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| Fiona | Is this thing on ?? | 00:04 |
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| Fiona | I'm in the | 00:05 |
| Fiona | Wellington pub | 00:05 |
| Fiona | No one was in the aussie bar -- nice food though | 00:05 |
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| holdenweb | Call this a conference? It's only 11:15 and the channel has less than 50 people on it | 01:13 |
| * holdenweb realizes he ought to confess he writes this from the comfort of^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^^H^H^H his hotel room. | 01:14 | |
| holdenweb | ;-) | 01:14 |
| Tv | i walked through Wellington enough to see geeky people talking | 01:15 |
| Tv | needed to hunt, entrap and skin a pizza, though | 01:16 |
| Tv | i've been up 27 hours at this point :( | 01:16 |
| matti | Actually. | 01:18 |
| tobixen | Tv! :-) | 01:24 |
| tobixen | I just came back to the hotel | 01:24 |
| Tv | tobixen: hi.. i'm at the nitenite el cheapo capsule hotel, near west end of the Mailbox mall thingie | 01:24 |
| tobixen | whatever ... we'll meet tomorrow ;-) I'm considering to get up early and volunteer for registration .... | 01:26 |
| matti | ;] | 01:26 |
| holdenweb | Tv: Capsule hotel? Really? I passed it and wondered why it wasn't on the official list. As a registered claustrophobe I'll probably not switch at this stage :) | 01:27 |
| Tv | holdenweb: where as i usually keep hotel room curtains closed anyway | 01:27 |
| holdenweb | It's not a matter of curtains, it's a matter of the lack of resemblance to a certain vertical rock fissure that I met in my youth during blasting at a nearby quarry ... | 01:29 |
| Tv | well let me assure you at ep2008 i did not get any salvation from the idea that i could climb out the window on the what-was-it-7th? floor window.. | 01:30 |
| Tv | aand i've been awake 27.5 hours.. | 01:30 |
| matti | Tv: ... and counting. | 01:31 |
| Tv | not really counting very well, anymore ;) | 01:32 |
| * Mez yawns | 01:37 | |
| matti | matti: You arrived yet? | 01:38 |
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| * Mez thinks matti is drunk | 01:38 | |
| tobixen | or schizofreniac | 01:39 |
| tobixen | tobixen: and how are you? | 01:39 |
| tobixen | ;-) | 01:39 |
| Mez | Schizophreniac :D | 01:39 |
| Mez | yay, I've been paid. | 01:40 |
| Mez | Now I ust have to wait for the bank to open tomorrow morning | 01:40 |
| matti | Heh. | 01:40 |
| Mez | I've decided that I'm going to use random change I have lying around to get into town, then register, then bugger off to the bank for 9, then go get breakfast, and be back (hopefully) for 10 | 01:41 |
| Mez | but I should be off to bed now, gotta pack up my laptop etc in the morning | 01:42 |
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| holdenweb | Night-night, EuroPython | 01:59 |
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| Aquilae | Yeah, sweet dreams. | 02:54 |
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| * Mez clears the sleet from his eyes | 07:52 | |
| tobixen | morning | 08:45 |
| Mez | morning | 08:49 |
| * Mez is having a smoke then going to jump on a bus | 08:50 | |
| Mez | anyone else up stupidly early? | 08:51 |
| Mez | obviously not? | 09:31 |
| tobixen | there are some 3-4 people in the conference venue already | 09:44 |
| tobixen | at least 5 including me and ... one of the crew, don't remember his name | 09:44 |
| tobixen | wifi works great now that it's almost without users ;-) | 09:45 |
| tobixen | 6 and counting ;-) | 09:45 |
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| tobixen | so many people! the wifi is going to break down for sure! | 10:20 |
| SafPlusPlus | Nice and busy here... | 10:38 |
| * SafPlusPlus feels nearly guilty for uploading europython photo's to flickr... :) | 10:40 | |
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| fiona` | wireless is terrible | 10:47 |
| fiona` | in the conference venue | 10:47 |
| fiona` | it only just works | 10:47 |
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| fiona` | the wireless has started to behave | 10:58 |
| fiona` | for how long - no one knowss | 10:58 |
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| nick_fn_tablet | colourful mics! | 11:13 |
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| fiona` | this is awesome - i think i have secured the only plug socket in the hall | 11:15 |
| fiona` | there's only one here too | 11:15 |
| nick_fn_tablet | haha :-) well found | 11:17 |
| nick_fn_tablet | I see one spare on the stage though | 11:18 |
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| matti | Hm. | 11:34 |
| Mez | if anyone sees ciaran ooney before i do can ypu let him know i've got charging cables for him | 11:35 |
