| *** V13 has quit IRC | 00:05 | |
| lcuk | the qmldial is very pretty :) | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| lcuk | javis could modify it for a compass | 00:09 |
| *** xarcass has quit IRC | 00:14 | |
| trx | RST38h i have seen in the logs that you have tried to get a handle/access to the toolbar in application without using QML, have you had any success? | 00:25 |
| *** epage has quit IRC | 00:32 | |
| *** epage has joined #harmattan | 00:37 | |
| RST38h | BTW, which part of packaging process generates the .deb filename? | 00:59 |
| RST38h | Need to replace _armel with _harmattan. Doable? | 00:59 |
| kimju | why would you need to do that? | 01:01 |
| RST38h | to distinguish between harmattan and fremantle packages? | 01:01 |
| kimju | use the -localpart of the version for that. | 01:01 |
| kimju | x.y.z-1fremantle1 vs. x.y.z-1harmattan1 | 01:02 |
| RST38h | meh | 01:02 |
| *** seif has joined #harmattan | 01:02 | |
| *** Scifig_ has quit IRC | 01:10 | |
| *** javispedro has joined #harmattan | 01:16 | |
| *** lardman has joined #harmattan | 01:18 | |
| trx | RST38h any suggestion for my question? | 01:20 |
| *** seif has quit IRC | 01:29 | |
| *** rcg1 has quit IRC | 01:43 | |
| *** epage has quit IRC | 01:44 | |
| *** seif has joined #harmattan | 01:44 | |
| *** epage has joined #harmattan | 01:48 | |
| SpeedEvil | Does anyone hav any suggestions for screen protectors? | 01:50 |
| MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, screen is the last thing I'd worry about | 01:54 |
| SpeedEvil | And yes | 01:54 |
| MohammadAG | the device's body seems kinda cheapish | 01:56 |
| MohammadAG | but I must admit, I got something similar to a scratch (obviously it wasn't), a good wipe with some tissues and water took care of it | 01:57 |
| kimju | zagg's invisibleshield, full body cover would be nice. but changes of them making one for such obscure device are pretty low. | 01:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Leak them the specs as the iphone 6, tell them you have a proto. | 02:02 |
| SpeedEvil | And you are willing to see if it fits. | 02:02 |
| *** Arkenoi has joined #harmattan | 02:03 | |
| javispedro | my n950 already has a small on the back scratch that was made with a grain of sugar =) | 02:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | hmmm, I have a flickable area, that has a content bit, has anyone made a flickable area scroll when a text field is selected that would normally be ccovered by the keyboard? | 02:07 |
| * rZr is going to release a video demo | 02:12 | |
| *** smoku has left #harmattan | 02:16 | |
| lardman | night all | 02:16 |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 02:16 | |
| javispedro | omg free nfc/bt headphones with the n9 in australia | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | meh | 02:38 |
| Arkenoi | confirmed, n950 with xmpp lasts longer than n900, but do not expect a week on active standby. 2 days of moderate use is more likely | 02:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Who was looking for drawings of compasses? | 02:41 |
| SpeedEvil | http://i.imgur.com/WzJAr.jpg | 02:42 |
| SpeedEvil | compass rose from the parking map at University of Houston, apparently | 02:42 |
| rZr | /usr/bin/mplayer -cache 4096 -playlist http://rzr.online.fr/video.m3u | 02:45 |
| Arkenoi | rumors say nokia spent $1B on maemo. having one of 300 phones that cost $3,3M per unit is truly royal gift :) | 02:46 |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 03:01 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 03:03 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 03:03 | |
| *** elpuri has quit IRC | 03:08 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 03:10 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 03:13 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 03:13 | |
| DocScrutinizer51 | rZr: stunning POV | 03:15 |
| *** deimos has quit IRC | 03:18 | |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the more if you consider how many percen of that 10^9 bucks were eaten by MSSF and other stuff done because "community is just not good enough" | 03:19 |
| rZr | what are you talking about ? | 03:22 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hell, it's hard to believe in "we don't have the manpower and budget for looking into it" when you as for disclosing blob src like bme, while otoh there's been $1B for developing same blob | 03:23 |
| rZr | ah ok that open/close dilemma | 03:24 |
| *** elpuri has joined #harmattan | 03:24 | |
| rZr | i can understand | 03:24 |
| *** faenil has joined #harmattan | 03:29 | |
| faenil | hi everyone | 03:30 |
| *** CaCO3 has quit IRC | 03:31 | |
| Arkenoi | that reminds me old GEOS days | 03:31 |
| Arkenoi | "we cannot do, we cannot disclose, we do not own it" | 03:31 |
| Arkenoi | though nokia could buy the fscking company out for a fraction of money spent on paper clips | 03:32 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer51: the $1B has probably been spent on "developing this framework that will be our future API ... .... er, no, developing this other framework that will be our future API ... .... er .... " | 03:32 |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 03:32 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 03:34 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 03:34 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 03:35 | |
| * rZr http://rzr.online.fr/q/amiga# #Amiga #SmartPhone is real ! #video of me playing battle #chess on #harmattan #N950Club ... #AmigaWillNeverDie | 03:45 | |
| * Arkenoi btw wonders if EPOC was really way better than GEOS? | 03:47 | |
| *** faenil has quit IRC | 03:48 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 03:49 | |
| Elleo | oh wow, I haven't thought about battle chess for years | 03:51 |
| Elleo | there was a futuristic edition too iirc | 03:51 |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 03:51 | |
| Elleo | also bonus points for having seagull strike installed :P | 03:51 |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 03:51 | |
| rZr | :) | 03:51 |
| rZr | Elleo: do u plan to collect hiscores on SGS ? | 03:52 |
| Elleo | I had been thinking of making an online scoreboard | 03:53 |
| Elleo | haven't got around to it yet though, seagull strike was just a days fiddling around with box2d and qml really so I haven't spent a massive amount of time on it | 03:53 |
| rZr | i thought about that to know if pple are testing software or not :) | 03:55 |
| rZr | there are already some online services (unfree) that manage scores and players community | 03:56 |
| Elleo | yeah, it's a shame we don't have popcon installed on the dev devices by default so we could track what software people are fiddling with most | 03:56 |
| rZr | yes popcon should be good to setup | 03:56 |
| rZr | but it's a question of priorities | 03:57 |
| Elleo | yeah | 03:57 |
| Elleo | it'd also be nice if OBS gave download statistics from repositories | 03:57 |
| Elleo | but again, just a nice little thing to have, but nothing especially high priority | 03:57 |
| rZr | btw about sgs do you know hack to set to fullscreen mode w/out using qt api ? | 03:58 |
| rZr | i wish .desktop files could manage that | 03:58 |
| Elleo | nope, sorry | 03:59 |
| Elleo | you mean without modifying existing software? | 03:59 |
| rZr | yes | 03:59 |
| Elleo | yeah, no idea | 04:00 |
| Elleo | not sure if it's possible to write something that would set x11 window hints on other application's windows for you | 04:00 |
