| pancake | can somebody give me some help on the hardware of the n950? | 00:00 |
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| djszapi | what help ? | 00:00 |
| pancake | i have inserted a microsim adapter without the microsim | 00:01 |
| SpeedEvil | Unlikely to work. | 00:01 |
| pancake | and it got locked inside because of the hole | 00:01 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 00:01 |
| SpeedEvil | oops | 00:01 |
| pancake | i used some lockpicking tools to pull down the pins | 00:01 |
| pancake | and extract it | 00:01 |
| pancake | but looks like there's a pin which has been displaced a bit | 00:02 |
| pancake | and it scratches the sims and meego doesnt identifies any sim | 00:02 |
| pancake | :/ | 00:02 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 00:02 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't think there is a 950 manual | 00:02 |
| SpeedEvil | There is a n9 manual. | 00:02 |
| SpeedEvil | how to take it apart. | 00:03 |
| pancake | i've been looking for disassembling pics and checking the n900 pin design .. which afaik its similar | 00:03 |
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| pancake | those pins should be like the ones in the e62 | 00:04 |
| pancake | this way it would broke :( | 00:04 |
| djszapi | 8~ | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd guess you are in trouble anyway, as bending the pin in shape again is pretty hard to merely impossible from outside | 00:05 |
| pancake | disassembly pics show that its hard to access it | 00:06 |
| pancake | it's closed by the upper side | 00:06 |
| * mgedmin is trying to make fbreader take over the volume keys: http://pastie.org/2286492 | 00:07 | |
| DocScrutinizer | actually under the battery is best it gets | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can not disassemble the holder | 00:08 |
| pancake | yep.. thats what i see :/ | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least the six pins are conveniently placed in center of a hole each | 00:09 |
| pancake | http://twitpic.com/5xbu0q | 00:09 |
| pancake | can somebody take a pic like this, so i can compare | 00:09 |
| pancake | that's what happens: http://twitpic.com/5xbu14 <- see the scratch | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | close inspection makes me think you got a fair chance to adjust the outer 3 springs/pins thru the insertion slot | 00:10 |
| SpeedEvil | Focussed image would be good | 00:11 |
| mgedmin | hm, libresourceqt appears to be built on top of dbus... do I have to do anything to make fbreader dbus-aware, I wonder? | 00:11 |
| pancake | it's hard to take a good picture of it.. i should take the Canon.. | 00:11 |
| SpeedEvil | Do you have n900? | 00:12 |
| SpeedEvil | fcam has a nice focus slider | 00:12 |
| SpeedEvil | Makes closeups a doddle | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | pancake: disassemble the device by removing the 4 TX4 screws ans then opening the back cover, as explained in http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#Hardware_related_bits | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | remove battery | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | watch SIM holder as accessable as it gets | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | you won't need any photo to compare, it's obvious if a pin is correct or not | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | for the lockpick tols: you probably would've been beter off just inserting a stiff thin plastic on the "upper" (screen) side of SIM | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | oh, btw thank for confirming the warning in quickstart guide, about "never use micro-SIM adapetrs or micro sim in a sim-cutout frame" | 00:18 |
| pancake | oh :/ didnt read warning :/ | 00:19 |
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| pancake | i took some pics | 00:21 |
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| mgedmin | /usr/lib/zlibrary/ui/zlui-qt4.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK7QObject10metaObjectEv, bummer | 00:23 |
| pancake | DocScrutinizer: http://lolcathost.org/b/IMG_2199.JPG | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | pancake: useless, please see my last 3..4 posts here | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | 6 actually | 00:25 |
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| pancake | i dont have such screwdriver right now | 00:28 |
| mgedmin | d'oh, misspelled libresourceqt1 in pkg-config invocation, so it didn't even link with QtGui | 00:28 |
| mgedmin | stupid makefile ignores pkg-config warnings | 00:28 |
| pancake | so i should try another day | 00:28 |
| pancake | :( | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | pancake: yes, as you should care to use proper tools at least | 00:29 |
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| pancake | is there any picture of the n950 without the battery? | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | pancake: http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.public/joerg900.10176 | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | exclusively for you ;-D | 00:31 |
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| pancake | :D | 00:31 |
| pancake | so.. it's like __/_/__| | 00:32 |
| pancake | :O | 00:32 |
| pancake | i thought it was like the n900 __/__\__ | 00:32 |
| pancake | it hurts :( | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's dead, Jim | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | you take the screen, and I take the battery | 00:34 |
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| mgedmin | IT WORKS! | 00:34 |
| mgedmin | crap, it works too well | 00:34 |
| mgedmin | fbreader takes over the volume keys and doesn't relinquish control when it goes into background | 00:35 |
| rm_work | lol | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | haha | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 00:35 |
| mgedmin | sooo... how do I catch application went to background/foreground events? | 00:36 |
| pancake | well, it works fine with wifi.. but its a sad to see such design flaw :( | 00:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | is-active and is-visible, sth like that | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | DESIGN FLAW?? | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | *cough* | 00:37 |
| pancake | i recognize its my fault | 00:38 |
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| pancake | but i wouldnt imagine such thing to happen on a pull-mode sim reader | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | That looks regrettably soldered. | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless you use the type with a hinge and "door", you'll always run into the problem of springs locking on trenchs/holes in the object you insert | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | on all slide-type sim holders | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: indeed, nasty | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | no field-servicable part actually | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | definitely needs reflow | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | looks like at least | 00:42 |
| SpeedEvil | To do it right. | 00:42 |
| SpeedEvil | You could do it wrong. | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | I doubt | 00:43 |
| SpeedEvil | In maners that might result in it needing to be dissasembled to swap SIM | 00:43 |
| pancake | http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/1/0/1/e62web7.jpg <- see how e62 pins are? | 00:43 |
| SpeedEvil | Cut off the top of the SIM holder - at least much of it | 00:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pancake: I'm not really interested, I've actually seen a book full of sim holders over in taipei - literally | 00:44 |
| pancake | i would try without cutting anything | 00:44 |
| SpeedEvil | If you can't manipulate the pins through the holes | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | the you're screwed | 00:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you mentioned scars in SIM plastic - that makes me think one of the springs is alteady broken or *absolutely* wound up | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, disassemble, scrutinize the 6 larger round holes. the 6 pins have to sit exactly in the center of the hole one each | 00:47 |
| mgedmin | QML docs mentioned the 'active' property (thanks, DocScrutinizer), but I need to access it from a QWidget... | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I'd probably go the macho's way and check the QML sourcecode ;-P | 00:49 |
| mgedmin | there's a QWidget::isActiveWindow property... | 00:49 |
| mgedmin | but I need to track changes, and polling is not acceptable | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | in the end it's all X11 | 00:49 |
| GAN900 | Is there a real source for the "N9 wont be sold in NA" rumor? | 00:51 |
| GAN900 | Or is that still originating from the webstore availability confusion? | 00:51 |
| tomma | mgedmin, there are so many events in QWidget http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qwidget.html#changeEvent | 00:51 |
| tomma | not sure what you should catch but i would check some of those | 00:52 |
| mgedmin | thanks! | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: guess! | 00:52 |
| * mgedmin is a total qt noob, often doesn't even know what keywords to google | 00:52 | |
| GAN900 | Right then. | 00:52 |
| mgedmin | ActivationChange looks right | 00:52 |
| pancake | i have to close now | 00:53 |
| pancake | thanks for the help | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: we wouldn't build a device with pentaband 3G just to not sell it to the only 3rd world country that doesn't get their 3G bands mess sorted ;-D | 00:53 |