| matti | You can send him email. | 11:36 |
| Mez | too lazy. at maplins | 11:37 |
| matti | Well, good luck ;] | 11:39 |
| * matti off to do something interesting. | 11:39 | |
| FND | does anyone happen to have a DE->UK power plug adaptor I could borrow for ~3 hrs (need to charge my cell phone) | 11:44 |
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| MrWu | re | 11:45 |
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| MrWu | fiona``: I was about to say, some minutes ago, that (just in case it is needed) I've a power extension with 6 "european-like" holes/plugs on it (+ the needed adapter) | 11:47 |
| MrWu | (I noticed you were talking about power plugs) | 11:47 |
| fiona`` | hehe | 11:47 |
| fiona`` | i found a plug at the back | 11:47 |
| fiona`` | of the new lecture theater | 11:48 |
| fiona`` | and i use british plugs | 11:48 |
| fiona`` | aka: awkward as fuck plugs | 11:48 |
| FND | they're bulky, but many people praise them | 11:49 |
| fiona`` | they are safer apparently | 11:49 |
| fiona`` | but if that is true or not | 11:49 |
| * fiona`` shrugs | 11:49 | |
| fiona`` | i don't know anything about electronics | 11:50 |
| fiona`` | i can put a computer together and write teh codez | 11:50 |
| fiona`` | that's about it | 11:50 |
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| FND | I can subscribe to that | 11:51 |
| fiona`` | py | 11:52 |
| fiona`` | py | 11:52 |
| fiona`` | PyPyPyPy | 11:52 |
| MrWu | ok, just in case anyone needed them, just ask here (or the guy with the orange power adapter, jejeje) | 11:54 |
| FND | MrWu: thanks, I suppose I'll find you (will have to get the cell phone charger from the hotel first though) | 11:55 |
| nick_fn_tablet | Need what? I arrived too late | 11:55 |
| FND | continental power sockets | 11:55 |
| FND | (I think that's what we were talking about) | 11:55 |
| MrWu | yup | 11:56 |
| nick_fn_tablet | We could do with uk splitter in recital room | 11:56 |
| nick_fn_tablet | I think we have a spare continental one | 11:56 |
| MrWu | didn't know the proper name (we spanish people, most of the time can't find the proper name of things... :D) | 11:56 |
| MrWu | nick_fn_tablet: I was saying I've a 6-plug adapter, so I've some free space on it (just in case someone needed it) | 11:57 |
| nick_fn_tablet | We are solved now I think | 11:59 |
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| MrWu | nice | 11:59 |
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| nick_fn_tablet | During a break I might get my 6 way from hotel | 12:00 |
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| dreimark | is jan ulrich hasecke from plone around? | 12:08 |
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| CMooney | Hi all. | 12:17 |
| CMooney | ianto, Fecking welsh. | 12:17 |
| fiona`` | hi Mez was looking for you | 12:17 |
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| fiona`` | he said he has your charging cables i think | 12:18 |
| CMooney | ... when .. last i heard he was going for a smole. | 12:18 |
| CMooney | He found me, using them now. Thanks for passing on the message though. | 12:18 |
| fiona`` | k :) | 12:18 |
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| VladDrac | hi | 12:35 |
| CMooney | he he spamming @europython's twitter bot | 12:35 |
| VladDrac | just noticed that the "advanced search" button on europython.org doesn't work (404) | 12:36 |
| CMooney | ah. Well I can say that is unlikely to get fixed now.... | 12:36 |
| CMooney | What are you looking for? | 12:36 |
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| Mez | hey fiona`` I'm around, somewhere, currently sitting in the crew room. | 12:38 |
| fiona`` | python related question - if i'm doing a lot of re.compile() calls, do you think it's worth compiling them ahead of time and then just matching on them instead of compiling each time? | 12:38 |
| fiona`` | hi mez | 12:38 |
| fiona`` | i'm in the pypy talk | 12:39 |
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| * Mez hates his wireless card. | 12:39 | |
| Mez | I'm in the crew room, hiding, trying to fix something for work. | 12:40 |
| VladDrac | not looking for anything specific, just reporting a site issue :) | 12:40 |
| CMooney | VladDrac, Thanks, you can be really helpfull and put it on the Feedforward Page, so we may remember for next yera | 12:41 |
| CMooney | Mez, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. | 12:42 |
| VladDrac | ok | 12:42 |
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| Mez | CMooney: run while you still can. | 12:48 |
| * CMooney points and laughs at Mez's wifi | 12:49 | |
| Mez | yeah,It's this laptop, it sucks. | 12:49 |
| Mez | It has no lapic timer, or it wont boot. | 12:49 |
