IRC log of #meego for Saturday, 2011-05-21

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Gaborhi00:27
Gaborcan u tell me if it is possible to install 1.2 to lenovo x200?00:28
CosmoHillMeeGoBot: supported processors?00:28
MeeGoBotCosmoHill: Supported Processors are http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors00:28
Gaboryy00:28
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mikhaso/00:29
Gaborand does it automatically recognize my dualboot grub system?00:29
gabrbeddGabor: No.00:29
Gaboroh00:30
gabrbeddGabor: I think it sort of detects the other OS... but installs extlinux in the MBR.00:30
Gaborokey00:30
Gaborso that means that it'll use its own bootloader?00:31
gabrbeddextlinux is able to load (either directly or chainload) your other OS.00:31
Gaborthat will recognize both my ubu, and win7 also?00:31
gabrbeddOr you can go back and re-install grub to the MBR and set it up to load MeeGo.00:31
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gabrbeddcheck the wiki... I'm sure somebody's written something about it... somewhere.00:31
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Gaborokey00:32
Gaborthank u00:32
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jordsIs there a description of what hardware each of the images is for somewhere? I'm trying to find the best image for a i5 ULV tablet ( asus ep121{)00:45
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gabrbeddjords: probably a pineview image will work.00:48
gabrbedderrr... pinetrail.00:48
jords:)00:48
jordsYeah technically any x86 should run i guess and with this much cpu power compared to an atom should be smooth... do you know what the mflt and mrst images are for?00:49
gabrbeddjords: fwiw pineview and pinetrail are sort of the same thing.  just that pineview is specifically talking about either the graphiics on the atom chip, or possibly the atom chip itself.  (I don't remember)00:50
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CosmoHillgabrbedd: pinefresh00:50
gabrbeddmrst == moorestown.  I doubt that'll work.00:50
gabrbeddi dunno about mflt.00:50
jordsAh yeah just wondered. I'll try the pinetrail then - hope the graphics works00:50
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gabrbeddCosmoHill: Pinesol00:50
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jordsthis just has the built in pre-sandy bridge processor graphics00:51
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jordsso don't know what the linux driver situation for that is00:51
gabrbeddi-series have integrated graphics+cpu, like the atoms.  AFAIK the atoms and i-series have a very similar architecture.00:53
gabrbedd...but I'm talking out of turn when it comes to architecture.  :-)00:54
jordsok... well worth a try then :)00:54
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TheXceptionw00t_: did you solve your problems with "Warning: QEglContext::swapBuffers(): Bad surface (0x300D)" you had some time ago?01:21
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Alison_Chaikengdgt opines on M*s**t possibly buying N***a: http://gdgt.com/discuss/why-would-microsoft-buy-nokia-dg301:50
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thiagowhat/who is gdgt?01:54
Stskeeps|holidaylike a more tight engadget?01:55
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thiagoI don't think it makes sense for MS to buy Nokia01:56
thiagobuy a stake so they get a seat at the board of directors, on the other hand...01:57
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TheXceptionhm don't know what i did in the last seconds but the gui stopped rendering black boxes and the gui elements appeared on a gma500 device01:59
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TheXceptionanyone else around working with a gma500 and trying meego?02:08
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Alison_Chaikengdgt is a newer blog started by the guys who founded Engadget and then sold it to AOL.02:18
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sivangre all03:38
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nasaAnyone home?04:14
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Stskeeps|holidaymm?04:15