| djszapi | Could someone show me the link of the wikipage where various c-obs repositories are collected for picking up packages ? | 00:54 |
| mgedmin | or perhaps ApplicationActivate/ApplicationDeactivate | 00:54 |
| mgedmin | and a code example is here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/62629/how-do-i-detect-application-level-focus-in-in-qt-4-4-1/358253#358253 | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | GAN900: to be very clear on that: If it wasn't for USA, I think N9 never would have been pentaband. It's not needed elsewhere in the world afaik | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | incl GSM it's actually novaband | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | or whatever 9band is on greek/latin/whatever | 00:58 |
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| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, Canada, South America. | 00:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mexicon | 00:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | er, *Mexico | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | (ok, TS bands are same frequency, thanks to USA who started that nonsense) | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | ehh, I love it when my touchpad interferes my typing | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | (ok, some of the GSM and UMTS bands are same frequency, thanks to USA who started that nonsense) | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | so I thinks it's like 6 actual bands, 3 of them dual-use | 01:02 |
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| mgedmin | oh lovely, I don't have a reference to the QApplication | 01:03 |
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| mgedmin | but I can use QApplication::instance() | 01:04 |
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| * mgedmin learns to use scp + dpkg -i and avoid the repository hassle for test packages | 01:08 | |
| mgedmin | IT WORKS! | 01:09 |
| mgedmin | so fbreader blahblah-mg8 handles volume keys correctly (for values of "correctly" meaning "page scrolling") | 01:10 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 01:10 |
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| mgedmin | this qt thing ain't so hard after all | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands if you're interested | 01:11 |
| mgedmin | especially with helpful people on irc pointing you to useful doc stuff | 01:11 |
| mgedmin | next big step will be to try and QMLize it | 01:11 |
| mgedmin | but it won't be today | 01:11 |
| mgedmin | crap, default key bindings for volume+/- do not work | 01:13 |
| mgedmin | qt keycodes are not x11 keysyms but something else | 01:19 |
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| mgedmin | fixed | 01:23 |
| mgedmin | mg9 is the definite fbreader version | 01:23 |
| mgedmin | (for now) | 01:23 |
| mgedmin | off to sleep, bye all | 01:24 |
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| twoboxen | So I have about 8 of my apps/games built using QtSDK… can someone help me with the absolute minimal requirements to build a deb package? | 01:25 |
| twoboxen | Preferably WITHOUT qt creator… i'd like to know the filesystem requirements and term commands to achieve this | 01:25 |
| twoboxen | Right now I want to test, but it looks like aegis won't let us run generic binaries? That sucks | 01:26 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hrm, can't open books from the library with your build, mgedmin. | 01:34 |
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| * vandenoever decides warptree qml demo on n950 is cool enough for now | 01:36 | |
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| tomma | twoboxen, qmake, make, make install (with right INSTALL_ROOT) and dpkg-buildpackage | 01:49 |
| tomma | with debian packaging folder and in scratchbox with harmattan target | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | all hail for *l10n-engineering-english | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | congrats nokia for binning tanna-fi-foo-bar | 01:51 |
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| Scifig | Trying to create a daemon for harmattan, what is the equivalent of "start on started hildon-desktop" ? | 02:06 |
| SpeedEvil | Oooh - another idea. Clip on binoculars in some secure manner - elastic band? | 02:08 |
| SpeedEvil | Tap 'go'. App says 'point at moon' | 02:09 |
| SpeedEvil | (or some visible celestial object. | 02:09 |
| SpeedEvil | And it then speaks whatever objects in the sky it's pointed at | 02:09 |
| SpeedEvil | the binocs | 02:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you know RMS fscked you, when man foo gives you >GNU foo is fully documented in the texinfo documentation. To access the help from your command line, type info foo | 03:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | thanks Mr Stallman, for wasting my time | 03:17 |
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| Termana | morning | 04:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~quote NOK | 05:40 |
| infobot | NOK: 5.71 (5.81/5.68), 7/28/2011 4:02pm, Opened 5.71, Volume 44,253,816, Change -0.02 | 05:40 |
| SpeedEvil | ~quote APPL | 05:44 |
| infobot | APPL: 0.00 (N/A/N/A), N/A 3:31pm, Opened N/A, Volume 0, Change N/A | 05:44 |
| Scifig | ~quote AAPL | 05:44 |
| infobot | AAPL: 391.82 (396.99/388.13), 7/28/2011 4:00pm, Opened 391.63, Volume 21,215,156, Change -0.77 | 05:44 |
| Scifig | What is the harmattan equivalent of "start on started hildon-desktop" ? | 05:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | initctl list | 05:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | xsession/ui-startup/start-desktop sounds good | 05:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | but NFC honestly | 05:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | isn't there any upstart-draw-dependencies-graph ? | 05:57 |
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| Scifig | DocScrutinizer - Thanks. Will try ui-startup | 06:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | scanning through all the events.d/* should give some idea | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | just that I seem to miss events.d/ | 06:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | soooo... | 06:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | stop aegis :-P | 06:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# stop aegis | 06:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | aegis stop/waiting | 06:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 06:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | gnite | 06:25 |
| Scifig | good night | 06:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | grep -r "on started" /etc | 06:27 |
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| Scifig | I'll go with "xsession/ui-startup/start-desktop". Although there are no files in /etc/event.d yet. I'll deploy my script there and hope aegis won't hate it. | 06:41 |
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| spenap | The build status for my package in its overview page appears as «building», but when I click on that, in the build log it appears as «Updating...». I left it overnight, and it ended up timing out, and even if I triggered the rebuilt this morning, it seems it's going in the same direction | 10:21 |
| spenap | what can I check to make sure I'm doing it right? | 10:21 |
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| Arkenoi | are there harmattan repos worth adding to sources lists right now? | 12:09 |
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| djszapi | Arkenoi: plenty. | 12:20 |
| Arkenoi | djszapi: is there a recommended list? | 12:20 |
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| djszapi | y | 12:21 |
| Arkenoi | ..and where can i get it? :-) | 12:22 |
| djszapi | I was looking for that yesterday, but I did not find. | 12:24 |
| djszapi | deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ free non-free -> for instance this one | 12:24 |
| djszapi | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/djszapi/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan/ -> This one too, but I am trying to find the page for you.. | 12:25 |
| Arkenoi | btw there was fbreader somewhere iirc, but i cannot find it right now :-( | 12:27 |
| djszapi | http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia/Development_repos | 12:27 |
| djszapi | there you go | 12:27 |
| djszapi | maybe someone would like to add it to the title ? | 12:28 |
| djszapi | * topic | 12:28 |
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| djszapi | I am also fine if this devrepo link is added to some main and fundamental harmattan page. | 12:44 |
| djszapi | I could not easily find it, just from IRC log. | 12:44 |
| dm8tbr | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page? | 12:46 |
| dm8tbr | in the topic | 12:46 |
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| djszapi | dm8tbr perfect :) | 12:46 |
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| MohammadAG | Order shipped \o/ | 12:59 |
| djszapi | well done :) | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 13:00 |
| leinir | sweeet :) MohammadAG Now you gotta start planning out what to do with it when it arrives! Fire up that Qt Creator and start building some magic ;) | 13:08 |
| djszapi | dm8tbr: ok, you can revert the topic, I have just extended the N950_landing_page with that bit. | 13:10 |
| dm8tbr | ok | 13:11 |
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| *** dm8tbr changes topic to "A cozy little place for pure harmattan device and development discussions | Developers check this: http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | MeeGo N9(|50) CE on its way, MOSLO still missing, discuss in #meego-arm please | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/" | 13:11 | |