| Mez | I guess I could run vista.... | 12:49 |
| CMooney | shame on you | 12:50 |
| * Mez stabs himself in the eye eiwith a fork | 12:50 | |
| CMooney | good, feel better? Using vista would feel worse. | 12:51 |
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| Tv | so did ep2009 have an open spaces track? | 12:52 |
| Tv | is there a board for that? | 12:52 |
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| MrTopf | Hi | 13:21 |
| nick_fn_tablet | hello | 13:22 |
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| aa_ | go europython! | 13:35 |
| MrTopf | don't go, network! ;-) | 13:36 |
| Mez | The wireless sucks.. well, with m lappy anyways (damned SiS Hardware) | 13:36 |
| Mez | thank god for 3G | 13:36 |
| Tv | Mez: the wifi works perfectly well, maybe you just need a thinkpad ;) | 13:37 |
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| MrWu | :) | 13:38 |
| MrWu | we are a lot of poeple in the pyjamas talk | 13:38 |
| MrWu | :) | 13:38 |
| MrTopf | and as soon as I said this of course it kicked me ;-) | 13:39 |
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| Mez | Tv: nah, it's my laptop that doesnt like wireless.. it treats 3g as a wired connection, or doesnt need the lapic_timer or something. | 13:45 |
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| TheSheep | only 72 | 13:48 |
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| Tv | the zen of pyjamas was extremely hot and full | 13:52 |
| Tv | (no double entendres please) | 13:52 |
| chrisw | :-) | 13:52 |
| TheSheep | it still is | 13:52 |
| DuncF_ | Tv: nudge nudge ;-) ;- | 13:52 |
| Tv | DuncF_: twss | 13:52 |
| MrWu | now I'm really sorry I couldn't attend the pyjamas tutorial :( | 13:53 |
| Tv | the crowdsourcing talk is funny, even if the speaker isn't | 13:53 |
| Tv | so full of censorship | 13:54 |
| MrWu | the one from simon? | 13:55 |
| Tv | yea | 13:55 |
| Mez | Tv: he's been on about mysociety a couple of times. Matthew Somerville did a talk about that which is quite amusing @ our lug not long back | 13:55 |
| Mez | http://sourceguru.org/videos/4/ | 13:55 |
| Mez | Something for your bookmarks :D | 13:55 |
| MrWu | thnx Mez | 13:56 |
| Mez | MrWu: no worries, it's an interesting talk. | 13:57 |
| Mez | Right, time to save my battery for the next talk, apparently it will have IRC interaction :D | 13:57 |
| Mez | With ianto as a slave :D | 13:57 |
| Tv | it will never live up to standards set at pycon | 13:58 |
| Tv | ;) | 13:58 |
| dreimark | TheSheep: you have counted? | 14:00 |
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| Tv | thaaat's not a craaash | 14:05 |
| Tv | (thiis is a craash) | 14:05 |
| Tv | ^ "Crash #1: more Apache children than MySQL connections" in the crowdsourcing talk | 14:06 |
| Tv | just giving 500 internal errors for hits above load threshold ain't "crashing" | 14:06 |
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| CMooney | Tv hi | 14:07 |
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| CMooney | Tv, yes to both your questions | 14:08 |
| CMooney | ok? | 14:08 |
| Tv | CMooney: i found the whiteboard with just some topics, no timing etc | 14:08 |
| Tv | CMooney: the one with lightning talks on it, too | 14:08 |
| Tv | CMooney: is that it? | 14:08 |
| MrTopf | yeah, the open space board probably should have time slots and it would be nice if people would introduce their sessions tomorrow morning | 14:09 |
| CMooney | Neither will have topics other than those the delegates write on it. There may be two boards in the foyer, there is certainly one for the openspace (or maybe half of one) | 14:09 |
| ambv | CMooney: where can I find you? I'm at the Twisted talk in Arena Foyer now | 14:10 |
| CMooney | In the recital hall, nursing audio equipment. If you want to put some kind of blank grid for talks, just draw one on. The organisers are being hands-off when it comes to openspace. | 14:10 |
| * ambv is llanga == true | 14:10 | |
| CMooney | ambv, Hi! | 14:10 |
| ambv | *True | 14:10 |
| ambv | :D | 14:10 |
| MrTopf | if nobody has done it I will do it.. I guess we use the same slots as the timetable | 14:11 |
| CMooney | ambv, We will have to have a chat later about audio stuff etc, not urgent though. I'll be the blond guy in a blue shirt, looking tired :) | 14:11 |
| Tv | MrTopf: the concept of people being there in the mornings is fired anyway | 14:11 |
| MrTopf | I will be there :-) | 14:11 |
| CMooney | MrTopf, Please do! | 14:12 |
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| CMooney | Remeber it's not as rigid as our timetable so allow for fuzzyness, people may want 15, 30, 45 or 60 mins .... | 14:12 |
