldn't it be rebootable? | 13:16 |
| macmaN | i have not been able to identify the exact condition after which installations just stop working. | 13:17 |
| macmaN | but killall pkgmgrd has been documented a long time ago as a workaround | 13:17 |
| djszapi | They need a stepset to reproduce, I guess, otherwise invalid until that. | 13:18 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 13:29 |
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| thp | Jaffa: in which timezone are you? "morning".. | 13:48 |
| djszapi | timezone does not unconditionally say what a person feels "morning" :) | 13:49 |
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| Jaffa | thp: UK. It's still morning (with 31 mins to go at the time ;-)) | 14:00 |
| djszapi | kkito: I am afraid you need to implement your own component. At least, I am not finding it anywhere. | 14:00 |
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| kkito | djszapi: thx... but why is it documented if there is not such component :( | 14:02 |
| djszapi | kkito: I might be wrong, but I am not finding it. I hope someone can help with it. | 14:03 |
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| djszapi | kkito: There were many other things as well in the documentation without any available component or anything related :( | 14:06 |
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| RST38h | djszapi: Ok, try QDeclarativeView::setSource(QUrl("qml:File.qml")) in your code | 14:12 |
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| RST38h | See it go bonkers with the network off | 14:12 |
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| djszapi | RST38h: does your contain that line ? | 14:13 |
| djszapi | your code* | 14:13 |
| RST38h | Not any more. | 14:16 |
| djszapi | right, so it does not change anything for me since I could not replicate the bug here. | 14:16 |
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| BrettQ | what is the password for the user account on the N950? | 16:06 |
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| radiofree | there isn't one? | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | [Notice] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, as previously promised today will be the day where the network goes up in flames... I mean, where we carry out some upgrades to the ircd. I'm about to kill off a number of servers and the affected user count is ~8K! Hopefully this won't take long but I suggest you brace for impact.. | 16:08 |
| djszapi | https://github.com/fpletz/kernelroll | 16:08 |
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| djszapi | BrettQ: or you can set something up with root. | 16:08 |
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| radiofree | BrettQ: http://linuxproblem.org/art_9.html | 16:09 |
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| radiofree | basically just copy your public key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, then you can login as user | 16:10 |
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| radiofree | or as djszapi, set one as root | 16:10 |
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| BrettQ | djszapi: thanks...my brain isn't awake yet this morning | 16:11 |
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| djszapi | heh, it is not possible to delete music files from the music player library | 16:14 |
| djszapi | views via object menu | 16:15 |
| djszapi | that is funky :) | 16:15 |
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| Venemo | is there an #ifdef or qmake config, or some runtime info that I can reliably check to see if I'm on Harmattan or not? | 16:25 |
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| djszapi | Venemo http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=25584&postcount=6 | 16:28 |
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| Venemo | thx djszapi | 16:28 |
| Venemo | djszapi, so it's not possible yet? | 16:29 |
| Venemo | djszapi, achipa says "with the final SDK in the .pro you will have" | 16:29 |
| djszapi | http://wiki.meego.com/Porting_Fremantle_Applications_to_Harmattan#Harmattan_scope | 16:29 |
| djszapi | "Note that these are available only in the final Harmattan target." -> with bold letters :) | 16:30 |
| Venemo | OMG | 16:30 |
| Venemo | so it's not possible yet | 16:30 |
| djszapi | correct | 16:30 |
| * Venemo wants the final Harmattan target | 16:30 | |
| achipa | soon TM | 16:30 |
| * Venemo also wants new software for his N950 | 16:30 | |
| achipa | soon TM #2 | 16:31 |
| Venemo | :P | 16:31 |
| deimos | Venemo, want you to try mine ? :) | 16:31 |
| achipa | with the workaround on that wiki page you should be set (at least for this particular issue) | 16:32 |
| Venemo | deimos, your what? | 16:33 |
| deimos | app | 16:33 |
| deimos | just finish to test before publish | 16:33 |
| deimos | it is mediadownloader, to watch, download from google image and youtube | 16:34 |
| Venemo | what app is it? | 16:34 |
| djszapi | testing is for bad coders ;) | 16:34 |
| deimos | :) | 16:34 |
| deimos | yes I am bad | 16:35 |
| Venemo | so you think I'm a bad coder? | 16:35 |
| Venemo | I'll take that as a personal insult. | 16:35 |