| * Khertan would like to make automated ssh tunnel connection | 13:25 | |
| Khertan | is there a way to create a tunnel on demand only | 13:25 |
| alterego | On demand by what? | 13:28 |
| alterego | I have one that gets created on if-up | 13:28 |
| Khertan | alterego, email client try to connect | 13:29 |
| Khertan | open an ssh tunnel | 13:30 |
| Khertan | then connection works | 13:30 |
| Khertan | :) | 13:30 |
| alterego | Well, you could edit the .desktop file to start the ssh tunnel, _then_ start the email client ;) | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | morn alterego, feeling better today? | 13:31 |
| Khertan | hum... i like the planning feature of the email client | 13:31 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: marginally, I've not been sick yet ;) | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:32 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: I just have to do some work though, so I'm trying to be active ;) | 13:32 |
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| Khertan | what i need is autossh | 13:36 |
| Khertan | :) | 13:36 |
| alterego | autossh is good. | 13:37 |
| Khertan | just hope it ll not drain battery too much | 13:37 |
| alterego | Neah, | 13:37 |
| alterego | Only when it's working. | 13:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | wtf autossh? | 13:38 |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer: it wraps ssh and auto connects if the connection is dropped. | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | oh, I do this manually | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | while ssh foo@bar; do sleep 5; done | 13:39 |
| alterego | Heh | 13:39 |
| alterego | This is a bit more complex than that, | 13:39 |
| Khertan | lol | 13:39 |
| Khertan | of course DocScrutinizer | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | alterego: what for? | 13:40 |
| * Khertan hate meego wiki found something on it is like playing Sector Z to level Z-100 on nes in less than 1 hours ! | 13:40 | |
| alterego | DocScrutinizer: because your method will block even though the connection may be dropped. | 13:41 |
| Khertan | where is the search engine (pakrat) to look which package is available in some home project for harmattan of some guys ? | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | :shrug: it works fine for javing an always ready shell open to my internet located box here, since months | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | you may want to mess with keep-alive and timeout, sure | 13:43 |
| Khertan | yep but it s a box | 13:43 |
| Khertan | not a mobile phone | 13:43 |
| Khertan | you use in the metro | 13:43 |
| Khertan | with many connection drop | 13:43 |
| Khertan | many change of networks | 13:43 |
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| Khertan | devel on it and restart every 30min | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd be interested in a resume option for ssh | 13:44 |
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| Khertan | the main purpose of autossh is for making tunnel | 13:45 |
| Khertan | going eat something | 13:45 |
| Khertan | bbl | 13:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | I admit it sounds usefull | 13:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | just never head of it | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | dm8tbr: op? | 13:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GRRRR [2011-07-29 12:51:31] [Notice] -ChanServ- povbot is not registered. | 13:51 |
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| djszapi | lbt: it writes "failed". However if you open the build log, it went completely fine: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=ilmbase&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 14:12 |
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| djszapi | lbt: Also, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=cracklib2&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> What is this stuff about ? | 14:22 |
| Khertan | hop hop autossh package in obs repository | 14:37 |
| Khertan | :) | 14:37 |
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| divan_work | have anyone tried https://gitorious.org/libharmattaneventview/libharmattaneventview library? | 15:06 |
| divan_work | Or this one - http://thp.io/2011/eventfeed/ for python? | 15:06 |
| divan_work | I'm trying to add feed item from commandline, but get "Service Unknown" error. | 15:07 |
| divan_work | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.home.EventFeed /com/nokia/home/eventfeed com.nokia.home.EventFeed.addItem string:"title" string:"Test" | 15:07 |
| divan_work | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.home.EventFeed was not provided by any .service files | 15:07 |
| Khertan | hum aegis ? | 15:10 |
| divan_work | ah, no.. I should use --session bus, not system | 15:11 |
| divan_work | but need to figure out proper syntax for call | 15:11 |
| Khertan | hihi | 15:11 |
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| Khertan | divan, https://gitorious.org/libharmattaneventview/libharmattaneventview/blobs/master/libharmattaneventfeed/harmattaneventfeed.cpp & https://gitorious.org/libharmattaneventview/libharmattaneventview/blobs/master/libharmattaneventfeed/harmattaneventfeeditem.cpp | 15:14 |
| Khertan | will probably help :) | 15:14 |
| thp | divan_work: simply use the python library :p | 15:15 |
| thp | divan_work: you can easily create a small wrapper script | 15:15 |
| thp | divan_work: also, it doesn't need any aegis permissions | 15:15 |
| thp | (the event feed in general, not specific to the python library) | 15:15 |
| divan_work | thp, yep, I know, but I would prefer to have also the pure sh solution :) | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | I dared to try "stop aegis" - can't see any difference ;-P | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | any comments? | 15:16 |
| divan_work | DocScrutinizer, I expected device to start shining and talking with nice female voice after stopping aegis :) | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 15:17 |
| RST38h | fsck fsck fsck | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's just funny there seems to be zero effect - so I'm asking if it's supposed to have *any* and I just missed it | 15:18 |
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| divan_work | thp, from command line I get "no such method addItem" :( | 15:19 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted. If you continue you ***WILL*** cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage. | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | tbh I expected http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Aegis-kills-device.jpg | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: moo and congrats for baby step ahead | 15:20 |
| * RST38h cackles, continues | 15:20 | |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, moo and thanks :) | 15:21 |
| * MohammadAG hopes it arrives before 3/8 | 15:21 | |
| DocScrutinizer | yay | 15:21 |
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| MohammadAG | you got the DHL notification 4 hours later right? | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | yoh | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | others seems to have to wait for days | 15:26 |
| thp | divan_work: did you try the python lib? | 15:27 |
| divan_work | thp, yep, it works and now I'm sniffing with dbus-monitor :) | 15:28 |
| divan_work | thp, thanks btw, nice work | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway I'd pester ddp@nokia if you got no mail until 5h later. Odds are the mail got lost and you can not track the device. This is a nogo | 15:28 |
| thp | divan_work: :) it would be cool if you could document your sh-only solution somewhere on the meego wiki then :) | 15:28 |
| divan_work | thp, sure | 15:28 |
| MohammadAG | <DocScrutinizer> anyway I'd pester ddp@nokia if you got no mail until 5h later. Odds are the mail got lost and you can not track the device. This is a nogo | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: quim kicked the right corner to make the whole gear unblock and spin again, uh? :-) | 15:29 |
| MohammadAG | that's something I don't want | 15:30 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, yeah :) | 15:30 |
| MohammadAG | Quim got me an N900 in less than a week, 3 days shipping too | 15:30 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder if DHL work on Sat/Sun | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: doesn't matter if you "want"- the moment the device moves thru DHL, it's *your* responsibility to track it, and you should do that carefully and closely | 15:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | so if "no mail with DHL tracking" in 5h from status "shipped" == first indication sth goes wrong | 15:32 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, they almost lost my first N900, don't worry, I'm good at that :P | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's your responsibility to pester Nokia to send the DHL tracking info to you | 15:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | Nokia can't know when the mail got lost | 15:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: btw what's happening 08-03 ? | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | back to your residential school in Suisse? | 15:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | or are you moving to MIT? | 15:39 |