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| CMooney | ambv, We seem to be the twitter whores..... | 14:12 |
| MrTopf | but we should have announced it today that people should present sessions tomorrow.. so please sign me up for next year as barcamp part organizer :) | 14:12 |
| ambv | CMooney: two things. First of all, most of other people seem to use #europython instead of @europython | 14:13 |
| MrTopf | and maybe somebody can tell people tomorrow morning to use the "europython" tag and #europython hashtag | 14:13 |
| CMooney | MrTopf, Sign up to the europython-improve mailing list, put it on the feedforward wiki page and keep reminding us! | 14:13 |
| MrTopf | I am on there and mailed about it :-) | 14:13 |
| MrTopf | but anyway, will be more pro-active next year | 14:14 |
| Tv | ambv: typical twitter use is # for just chatter, @ for more announcement-style | 14:14 |
| MrTopf | I just thought Bruce Eckel would be talking about it | 14:14 |
| Tv | ambv: if you spam @europython people will just stop following it | 14:14 |
| CMooney | @europython is what gets the bot to repeat it to all the followers...., I don't know much about twitter this is my first flirtation with it. John P has a python bot doing mos of it | 14:14 |
| MrTopf | I am not sure the @ is a good idea.. now people are not using the hashtag | 14:14 |
| MrTopf | and @ maybe should only be for organizers | 14:14 |
| Tv | that's why you sigh, give up, and just search for europython ;) | 14:14 |
| CMooney | MrTopf, Being pro-active is the default if you want anything done. | 14:14 |
| ambv | CMooney: Second of all, my boss told me to inform him through Twitter that I'm actually at the venue and not sight-seeing. | 14:15 |
| MrTopf | I know, just having a lazy EP this year after doing Barcamp and video last year | 14:15 |
| CMooney | meh. it's up to people what they use | 14:15 |
| CMooney | ambv, lol! | 14:15 |
| Nailor | I suggest using hashtags, easier to create saved searches and doesn't pollute the "official" twittering too much | 14:15 |
| CMooney | I'm off to the ABH to watch the snake oil..... | 14:15 |
| Tv | ambv: so there's this timed twitter sending service... | 14:15 |
| MrTopf | well, it's good to have some rules so that stuff is findable | 14:15 |
| MrTopf | I will send that to the list maybe | 14:15 |
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| ambv | Tv: LOL | 14:16 |
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| nick_fn_tablet | MongoDB listeners have lunch offset by 10 mins | 14:19 |
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| Nailor | mmghay | 14:19 |
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| MS- | Anyone with a VGA dongle? One appears to be needed in the Band room | 14:20 |
| MS- | Ah they have one now :-) | 14:20 |
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| CMooney | ... | 14:29 |
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| Tv | Bah sharding isn't an add-on you plop on top, proper distributed systems are so much nicer (re mongodb talk) | 14:32 |
| Tv | actually, here's a rule: if you say sharding, you're still doing it wrong | 14:33 |
| * ambv agrees | 14:33 | |
| HerrTopf | I see, everybody is in the talk, I am in, too :-) | 14:33 |
| HerrTopf | just mailed to the list about tags to use and slideshare | 14:33 |
| Tv | eww slideshare | 14:34 |
| Tv | how about you just publish slides, instead of uploading them to a crappy service that tries to force me to register to download anything | 14:34 |
| HerrTopf | because it gets more publicity | 14:34 |
| Tv | well then do that _also_ | 14:34 |
| Tv | slideshare is evil | 14:35 |
| HerrTopf | sure, I am not saying you shouldn't upload it anywhere else | 14:35 |
| Tv | we as an open source community should not support slideshare | 14:35 |
| HerrTopf | right, we should leave that to PHP and Ruby people :-) | 14:35 |
| ambv | bah, saying that RDBMSs are not performant lights a warning sign in my head | 14:36 |
| dreimark | didn' we have a wiki were you upload talks | 14:36 |
| Tv | ambv: depends on your definition of performant | 14:36 |
| HerrTopf | sure, I would say, the more you spread your talks, the better | 14:36 |
| Tv | ambv: i've killed both postgres & mysql with too many rows.. | 14:36 |
| ambv | Tv: I guess most of the new & hip "databases" could be killed with large scale as well | 14:37 |
| Tv | ambv: try that on e.g. cassandra, and have fun.. | 14:37 |
| ambv | large scale as the data domain scale | 14:37 |
| HerrTopf | probably you can kill any database with just too much data ;-) | 14:37 |
| Tv | ambv: couch or something like that, sure, most of those are backed by a silly bdb backend | 14:38 |
| ambv | I'm all for innovation but lately it seems that every developer wants to have his "own" database implementation | 14:38 |