| rZr | or any sdl window | 04:00 |
| Elleo | (and I don't know if harmattan's display stuff would obey it) | 04:00 |
| rZr | well i know about sdl but it seems to fail | 04:01 |
| javispedro | rZr: what seems to fail? | 04:01 |
| rZr | sdl fullscreen | 04:01 |
| javispedro | elaborate | 04:01 |
| rZr | i'll have to double check tough | 04:01 |
| rZr | javispedro: i just tested uae | 04:02 |
| rZr | see the video there is an issue to fix | 04:02 |
| javispedro | which video? | 04:03 |
| * rZr http://rzr.online.fr/q/amiga# #Amiga #SmartPhone is real ! #video of me playing battle #chess on #harmattan #N950Club ... #AmigaWillNeverDie | 04:03 | |
| javispedro | but there's a huge list there | 04:04 |
| * javispedro watches the first one | 04:06 | |
| javispedro | that is not fullscreen | 04:06 |
| javispedro | you need to pass SDL_FULLSCREEN in SetVideoMode, probably UAE has an option to do so somewhere | 04:07 |
| rZr | that was -O a | 04:07 |
| rZr | but it didnt work | 04:07 |
| rZr | i'll double check tomorow | 04:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | does anyone know the font that harmattan uses for the application headers? | 04:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | or what values are possible from the Label platformStyle ??? | 04:22 |
| * javispedro now thinks it is impossible to be vsynced on compositor | 04:28 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 04:30 | |
| MohammadAG | http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Harmattan/cli-file-sender_0_0_1_armel.deb | 04:38 |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 04:41 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 04:49 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 04:49 | |
| *** epage has quit IRC | 04:52 | |
| *** epage has joined #harmattan | 04:52 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 05:11 | |
| TSCHAKeee | after a whole day of insane hacking on the UI | 05:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | finally was able to mimic most of what I need | 05:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | http://hphotos-ash4.fbcdn.net/291506_10150246759427115_716957114_7698715_3482910_o.jpg | 05:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | and http://hphotos-ash4.fbcdn.net/286981_10150246759382115_716957114_7698714_5066998_o.jpg | 05:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | both are being done literally from the same qml, from a single state | 05:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | no hackish JS logic | 05:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | but using a nested set of flows to get what i want. | 05:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | http://hphotos-snc7.fbcdn.net/290763_10150246760257115_716957114_7698729_2671670_o.jpg <-- alongside some of the other apps | 05:15 |
| GAN900 | TSCHAKeee, nice. | 05:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | thanks, that wound up being one hell of a learning experience | 05:17 |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 05:17 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 05:17 | |
| GAN900 | I still maintain throwing fields like that in front of a user is ugly, ugly, ugly, though. :P | 05:18 |
| GAN900 | (why hasn't zeroconf taken off more) | 05:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | well, it only shows up | 05:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | if we can't determine the orbiter's parameters automatically | 05:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | and we need that screen at least temporarily for now | 05:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | but it will go away | 05:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | GAN900: http://pastebin.com/iNHfrAH4 <-- the relevant qml | 05:19 |
| GAN900 | So, is your opinion improved or worsened now? | 05:20 |
| MohammadAG | how do I store a string in qml? | 05:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | GAN900: at least i can do it | 05:21 |
| TSCHAKeee | i hope it will be improved soon | 05:21 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's important that the components are able to actually produce stuff that adheres to Nokia's UI guidelines | 05:22 |
| TSCHAKeee | because they are very nice guidelines, but as it is right now, it takes some manual hacking to be able to pull it off | 05:22 |
| MohammadAG | actually even better, wtf does qrc:/qml/FolderBrowser.qml:52: TypeError: Result of expression 'ShareUIWrapper.share' [undefined] is not a function. mean | 05:28 |
| *** antman8969 has joined #harmattan | 05:44 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 05:46 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 05:47 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 05:47 | |
| *** mikhas_ has joined #harmattan | 07:05 | |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 07:06 | |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 07:09 | |
| *** epage has quit IRC | 07:21 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer has joined #harmattan | 07:31 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer2 has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 07:52 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 08:13 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 08:14 | |
| *** xarcass has joined #harmattan | 08:14 | |
| *** antman89691 has joined #harmattan | 08:50 | |
| *** antman8969 has quit IRC | 08:51 | |
| *** antman8969 has joined #harmattan | 08:54 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 08:54 | |
| *** antman8969 has quit IRC | 08:58 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 09:11 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 09:11 | |
| *** hiemanshu_N950 has joined #harmattan | 09:21 | |
| *** hiemanshu_N950 has quit IRC | 09:24 | |
| *** hiemanshu_N950 has joined #harmattan | 09:26 | |
| *** hiemanshu_N950 has quit IRC | 09:31 | |
| *** hiemanshu_N950 has joined #harmattan | 09:34 | |
| *** hiemanshu_N950 has quit IRC | 09:37 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 09:42 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 09:57 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 09:57 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 10:12 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 10:14 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 10:14 | |
| RST38h | yohoho multitouch works | 10:19 |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 10:25 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 10:26 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 10:27 | |
| *** leinir has joined #harmattan | 10:45 | |
| *** antman89691 has quit IRC | 10:51 | |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 10:55 | |
| *** leinir has joined #harmattan | 10:55 | |
| *** leinir has joined #harmattan | 10:55 | |
| Kypeli | Hmm. Is there a bug in the N950 that if I once install a package with a missing icon file, it will never again show an icon for the app? | 11:03 |
| Kypeli | How can I reset the icon cache for an app..? | 11:03 |
| *** rcg has joined #harmattan | 11:07 | |
| MohammadAG | I think icons are refreshed every time you swipe to the app view | 11:08 |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 11:19 | |
| *** leinir has joined #harmattan | 11:19 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 11:21 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 11:26 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 11:27 | |