| w00t | I took a fair while to get my tracking mail | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | (DHL Sat/Sun) internally yes, afaik. Means it can move from Leipzig to TelAviv or sth. But no delivery I guess | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | w00t: fair while is? | 15:41 |
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| w00t | I don't remember now | 15:42 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, life getting in my way :P | 15:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah | 15:43 |
| MohammadAG | w00t, less than a day? | 15:43 |
| djszapi | mmh, packrat is buggy | 15:43 |
| MohammadAG | no worries, all delays will be at Lod | 15:43 |
| MohammadAG | <3 customs | 15:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | Lod? | 15:44 |
| djszapi | it does not actually look for packages here: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta Who is the packrat maintainer ? | 15:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | rm_you ? | 15:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-07-27.log.html#t2011-07-27T18:42:31 | 15:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-07-26.log.html#t2011-07-26T05:19:50 | 15:47 |
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| mtd | anyone have boost packaged for harmattan (armel)? | 15:52 |
| djszapi | not that I see. | 15:53 |
| mtd | djszapi: thanks | 15:55 |
| Mek | nokia has... | 15:55 |
| * mtd guesses my scratchbox aptsetup is broken, since I can't install subversion (no installation candidate). | 15:55 | |
| Mek | but maybe not in the sdk... | 15:56 |
| mtd | Mek: oh?! Great... | 15:56 |
| mtd | Mek: where can I find it? | 15:56 |
| djszapi | mtd: I wanted to have it sometimes ago because of some polkit-qwt thing | 15:56 |
| Mek | well, apparently it's only in the internal repository, if you can't find it... | 15:56 |
| djszapi | mtd: there is no public. | 15:56 |
| mtd | djszapi: ah | 15:56 |
| mtd | Mek: no, I have no access to it :( | 15:57 |
| MohammadAG | and there's my tracking number | 16:01 |
| Khertan | hum : rzr git-core package is buggy | 16:03 |
| Khertan | and packaging git require subversion :( | 16:03 |
| Khertan | strange | 16:04 |
| Khertan | dependancy | 16:04 |
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| djszapi | Khertan: no, it is not strange: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/git/git_1.7.5.4-1.dsc | 16:05 |
| djszapi | it even requires cvs :D | 16:05 |
| Khertan | excuse me but i found a bit strange that git require cvs and subversion... this depends come from migration tools | 16:06 |
| Khertan | and should be packaged in the side | 16:06 |
| Khertan | not with the core tools | 16:06 |
| Khertan | when you use git you didn't have to use subversion or cvs :) | 16:06 |
| djszapi | well, I guess he just rebuilt it without fine-tuning yet | 16:06 |
| Khertan | djszapi, ah yes i didn't blame rzr for that | 16:07 |
| djszapi | no idea how he rebuilt it since I do not find cvs anywhere. | 16:07 |
| Khertan | i blame myself to found a way to package it | 16:07 |
| Khertan | djszapi, he rebuild an old version of git-core i ve pushed in maemo repository | 16:07 |
| Khertan | which at this time didn't have depends on cvs and subversions | 16:08 |
| Khertan | as the migration tool was given separatly | 16:08 |
| djszapi | seriously, someone, please fix packrat.... I need to look for packages at two places :( | 16:08 |
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| rlinfati | $ strings /usr/sbin/validator-init | grep -i microsoft | wc -l -> 10 !! | 16:10 |
| rlinfati | $ strings /usr/sbin/validator-init | grep -i win32 | wc -l -> 9 | 16:10 |
| rlinfati | harmattan is the evil !! :) | 16:10 |
| mtd | ooh, rzr started to package boost, maybe: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=boost1.42&project=home%3Arzr%3Adebian | 16:10 |
| djszapi | mtd: well, the dependencies are missing at least to a nice package. | 16:11 |
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| Khertan | rlinfati, didn't have same result | 16:13 |
| Khertan | 0-0 | 16:13 |
| Khertan | which fw did you use ? | 16:13 |
| mtd | djszapi: in obs or somewhere else (sorry for the naive question)? | 16:13 |
| djszapi | mtd: ohh, rzr packages quite a few dependencies, nice :) | 16:14 |
| djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=boost1.42&project=home%3Arzr -> boost did not build yet properly. | 16:16 |
| djszapi | and that is a bit old version :p | 16:16 |
| gri | Anyone has an idea why my ListViews placed on a com.nokia.meego.Page always are scrolled to the center by default? I would like to have them starting at the top | 16:17 |
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| rlinfati | Khertan, 22-6, the public | 16:19 |
| macmaN | GIVEEZ ME MOAR N)%0 FIRMWAREZ KTHXBAI | 16:20 |
| Khertan | :) | 16:20 |
| Khertan | rlinfati, fud | 16:20 |
| Khertan | :) | 16:20 |
| macmaN | pretty soon i cant take it anymore | 16:20 |
| macmaN | im gonna gorilla that glass up myself | 16:20 |
| macmaN | with some engraved new version number | 16:21 |
| rlinfati | where are the backup stored ? | 16:21 |
| rlinfati | i wanna bakup the backup :=) | 16:21 |
| Khertan | /home/user/MyDocs/.backups/ | 16:21 |
| Khertan | be carrefull backup didn't save everythings | 16:21 |
| Khertan | pictures on contact aren't saved, no photo, music, videos, .ssh | 16:22 |
| Khertan | and many things :) | 16:22 |
| rlinfati | i only wanna save the the registration of the ovi account | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | rm_you: packrat fix request by djszapi! | 16:22 |
| Khertan | also restoring a backup with ovi account doesn't seems to works :) | 16:23 |
| Khertan | i backuped my contact | 16:23 |
| Khertan | reflash | 16:23 |
| Khertan | test ovi account working | 16:23 |
| Khertan | backup again | 16:23 |
| Khertan | compare backup | 16:23 |
| Khertan | restore first backup | 16:23 |
| Khertan | restore avi account (signon.db) | 16:23 |
| Khertan | but didn't works :) | 16:23 |
| Khertan | reflash | 16:24 |
| Khertan | restoring backup with working ovi account make ovi account not working | 16:24 |
| Khertan | :) | 16:24 |
| Khertan | good luck in investigations :) | 16:24 |
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| rlinfati | how i can check if the kernel running is from flasher (-k ... -l -b) or from nand ? | 16:40 |
| divan_work | so does the ovi login bug somehow related to contacts? reflashing didn't help for me, and I synchronized all my contacts from N900.. | 16:40 |
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| thp | rlinfati: maybe /proc/cmdline has something for you | 16:55 |
| thp | rlinfati: bootreason or bootmode maybe. for normal boot it's bootreason=pwr_key and bootmode=normal for me | 16:56 |
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| divan_work | thp, seems that for accessing eventfeed from cmdline we need to patch qdbus first, adding support for QVariantMap parameters | 16:59 |
| divan_work | it would be better to write wrapper for C++ or your's library instead | 16:59 |
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| thp | divan_work: someone has already written a event feed library in c++ | 17:03 |
| divan_work | thp, yep, I saw it | 17:03 |
| thp | http://www.d-pointer.com/2011/07/08/libharmattaneventview-is-now-available/ | 17:04 |
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| Khertan | divan, reflashing help me ... i didn't think it s related to n900 sync as i do a sync after and works | 17:06 |
| Khertan | i thinks it s related to backuptool | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | rlinfati: hardly at all | 17:08 |
| Khertan | and a sqlite3db in /home/user/.signon | 17:08 |
| divan_work | Khertan, any hints on how to make it working? | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless cmdline is different, there shouldn't be any difference in the kernel itself, no matter where from it loaded | 17:08 |
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| * DocScrutinizer wonders idly how the hash/signature handling is defined to work for kernels loaded via flasher | 17:10 | |
| DocScrutinizer | and, even more relevant, for the bootloader if it got loaded from USB by romboot | 17:11 |
| Khertan | divan_work, except reflash and not using backup | 17:11 |
| Khertan | no | 17:11 |
| divan_work | Khertan, what backup tool are we talking about btw? | 17:12 |
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| Khertan | divan, the things in parameters -> sync & backup -> backup | 17:14 |
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| Khertan | (probably not exactly same name i translate it from french to english) | 17:15 |
| Khertan | divan, also before creating a nokia account on device verify that date and time are well setted | 17:15 |
| divan_work | Khertan, I've synchonized contacts from N900's synchronize tool... | 17:15 |
| Khertan | but i ve problem before and now it s works | 17:15 |
| divan_work | yes, I checked it | 17:16 |
| Khertan | divan_work, i ve sync it too but after creating a ovi account | 17:16 |
| rlinfati | grrr damit aegis... i can not even change the cmdline via flasher :( | 17:16 |
| Khertan | and ovi account still works | 17:16 |
| Khertan | :) | 17:16 |
| mgedmin | GeneralAntilles, no clue about your library problem; I don't use fbreader's library myself, just open files with the add book dialog | 17:17 |
| divan_work | Khertan, hmm, that could be the point. I'll check. | 17:17 |
| mgedmin | crevetor's not here, hmm | 17:20 |
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| mgedmin | :) | 17:20 |
| mgedmin | crevetor, just mentioned your name, and you appeared | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | rlinfati: welcome to the aegis foes' club | 17:20 |
| mgedmin | didn't know my own summoning powers | 17:20 |