| HerrTopf | hehe :) | 14:38 |
| HerrTopf | maybe some will survive | 14:38 |
| ambv | yeah, along with great "epic failure" stories | 14:39 |
| ambv | let me observe this comfortably from a distance | 14:39 |
| ambv | ;) | 14:39 |
| HerrTopf | thinking about TopfDB | 14:39 |
| Tv | ambv: that's more of a problem in the non-replicated end of the ecosystem | 14:39 |
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| Tv | ambv: the higher end is just too hard to do at all, so there's only a few promising projects | 14:40 |
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| Tv | ambv: and most of those have wildly different designs, so you pick the one that behaves the way you want, and they really don't compete as such | 14:40 |
| HerrTopf | Blog backend? It writes data to a weblog? :) | 14:40 |
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| ambv | it has a Twitter publising stored procedure | 14:41 |
| ambv | *publishing | 14:41 |
| ambv | ;) | 14:41 |
| MrTopf | right, why store it yourself? ;-) | 14:41 |
| MrTopf | "we just push everything to twitter and flickr because we assume they have their storage problems sorted out" | 14:42 |
| ambv | oh yeah | 14:42 |
| Tv | a blog is like the most non-challenging example for a modern database | 14:42 |
| ambv | I love these types of examples | 14:42 |
| ambv | Tv: exactly | 14:42 |
| Tv | you could store most blogs in a single file | 14:42 |
| ambv | you can basilly pickle the whole thing :/ | 14:42 |
| Tv | as in, rewrite fully on every write | 14:42 |
| Tv | heh | 14:42 |
| ambv | *basically | 14:42 |
| MrTopf | one could indeed simply use ZODB | 14:42 |
| Tv | ambv: except for suggesting pickle, i agree ;) | 14:42 |
| ambv | pickle as a concept | 14:43 |
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| ambv | we can jsonpickle it, ZODB it, Axiom it | 14:43 |
| Tv | ambv: as for suggesting pickle, i might have to kill you, just to keep the idea away from the public eye | 14:43 |
| ambv | whatever | 14:43 |
| CMooney | ... be great if talk slides were uploaded to the wiki, http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials | 14:43 |
| ambv | Tv: LOL, now that you've announced it | 14:43 |
| ambv | I'm safe | 14:43 |
| ambv | ;) | 14:43 |
| CMooney | What is the irc room for the snakeoil talk? | 14:45 |
| ambv | Tv: why are you so touchy about pickle? | 14:45 |
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| Tv | ambv: security | 14:45 |
| Tv | ambv: plus i disagree with the whole mentality of "pickle it all", i prefer very explicit data storage | 14:45 |
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| ambv | in terms of safety, what would you suggest instead? | 14:46 |
| Tv | ambv: json | 14:46 |
| ambv | how is that more safe? | 14:46 |
| Tv | ambv: loading it cannot evaluate random code, it's _just_ data | 14:46 |
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| Tv | ambv: see why pickle is evil? even you didn't know loading untrusted pickle is totally insecure | 14:47 |
| ambv | OK, I see | 14:47 |
| ambv | is that documented excplicitly? | 14:47 |
| Tv | using pickle for data storage is like writing machine code as data and executing it to reload | 14:48 |
| Tv | just a tiny bit harder for the attacker | 14:48 |
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| Tv | and then we see people using pickle in network protocols | 14:48 |
| Tv | gah | 14:48 |
| Tv | kill it with fire, i say | 14:48 |
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| fiona` | lols | 14:49 |
| holizz | That was a fun ... IRC chat. | 14:49 |
| Tv | " Warning The pickle module is not intended to be secure against erroneous or maliciously constructed data. Never unpickle data received from an untrusted or unauthenticated source. " | 14:49 |
| MrTopf | but wouldn't you still need the class to perform something? | 14:49 |
| Tv | ambv: in an ideal world, that'd be enough | 14:49 |
| Tv | MrTopf: that's where the "a tiny bit harder" comes into effect | 14:50 |
| Tv | MrTopf: easier to exploit than writing shellcode, afaik | 14:50 |
| holizz | Oh yeah, lunch. Wonder if the vegan option is a) stuffed peppers or b) baked potato. | 14:50 |
| MrTopf | guess I missed the snakeoil talk | 14:50 |
| fiona` | it was the best tallk | 14:51 |
| MrTopf | ok, then I should leave directly, now that missed the best talk already ;-) | 14:51 |
| fiona` | food time | 14:51 |
| MrTopf | for us a bit later | 14:51 |
| holizz | simonw's was the best | 14:51 |
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| holizz | irc while walking ftw | 14:52 |
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| Tv | where as irc while eating is harder -> suspend for lunch | 14:53 |