Stskeeps|holidaywell, not exactly -home-..04:16
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veri'm at my home office..04:16
nasahome is where the heart is...  Or so I've heard.04:17
verwell, it's where i keep my junk at least.04:18
berndhsi moved too many times, I have no home04:18
* nasa knows how that is04:18
verhow about: home is where your phone charger is.04:18
nasamy car?04:19
nasaSo, have people been trying out 1.2?04:19
berndhsyes a little04:20
berndhsit doesnt like my installed apps04:20
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berndhssomething wrong in the .desktop files maybe, don't know yet04:21
berndhsconnman is still ignoring ipv604:21
veri couldn't get it to boot on anything i own04:21
nasaI've been trying out ivi04:21
vernasa, how is it?04:22
nasaI like the interface, much better than before04:22
veralso, on what?04:22
nasaI actually got it running on mini-itx box (my actual car pc)04:22
ververy cool04:23
verdid you use a build or did you compile it yourself?04:23
nasait doens't actually fit the *supported* platforms, but a little work and it on04:23
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nasaBut, it does have some real quirky things with it...04:24
versuspending? :)04:24
nasaLike it suspends the monitor after a few moments of inactivity -- which makes sense for a phone, not so much for a car04:24
verhehe yeah04:25
nasaAnd I can't find any settings to stop that.04:25
berndhs saw some quirky suspend behaviour on  netbook too04:25
verespecially if you're driving at night and blindly whacking your fingers against the dash to change the track "No Gaga, noooo!"04:25
akkThere's a way to make it suspend?04:25
nasalol04:25
verberndhs, i couldn't get it to resume after suspend.04:25
verit resumed, suspended, resumed, suspended.04:26
berndhsI saw it starting to dim the screen, then hit a bung of keys, but was too late04:26
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berndhss/bung/bunch/04:26
infobotberndhs meant: I saw it starting to dim the screen, then hit a bunch of keys, but was too late04:26
nasaI believe there are bug reports for these suspend issues04:26
berndhsI've seen that is other screensavers, its like its teasing you04:26
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akkIs there a way to suspend from the tablet UX? Or do you need a terminal and a keyboard attached?04:26
berndhsgives you 15 secs of misery wathcing it go away04:27
nasa17393 for example04:27
versuspending is an implementation nightmare on linux-based stuff.04:27
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veronly a handful of desktop distros have working suspend/hibernate and of those it wouldn't surprise me if they rely on uswsusp-style software hibernation rather than ACPI S*.04:28
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verif most of them rely*04:28
nasaAnd know you are not alone:  http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=358&highlight=power&page=104:28
akkmost of the desktop distros do ACPI S, at least on common intel hardware04:28
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* nasa notes the suspend issue is the 2nd biggest pain with trying the 1.2 IVI04:29
sergiusensberndhs: https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1493004:30
MeeGoBotBug 14930 nor, High, 1.2, chengwei.yang, NEW, valid desktop (.desktop) files not being shown, missing trailing semicolon04:30
sergiusensthat could be a reason why your apps aren't showing up04:31
berndhsthanks, I'll check it out04:31
berndhsthese worked ok in 1.1.9904:33
nasaver: I used a build04:33
RhymeswAI have the new (5/19)  1.2 image on a asus netbook, works happily, np with suspend04:34
nasaThere's always got to be one :}04:34
nasaIs it common amongst all the verticals that only music that is under /home/meego/music is used by the music app?04:35
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lbto/ from SF05:57
Ronksu_o/05:58
* lbt is now hunting for an HP psu06:00
lbtmine just died ;(06:00
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Stskeeps|holidayo/ lbt06:53
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lbthey Stskeeps|holiday07:20