| mgedmin | crevetor, I noticed the other day that qmlcompass did not initialize orientationAngle on startup | 17:21 |
| mgedmin | so the direction was wrong if you launched it while in landscape mode | 17:21 |
| crevetor | True. | 17:21 |
| crevetor | I'll fix that. | 17:21 |
| mgedmin | (could be that to reproduce this one would have to do the CSS hack to allow the home screen to be landscape) | 17:21 |
| rlinfati | unknown partition table, VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block(179,2) :( that happen when i change the cmdline via flasher.... | 17:25 |
| rlinfati | the emmc is encrypted ? | 17:26 |
| SpeedEvil | rlinfati: no | 17:26 |
| rlinfati | then... why the kernel can not load the partition table of the emmc when i chanche the cmdline via flasher? | 17:27 |
| rlinfati | s/chanche/change | 17:27 |
| SpeedEvil | Unsure | 17:29 |
| SpeedEvil | Perhaps there is an initfs that loads the mmc modules? | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | rlinfati: how did you get kernel messages? | 17:30 |
| rlinfati | /dev/mtd3ro | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | mtdoops? | 17:30 |
| rlinfati | yes | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | ah, clever | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | rlinfati: do you have lock code? | 17:31 |
| rlinfati | nop | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | rlinfati: dunno if that helps: | 17:32 |
| macmaN | ok so i am stracing the hell out of /usr/lib/AccountSetup/bin/oviplugin | 17:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# cat /proc/cmdline | 17:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | init=/sbin/preinit root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootflags=errors=remount-ro rootfstype=ext4 rw mtdoops.mtddev=log mtdoops.record_size=65536 console=tty0 mtdparts=omap2-onenand:1024k(bootloader),2816k@1024k(config),16384k@3840k(kernel),2048k@20224k(log),469248k@22272k(swap),32768k@491520k(moslo) bootreason=pwr_key bootmode=normal nolo=2.0.37 product_name=RM-680 imei=357881040017222 g_nokia.iSerialNumber=357881040017222 | 17:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | serialnumber=ZUA030564 omap_sec.kci=916 battery-type=BL-4D gpio=cmt_apeslpx:93:sysfs:output,cmt_en:23:sysfs:init_active:output,cmt_rst_rq:88:sysfs:init_active:output,keypad_slide:109:key:inverted,sleep_ind:92:sysfs:output omapdss.def_disp_enabled=1 vhash=cf998375ea9aee53fae74b6dc405f53481e20aa4 product_model=N950 hwid=1124 | 17:32 |
| macmaN | it never gets to connecting to a server before spitting service currently unavailable | 17:32 |
| macmaN | as opposed to "create new account" which clearly strace shows connecting to a server and finding out about e-mail existing account | 17:33 |
| macmaN | DocScrutinizer: gotta love that cmdline. thats what i call gangsta. | 17:33 |
| crevetor | funny to see that the imei is passed to the kernel | 17:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-P | 17:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | crevetor: AIUI kernel is dongled to the device via imei, or maybe parts of the phone stack are, whatever | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course there's also vhash for that | 17:35 |
| crevetor | maybe | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | all hail to aegis | 17:35 |
| rlinfati | maybe i need a RDC cert to change the cmdline :/ | 17:35 |
| rlinfati | bootreason=usb bootmode=normal | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | rlinfati: for -b you need whole command line | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet there's some odds regarding that | 17:36 |
| MohammadAG | I'd guess you need to pass init=/sbin/preinit root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootflags=errors=remount-ro rootfstype=ext4 rw mtdoops.mtddev=log mtdoops.record_size=65536 console=tty0 | 17:36 |
| MohammadAG | the rest is added by NOLO | 17:37 |
| rlinfati | Stskeeps, i try with the cmd reported in /proc/cmdline | 17:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | mgedmin, figured it out. | 17:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | mgedmin, changed the filename of the book and re-added it. | 17:37 |
| macmaN | uhuhuhuh, attached gdb to oviplugin... tastyyyy | 17:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | mgedmin, I don't generally use the library either, but I hit the wrong button. *g* | 17:37 |
| macmaN | lets see if i can brick this shiznit | 17:37 |
| rlinfati | MohammadAG, not lucky with that cmdline... | 17:38 |
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| mgedmin | n950 has a nice device icon when you connect it as mass storage: http://i.imgur.com/4HEvk.png | 17:41 |
| thp | mgedmin: they probably forgot to update the icon to the black case | 17:42 |
| thp | looks like this one: http://nokiaexperts.com/articleimages/2010/08/nokia-n9-leaked.jpg | 17:43 |
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| mgedmin | aah | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | I didn't even notice | 17:48 |
| * mgedmin exports one of the layers of .n900.ico to n900.png and sets it as a custom device icon in nautilus | 17:48 | |
| mgedmin | http://i.imgur.com/5yt39.png | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | now, let's copy a gig of ebooks... | 17:52 |
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| mgedmin | usb transfer speeds reach nearly 12 megs/second | 18:01 |
| mgedmin | although many small files means the average is maybe 10x lower | 18:01 |
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| rlinfati | How i can force the obs to generate the aegis file for my package , qtcreator generate in an automatic way... | 18:17 |
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| rcg | rlinfati: https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21885 | 18:27 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 21885 maj, Undecided, ---, anas.nashif, NEW, Aegis manifests are not correctly handled/created by the builder. | 18:27 |
| rcg | i couldn't get this working as well.. the bug report pretty much summarizes what i tried so far | 18:27 |
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| rcg | to put a long story short: QtSDK and scratchbox use a modifed dpg-gencontrol which takes care of generating the manifest.. though, even if you add the manifest manually the obs will hang after your package was built | 18:28 |
| rcg | *dpkg-gencontrol | 18:29 |
| rlinfati | :( then.. i can not control the gps if i use obs :/ | 18:29 |
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| rcg | bbl | 18:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | Finally getting a feel for the N950 keyboard. | 18:33 |
| mgedmin | I've just started using it in anger | 18:33 |
| mgedmin | feels weird | 18:33 |
| mgedmin | I keep hitting p instead of , | 18:33 |
| mgedmin | or @ instead of v | 18:34 |
| mgedmin | hack to edit the book currently opened in fbreader: http://pastie.org/2290378 | 18:36 |
| mgedmin | use cases: when you notice italics are missing, you can :%s,<span class="italic">\([^<]*\)</span>,<em>\1</em>,gc | 18:37 |
| mgedmin | only problem is .profile is not sourced when I launch meego-terminal | 18:38 |
| mgedmin | will have to try my hack with export ENV=$HOME/.ashrc again | 18:39 |
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| mikhas | GA, you actually use the HWKB? | 18:49 |
| mikhas | I bet you have unlocked the orientation lock for most apps then, too | 18:49 |
| thp | does the n950 have a compass? and if so, how can i access it? | 18:50 |
| mikhas | because otherwise … it's quite useless :-( | 18:50 |
| mgedmin | mikhas, most apps? tell us more | 18:50 |
| mgedmin | thp, yes, it has a magnetometer, and you can access it using Qt Mobility Sensors API | 18:51 |
| mgedmin | qmlcompass is an open-source project that demonstrates how to do that from QML | 18:51 |
| mgedmin | you can find it on gitorious | 18:51 |
| thp | mgedmin: cool, thanks ;) | 18:51 |
| mikhas | mgedmin, every Qt component or LMT app changes orientation probably, by default | 18:51 |
| mikhas | *properly | 18:51 |
| mgedmin | oh, and beware the orientationAngle tricks it plays for accurate display; there's at least one unfixed bug there, unless crevetor fixed it already | 18:52 |
| mikhas | and certain apps have come up with an orientation lock, which you can disable on the toolkit level | 18:52 |
| mikhas | ;-) | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | mikhas, I've unlocked orientation changes for meegotouch-home | 18:52 |
| mikhas | yeah, but that's not enough | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | I was wondering what other apps there were that work reasonably well with orientation unlocked | 18:52 |
| mikhas | and that one is also buggy | 18:52 |
| mikhas | (does not draw icons properly) | 18:53 |
| mgedmin | I was also wondering how you can _lock_ the orientation in a QML project | 18:53 |
| mikhas | "Orientation unlocked" sounds like an achievement | 18:53 |
| mgedmin | (QMLCompass, to be precise) | 18:53 |
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| Tronic | How come Maps doesn't appear to be using the compass? | 18:55 |
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| GeneralAntilles | mikhas, just home. | 18:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | mikhas, contacts I haven't poked at yet. | 18:55 |
| mgedmin | incidentally, what's LMT? | 18:56 |
| mgedmin | libmeegotouch? | 18:56 |
| mikhas | yes | 18:56 |
| thp | mikhas: i want cursor keys on my vkb for xterm - i'm sure you can do that? :) | 18:56 |
| mikhas | thp, I can | 18:56 |
| mikhas | how much will you pay? | 18:57 |
| thp | will you accept payment in beer? | 18:57 |
| mikhas | har | 18:57 |