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| holizz | in the queue | 14:54 |
| holizz | looks like the lunch is better than pyconuk's | 14:54 |
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| ambv | boo, the wi-fi stability is kind of disappointing | 14:59 |
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| holizz | ambv: I know, right? It's been okay the past half hour, but it's not great. | 15:03 |
| ambv | holizz: that's not directed at anyone | 15:04 |
| ambv | it could have been better, but then again - we're using it now and it works | 15:04 |
| ambv | :) | 15:04 |
| holizz | mmm, cornish pasty | 15:08 |
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| CMooney | Fooooooooooooooooooooood | 15:29 |
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| dreimark | queue queue queue | 15:36 |
| CMooney | dreimark, tell me when it's gone and I'll head over :p | 15:38 |
| TheSheep | it looped | 15:39 |
| TheSheep | it will never end | 15:39 |
| CMooney | Well the food looks half-decent, John made a lot of effort to get those pasties in. | 15:41 |
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| holizz | CMooney: They were good pasties. | 15:42 |
| holizz | It's good to educate all the foreign deligates about our quaint British ways. | 15:42 |
| SafPlusPlus | Pasties were indeed brilliant, perhaps I should change careers and become a tinminer... :) | 15:43 |
| CMooney | I'll look forward to them then! | 15:43 |
| CMooney | Better than a geek-unfriendly finger buffer? | 15:43 |
| CMooney | *buffet | 15:43 |
| CMooney | buffer probably *are* geek friendly | 15:43 |
| CMooney | Norwegians don't get black pudding, after explaining it to them last night. | 15:43 |
| CMooney | Hmm wonder if we have any this week.... | 15:43 |
| CMooney | SafPlusPlus, They still make them you know! | 15:44 |
| TheSheep | black pudding? | 15:47 |
| TheSheep | is it similar to czernina? | 15:48 |
| DuncF | mmm, black pudding, pref with oatmeal in it. | 15:48 |
| TheSheep | ah, no, it's kaszanka | 15:49 |
| CMooney | DuncF, That's new..... | 15:49 |
| DuncF | TheSheep: yep, that looks good | 15:49 |
| TheSheep | CMooney: you should try polish czernina one time :) | 15:49 |
| * DuncF looked it up on wikipedia | 15:49 | |
| CMooney | TheSheep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding | 15:49 |
| TheSheep | yes | 15:50 |
| DuncF | CMooney: http://www.clonakiltyblackpudding.ie/ | 15:50 |
| TheSheep | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czernina | 15:50 |
| CMooney | Soounds google. | 15:50 |
| CMooney | DuncF, .ie! Brilliant, wasn't sure if it was just an English thing, the token Welsh 17 year old had never heard of black pudding. | 15:50 |
| CMooney | Sounds *good | 15:51 |
| DuncF | nope, definitely not just an english thing. | 15:51 |
| DuncF | red pudding on the other hand, is something I've not found outside of Dundalk | 15:51 |
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| DuncF | though googling suggests I might not have looked hard enough | 15:52 |
| ianto | token? | 15:52 |
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| fiona | heh this tweet screen is cool | 15:57 |
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| SafPlusPlus | Tweet screen? Where's it at? | 16:05 |
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| mgedmin | adrian boult hall, left and back of the main screen | 16:06 |
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| SafPlusPlus | I'll go look at that in 20 min then... :) | 16:07 |
| holizz | Hello the Adrian Boult Hall. This seems to be where the action is. | 16:07 |
| SafPlusPlus | I imagine that that might encourage a lot of spam though... Like the IRC thingy at the Snake oil thing. | 16:07 |
| mgedmin | that's where the keynote is supposed to start in 20 minutes | 16:08 |
| SafPlusPlus | Indeed. | 16:08 |
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| mgedmin | network spotty here too :/ | 16:14 |
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| holizz | The power sockets are very popular. | 16:25 |
| fiona | i haz | 16:25 |
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| chrisw_ | they always are? | 16:25 |
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| fiona | only one over here though, if someone wants to sit near me and put a four way in then feel free | 16:26 |
| fiona | that sounded wrong | 16:26 |
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| ChrisW | just me or is the wifi in the Adrian Boult Hall verrrrrrrrryy slow? | 16:26 |
| DuncF | i | 16:26 |
| ChrisW | indeed... | 16:27 |
| DuncF | t | 16:27 |
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| fiona | lol | 16:27 |