| tomma | Kypeli, when you install package with icon it will refreshcache etc to show icon... if it does not show it then package propably does not have icon | 11:28 |
| Kypeli | tomma: Hmm. Ok... but. | 11:29 |
| Kypeli | tomma: Let's see. | 11:29 |
| Kypeli | Yeah, right you are. | 11:30 |
| Kypeli | Now wonder why it doesn't have it... | 11:30 |
| *** spenap has joined #harmattan | 11:30 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 11:51 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 11:53 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 11:53 | |
| Kypeli | tomma: Now I can see that the icon is in the package and installed on the device as well in apps/ folder with other installed app icons. | 11:54 |
| Kypeli | tomma: But my apps' icon is still just green... any ideas? | 11:54 |
| Kypeli | Oh - and if I try to uninstall it, I don't get a red X on it. That's strange | 11:54 |
| xarcass | Kypeli: you may have a look into application's desktop file and then check whether icon file exists | 11:55 |
| Kypeli | It points to the .svg file in the desktop file, but I replaced the default .png with my own. I have not touched the .desktop file. | 11:56 |
| Kypeli | Should I replace the Icon= line in .desktop with a path to the .png file? | 11:56 |
| xarcass | Kypeli: check this on the device, not in source tree, cause deployment tools screw these files sometimes | 11:57 |
| *** lardman has joined #harmattan | 11:58 | |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 11:58 | |
| *** lardman has joined #harmattan | 11:58 | |
| lardman | morning | 11:58 |
| Kypeli | xarcass: Thanks, that was the case. When deployment could not find the .png (since I moved it by accident) it replaced it with the path to .svg | 12:00 |
| Kypeli | And now when I moved the .png back to the correct place, it was still using the .svg... | 12:00 |
| xarcass | Kypeli: i've just noticed that in my desktop file is also an .svn line, but in applications view proper .png is shown. it should be named <project-name>.png | 12:01 |
| Kypeli | Yes, now that I changed that it works | 12:01 |
| Kypeli | Automatic deployment is fine, but it should then also work and give me more control than what Harmattan no gives me... | 12:01 |
| *** CaCO3 has joined #harmattan | 12:03 | |
| tomma | Kypeli, Icon= line should just contain icon name | 12:04 |
| xarcass | you may always use postinst and postrm scripts - that's what i did | 12:04 |
| Kypeli | tomma: Yep! Thanks. Just annoying when Qt Creator deployment changed it to the .svg file that is not deployed to the device and did not tell me | 12:04 |
| xarcass | it also screws Exec= line | 12:05 |
| Kypeli | That's a fail. | 12:05 |
| tomma | i think i have some broken Qt Creator as it does not brake anything =) | 12:06 |
| xarcass | tomma: which version/platform? | 12:08 |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 12:09 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 12:11 | |
| tomma | xarcass, gentoo linux, creator is some custom build 2.2.1 | 12:12 |
| xarcass | tomma: lucky you. i can't afford such environment, cause i should stick to official release.. | 12:14 |
| *** smoku has joined #harmattan | 12:14 | |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 12:15 | |
| *** leinir has joined #harmattan | 12:15 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 12:18 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 12:36 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 12:37 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 12:37 | |
| *** Arkenoi has quit IRC | 12:42 | |
| *** Arkenoi has joined #harmattan | 12:42 | |
| *** faenil has joined #harmattan | 12:52 | |
| faenil | any useful link about deploying on the N950 guys? | 12:59 |
| faenil | Just getting started with it :D | 12:59 |
| *** harbaum has joined #harmattan | 13:01 | |
| rZr | faenil: debian.org/ docs but i am unsure if that is the fastest path :) | 13:04 |
| faenil | oh :D isn't there anything written by Nokia? | 13:05 |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 13:10 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 13:11 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has quit IRC | 13:11 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 13:11 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 13:12 | |
| rcg | faenil: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Platform_Guide/Publishing_with_Harmattan_Platform_SDK/Packaging_your_application_with_Harmattan_Platform_SDK | 13:33 |
| faenil | thanks rcg :) | 13:33 |
| rcg | there is some information targetted at packaging for harmattan.. though, i don't know how uptodate of good this is | 13:33 |
| faenil | I see. | 13:33 |
| faenil | marioboikov pointed me here http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Single_Instance_Harmattan_Applications | 13:34 |
| rcg | well imho this is more about optimizing your application startup.. once you already have something that can be deployed ;) | 13:35 |
| faenil | yeah :) | 13:37 |
| rcg | what is your current goal? just deploy on the n950 for testing your app or creating some package that can be build via obs such that others can install from your repo? | 13:37 |
| faenil | just testing atm | 13:37 |
| faenil | I'm making a 3d game | 13:37 |
| rcg | did you try the "deploy" feature in the sdk yet? | 13:37 |
| faenil | nope haven't done anything yet, just asked for links since I read of many problems with aegis, and didn't want to waste time on that if not needed :) | 13:38 |
| rcg | well.. if you "just" develop your application aegis shouldn't be much of a concern.. it only steps in your way if you are trying to get deeper in the system | 13:39 |
| faenil | right :) | 13:39 |
| faenil | but who knows :) | 13:39 |
| rcg | hehe.. yeah you'll never know ;) | 13:40 |
| faenil | :D | 13:40 |
| faenil | anyway using qtcreator is enough right? | 13:40 |
| rcg | i think its best to start and code away.. to me coding a 3d game doesnt sound like aegis will be much of a problem | 13:40 |
| faenil | I mean the Harmattan package and QtSDK | 13:40 |
| *** gri has joined #harmattan | 13:40 | |
| rcg | yes | 13:40 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 13:40 |
| faenil | I have already written some code | 13:41 |
| faenil | wrote a simple .obj importer | 13:41 |
| faenil | and camera and models classes :) | 13:41 |
| faenil | almost only opengl es | 13:41 |
| rcg | once you got the sdk there is a simple template for a Harmattan Application which essentially already creates a very basic demo application | 13:41 |
| rcg | aye, ic :) | 13:42 |
| gri | faenil: Doesn't Qt3D have all these things? (didn't read channel history yet) | 13:42 |
| faenil | of course | 13:42 |
| faenil | but I have never worked with 3d in my life yet | 13:42 |
| faenil | so I want to start "from scratch" | 13:42 |
| rcg | probably the first thing you should do is setup your maemo device config such that you can automatically deploy to the n950 from the sdk | 13:42 |
| gri | Oh ok :) | 13:42 |
| faenil | I'll use high lvl libs in the next project maybe :) | 13:43 |
| faenil | device config? what should I setup there? | 13:43 |
| faenil | oh but you mean device config on qtsdk? | 13:43 |
| faenil | or on the device itself? | 13:44 |
| *** harbaum has quit IRC | 13:44 | |
| faenil | gone :D | 13:48 |
| faenil | rcg? : | 13:51 |
| faenil | :D | 13:51 |