| mikhas | well, I will have to sneak this feature in so that it bypasses management, you know | 18:57 |
| mikhas | => one beer will not suffice | 18:58 |
| mikhas | and I might have to bribe the patch reviewers, too! | 18:58 |
| thp | well if you make the cursor keys colored i might be able to offer to beers | 18:58 |
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| thp | and you can share parts of the second beer with the patch reviewers | 18:58 |
| mikhas | (thp, please file a bug on bugs.meego.com and assign to me) | 18:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | You guys realize this channel is logged, right? *g* | 18:59 |
| mikhas | "VKB layouts dont allow arrow keys" or such | 18:59 |
| mgedmin | you can offer me tea to remove certain indiscreet remarks from the logs :) | 18:59 |
| mikhas | you expect management to search IRC logs? | 18:59 |
| mikhas | how cute | 18:59 |
| mikhas | mgedmin, :-D | 19:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | The ninjas, mikhas, beware the ninjas. | 19:00 |
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| mikhas | thp, you really want *x*term? | 19:01 |
| thp | mgedmin: tea bribes always remind me of http://youtu.be/sxtRGEVsSOc | 19:01 |
| leinir | oh yeah, default english vkb doesn't include an appostrophe... ;) | 19:01 |
| mikhas | leinir, symviews surely do | 19:01 |
| mikhas | thp, WTH! | 19:02 |
| thp | mikhas: well it's that meego harmattan terminal thingie. i just keep calling it xterm, even though it's not xterm per se | 19:02 |
| leinir | mikhas: when typing in an sms, i can't write can't without switching to the symbols view :P | 19:02 |
| mikhas | yeah, we couldnt decide on a nice name | 19:02 |
| mikhas | "Termite" was close | 19:02 |
| mikhas | leinir, you can easily add this yourself, you know? | 19:03 |
| mikhas | well, just wait a couple of days, you'll be in for a surprise | 19:03 |
| leinir | mikhas: it's more general feedback - i can use the flipout keyboard fine, but people with an n9 aren't going to have that possibility, yeah? :) | 19:03 |
| mgedmin | thp :) | 19:03 |
| thp | mikhas: btw, the multi-touch on the vkb and the slide-from-shift/123-key-to-another-key is really great. good work there! | 19:04 |
| mgedmin | 'xterm' became a generic term (no pun intended) for terminal emulators | 19:04 |
| mikhas | thp, we want to change it to a panning gesture though | 19:05 |
| mikhas | this layout swipe is a bit difficult to detect | 19:05 |
| mikhas | but agree, it's a nice idea | 19:05 |
| mgedmin | slide-from-shift/123? cool! | 19:06 |
| mikhas | thp, you should also be able to press symview with one finger, then enter stuff with other finger, release first from symview and be back at QWERTY | 19:06 |
| mgedmin | neat! | 19:06 |
| crevetor | slide from shift doesn't work for | 19:06 |
| mikhas | no slide-from-shift | 19:07 |
| mikhas | well, I am open for bribes | 19:07 |
| mikhas | you can keep using bugs.meego.com for VKB feature requests and such | 19:08 |
| mikhas | just dont mention it's for the N9/N950 :-D | 19:08 |
| mikhas | it'll confuse the intel guys, but eventually we are in charge of those bugs | 19:08 |
| thp | mikhas: i didn't know your bugzilla id, but here it is: https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22123 | 19:09 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 22123 nor, Undecided, ---, x2rich, NEW, Virtual keyboard layouts should allow for arrow keys | 19:09 |
| mikhas | good | 19:09 |
| thp | oh yeah, it only works for slide-from-?123, not for shift. but still neat | 19:10 |
| thp | mikhas: changing the enter key label isn't possible yet from qt components i assume? at least i haven't found anything in the api docs | 19:11 |
| mikhas | I am going to report slide-from-shift on the internal bug tracker | 19:11 |
| mikhas | as it needs UX designer feedback | 19:11 |
| mikhas | thp, there is some crack API | 19:12 |
| mikhas | hang on | 19:12 |
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| mikhas | thp, http://library.developer.nokia.com/topic/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_API/html/qt-components/qt-components-meego-sipattributes.html | 19:14 |
| mikhas | we werent asked about that API … | 19:15 |
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| mikhas | because the original API allows you to control a toolbar on top of VKB, too | 19:15 |
| mikhas | anyways, we'll push for integration of libmaliit | 19:15 |
| mikhas | thp, libmaliit: https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-framework/trees/master/maliit | 19:16 |
| mikhas | allows apps to control the VKB without any LMT dependency | 19:17 |
| mgedmin | heh, Sip is "software input panel", and nothing to do with SIP | 19:17 |
| mikhas | mgedmin, yes … | 19:17 |
| mikhas | an unfortunate Qt term | 19:17 |
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| thp | mikhas: thanks :) but the sipattributes will work on harmattan, right? | 19:24 |
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| mikhas | thp, yes | 19:34 |
| mikhas | this crack API wil work on H | 19:34 |
| thp | wow, that's a lot of drug references packed into one sentence | 19:35 |
| mikhas | ;-) | 19:35 |
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| mikhas | slide-from-shift got reported as NB#275202 | 19:36 |
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| Arkenoi | luit is not in x11-utils in harmattan? | 19:54 |
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| mgedmin | meego-terminal, we need to have a little talk | 20:25 |
| mgedmin | does it really not support xterm mouse reporting? | 20:25 |
| mgedmin | and what's this with showing me a scrollback buffer when an ncurses app is using the alternative vt100 screen? | 20:26 |
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| mgedmin | and no support for bold fonts? | 20:26 |
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| rm_work | yeah... i kinda feel like we need our own terminal app | 20:27 |
| rm_work | or is that one actually open source? | 20:28 |
| timoph | the sources for it are in gitorious | 20:28 |
| rm_work | k | 20:28 |
| timoph | the same terminal is used in N900CE | 20:28 |
| dm8tbr | I think kimju looked at it too | 20:28 |
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| timoph | but yeah. I needs some loving patches | 20:29 |
| timoph | s/I/it/ | 20:29 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:29 |
| timoph | :) | 20:29 |
| mgedmin | it appears to be based on Konsole | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | maybe it's just a matter of setting $TERM correctly? | 20:31 |
| timoph | could be. that fix was committed to the repo a week ago | 20:31 |
| timoph | https://gitorious.org/meego-terminal | 20:32 |
| rm_work | can someone build an updated package? | 20:33 |
| rm_work | i guess i could | 20:33 |
| rm_work | but not till tonight | 20:33 |
| mgedmin | I heard something about aegis not letting you upgrade nokia-signed packages with self-built ones? | 20:34 |
| timoph | haven't tried | 20:34 |
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| timoph | dunno if you can just remove the nokia signed and install your own after that | 20:34 |
| mgedmin | ooh, new meego-terminal will read ~/.profile! | 20:34 |
| rm_work | then i can always just rename it slightly :P | 20:35 |
| timoph | true | 20:35 |
| timoph | yet-another-meego-terminal :) | 20:35 |
| mgedmin | ooh, bold support! mouse support! | 20:35 |
| mgedmin | context menu! | 20:35 |
| mgedmin | hacky multi-window support? | 20:35 |
| mgedmin | shift-return works! | 20:36 |
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| mgedmin | almost all my issues have already been fixed in git :) | 20:37 |
| timoph | :) | 20:37 |
| rm_work | :P | 20:37 |
| rm_work | mgedmin: so build it :P | 20:37 |
| rm_work | might recommend renaming it anyway, having a broken terminal would suck if something goes wrong | 20:37 |
| mgedmin | hey, is it possible to ask maliit to let keys autorepeat, instead of long press entering the shifted symbol? | 20:37 |
| rm_work | would have to make it an option | 20:38 |
| rm_work | people may rely on that | 20:38 |
| mgedmin | good point | 20:38 |
| mgedmin | not everyone uses h/j/k/l navigation in vim :) | 20:38 |
| rm_work | :P | 20:39 |
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| djszapi|windows | rm_work ping | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | if anybody could explain me this: http://paste.debian.net/124513/ - particularly which credential of the set associated to devel-su -c bash (which to me looks like a SUBset of the originally available) makes it possible to run binaries that get rejected >>Operation not permitted<< under the more comprehensive set of credentials granted to the >ssh root@N950< | 20:44 |
| djszapi|windows | could you please fix the packrat up ? | 20:44 |
| rm_work | hey djszapi|windows | 20:44 |
| rm_work | ah | 20:44 |
| macmaN | DocScrutinizer: werent you giving up a few days ago? | 20:44 |
| djszapi|windows | please please | 20:44 |
| rm_work | djszapi|windows: done | 20:45 |
| rm_work | right now i am running it every night by hand T_T | 20:45 |
| rm_work | but i forgot last night | 20:45 |
| rm_work | because the webhost i'm on doesn't allow cron jobs properly | 20:45 |
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| rm_work | they give me a shell but very limited access and many missing binaries | 20:45 |
| djszapi|windows | rm_work please add our shared repository we did last night | 20:46 |
| rm_work | i had to compile a static wget and put it on there | 20:46 |
| rm_work | djszapi|windows: ah what is the path | 20:46 |
| rm_work | give me the deb line | 20:46 |
| djszapi|windows | I will delete my own repository | 20:46 |
| djszapi|windows | You can safely delete that from the list | 20:46 |