lbtjust ate07:20
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akkgrr, bad time to ask, I know ... but does anyone know if there's something like a reset button on an ExoPC?07:23
akkI installed the latest 1.2.0, and it just locked up, and pressing the power button isn't power cycling like it did with the old version.07:23
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lbtpress and hold akk07:27
lbtlike ordinary PC07:27
akkI found the little paperclip button, but I've tried pressing and holding there, pressing and holding the power button, and both at the same time ... no luck.07:27
akkAny tips?07:27
akkpress and hold what?07:27
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akkIt shouldn't be a power problem -- it's fully charged and still plugged in.07:30
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Stskeeps|holidaylbt, cool07:32
Stskeeps|holidaywe're heading for sleep, came back from santa cruz07:32
lbt*nod* us too07:33
lbtv. tired :)07:33
lbtbit miffed the laptop power supply looks dead07:33
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Stskeeps|holiday110v vs 220v issue?07:34
lbtno... broken core by the plug I think07:34
Stskeeps|holidayah07:34
lbtcable wiggle works a little bit07:34
lbtnow googling "buy power in SF"07:35
akkwonder if Fry's is still open? You could stop on the way.07:36
akknope, 9pm07:36
lbtakk: do you know sf?07:36
lbtI'm at the Hyatt now07:36
akkno, I'm in san jose07:36
lbtso need to get a psu07:37
akkthere's a mall way over on the west side of SF, but I'm sure there's something a lot closer, I just don't know where07:37
lbtOK .. I'll google a bit07:38
Stskeeps|holidaylbt: plenty of shops on market st as well07:42
ieatlintlbt: i know sf07:51
ieatlintwhat are you looking for?07:52
lbtieatlint: hey07:53
lbtI have a compaq 6910p laptop .... the power adaptor cable seems broken07:53
lbtso I need a new adaptor07:53
lbtfound http://www.centralcomputers.com/index.htm07:54
lbtquite close07:54
ieatlintyeah, centralcomputer is the only computer place in the city07:54
ieatlintwe then have "best buy", which would be like dixons07:54
ieatlintwhich may or may not have an adapter07:54
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lbtyeah ... these things are so model specific07:55
ieatlintif neither of those work, you're in trouble… there's the infamous frys electronics, but they're not close to sf07:55
lbtI have a dell ... same plug/polarity but 19.5 not 18.5 ... doesn't work07:55
ieatlintyeah, central computer likely sells a "generic" laptop adapter that will have a bag of 10+ tips for the adapter that may work for you07:56
ieatlintyou may be in trouble… can probably find a way to order one, but you likely won't get it until tuesday morning07:56
lbtfingers crossed :)07:56
ieatlintyeah, take a walk over to central computer07:57
lbtmay buy miniscrewdriver ... transplant hdd07:57
lbtgah.... opening hours... sat 10:30 am07:58
ieatlinthttp://www.centralcomputers.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=76203&czuid=1305953410421 ?07:58
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lbt\o/07:59
ieatlintnote the "call for in-store availability"08:00
ieatlintand the online listings can differ from in-store — they may have another similar item, etc… you'll likely need to go down there08:00
akkIf they don't have it at that store they might be able to get it -- there are several Central stores around.08:00
ieatlintyep08:00
ieatlintand frys failing that08:00
akkyeah, you can always spend a couple hours making a Fry's run08:01
lbtakk ... in a taxi ... :(08:01
lbtieatlint: yes, saw that ... I'll call in the morning08:01
Stskeeps|holiday08:01
lbtthe OBS tutorial in the pm may be a little more ad-hoc than previously planned .... :)08:02
akkyeah, unfortunately I don't think any Frys are close to caltrain or bart.08:02
Stskeeps|holidayexpressive dance08:02
lbtbut... Denise managed to get the wire wiggled the right way long enough to boot and copy presentations onto a usb stick... so may be OK for that08:03
akkMaybe you can borrow a compaq power supply during the talk?08:03
ieatlintlooks like best buy might have one if central computer doesn't08:03