| *** Guest85197 has quit IRC | 13:52 | |
| *** Termana has joined #harmattan | 13:52 | |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 13:52 | |
| *** Termana is now known as Guest83044 | 13:52 | |
| rcg | faenil: sorry.. had to go afk | 13:53 |
| faenil | np :) | 13:53 |
| rcg | the sdk has a feature that allows to automatically deploy your project to your device | 13:53 |
| rcg | all you need is ssh access via wlan to the device and setup the qtsdk accordingly | 13:54 |
| faenil | oh ok | 13:54 |
| faenil | so you meant device config on the qtcreator | 13:54 |
| rcg | yep.. Tools -> Options -> Maemo | 13:54 |
| faenil | right right ;) I'll do that | 13:55 |
| faenil | I'm symbian qt programmer :) | 13:55 |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #harmattan | 13:55 | |
| rcg | :) | 13:55 |
| faenil | has anyone experienced bugs with the browser? | 13:56 |
| faenil | yesterday | 13:56 |
| faenil | I was on engadget.com | 13:56 |
| faenil | then clicked on the address bar | 13:56 |
| faenil | and type "nok" | 13:56 |
| faenil | www.nokia.com came in as a suggestion | 13:56 |
| faenil | I clicked on that, and it went to another engadget webpage, but a new one | 13:56 |
| faenil | I did that again, and again it went to a new engadget review or whatelse | 13:57 |
| *** CaCO3 has quit IRC | 13:57 | |
| faenil | I think the problem is both the mouseevent is dispatched to both the list in which nokia.com appears, and the webpage underneath (which is not visible anyway) | 13:58 |
| faenil | because I see Nokia.com loading, and then it switches to engadget again | 13:58 |
| faenil | as if nokia.com was clicked, and then I clicked on another part of engadget webpage | 13:58 |
| faenil | did anyone notice this? | 13:59 |
| rcg | ic.. didn't encounter that one yet.. though i had a similar issue of clicks propagating through elements stacked above each other once | 14:00 |
| faenil | right | 14:00 |
| faenil | so that must be it :) | 14:00 |
| rcg | in my case i had a list view and above that opened a sheet.. clicking at places in the sheet where elements of the list were underneath resulted in the mouse area of the delegate of the list items being triggered | 14:01 |
| faenil | it must be the same thing... | 14:01 |
| rcg | yes sound similar | 14:02 |
| faenil | then | 14:02 |
| faenil | in the settings screen | 14:02 |
| faenil | when you scroll down all the way | 14:02 |
| faenil | and then you scroll up | 14:02 |
| faenil | you see the first two entries | 14:02 |
| faenil | which are invisible | 14:02 |
| faenil | and reappear after 2 seconds | 14:02 |
| faenil | while all the other ones are always visible | 14:03 |
| faenil | okay | 14:04 |
| faenil | the browser bug | 14:05 |
| faenil | can be reproduced | 14:05 |
| faenil | easily :) | 14:05 |
| rcg | well afaik nokia already said that our development version contains many bugs they know of | 14:05 |
| rcg | and which will be fixed in the final release | 14:05 |
| faenil | I see... | 14:05 |
| faenil | well should I report it anyway | 14:05 |
| faenil | ? | 14:05 |
| rcg | hence, i don't know whether its worth to track these down or not | 14:05 |
| faenil | mmm | 14:05 |
| rcg | actually i don't know | 14:05 |
| faenil | well it won't hurt :) | 14:05 |
| rcg | maybe someone else in here knows | 14:06 |
| faenil | lunch's ready | 14:06 |
| faenil | cya later :) | 14:06 |
| rcg | i usually tend to keep just coding :) | 14:06 |
| rcg | cya.. enjoy your meal | 14:06 |
| *** NIN101 has joined #harmattan | 14:09 | |
| ajalkane | I haven't bothered to report anything else than API bugs as we have so old firmware | 14:10 |
| gri | Anyone knows the git repository where I can get the latest Qt for harmattan? (gitorious.org/qt has no debian directories) | 14:22 |
| *** trx has quit IRC | 14:55 | |
| *** trx has joined #harmattan | 15:01 | |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 15:14 | |
| faenil | anyway why aren't we getting fw updates? | 15:21 |
| ajalkane | Maybe because harmattan ppl are too busy | 15:25 |
| *** Venemo has joined #harmattan | 15:26 | |
| *** faenil has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| *** epage has joined #harmattan | 15:32 | |
| *** piggz has quit IRC | 15:45 | |
| *** faenil has joined #harmattan | 15:49 | |
| *** Smtih has joined #harmattan | 16:02 | |
| faenil | on question... | 16:03 |
| faenil | what is the reason why FPS drops in browser's favourite screen? | 16:04 |
| faenil | I mean there are only strings there... | 16:04 |
| *** CaCO3 has joined #harmattan | 16:12 | |
| *** faenil has quit IRC | 16:13 | |
| *** faenil has joined #harmattan | 16:19 | |
| *** hardaker has joined #harmattan | 16:46 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 16:53 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 16:54 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 16:54 | |
| *** epage has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** hardaker2 has joined #harmattan | 17:04 | |
| *** hardaker has quit IRC | 17:04 | |
| faenil | out of curiosity... | 17:18 |
| faenil | The browser is phenomenal | 17:18 |
| faenil | lagless experience all the way | 17:18 |
| faenil | but when I plug usb cable while browser | 17:18 |
| faenil | and the "usb charging" notification appears on top | 17:18 |
| faenil | the fps drops like hell | 17:18 |
| faenil | until the notification goes away | 17:18 |
| faenil | how does that come? | 17:19 |
| faenil | I don't think that notification is so resource hungry :D | 17:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | The browser is really shit in w22. | 17:28 |
| *** epage has joined #harmattan | 17:28 | |
| faenil | ? :) | 17:30 |
| faenil | what's w22? | 17:31 |
| *** piggz has joined #harmattan | 17:32 | |
| faenil | 22/06's firmware? | 17:32 |
| arfoll | week 22 of the yr | 17:34 |
| faenil | oh ok | 17:34 |
| faenil | is there any news about a new public firmware? | 17:35 |
| faenil | or smthg like ota updates..don't knwo | 17:35 |
| faenil | is 1.2011.22-06 the w22 fw you're talking about? | 17:47 |
| GAN900 | faenil, no. | 18:05 |
| GAN900 | I'm quite certain we'll be waiting for retail. | 18:05 |
| faenil | oh :( | 18:05 |
| faenil | okay... | 18:05 |
| faenil | and is that sure? | 18:05 |
| *** hardaker2 has quit IRC | 18:05 | |
| faenil | are we getting an update when the retail version is ready? | 18:05 |
| GAN900 | Couldn't say for certain, but given the timeline it seems pretty sure. | 18:06 |
| faenil | right | 18:07 |
| faenil | and it should be half september of before? | 18:07 |
| GAN900 | I'd guess end of this month or sometime during next. | 18:08 |
| GAN900 | But that'd only be speculative. | 18:08 |
| faenil | ok | 18:08 |
| faenil | anyway do you know anything about glshader? | 18:08 |
| faenil | cause my software is working on my desktop | 18:09 |
| faenil | but it's not on the n950 | 18:09 |
| faenil | reporting "shader and program do not share the same context" | 18:09 |
| faenil | while they link correctly if I compile for desktop | 18:09 |
| tomma | is it OpenGl ES shader? | 18:19 |
| faenil | yep | 18:20 |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 18:22 | |
| faenil | and it works on my N8 too | 18:27 |
| faenil | it's failiny only on N950 | 18:27 |
| faenil | failing* | 18:27 |
| *** javispedro has joined #harmattan | 18:30 | |
| faenil | javispedro: have you had any problem with opengles on n950? | 18:31 |
| javispedro | no | 18:32 |
| faenil | I'm gettin "program and shader do not share same context" | 18:32 |