| rm_work | the list comes from the wiki page | 20:46 |
| rm_work | it is automatically parsed each update | 20:46 |
| djszapi|windows | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ | 20:46 |
| rm_work | so if you remove it from the wiki, it will disappear | 20:46 |
| rm_work | ah | 20:47 |
| djszapi|windows | I removed from the wiki =p | 20:47 |
| rm_work | that is on the wiki? | 20:47 |
| rm_work | if so, it is already automatically included | 20:47 |
| djszapi|windows | ok | 20:47 |
| djszapi|windows | so it just parses the wiki, cool to know | 20:47 |
| rm_work | Fetching http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ (Harmattan)... | 20:47 |
| rm_work | Fetched 153 packages. | 20:47 |
| djszapi|windows | Could you mention it somewhere please ? | 20:47 |
| rm_work | yeah sorry | 20:47 |
| rm_work | FMS wrong this thing | 20:47 |
| djszapi|windows | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | 20:47 |
| djszapi|windows | for instance here. | 20:47 |
| rm_work | i'm just hosting/maintaining it | 20:47 |
| rm_work | i barely know perl (what it runs in) | 20:48 |
| mgedmin | nice, harmattan scratchbox has a sbox_sync command to fix up /etc/resolv.conf | 20:48 |
| rm_work | lol | 20:48 |
| rm_work | k | 20:48 |
| djszapi|windows | rm_work: thanks for ratpack btw, really great tool for us! | 20:49 |
| dm8tbr | what tool? where? :) | 20:50 |
| Arkenoi | which package luit is now in? | 20:50 |
| djszapi|windows | dm8tbr: sort of search engine, ratpack. | 20:52 |
| dm8tbr | djszapi|windows: ah, nice, but isn't apps.meego.com supposed to cover that soon(tm) | 20:52 |
| mikhas | yeah, like real soon | 20:53 |
| djszapi|windows | I live in the presense, not the future. | 20:53 |
| mikhas | promised since when? dublin? | 20:53 |
| dm8tbr | rm_work: and you have problems hosting that because your hoster is a pain? | 20:54 |
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| * dm8tbr is running a few things forMeeGo already, so I could host that proper if necessary | 20:55 | |
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| dm8tbr | 17:55:14 * dm8tbr is running a few things forMeeGo already, so I could host that proper if necessary | 20:55 |
| rm_work | dm8tbr: nah hosting is actually great | 20:55 |
| rm_work | just shell access is limited | 20:55 |
| rm_work | i have a solution now though | 20:55 |
| dm8tbr | k | 20:55 |
| rm_work | going to set up ssh key auth to it | 20:56 |
| rm_work | and run the cron job on another machine | 20:56 |
| rm_work | it'll just SSH over to do it :P | 20:56 |
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| * dm8tbr is generally open for things that are growing around meego though | 20:57 | |
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| rm_work | updated wiki | 20:57 |
| dm8tbr | I recently moved the meego image hosting to images.formeego.org | 20:57 |
| dm8tbr | before it used to be named http://bug10738.openaos.org/ | 20:59 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10738 nor, Undecided, ---, david, NEED, Meego community ftp server or similar needed | 20:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, so how's this community repo suggested to get added to device? | 21:15 |
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| twoboxen | Can someone please help me with including icons into the deb package? | 21:16 |
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| twoboxen | desktop.path = $SHARE_DIR/applications/hildon | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | desktop.files += debian/app.desktop | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | icon26.path = $SHARE_DIR/icons/hicolor/26x26/apps | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | icon26.files += app_26.png | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | icon48.path = $SHARE_DIR/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | icon48.files += app_48.png | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | icon64.path = $SHARE_DIR/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | icon64.files += app_64.png | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | SHARE_DIR=/usr/share | 21:17 |
| twoboxen | these lines are in my app.pro | 21:18 |
| twoboxen | I cannot figure out why it's not part of the debian package | 21:18 |
| * mgedmin is sadly completely clueless about qmake and .pro files | 21:19 | |
| mgedmin | what's this unofficial-meego-terminal_0.1.8.1mg1_armel.deb.unsigned I got when I dpkg-buildpackage'd a (renamed) meego-terminal? | 21:19 |
| mgedmin | do I put this file into an apt repo next to the .deb? | 21:19 |
| Scifig | twoboxen, Your INSTALLS includes all the icon26 incon48 etc? | 21:19 |
| Scifig | in .pro file? | 21:20 |
| twoboxen | ah… so I have "INSTALLS += target"… that should be "INSTALLS += target icon26 icon48..."? | 21:20 |
| Scifig | twoboxen, yes | 21:20 |
| twoboxen | same with desktop, i suppose | 21:21 |
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| Scifig | Yep | 21:21 |
| twoboxen | thanks! trying now | 21:21 |
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| twoboxen | I messed up the paths, but it works. Thanks! | 21:23 |
| Scifig | You are welcome | 21:23 |
| * mgedmin wants pstree for harmattan | 21:23 | |
| * DocScrutinizer wants procps for harmattan (among a lot of other stuff, to get rid of messybox annoyance) | 21:26 | |
| mgedmin | rm_you, you can find a more-or-less working unofficial meego-terminal build at http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/harmattan/ | 21:26 |
| mgedmin | it lacks an icon on the home screen for some reason | 21:26 |
| twoboxen | what path will it look for icons in? | 21:27 |
| RST38h | What is the difference from the default terminal? | 21:27 |
| fiferboy | mgedmin: Thanks for the mention in your blog post! | 21:28 |
| mgedmin | RST38h, https://gitorious.org/meego-terminal/meego-terminal/commits/master | 21:28 |
| mgedmin | these fixes | 21:28 |
| RST38h | aha | 21:28 |
| RST38h | also, can you upload the "final" source package for fbreader? | 21:29 |
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| RST38h | the repo contains series of diffs | 21:29 |
| mgedmin | RST38h, what, you don't like quilt? :) | 21:29 |
| mgedmin | unpack the .dsc, go inside, quilt push -a, and you'll see the "final" source tree | 21:30 |
| Arkenoi | fbreader seems to be quite stable. though settings UI is even less usable than on fremantle | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | yes | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | someone ought to rewrite the UI in QML | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | (hint hint ;)) | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | ok, time to go hunt some supper | 21:32 |
| mgedmin | RST38h, http://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt <-- I actually quite liked this | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | I should've separated my changes instead of lumping them into a single harmattan.patch | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | well, next time | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | could somebody share a pointer to a suggestion on how to add community repo to N950 list of used repositories, please? | 21:33 |
| mgedmin | DocScrutinizer, what community repo? | 21:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ | 21:34 |
| mgedmin | hm | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page#Development_Repositories | 21:35 |
| mgedmin | probably something like 'echo deb http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ ./' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rzr.list | 21:35 |
| mgedmin | I hate that url | 21:35 |
| RST38h | mgedmin: I would rather much prefer not having to learn it =) | 21:37 |
| RST38h | Unless absolutely necessary | 21:37 |
| RST38h | So, if you have got the up-to-date tarball, could you upload it somewhere? =) | 21:38 |
| mgedmin | just patch the thing | 21:38 |
| mgedmin | I know a bit about version control, and I know a bit about debian packaging tools | 21:39 |
| mgedmin | I don't know the right way to integrate the two | 21:39 |
| RST38h | hmm.. tarball does not have debian/maemo6 | 21:40 |
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| * Arkenoi wonders why devkit is 16Gb version. completely irrational. | 21:43 | |
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| GeneralAntilles | I wouldn't be bothered by it if the media player would handle DLNA shares. | 21:46 |
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| * RST38h tries debian rules/control template from vim | 21:51 | |
| RST38h | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:/home/user/MyDocs# run-speccy | 21:52 |
| RST38h | -sh: run-speccy: Operation not permitted | 21:52 |
| RST38h | Fuck. | 21:52 |
| RST38h | What do I do? | 21:52 |
| RST38h | How do I fix this ? | 21:52 |
| RST38h | Anyone? | 21:52 |
| fiferboy | RST38h: sh file? | 21:53 |
| RST38h | Unpacking replacement speccy ... | 21:53 |
| RST38h | aegis-installing speccy (from '') | 21:53 |
| RST38h | Setting up speccy (1.7.0-3) ... | 21:53 |
| RST38h | fiferboy: yes, but the binary itself gives the same error | 21:53 |
| fiferboy | RST38h: try 'sh run-speccy' | 21:53 |
| antman8969 | can't run the user's binaries ass root | 21:53 |
| antman8969 | su user | 21:53 |
| RST38h | it will not run the binary | 21:53 |
| RST38h | AH | 21:54 |
| RST38h | antman: thanks! | 21:54 |
| antman8969 | dont thank me yet lol | 21:54 |
| antman8969 | try firs | 21:54 |
| antman8969 | also, you can't even rm the users files | 21:54 |
| fiferboy | Yeah, I find that a REALLY strange limitation of root | 21:54 |
| antman8969 | yea | 21:54 |
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| antman8969 | the only thing root can do that no one else can do is install? | 21:54 |