ieatlintthere are 2 best buys in san francisco, both are reachable by taxi or public transit08:03
* lbt takes Stskeeps|holiday's drink away08:04
lbtieatlint: are you around in the am?08:04
lbtI'll call central when they open08:04
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lbtand if it's a no-no I may need some advice on next steps08:04
ieatlinti'll be at the hotel tomorrow before 9am08:04
ieatlinti'm helping to give the intro to qt sessions08:04
lbtOK - I'm sure we'll bump into each other then08:05
ieatlinti'm currently perhaps in view of your hotel room, if you can see treasure island08:05
lbton 17th floor ... can see a fair way08:05
ieatlintif you see a bridge, that's the bay bridge, and i'm on the island it goes to08:06
lbtah, we look the other way... shame ... I'd have taken a flash photo ;)08:07
ieatlinthaha08:07
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zehjotkahhi08:07
lbt"somewhere in this photo is ieatlint"08:07
ieatlintindeed08:07
ieatlinti'm out where you can get some of the best views of the city08:07
lbtI can imagine... the view from here is nice and it's right in it08:08
wmarone__good to hear everyone is arriving08:09
wmarone__or has08:09
wmarone__heh08:09
ieatlintnot the best pic, but here's one from where i am http://www.rickbucich.com/wp-content/original/2011_03/San-Francisco-Skyline-16.jpg08:09
akknice!08:10
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Jay_BEEhi, is anyone successfully using meego sdk on ubuntu 64-bit?08:31
* Jay_BEE heads to ubuntu site to grab 32-bit edition...08:32
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alteregoJay_BEE: I use 64bit and SDK, but my setup is somewhat customised.08:55
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alteregoI pretty much manually installed everything from git08:56
thiagoStskeeps|holiday: are you up?08:56
alteregoI doubt he's up if he's in the US already ;)08:57
alteregoThough me may not be asleep yet I guess.08:58
thiagoit's only 23:00 in California now08:59
alteregoHe's also with his Wife I think :P08:59
Jay_BEEalterego: interesting... attempting to install the meego sdk under 64-bit ubuntu 10.10 resulted in the error "No such file or directory"09:00
alteregoJay_BEE: chmod +x your download file09:00
alteregoOh wait09:00
alteregoYou need to install ia32 lib support.09:00
Jay_BEEdid that first09:00
Jay_BEEoh09:00
Jay_BEEhmm09:00
alteregosudo apt-get install ia32-libs09:00
Jay_BEEawesome... thx09:00
Jay_BEEtrying that now09:00
alteregonp09:01
alteregoI'm cutting this pretty close, I need to get a coach in under an hour09:01
Jay_BEEalterego: that did it! install meego sdk now! w00t09:02
alterego:)09:02
alteregoHave fun :)09:03
zehjotkahhe is with his wife here in SF and he was up about 2 hours ago (Carsten (stskeeps))09:03
alteregoCool09:03
alteregozehjotkah: feeding the tmo users I see :P09:03
zehjotkahsure, that what I do best ;) joking...09:04
alteregoIt's unbelievable that, that group of people were only a week ago knocking Nokia and saying they'd never buy a Nokia again ..09:04
alteregoNow look at them.09:04
alteregoLooking at an advert frame by frame.09:04
Jay_BEELOL09:04
Jay_BEEso true09:05
alteregoAnyway, I've almost finished downloading the 1080p version so I can watch it on loop on the 11hr journey.09:05
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Jay_BEEheh.09:06
* alterego chuckles09:06
alteregoI have to admit, it looks really pretty, I kinda get the same sort of view that I had when the N810 was released.09:06
alteregoWhich was pretty sexy09:07
alteregoBut, I don't see much point in getting hopes up, we'll see what happens.09:07
Jay_BEEagree.09:07
alteregoAs it stands, with the rumoured specs, I'd probably still get one as a healthy upgrade to the N900.09:07
alteregoI just hope it has HDMI and a compass.09:08
ieatlinti'm hoping for nfc09:08
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zehjotkahokay, I'm going to sleep09:08
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zehjotkahstill exhausted because of the flight09:09
alteregog'night zehjotkah see you tomorrow ;)09:09
alteregoOr today for me09:09
zehjotkah:)09:09
alteregoBut whatever :D09:09