| faenil | while I have no problem on Desktop AND N8 | 18:32 |
| faenil | it's an error coming from addShader fun | 18:33 |
| javispedro | I don't know what framework you are using. | 18:33 |
| faenil | Qt... | 18:35 |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 18:35 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 18:35 | |
| faenil | QGLShaderProgram and QGLShader, + pure OpenGL ES | 18:35 |
| javispedro | well, no idea about Qt; make the smallest program that reproduces that and send it to them. | 18:35 |
| elpuri | faenil: i'm guessing you're setting opengl graphics system and then using QGLWidget, right? | 18:44 |
| faenil | I'm not setting the graphics system explicitly | 18:45 |
| faenil | but if it wasn't using opengl it would have reported "Opengl system is not active" | 18:46 |
| faenil | if I'm not wrong | 18:46 |
| faenil | anyway, yes I'm using GLWidget | 18:46 |
| javispedro | I guess that if you don't set the opengl graphics system the meego graphics system will keep destroying and recreating the egl context | 18:47 |
| *** Arkenoi has quit IRC | 18:47 | |
| elpuri | faenil: just compile the shaders in a reimplementd QGLWidget::initializeGL and you'll be fine | 18:47 |
| faenil | I'm doing that... | 18:48 |
| *** Arkenoi has joined #harmattan | 18:48 | |
| elpuri | put your code online | 18:48 |
| faenil | I'm already compiling the shaders in the initializeGL | 18:48 |
| faenil | lemme try setting the graphics system explicitly first | 18:48 |
| elpuri | don't bother | 18:49 |
| faenil | ok | 18:49 |
| elpuri | i can take a look if you put your code online | 18:49 |
| faenil | sure | 18:49 |
| faenil | I'm doing it | 18:50 |
| faenil | thanks ;) | 18:50 |
| faenil | elpuri: this is glwidget.cpp http://pastebin.com/xq2LWrF4 | 18:51 |
| faenil | imho the problem is caused by the fact that the qglshaderprogram is declared in an .h file statically | 18:52 |
| faenil | while qglshaders are declared in the code I attached | 18:52 |
| faenil | but anyway, it works on Desktop and N8 | 18:53 |
| *** epage has quit IRC | 18:57 | |
| *** offs_ has joined #harmattan | 19:02 | |
| offs_ | hello | 19:02 |
| offs_ | do you know how to link to pulseaudio ? | 19:02 |
| elpuri | faenil: your QGLShaderProgram gets constructed while the default graphics system's opengl context is active and you're adding shaders to it when your QGLWidget's context is active | 19:07 |
| elpuri | create the program in the initializeGL too | 19:07 |
| faenil | wait is there anything wrong in your explanation? | 19:08 |
| faenil | oh ok | 19:08 |
| faenil | got it | 19:08 |
| faenil | yeah as I guessed | 19:09 |
| faenil | but statically creating it in the initialize will make it unavailable to the paintGL | 19:09 |
| elpuri | have you heard of pointers?-) | 19:10 |
| javispedro | offs_: what do you mean by "link"? | 19:10 |
| faenil | ahahaha :P | 19:10 |
| elpuri | i think you know what to do next | 19:10 |
| offs_ | javispedro i get an undefuned reference to pa_simple_new | 19:11 |
| faenil | sure | 19:11 |
| faenil | ofc | 19:11 |
| offs_ | when linking | 19:11 |
| javispedro | offs_: pass "-lpulse-simple" | 19:11 |
| offs_ | lets try... | 19:11 |
| javispedro | (or use pkg-config --libs libpulse-simple) | 19:12 |
| offs_ | javispedro it works, thax :) | 19:12 |
| offs_ | thx | 19:12 |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 19:12 | |
| faenil | elpuri: so why does it work on N8 and desktop? | 19:14 |
| *** hardaker2 has joined #harmattan | 19:22 | |
| elpuri | faenil: their default graphics system doesn't create a opengl context | 19:23 |
| faenil | oh...ok | 19:23 |
| elpuri | if you would set their graphics system to "opengl" i guess you'd get the same error | 19:23 |
| faenil | do I have to set an icon to see my test app in N950's menu? | 19:24 |
| elpuri | create a "harmattan project" with qtc and copy all the boilerplate from there | 19:27 |
| faenil | okay so it's normal that it's not showing :) | 19:28 |
| *** offs_ has left #harmattan | 19:29 | |
| faenil | elpuri: okay it's working now, the app I mean , shader is linking :) | 19:29 |
| *** kkito has joined #harmattan | 19:29 | |
| kkito | hello | 19:29 |
| faenil | hi | 19:29 |
| kkito | the n950 killed my sim card :( | 19:29 |
| faenil | oops | 19:29 |
| SpeedEvil | kkito: Impressive. | 19:29 |
| kkito | I ve just removed it and it is not working anymore | 19:29 |
| SpeedEvil | kkito: Was it a microsim in an adaptor? | 19:29 |
| kkito | No, it was a normal sim card | 19:30 |
| SpeedEvil | Odd. | 19:30 |
| kkito | I recommend to shutdown the device before removing the sim | 19:30 |
| SpeedEvil | I did that, I wasn't quite sure. | 19:31 |
| SpeedEvil | Ideally, it should 'just work' | 19:31 |
| SpeedEvil | Because having the SIM socket out there makes it 'obvious' that you can just swap SIMs if you want to. | 19:31 |
| SpeedEvil | Are you sure it's the SIM that's dead, not the n950? | 19:32 |
| kkito | SpeedEvil, yes is the sim card | 19:32 |
| kkito | it is not working in the n900, or in the htc g1 either | 19:32 |
| SpeedEvil | It's not quite certain it is cmpletely unrelated to that - it might be a ESD related failure. | 19:34 |
| SpeedEvil | Are you in a dry environment? | 19:34 |
| kkito | javispedro: I was offs_ thx for your help, it works | 19:34 |
| kkito | SpeedEvil: no | 19:34 |
| SpeedEvil | I guess phone the cellco and get a replacement SIM | 19:35 |
| kkito | I have the cps2emu working as a qmlcomponent? and it just works so good | 19:35 |
| kkito | :P | 19:35 |
| kkito | now time to code the controls and menus and so cool transition effects :P | 19:35 |
| faenil | is there anything to recognize harmattan, something like Q_OS_HARMATTAN? | 19:35 |
| faenil | or any other way to recognize harmattan? | 19:36 |
| ajalkane | the examples use ifdef __arm__, which is of course a bit silly. But reveals there is currently no proper way. | 19:40 |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 19:40 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 19:40 | |
| faenil | ajalkane: hmmm...okay...thanks | 19:42 |
| alterego | kkito: that siounds really cool :) | 19:45 |
| *** DocScrutinizer51 has quit IRC | 19:45 | |
| *** Docscrutemp has joined #harmattan | 19:47 | |
| *** Docscrutemp is now known as DocScrutinizer51 | 19:47 | |
| faenil | is there anything wrong with this? | 19:48 |
| faenil | http://pastebin.com/MnNVjWU7 | 19:48 |
| faenil | please give it a look, only few lines | 19:48 |
| faenil | it reports "#elif with no expression" | 19:48 |
| kkito | faenil | 19:49 |
| kkito | #elif defined() | 19:49 |
| javispedro | #if defined(Q_OS_SYMBIAN), #elif defined(...), #else ... | 19:49 |
| faenil | oh... | 19:49 |
| faenil | lol | 19:50 |
| faenil | sorry | 19:50 |
| kkito | faenil: don't worry dude, it is a normal mistake :P | 19:50 |
| kkito | xD | 19:50 |
| faenil | I always used #ifdef and it always worked with 2 targets...if and else.. | 19:51 |
| faenil | here too for example :) | 19:52 |
| faenil | http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.7/src/corelib/kernel/qmath.h | 19:52 |
| Venemo | two question: | 19:53 |
| Venemo | s | 19:53 |
| Venemo | why is the X not appearing near my app's icon when I long-press the app menu? | 19:54 |
| javispedro | to uninstall? | 19:54 |
| Venemo | yes! | 19:55 |
| javispedro | you need to use the package manager: | 19:55 |
| javispedro | http://wiki.meego.com/User:Javispedro/N950 | 19:55 |
| Venemo | wut? but previously, it didn't require that | 19:55 |