| RST38h | yohoho | 21:54 |
| RST38h | it runs | 21:54 |
| antman8969 | woo | 21:54 |
| hiemanshu | fiferboy: its not a bug, its a feature (TM) | 21:54 |
| antman8969 | lol | 21:55 |
| fiferboy | hiemanshu: I find that a REALLY strange feature of root :P | 21:55 |
| RST38h | Ok, now let us get emulation running... | 21:55 |
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| Scifig | My first brush with aegis. The script I deployed to event.d/ doesn't run. Aegis: credp_kcheck failed 9990004 shake2skip-daemon | 22:48 |
| Scifig | Aegis: shake2skip-daemon verification failed (source origin check) | 22:48 |
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| Scifig | So, what now? Do I need a manifest file? What should I include in the manifest file? | 22:48 |
| djszapi | learn how the platform works ? | 22:48 |
| djszapi | Venemo o/ | 22:48 |
| Venemo | hey djszapi | 22:49 |
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| rcg | btw anyone who wants to build an app with aegis manifest should be aware of: https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21885 or even better vote for it | 22:52 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 21885 maj, Undecided, ---, anas.nashif, NEW, Aegis manifests are not correctly handled/created by the builder. | 22:52 |
| mgedmin | Scifig, how did you deploy it? | 22:52 |
| rcg | i.e. build with the obs | 22:52 |
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| Scifig | mgedmin, It is included in qmake project file INSTALLS. Installed as part of .deb | 22:53 |
| dm8tbr | rcg: it's assigned to someone with an intel address, that spells trouble | 22:54 |
| dm8tbr | rcg: you want to talk to xfade instead | 22:54 |
| Scifig | The actual binary is in /opt/shake2skip/bin folder and this daemon script is deployed to /etc/event.d | 22:54 |
| rcg | dm8tbr: hmmz ic.. will do so next week.. i think he has off during the weekend? | 22:54 |
| dm8tbr | rcg: dunno. I see lbt is on cc though, so it's not completely under the radar. | 22:55 |
| rcg | anyways.. xfade and lbt were quite busy these days.. dunno if they find time for this one | 22:55 |
| rcg | though, i think this one is really important as it essentially blocks all packets using aegis from being published via obs | 22:56 |
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| dm8tbr | rcg: yes, it kind of breaks the apps.meego.com story etc | 22:57 |
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| mgedmin | twitter news: "@fbreader: @mgedmin Thanks. We plan to release "official" version for Nokia qt devices (both symbian and meego) at end of August." | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so aegis finally caused a common major problem, rather than issues for freaks like me? Rather unexpected ;-) | 23:07 |
| dm8tbr | DocScrutinizer51: that would be blowing it out of proportion | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | grr meego wiki openid login redirects me to the front page instead of the page I wanted to edit | 23:10 |
| * Arkenoi wonders what it takes to run preenv on harmattan | 23:10 | |
| fiferboy | mgedmin: That's good news, although the phrasing of "official" makes is a bit odd | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | the quotes are interesting | 23:11 |
| mgedmin | probably used for "emphasis" :) | 23:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dm8tbr: just managed to read more backscroll, yes it's at best a marginal annoyance | 23:11 |
| rcg | well i think they were that busy setting the obs up for us that they simply didnt had the aegis specific pitfalls on the screen yet | 23:14 |
| dm8tbr | they got it up real quick anyway | 23:15 |
| rcg | yeah :) .. and are busy as hell improving it | 23:16 |
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| rcg | i think lbt mentioned something about having worked the weekend through to get things running better | 23:17 |
| wazd | hello everyone :) | 23:17 |
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| rcg | also the issue with respect to the modified dpkg-gencontrol can be worked around quite easily if you put the correct command in your rules file | 23:18 |
| lardman | evening all | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | lo wazd | 23:18 |
| rcg | evening | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | lo lardman | 23:18 |
| lardman | hi DocScrutinizer, rcg | 23:18 |
| lardman | while we're talking about debian/rules, any ideas how to set the optimisation flags that qmake generates in the Makefile? | 23:19 |
| rcg | what is more annoying / strange is that the obs "hangs" once a *.deb with aegis manifest finished the build process | 23:19 |
| lardman | and equally, will removing optimisation flags make gdb bt work? | 23:19 |
| * lardman is trying to track down a segfault | 23:20 | |
| rcg | lardman: QMAKE_CXXFLAGS? | 23:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | Anybody figure out where the settings finds wallpapers? | 23:21 |
| lardman | I tried exporting that in rules, but while it seems to affect dpkg-buildpackage it doesn't change the flags in the Makefile | 23:21 |
| rcg | lardman: its set in the project file here | 23:22 |
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| rcg | i.e. the qt *.pro file | 23:22 |
| lardman | ah, ok, will give that a go instead | 23:22 |
| lardman | thanks | 23:22 |
| rcg | then qmake should pick it up on generating the makefile | 23:22 |
| rcg | yw | 23:23 |
| Scifig | Anyone successful in creating a daemon for harmattan? | 23:23 |
| lardman | hmm, no change, still have -O2 | 23:24 |
| * lardman tries appending _DEBUG | 23:24 | |
| mgedmin | lardman, try DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot ... | 23:25 |
| mgedmin | lemmecheck if I got the spelling right | 23:25 |
| mgedmin | DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip is right | 23:25 |
| lardman | ok, will give that a go, thanks mgedmin | 23:26 |
| lardman | rcg: your suggestion didn't work btw | 23:27 |
| rcg | hmm.. this is what my *.pro file says | 23:27 |
| rcg | QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden | 23:27 |
| rcg | QMAKE_LFLAGS += -pie -rdynamic | 23:27 |
| GeneralAntilles | Anybody benched the eMMC yet? | 23:27 |
| lardman | rcg: that's added on to some default *FLAGS though, I wonder how to alter the default | 23:28 |
| rcg | lardman: ah.. now ic | 23:28 |
| rcg | nevermind then ;) | 23:28 |
| lardman | thanks for trying though :) | 23:28 |
| rcg | np.. i wish it woulda have worked better, though ;) | 23:30 |
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| lardman | mgedmin: I still don;t see any useful info - the segfault occurs in the qt functions, but the bt is still broken | 23:32 |
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| mgedmin | lardman, :( | 23:35 |
| mgedmin | pastebinit please? | 23:35 |
| mgedmin | also, can we ask for libqtgui4-dbgsym? | 23:36 |
| lardman | mgedmin: http://pastebin.com/NX5DJJ4a | 23:36 |
| mgedmin | well, it did say "Reading symbols from /usr/bin/photoanalyser...done.", so you got the debug symbols for your app | 23:37 |
| mgedmin | qt doesn't have symbols, sadly | 23:37 |
| mgedmin | ooh! | 23:38 |
| mgedmin | the SDK repo has libqtgui4-dbg | 23:38 |
| lardman | shame I can't know which fn the segfaulting fn was called from though | 23:38 |
| lardman | hmm, sounds good | 23:38 |
| mgedmin | I'm tempted to install it on the device | 23:38 |
| mgedmin | yes, it ships /usr/lib/debug with all the goodies | 23:39 |
| mgedmin | awesome! | 23:39 |
| mgedmin | why didn't I think about this when I was trying to debug fbreader? | 23:39 |
| lardman | is that repo enabled by default? | 23:42 |
| mgedmin | no | 23:42 |
| lardman | do you know how large it is | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | ssh root@RM680.lan; echo deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sdk.list; apt-get update | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | 36 MB download | 23:43 |
| * lardman wonders whether to install thqat or work out some other way | 23:43 | |
| mgedmin | installing now... | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | done | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | hm, any harmful stuff in the sdk repo? | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | apt-get upgrade -> 0 upgraded | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | so, none | 23:43 |
| mgedmin | now, what could I gdb with this....? | 23:44 |
| lardman | ~92MB installed... :) | 23:44 |
| lardman | extra that is | 23:44 |
| lardman | hmm, well that hasn't changed the gdb outpu | 23:46 |
| lardman | t | 23:47 |
| mgedmin | yes! | 23:47 |
| mgedmin | I got qt debug symbooools | 23:48 |
| lardman | http://pastebin.com/QzTXgnEE fwiw | 23:48 |
| mgedmin | lardman, you want libqt4-dbus-dbg, I believe | 23:49 |
| lardman | ah, yet more debugging symbols | 23:49 |
| lardman | thanks | 23:49 |
| mgedmin | for every library without debug symbols | 23:49 |
| lardman | if only backtraces worked under ARM | 23:49 |
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| mgedmin | do dpkg -S /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 | 23:49 |
| mgedmin | then look for the -dbg version of that deb | 23:50 |
| lardman | cool, libqtcore4-dbg | 23:50 |
| mgedmin | did you mean symbol-less backtraces? | 23:50 |
| lardman | well at least knowing which fn had been called from my code | 23:51 |
| MohammadAG | yay for breaking standard naming | 23:53 |
| MohammadAG | libqt4-* should've been used :/ | 23:53 |
| lardman | nice, I have something to work with now, thanks mgedmin | 23:53 |
| mgedmin | have fun, lardman! | 23:53 |
| lardman | hmmm ;) | 23:53 |
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