| deimos | no I am | 16:35 |
| Venemo | [15:34] <djszapi> testing is for bad coders ;) ----> so very not true. | 16:35 |
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| djszapi | Venemo: well, testing, debugging and documenting =) | 16:42 |
| Venemo | a good developer can do all those things. | 16:42 |
| frals | documenting is fuckin dull thou | 16:43 |
| Venemo | yeah | 16:43 |
| deimos | well, for anyone want to try http://alnitak.homelinux.org/mediadownloader/mediadownloader_0.0.1_armel.deb | 16:46 |
| achipa | Venemo: wait a tic... there was a qtcreator update, right ? | 16:47 |
| achipa | that should mean a new qmake... | 16:47 |
| Venemo | achipa, yeah, 2.3.0, Built on Aug 25 2011 at 15:14:45 | 16:49 |
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| djszapi | why should qtcreator update mean a qmake update ? | 16:50 |
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| djszapi | qmake is different from qtcreator. | 16:50 |
| djszapi | it can also be used from command line, kdevelop and the like. | 16:51 |
| MohammadAG | 16:47 djszapi: testing is for bad coders ;) | 16:52 |
| MohammadAG | you were being sarcastic right? | 16:52 |
| djszapi | sorry, but no sake about arguing of a joke really, if you did not get the joke, just skip it :) | 16:53 |
| MohammadAG | arguing? nope, just wondering | 16:53 |
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| javispedro | hi djszapi | 16:53 |
| djszapi | hello javispedro :) | 16:53 |
| Venemo | hey MohammadAG :) | 16:53 |
| djszapi | how is fmradio coming along ? | 16:53 |
| MohammadAG | heya Venemo | 16:54 |
| Venemo | javispedro, should you need a GUI for the radio, let me know and I'll make you one :) | 16:54 |
| Venemo | javispedro, we could also involve wazd in the design if he isn't too busy | 16:54 |
| MohammadAG | should you need an MTF version, ping me :p | 16:54 |
| djszapi | +1 | 16:54 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, can you make irc chatter sort channels alphabitcally? | 16:54 |
| javispedro | djszapi: you're right about that bt sco bit, that's why I refer when I talk about bluetooth hands free profile | 16:55 |
| djszapi | not by default, please. | 16:55 |
| javispedro | (but sco is more accurate :) ) | 16:55 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG, I plan to add sorting options, yes. please add it to the wishlist :) | 16:55 |
| javispedro | that it collides with fmrx, I mean. | 16:55 |
| MohammadAG | djszapi, sorry, used to xchat :p | 16:55 |
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| javispedro | the policy manager didn't seem to do anything about it | 16:55 |
| javispedro | s/that's why/that's what | 16:56 |
| MohammadAG | anyone disassembled the N950? | 16:57 |
| djszapi | MohammadAG: actually moving channel into your order would make much more sense | 16:57 |
| djszapi | not sure how to design that with this swipe Ui interface. | 16:58 |
| djszapi | "/move window NUMBER" would also make sense for hackers :p | 17:00 |
| djszapi | javispedro: sorry, but I do not understand the problem. I thought we discussed it and everything is straight-forward what will happen. What makes you doubt aboutanything ? :) | 17:01 |
| javispedro | djszapi: I am not pointing a problem, rather agreeing on that the problem you mentioned exists =) | 17:02 |
| djszapi | javispedro: what problem ? | 17:03 |
| javispedro | djszapi: collision with bt sco | 17:04 |
| djszapi | yep, but this profile will solve that. | 17:04 |
| djszapi | not in this release, not even in the next imo though.. | 17:05 |
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| Venemo | ttyl | 17:17 |
| Venemo | bb | 17:17 |
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| djszapi | Venemo: I realized what actually is causing the connection issue I told you more times. That might be a high-priority bgu to fix. | 17:21 |
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| fiferboy | Found it - /var/lib/dpkg/status | 18:41 |
| fiferboy | Unbroke my package management after installing my own qt-components :D | 18:41 |
| djszapi | hi fiferboy =) | 18:43 |
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| fiferboy | djszapi, hi | 18:44 |
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| djszapi | rzr: you broke the soprano installation by the old db package in the shared repository. | 19:16 |
| djszapi | let me get rid of that old version from the shared repository. | 19:16 |
| djszapi | rzr: the public SDK provides a much newer version ;) | 19:16 |
| djszapi | rzr: is it a dependency for some package, as in hard coded old dependency ? If that is the case, please rename it so that they do not collide in any way. | 19:17 |
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| djszapi | hi Venemo :) | 19:24 |
| Venemo_N950 | hello djszapi :) | 19:25 |
| djszapi | Venemo: so there is the bug about the connection. I think it is critical to fix since it is hard to debug. | 19:25 |
| Venemo_N950 | how are you today? | 19:25 |
| Venemo_N950 | agreed! | 19:25 |
| djszapi | Venemo: did you get the finding when I last told it ? | 19:26 |
| Venemo_N950 | dunno | 19:26 |