| javispedro | it has never worked with dpkg -i | 19:55 |
| Venemo | when Qt Creator installed memory-game's package through SSH, the X was there. | 19:55 |
| javispedro | it does work if you install from the browser | 19:55 |
| javispedro | I don't know what Qt Creator does, probably call pkgmgr. | 19:56 |
| Venemo | seems that it does not | 19:56 |
| Venemo | or I dunno | 19:56 |
| Venemo | because the same didn't work for irc-chatter | 19:56 |
| javispedro | either way, if you firstly install from pkgmgr then you can upgrade with whatever method you want | 19:56 |
| javispedro | and I guess that if you firstly install frm dpkg -i nothing will add the X icon | 19:57 |
| Venemo | mhm. | 19:57 |
| faenil | damn the browser bug is annoying XD | 19:59 |
| Venemo | which one? | 19:59 |
| javispedro | which one? | 19:59 |
| javispedro | oh, heh. | 19:59 |
| faenil | if you open a webpage | 19:59 |
| faenil | and the click on address bar | 19:59 |
| tomma | i think creator uses dpkg | 19:59 |
| faenil | and open another webpage, it won't work, the page underneath will get the click too | 20:00 |
| faenil | and you'll be redirected to the previous page | 20:00 |
| faenil | try :( | 20:00 |
| javispedro | ah, yes | 20:00 |
| javispedro | and old one | 20:00 |
| javispedro | *an | 20:00 |
| faenil | yeah | 20:00 |
| faenil | and it's not browser only, it's qt bug | 20:00 |
| javispedro | sadly it does not always happen | 20:00 |
| faenil | well it always happens here :D | 20:01 |
| javispedro | reboot | 20:01 |
| javispedro | or if you find a page where it always happens, file a bug | 20:01 |
| Kypeli | Maybe you all seen this already, but I'll just paste it anyway since it's important (and a shame Nokia can't have this kind of stuff working...): http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Single_Instance_Harmattan_Applications | 20:01 |
| Venemo | Kypeli, hmm | 20:02 |
| faenil | kypeli: read that , yeah | 20:02 |
| Venemo | Kypeli, exactly the thing I was looking for | 20:02 |
| Kypeli | Cool | 20:02 |
| javispedro | ?? | 20:02 |
| javispedro | they tell you do add a _space_ between $(MAKE) and INSTALL_ROOT=.. | 20:02 |
| javispedro | ? | 20:03 |
| Kypeli | And one additional note: don't open the rules file with Qt Creator as it will remove the tab in the beginning and insert spaces - then your app wont install | 20:03 |
| faenil | oh... | 20:03 |
| faenil | mod the wiki then :P | 20:03 |
| Kypeli | I looked for an edit but couldn't find one. | 20:03 |
| Kypeli | Where would that edit button be? | 20:03 |
| Kypeli | Oh tehre | 20:03 |
| Kypeli | FOund it | 20:03 |
| Venemo | Kypeli, it is a SHAME that whoever wrote that blog post was misguided. Harmattan icons are 80x80, not 64x64 | 20:04 |
| faenil | good :) | 20:04 |
| javispedro | tomma: well it clearly has to invoke pkgmgr because it's the one that both does add the desktop file to the uninstall database as well as do the ".desktop icon from control file" trick that appears there | 20:04 |
| Kypeli | Venemo: Well, the default icon that Qt Creator uses is 64x64... so that's a bug too. | 20:05 |
| Kypeli | Sigh | 20:05 |
| javispedro | s/there/on this wiki page that is being discussed | 20:05 |
| Venemo | also... as qgil said several times, optification is UNNEEDED in MeeGo Harmattan. | 20:05 |
| Kypeli | Yes | 20:05 |
| Kypeli | Harmattan target is beta, but the quality of the Harmattan target is very low. | 20:05 |
| *** kkito has quit IRC | 20:06 | |
| faenil | looking forward to the fw update | 20:06 |
| Venemo | and the SDK update. | 20:06 |
| faenil | yup | 20:07 |
| *** kkito has joined #harmattan | 20:07 | |
| faenil | javispedro: the bug is always there | 20:08 |
| faenil | as long as there is something to click under the list entry you're hitting | 20:08 |
| faenil | of course | 20:08 |
| faenil | where can I file the bug? meego, qt...? | 20:11 |
| javispedro | faenil: developer.nokia.com/bugs/ | 20:12 |
| javispedro | faenil: which URL? | 20:12 |
| faenil | to reproduce the bug? | 20:13 |
| javispedro | faenil: I've tried hard and I did not manage to find a manner to reproduce that bug | 20:13 |
| faenil | any url | 20:13 |
| javispedro | no | 20:13 |
| faenil | :O | 20:13 |
| javispedro | surely not, just look at this channel: half of it has not heard about it | 20:13 |
| faenil | maybe they don't use bookmarks list | 20:14 |
| faenil | and put website directly | 20:14 |
| faenil | anyway | 20:14 |
| faenil | let's try with you :) | 20:14 |
| faenil | open engadget | 20:14 |
| faenil | it will open mobile view | 20:14 |
| faenil | then click on the address bar | 20:15 |
| faenil | it will open bookmark list | 20:15 |
| faenil | select a link in which there was a corresponding link in the engadget page | 20:15 |
| *** hardaker2 has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
| faenil | don't know if I have been clear :D | 20:15 |
| faenil | it will open the link you have selected in bookmark's view | 20:16 |
| faenil | and the switch to the engadget link | 20:16 |
| faenil | which was underneath | 20:16 |
| faenil | i.e both received mouseevent | 20:17 |
| javispedro | yes, i've seen it already myself | 20:17 |
| javispedro | ok, let's try | 20:17 |
| faenil | it works 100% here, all the times | 20:17 |
| spenap | faenil, yes, the suggestions list is letting the event go underneath | 20:18 |
| faenil | exactly :) | 20:19 |
| javispedro | yes, fails | 20:20 |
| javispedro | faenil: so, submit the bug and put exactly the instructions you showed me above | 20:20 |
| javispedro | engagdet seems to be a slow to render page, with loads of links and craps... probably the ideal test :) | 20:21 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 20:21 |
| javispedro | I think on snappier pages it might now as frequently, because the underlying view switches to the new page quickly before the second button event | 20:21 |
| javispedro | *it might not show as frequently | 20:22 |
| javispedro | faenil: put it on the Harmattan Device category | 20:23 |
| faenil | ok | 20:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | just go to your average pr0n site... :P | 20:25 |
| faenil | major or critical? :D | 20:25 |
| faenil | I'd also say blocker, the bookmark's view is unusable as it is :D | 20:26 |
| *** npm_ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** npm has joined #harmattan | 20:27 | |
| lcuk | mgedmin, ping | 20:29 |
| Venemo | alterego, ping | 20:30 |
| lcuk | heh curious | 20:31 |
| lcuk | the browser was in pinch zoom mode | 20:32 |
| lcuk | with 1 finger | 20:32 |
| Venemo | lcuk, yeah, I noticed it. if my other finger is a millimeter outside the screen, it still thinks it's there | 20:33 |
| faenil | hey guys :D | 20:34 |
| faenil | two software updates available! | 20:35 |
| faenil | :) | 20:35 |
| faenil | Store v3.12.047 | 20:35 |
| faenil | and sdk-connectivity tool v 0.4.4.+0m6 | 20:35 |
| faenil | I was notified via push | 20:37 |
| javispedro | oooooooold | 20:39 |
| Venemo | :D | 20:40 |
| faenil | :( | 20:40 |
| faenil | I knew the store was out | 20:40 |
| faenil | but I thought this was an update... | 20:40 |
| faenil | sorry opened the n950 yesterday | 20:40 |
| Venemo | faenil, no problem | 20:41 |
| Venemo | faenil, congrats on your N950 :) | 20:41 |
| faenil | :) | 20:41 |
| faenil | thanks :) | 20:41 |
| GAN900 | I want retail. | 20:41 |
| * SpeedEvil nails a fox tail to GAN900. | 20:42 | |
| faenil | yeah... | 20:42 |
| faenil | the store is smoother on N8 though :) | 20:42 |