zehjotkah:D09:09
Jay_BEEi'll be there tomorrow09:09
alteregoI lose just under 3 hours :D09:09
ieatlintall i can say, is qt-mobility 1.2 has a lot of stuff targeted towards harmattan09:09
zehjotkahyeah, I'm confused as wll with the time^^09:09
ieatlintand if this is the only harmattan device…09:09
zehjotkahalterege: where do you come from09:09
alteregoieatlint: I should hope so :)09:09
zehjotkah?09:09
alteregozehjotkah: UK09:09
zehjotkahhave we met before?09:10
ieatlinti might drop by the hyatt bar tomorrow evening09:10
ieatlintsee peoples, have a drink09:10
zehjotkahI'll be there too09:10
alteregozehjotkah: Unlikely, though anything is possible.09:10
zehjotkah:D09:10
alteregoI've never been to a conference/summit before.09:10
zehjotkahokay09:10
zehjotkahthen we'll meet later09:10
zehjotkahbye09:10
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wazdAnybody alive in sf? :)09:11
Jay_BEEthis will be my first meego conference... i was CES this past January with a dead N900, luckily one of the guys from Nokia took pity on me and helped me rescue it09:11
alterego:)09:11
ieatlintwazd: i am09:11
ieatlintthe rapture doesn't hit until later09:11
Jay_BEE...09:11
wazdI've just parked myself and want to drink LD09:11
wazd17 hours of airports and planes09:12
ieatlinthrm, i'm arguing with myself if i should head over for a drink09:12
wazdkearny st 93509:13
veri'm building wayland from source.  i'm drinkin.09:13
ieatlintyeah, too far for me right now09:14
* thiago needs a new N900 battery09:15
thiagodoes anyone have a BL-5J in good condition they want to donate?09:16
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ieatlintthiago: i actually have a spare… i may be willing to part with it09:16
thiagothen again, I can probably order it internally...09:19
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Evanescencechinese here ?14:10
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* CosmoHill wants a Lexus IS200 now >.<14:47
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gabrbeddMorning everyone!  How's the jetlag coming?17:32
* Ronksu laughs at jetlag17:32
Ronksuwoke up at 0600 without alarm (that would usually be required) :)17:32
gabrbeddRonksu: yep... that's probably what will happen for me, too.17:34
gabrbedd:-)17:34
* gabrbedd will be there tomorrow17:34
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Ronksugabrbedd: I'm sure jetlag will have its revenge still :)17:34
gabrbeddRonksu: did you come from across the pond?  Or just the east coast?17:35
Ronksugabrbedd: "accross the pond" :D.. came from Finland yes :)17:36
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gabrbeddRonksu: Maybe you'll get lucky.  :-)17:37
Ronksuwe shall see. Now I need to go find something to eat.17:40
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* lbt groans17:57
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phaeronlbt: hey18:03
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gabrbeddlbt: too much bacon... or too much tango?18:07
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* Stskeeps|holiday yawns18:08
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bkalinga1Hi I tried graphical installer for meego 1.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 but got some errors during the installation18:22
Stskeeps|holidaysdk, you mean18:23
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lbt_2hey phaeron18:25
lbt_2gabrbedd: too much airplane :)18:25
* lbt_2 about to go on a bacon hunt....18:25
gabrbedd:-)18:25
lbt_2anyone else going for bfast? Stskeeps|holiday X-Fade DawnFoster gabrbedd ?18:25
bkalinga1Stskeeps|holiday:  yes meego sdk 1.218:26
Stskeeps|holidaybeen there done that18:26
lbt_2pfft18:26
lbt_2what's good?18:26
* gabrbedd already had breakfast at his home in Texas18:26
DawnFosternot really a breakfast person :)18:26
Stskeeps|holidaywe went for the hostel bfast. toast, jam, coffee ;)18:26
gabrbeddno bacon, tho18:26
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lbt_2gabrbedd: ah, nm18:27
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bkalinga1http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=336618:29