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| chrisw | *mcsigh* | 16:32 |
| chrisw | neeed moooore bandwidth | 16:33 |
| chrisw | dammit, how am I supposed to watch dvd quality porn with such a slow connection? ;-) | 16:34 |
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| chrisw | the tubes appear a little less clogged | 17:49 |
| Tv | everyone isn't in the same room | 17:50 |
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| Aquilae | I'll ask the Star city for games starting between 17:30 and 18:00. So who's coming? | 18:13 |
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| Aquilae | Oh, and details on bus stops of bus route 66 is highly appreciated, I can't seem to figure out where the stops are. | 18:14 |
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| Aquilae | Anybody at FilterPype? | 18:26 |
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| CMooney | Hmmm Lunch was good. | 18:30 |
| MS- | Interesting" to see stuff taken from the kamaelia website without attribution or notification and with misrepresentation. | 18:30 |
| CMooney | MS-, best speaking to them then, asking for attribution and better representation. If its from internets, who notifies anyone on the internets?? | 18:31 |
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| MS- | Well, it's more Rob Collins didn't know anything about Kamaelia 2 days ago, and now opened his presentation with 2 pages on it | 18:31 |
| MS- | Without knowing what it does AFAICT | 18:32 |
| MS- | *shrug* | 18:32 |
| MS- | I prefer to say "I have no clue" :) | 18:32 |
| CMooney | lol. Ah ignorance is fun. | 18:33 |
| MS- | Not a biggy by any stretch :) | 18:34 |
| CMooney | True. | 18:34 |
| MS- | I'm curious to see if there's improvements over what we've done in what they've done tbh | 18:36 |
| MS- | If they've built something better, we all win :) | 18:37 |
| CMooney | True. | 18:37 |
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| ntmartin | Hello | 19:01 |
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| Tv | quiet in here | 19:46 |
| DuncF | ssshhh | 19:46 |
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| MrWu | :) | 19:46 |
| Tv | hotpy talk is fairly interesting, not sure if there's reality behind the story | 19:47 |
| MrWu | dunno about the rest of you, but I'm quite sleepy | 19:47 |
| MrWu | the pyjamas + django is very interesting | 19:47 |
| Tv | i'm living 8 timezones east from usual, but surprisingly not all that jetlaggy | 19:47 |
| Tv | i expect it to hit just before my talk on thursday | 19:47 |
| MrWu | :) | 19:47 |
| MrWu | which one? | 19:47 |
| Tv | pythonic filesystem api | 19:48 |
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| MrWu | one of my selected ones | 19:48 |
| MrWu | :) | 19:48 |
| Tv | yay | 19:48 |
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| TheSheep | oh my god, it's full of files? | 19:52 |
| MrWu | TheSheep: ? | 19:52 |
| TheSheep | MrWu: there was a lightning talk last year on ep about it | 19:52 |
| TheSheep | making a better api for files | 19:52 |
| Tv | TheSheep: lightning? it was a long talk | 19:53 |
| TheSheep | Tv: was it? | 19:53 |
| Tv | http://eagain.net/blog/ | 19:53 |
| TheSheep | Tv: sorry then | 19:53 |
| TheSheep | I must have mixed it up with some lightning talk later | 19:53 |
| Tv | we had a talk, an open space and a sprint | 19:53 |
| Tv | this year, talk & sprint | 19:54 |
| TheSheep | nice | 19:54 |
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| nick_fn_tablet | Still prefer PyParsing to PLY. Never used PLY though. | 20:23 |
| chrisw | where/when are people eating tonight? | 20:24 |
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| FND | nick_fn_tablet: what do you use it for | 20:25 |
| nick_fn_tablet | 11 people going to the veggie Warehouse cafe | 20:25 |
| Tv | pyparsing is pretty darn neat in a way anything inspired by limitations of C probably won't ever be | 20:25 |
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| FND | I wanna try it, but short of creating Yet Another Wikitext Parser, I got no proper idea | 20:26 |
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| nick_fn_tablet | FND, you know, I don't remember . Was a while ago | 20:26 |
| nick_fn_tablet | ah yes... As a search expression parser | 20:26 |
| FND | ah interesting | 20:27 |
| Tv | one thing i want to have at some point is an independent reimplementation of restructuredtext parsing | 20:27 |
| Tv | because the current docutils one is a mess :( | 20:27 |
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| nick_fn_tablet | I need a new Textile parser | 20:27 |
| holdenweb | Hi guys. Have they put the lightning talk schedule up yet? Is it on the web? | 20:28 |