| djszapi | Venemo: it is because I did not somehow have internet coonection. What you could do is to open up the internet connection dialog like the browser does when there is no internet connection established. | 19:26 |
| Venemo_N950 | you changed some port setting or maybe ssl, and it worked? | 19:26 |
| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, is there an api for that? | 19:27 |
| djszapi | also, if I fix the internet connection "manually" after I launched the app, it never connects again, there is no automatic "detection". | 19:27 |
| djszapi | yes, there is. | 19:27 |
| djszapi | you can open up any settings dialog with no issue | 19:27 |
| Venemo_N950 | yeah, that's a known shortcoming, expect it to be fixed | 19:27 |
| Venemo_N950 | the app will also display a message when the connection is lost | 19:27 |
| djszapi | about the internet connection detection, no idea... | 19:27 |
| Venemo_N950 | and it will give you a button that will reconnect you | 19:28 |
| djszapi | sounds funny that is the problem, but annoying, and remember how much we debugged it. | 19:28 |
| Venemo_N950 | for detection, there is Qt Mobility bearer api | 19:28 |
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| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, I also will obtain a new firmware version tomorrow, so I can test with the new software. | 19:29 |
| djszapi | good :) | 19:30 |
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| djszapi | About launching a certain Settings page: You can check the wanted applets desktop file for the proper method to launch it, eg, about-applet can be launched by "dbus-send --print-reply --session --dest=com.nokia.DuiControlPanel / com.nokia.DuiControlPanelIf.appletPage string:About product" | 19:30 |
| djszapi | its desktop file contains this: http://paste.kde.org/119563/ | 19:30 |
| djszapi | so find the alternative and you are done. | 19:30 |
| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, not sure why Nokia doesn't want to publicize it... when we asked the contact in Nokia Hungary, the response was "of course". | 19:31 |
| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, the internet connection dialog is a settings plugin? | 19:31 |
| djszapi | try to launch grob without internet connection | 19:31 |
| djszapi | it will open up the relevant internet settings page. | 19:31 |
| Venemo_N950 | mhm | 19:31 |
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| Venemo_N950 | yeah, it pops up regularly methinks | 19:32 |
| djszapi | yep, if you type for instance google.com, it pops up. If you do the same, that is perfect. | 19:32 |
| Venemo_N950 | mhmm | 19:32 |
| djszapi | Venemo: duicontrolpanel-networkapplet - Cellular network settings applet. ? | 19:36 |
| djszapi | and here is the desktop file: http://paste.kde.org/119581/ | 19:39 |
| djszapi | so: "dbus-send --print-reply --session --dest=com.nokia.DuiControlPanel / com.nokia.DuiControlPanelIf.appletPage string:Phone network" | 19:40 |
| djszapi | so for the connection tick, check, if there is no stuff, call this. | 19:40 |
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| djszapi | Venemo: actually it is even documented here: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta/api_refs/xml/daily-docs/libduicontrolpanel/servicefw.html | 19:49 |
| Venemo | thanks djszapi :) | 19:57 |
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| Venemo | djszapi, so, #ifdef harmattan, and then I can just link to a lib and call a single function, and that's it, right? | 20:02 |
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| djszapi | just execute the dbus call if the internet connection is established. | 20:04 |
| Venemo | what dbus call? | 20:05 |
| djszapi | "dbus-send --print-reply --session --dest=com.nokia.DuiControlPanel / com.nokia.DuiControlPanelIf.appletPage string:Phone network" | 20:06 |
| Venemo | I just need to call this method: | 20:06 |
| Venemo | dcpIf->appletPage("Internet"); //To show "internet applet" for example | 20:06 |
| Venemo | according to your doc | 20:06 |
| djszapi | oh sure, you can use the "low-level" way as well | 20:07 |
| djszapi | that class probably resolves all the relevant common dbus thingy. | 20:07 |
| djszapi | *sigh* c-obs is still master at producing no output for hours, days... | 20:17 |
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| arcean | it's just me or libmeegotouch-dev from harmattan sdk doesn't include MColorList? | 20:24 |
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| arcean | *contain | 20:25 |
| djszapi | that is correct here as well | 20:27 |
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| djszapiN9 | Venemo, i do not get the away message of people either | 22:28 |
| djszapiN9 | in my special case, it would be nice to know, if my friend is actually sleeping or not :p | 22:29 |
| djszapiN9 | venemo most of the crash comes from the people list messagebox closing | 22:31 |
| djszapiN9 | you could test it, to open that up, scroll in this, typing, closing by X, stuff like that | 22:32 |
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| kkito | hello | 22:57 |
| kkito | is it possible to install nokia meego qt component into the qt creator simulator? | 22:59 |
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