| GAN900 | The Store is gloriously buggy. | 20:42 |
| * SpeedEvil cannot experience the full panolply of bugs. | 20:43 | |
| SpeedEvil | Silly ID issue. | 20:43 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: did you reflash again? =) | 20:43 |
| *** kkito has quit IRC | 20:44 | |
| SpeedEvil | I reflashed again, yes. | 20:44 |
| SpeedEvil | With no change | 20:44 |
| javispedro | I mean, another time ? | 20:44 |
| *** harbaum has joined #harmattan | 20:44 | |
| SpeedEvil | I flashed the first time with problems, but it worked eventually, then flased with ocf, then flashed with ocf again. | 20:44 |
| SpeedEvil | Doesn't seem likely flashing again will help. | 20:45 |
| Venemo | SpeedEvil, what's the problem? | 20:46 |
| javispedro | seems that only divan and yours can't login | 20:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Venemo: I can't create a nokia account, or login to an existing one. | 20:46 |
| Venemo | SpeedEvil, hmm | 20:47 |
| Venemo | SpeedEvil, interestingly, it worked with mine | 20:47 |
| Venemo | the maps app or sth like that asked for it | 20:47 |
| Venemo | and I entered it, and it worked. | 20:47 |
| javispedro | the only time I couldn't login on mine was after the reset I made after aegis self-destruction | 20:47 |
| javispedro | I spent an entire week not being able to login, trying every day | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | You can actually use the maps app - it has a bug. | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | start it, it pops up the 'open an account' dialog, then tap lots of times on the map app. | 20:48 |
| javispedro | the last day I spent like three hours stracing AccountSetup all while trying to login, found that it made no attempt to communicate at all but rather talk with aegis, | 20:48 |
| SpeedEvil | It eventually opens a search box, then works | 20:48 |
| javispedro | decided to reflash --> the first I did after reflash was to login and it worked | 20:48 |
| *** kkito has joined #harmattan | 20:48 | |
| SpeedEvil | I should probably reflash again. | 20:49 |
| javispedro | so "Temporary problem" my ass | 20:49 |
| SpeedEvil | I cocked up the IP gateway, so it diddn't connect first time. | 20:49 |
| SpeedEvil | Maybe it has to work first time. | 20:49 |
| Venemo | okay | 20:49 |
| javispedro | dunno, or you have to enter the setup from Maps as Venemo did, I do not remember if I did or not | 20:49 |
| Venemo | any idea how I can delete /home/user/.config ? | 20:50 |
| javispedro | rm ? :) | 20:50 |
| SpeedEvil | reflash | 20:50 |
| Venemo | javispedro, root doesn't have permissions for it | 20:50 |
| Venemo | javispedro, and 'su developer' doesn't work | 20:50 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE1X3mvCTCc&feature=feedu | 20:51 |
| SpeedEvil | argh | 20:51 |
| javispedro | Venemo: develsh | 20:51 |
| javispedro | Venemo: or use my trick to kill aegis | 20:51 |
| SpeedEvil | Is there a nice writeup to killing aegis? | 20:51 |
| javispedro | there are two ways now, after boot and during boot =) | 20:52 |
| Venemo | develsh worked! | 20:52 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1066889&postcount=11 | 20:52 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: or on the same thread on the next page for "during boot" | 20:52 |
| * SpeedEvil reflashes. | 20:53 | |
| SpeedEvil | Thanks! | 20:53 |
| * SpeedEvil crosses fingers. | 21:11 | |
| SpeedEvil | Nope. :/ | 21:18 |
| javispedro | :( | 21:18 |
| *** lardman has joined #harmattan | 21:19 | |
| SpeedEvil | Maybe has to go through maps | 21:19 |
| javispedro | but I don't think you are reflashing again to test :) | 21:20 |
| SpeedEvil | reflashing | 21:21 |
| M4rtinK | javispedro: so, it would be nice to have more recent GTK + GI + Clutter :) | 21:21 |
| M4rtinK | I'm currently working on older GTK packages, that use the preinstalled Cairo and Pango libraries and also can't get Gobject-Introspection to build | 21:23 |
| javispedro | M4rtinK: that's a decision to make -- whether to get the latest Hildon/Gtk+ to maximize Maemo compatibility, or get 3.0 | 21:23 |
| M4rtinK | javispedro: are there some mobile-usage improvements in 3.0 ? | 21:25 |
| *** Guest83044 has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| javispedro | many, but whether they are comparable to hildon or not is a good question | 21:25 |
| M4rtinK | hmm | 21:25 |
| M4rtinK | having the possibility to run unmodified/repackaged Maemo packages would be quite cool :) | 21:26 |
| M4rtinK | also the Hildon widgets are not that bad, IMO | 21:26 |
| *** Termana has joined #harmattan | 21:36 | |
| *** Termana is now known as Guest26874 | 21:36 | |
| *** kkito has quit IRC | 21:37 | |
| *** Smtih has quit IRC | 21:44 | |
| SpeedEvil | Did nothing this time but told it to connect to cell-internet, then started maps | 21:48 |
| SpeedEvil | nope | 21:48 |
| *** Venemo_N950 has joined #harmattan | 21:50 | |
| javispedro | never used cell, always wi-fi | 21:50 |
| SpeedEvil | That's what I've done befor | 21:50 |
| SpeedEvil | e | 21:50 |
| javispedro | :( | 21:50 |
| Venemo | great | 21:50 |
| Venemo | IRC client can now save server settings | 21:50 |
| * javispedro thanks god I can probably now avoid aegis selfdestructions | 21:50 | |
| Venemo | and user settings | 21:50 |
| Venemo_N950 | indeed | 21:51 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: Does maps work with aegis off? | 21:51 |
| * Venemo_N950 is happy | 21:51 | |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: it did here | 21:51 |
| javispedro | but the login stuff is probably intact | 21:51 |
| javispedro | my trick disables the validator stuff but the protected storage remains | 21:51 |
| javispedro | not that it is protected any longer, | 21:52 |
| javispedro | but it still "works". | 21:52 |
| * javispedro ponders | 21:52 | |
| *** kkito has joined #harmattan | 21:54 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has quit IRC | 21:56 | |
| *** xarcass has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| *** harbaum has quit IRC | 22:01 | |
| *** kkito has quit IRC | 22:01 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has joined #harmattan | 22:02 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has quit IRC | 22:06 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has joined #harmattan | 22:08 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has joined #harmattan | 22:14 | |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 22:15 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has quit IRC | 22:15 | |
| alterego | How do I add rzr's repository? | 22:22 |
| npm | can someone please develop a game called "angry finns" that launches little meegoids into houses with "pigs" that look like elop or ballmer? :-) | 22:27 |
| alterego | Ah, found it. | 22:27 |
| alterego | Heh | 22:28 |
| *** Arkenoi has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| *** Arkenoi has joined #harmattan | 22:29 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has joined #harmattan | 22:32 | |
| *** Venemo_N950 has quit IRC | 22:37 | |
| *** gri has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
| Venemo | ~seen fiferboy | 22:42 |
| infobot | fiferboy <~fiferboy@Maemo/community/contributor/fiferboy> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 1d 22h 53m 1s ago, saying: 'Venemo: Are you running the stock version on the N950?'. | 22:42 |
| *** lcuk has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| rZr | alterego: http://rzr.online.fr/q/harmattan | 22:46 |