| nick_fn_tablet | We use textile for our wiki, but now need to extend it | 20:28 |
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| MrMeanie | hey mick | 20:35 |
| SafPlusPlus | Wee, pictures are showing up at flickr... but not mine though... :( | 20:35 |
| micktwomey | hi MrMeanie | 20:36 |
| MrMeanie | mick, what talk are you in? | 20:36 |
| micktwomey | Couchdb | 20:36 |
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| micktwomey | not sure I'll last though, likely to perspire then expire :) | 20:37 |
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| MrMeanie | mick, heh | 20:38 |
| MrMeanie | :) | 20:38 |
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| Mez | anyone still at the conservatoire? | 21:44 |
| Tv | probably someone still trapped in the maze of corridors, all very different | 21:44 |
| Mez | I need someone who's there to go do something for me. | 21:45 |
| Tv | hah, good luck | 21:45 |
| Mez | I think I've left my keys there in the crew room, but not sure. | 21:45 |
| Mez | I'm pretty fucked if they're lost! | 21:45 |
| Tv | sounds like you're walking there, next ;) | 21:46 |
| Mez | Hmm? nah ... I can get back to the venue, just whether anyone will still be there. | 21:46 |
| Mez | LarstiQ: ? ianto ? | 21:46 |
| Mez | zeth: ? | 21:46 |
| Mez | xorAxAx: ? | 21:46 |
| Mez | ANYONE?? | 21:47 |
| Mez | ah, wait, I just found them buried in the bottom of my bag! | 21:48 |
| Mez | yay | 21:48 |
| Mez | Tv: which hotel are you in ? | 21:49 |
| Tv | Mez: nitenite | 21:49 |
| Tv | gotta work on my talk for thursday | 21:49 |
| Tv | i will emerge from my cave only for food | 21:49 |
| Mez | ah, fair enough | 21:51 |
| Mez | though food does sound like a good idea. | 21:51 |
| Tv | yeah i'm thinking of checking out that pizza place at western end of The Mailbox | 21:52 |
| Tv | because it's close by | 21:52 |
| Mez | Lol - I'm thinking of just sleeping... | 21:53 |
| Mez | but I guess I *should* goto the social... | 21:53 |
| Mez | maybe. | 21:53 |
| Mez | Tired from working my ass off all day though | 21:53 |
| Mez | I have a bunkbed in my room though - how cool is that ? | 21:55 |
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| Mez | evening holdenweb_ | 21:57 |
| Mez | Tv: what's the pizza place near the mailbox called? | 21:58 |
| Tv | don't remember | 21:58 |
| Tv | it's by the canal | 21:58 |
| Mez | Lol - very useful. :D | 21:58 |
| Tv | walk out the west end of the mailbox, look down by the canal | 21:59 |
| Tv | *shrug* | 21:59 |
| * Mez shrugs too | 21:59 | |
| Tv | ooh thai place called Kinnaree there too | 22:00 |
| * Mez shrugs | 22:00 | |
| Mez | I think I'll just go for a wander | 22:00 |
| Tv | a bit fancier than i really like, but whatever.. i like hole-in-the-wall thai ;) | 22:02 |
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| ianto | Mez: J00 pinged me! | 22:33 |
| matti | ;] | 22:37 |
| matti | *smile* | 22:37 |
| LarstiQ | Mez: I wasn't, but I see you got out of the scramble :) | 22:59 |
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| matti | How do we organise GPG signing party? | 23:05 |
| LarstiQ | matti: the programme mentions "informal", but also that there would be an explanation | 23:05 |
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| Mez | people' we're downstairs in rhe aussie bar | 23:08 |
| Mez | and i can't type well on my phone | 23:08 |
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| matti | I am heading to the Pramier's Inn bar for a cup of coffee. | 23:19 |
| matti | Anyone care to join? | 23:19 |
| matti | There is like gazillion C in my room. | 23:20 |
| LarstiQ | matti: no, but you're welcome to come hang at the nitenite terrace :) | 23:20 |
| matti | 29.5 | 23:20 |
| matti | LarstiQ: Where is that? | 23:20 |
| LarstiQ | matti: pretty close, next to the axis building | 23:21 |
| * LarstiQ sees a sleeping moon premier inn logo from the terrace | 23:22 | |
| matti | I am clueless. | 23:23 |
| matti | How far away is that place? | 23:23 |
| LarstiQ | :) | 23:23 |
| matti | LarstiQ: My brain is melting... | 23:23 |
| matti | ;p | 23:23 |
| LarstiQ | matti: out the gate, down the street, I'd say 200 meters? | 23:23 |
| matti | Oh. | 23:24 |
| LarstiQ | unless I'm looking at the wrong premier inn | 23:24 |
| matti | This thing on the right. | 23:24 |
| LarstiQ | yeah | 23:24 |
| matti | We you move towards City Centre? | 23:24 |
| matti | OK | 23:24 |
| matti | I shall arrive. | 23:24 |
| LarstiQ | but not towards broad street, away from it down the street | 23:24 |
| * MetalJoe is sat in his hotel room relaxing | 23:28 | |
| MetalJoe | Any of the MoinMoin guys reading the channel at the moment? :-) | 23:29 |
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