| rZr | i should post an anounce in the forum | 22:46 |
| * rZr is too lazy | 22:46 | |
| alterego | Yeah, found it :) | 22:46 |
| alterego | Unfortunately now I'm getting a weird error. | 22:47 |
| alterego | Actually, I know what this is. | 22:47 |
| alterego | Fixed now. | 22:47 |
| * alterego looks for cool things to install. | 22:47 | |
| rZr | if you have suggestion tell us | 22:48 |
| alterego | screen, obviously :) | 22:48 |
| rZr | tmux ! | 22:48 |
| alterego | Hrm, screen doesn't install or work :/ | 22:48 |
| alterego | Well, it installs, but "Errors were encountered while processing" .. | 22:49 |
| alterego | Hrm, okay, can run this stuff under user. | 22:49 |
| alterego | I get the same screen error as I get on maemo5, never bothered to fix it: "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. | 22:50 |
| rZr | i use tmux | 22:51 |
| kimju | alterego, setgid tty? | 22:52 |
| kimju | or what ever is nowadays needed to access ptmx and devpts. | 22:52 |
| Venemo | alterego, ping | 22:54 |
| Venemo | alterego, I need the resident QML guru :P | 22:54 |
| alterego | Wassup? | 22:55 |
| Venemo | alterego, if I have a listmodel of some kind and change a property (one which has NOTIFY) in it, will the QML frontend also receive the change notification? | 22:55 |
| alterego | Yes, NOTIFY is used for that purpose. | 22:56 |
| alterego | It should work transparently with model data (I believe), and you can also do things like "onPropertyChanged: { /* ... */ }" | 22:57 |
| Venemo | mhm | 22:57 |
| Venemo | weird | 22:57 |
| Venemo | because I never ever wrote any code to support this in my listmodel... | 22:57 |
| tomma | rZr, https://gitorious.org/cuteexplorer for filemanager =) | 22:58 |
| rZr | is it yours ? | 23:00 |
| *** lcuk has joined #harmattan | 23:00 | |
| *** lcuk has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
| *** lcuk has joined #harmattan | 23:00 | |
| tomma | yes | 23:02 |
| rZr | cool | 23:03 |
| rZr | let's try to built it | 23:03 |
| tomma | oh wait forgot to commit harmattan define | 23:04 |
| tomma | there | 23:04 |
| tomma | i hope next toolchain version contains qt with it... | 23:05 |
| rZr | i havent tested but it looks more advanced than minifile | 23:06 |
| rZr | have you tried to contact that author ? | 23:06 |
| *** wicket64 has joined #harmattan | 23:07 | |
| Venemo | alterego, nope, it does not work that way. | 23:07 |
| tomma | havent heard of it | 23:08 |
| alterego | Venemo: your model needs to send the signal | 23:08 |
| Venemo | alterego, it does. | 23:08 |
| alterego | rows changed or something, it's a standard model thing | 23:08 |
| Venemo | alterego, hmm. | 23:08 |
| tomma | oh and cuteexplorer depends on qmlplugin which should be in project too | 23:08 |
| rZr | tomma: you should contact him | 23:08 |
| Venemo | alterego, could you tell me which signal I need? | 23:08 |
| alterego | Should be "dataChanged" | 23:11 |
| Venemo | meh | 23:12 |
| Venemo | and how the heck should it know which data is changed? | 23:12 |
| alterego | It's your data :P | 23:12 |
| Venemo | I was hoping there would be an automagical way for this | 23:12 |
| Venemo | well... my generalized class seems to be too generalized for this. | 23:12 |
| Venemo | basically I need to connect to each notify signal of each item and emit this dataChanged() signal when I need it. | 23:13 |
| Venemo | this whole listmodel thing is very fucked up. | 23:13 |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 23:14 | |
| Venemo | I have to choose between not even having access to stuff in the model (QAbstractListModel) or not getting notified when a new item is added (QList<QObject*>) | 23:14 |
| w00t_ | dataChanged is not used for inserting/removing rows | 23:15 |
| Venemo | yep | 23:15 |
| w00t_ | oh, I misinterpret | 23:15 |
| Venemo | but I need dataChanged when a property of one of the items changes. | 23:15 |
| *** Stskeeps has joined #harmattan | 23:15 | |
| w00t_ | if your model is handing out QObject* to your delegate, i'd imagine onPropertyChanged would work.. | 23:15 |
| w00t_ | but I haven't actually tried that | 23:15 |
| alterego | Venemo: make a general "dataChanged" signal in your items, then every time you add a new item, get your model to connect the signal from the item, to the dataChanged signal of the model. | 23:16 |
| Venemo | w00t_, hmmm... maybe the problem is that it does not hand out the QObject* directly! | 23:16 |
| Venemo | alterego, it's not that simple | 23:16 |
| Venemo | alterego, because I need a ModelIndex for the dataChanged too. | 23:16 |
| Venemo | more correctly, I need two ModelIndexes. | 23:16 |
| Venemo | w00t_, in fact, I made a hack that lets it hand out the QObject* | 23:17 |
| Venemo | w00t_, but maybe the ultimate solution would be to give out the QObject* itself as a "role"? dunno. | 23:17 |
| w00t_ | boxing the pointer inside QVariant (as you need to do for ::data) will make it hard to access from QML, at least, as I recall | 23:18 |
| w00t_ | it may work if you explicitly cast it to QObject before putting it into the QVariant | 23:18 |
| w00t_ | I don't remember the catch | 23:18 |
| Venemo | the thing is, it's all fucked up. | 23:18 |
| Venemo | I'll just do yet another hack. | 23:19 |
| w00t_ | btw, i spoke to steve in person about this in berlin | 23:21 |
| w00t_ | he said that apparently, there are some qml people working on making things easier, i didn't really get much details off him | 23:21 |
| Venemo | hehe | 23:21 |
| w00t_ | so it may be a case of 'watch this space' or ask and find out about what is going on' | 23:21 |
| *** antman8969 has joined #harmattan | 23:22 | |
| Venemo | well, the RIGHT thing to do would be to have a QList<> subclass that sends a signal when its items change | 23:22 |
| lcuk | evening w00t_ Venemo \o | 23:22 |
| Venemo | and then I could add pointers to QObject subclasses to that list, and it could give me the instance in QML | 23:22 |
| Venemo | hey lcuk :) | 23:22 |
| *** antman8969 has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** djszapi has joined #harmattan | 23:25 | |
| rZr | tomma: does it depends on libhildonmime-dev ? | 23:25 |
| *** antman8969 has joined #harmattan | 23:27 | |
| rZr | tomma: ping if can try to undepend on that one ; I cant built it | 23:35 |
| djszapi | hi rZr | 23:35 |
| rZr | hi | 23:36 |
| tomma | aa sorry dont build master branch =) | 23:38 |
| tomma | 1.2-qml branch | 23:39 |
| tomma | master contains old fremantle version | 23:39 |
| tomma | and packaging stuff is in qtc_packaking/debian_harmattan | 23:40 |
| Venemo | does Harmattans still use XB-Maemo-Icon-26 ? | 23:44 |
| antman8969 | yep | 23:45 |
| Venemo | and it still works with 'base64 xy.png' ? | 23:46 |
| Venemo | and does XB-Maemo-Display-Name still work? | 23:48 |
| antman8969 | yep venemo, to both | 23:52 |
| Venemo | antman8969, thx | 23:52 |
| antman8969 | I use uuencode, but probably doesn't matter. Point it, it's the same as fremantle | 23:53 |
| *** CaCO3 has quit IRC | 23:54 | |
| Venemo | ok, thanks :) | 23:56 |
| rZr | ok | 23:58 |
| rZr | i'll try later | 23:58 |
| Jaffa | antman8969: Same as Fremantle, but 64x64 not 48x48 | 23:58 |
| Jaffa | Diablo: 26x26, Fremantle: 48x48, Harmattan: 64x64 | 23:58 |
| antman8969 | right | 23:58 |
| antman8969 | are we sure that's true? I've been using 64x64 and the icons are still pixelated in the app manager screen. Might it be 80x80? | 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