bkalinga1Is there anyone who got the same problem while installing meego1.2 on Ubuntu?18:30
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bkalinga1*ubuntu 11.0418:31
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bkalinga1hi some expert around there...Can I install meego1.2 netbook in my laptop?18:48
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bkalinga1along side Ubuntu and Win XP18:48
gabrbeddbkalinga1: Yes you can, but you pretty much need to know what you're doing.18:52
gabrbeddbkalinga: The trick is that MeeGo will write extlinux to your MBR and use that as a boot loader.18:52
gabrbeddbkalinga1: if you want to use grub... you'll have to go back and re-set-up grub somehow.18:53
gabrbeddbkalinga1: otherwise, you'll need to set up all your OS's with extlinux.  The installer does an OK (not great) job of detecting your other OS.18:53
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gabrbeddbkalinga1: Also I'm not confident in meego's partition resizing -- and it WILL NOT resize an ntfs partition.  It's very easy to confuse the partitioner in the meego installer.18:54
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bkalinga1ok18:57
bkalinga1but when i run the graphical installer for meego 1.2sdk on ubuntu 11.04 i am getting some error18:58
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newbie007does anyone know the latest status of getting meego on the nookcolor? Can I help?18:58
bkalinga1 http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=336618:59
gabrbeddbkalinga1: Are you talking about installing MeeGo, or the MeeGo SDK.  The two are different.19:01
bkalinga1yes i understand....19:01
gabrbeddbkalinga1: Also, it may be a few days before someone can help with installing the 1.2 SDK + Ubuntu 11.04.19:01
gabrbeddbkalinga1: Most everyone who knows anything is either in San Francisco at the meego conference or enjoying their saturday.19:01
bkalinga1please look at the thread and i am facing same problem19:01
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gabrbeddbkalinga1: I do not use the "graphical SDK".  I'm sorry, I can't help you.19:02
bkalinga1when using the graphical installer on ubutnu 11.0419:02
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bkalinga1how did u upgrade to 1.2?19:02
bkalinga1http://developer.meego.com/guides/getting-started/getting-started-meego-v1.2-sdk-linux19:04
bkalinga1i am following steps described in above wiki link19:04
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gabrbeddupgrade to 1.2 SDK or a 1.2 MeeGo install?  I don't think you can "upgrade" the SDK.19:05
Reduced_Oxygenanyone know if meego works on the imate jasjam?19:05
Reduced_Oxygenor dopod19:05
Matan[M]kurwaaaaa koniec świata!19:05
Reduced_Oxygenanybody?19:07
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jefferaihey, when I install the SDK, I see fonts like this: http://www.fotoshack.us/foto.php?id=46057fonts.png19:34
jefferaianyone know what's wrong?19:34
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lbt_2Stskeeps|holiday: ping19:40
Jay_BEEnice fonts...19:40
ieatlintJay_BEE: i'd be the guy in the room up front with the usb keys19:41
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Jay_BEEieatlint: i'm sitting next to you in the first row who has one of your usb keys :)19:42
ieatlinthaha, hi19:43
* TSCHAKeee just posted the following status to Facebook: so uh, how many of you have been raptured up? ... none of you? oh well. *points-and-laughs* HAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA19:43
* Jay_BEE waves19:43
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ieatlintTSCHAKeee: doesn't happen in san francisco until 6pm19:43
ieatlinti'm confident i will get raptured still19:43
* Jay_BEE nods in agreement at ieatlint hehe19:44
* lbt_2 had some rapture earlier...19:44
Jay_BEEi'd rather install the MeeGo SDK19:44
gabrbeddlbt_2: TMI19:44
Jay_BEEheh19:44
ieatlinti tried to get the meegosdk, but there's no offline version of the 1.2 release i could find to download19:44
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Jay_BEEieatlint: ok19:45
lbt_2gabrbedd: it was good coffee.... ;P19:45
* gabrbedd has never had coffee *that* good19:45
ieatlintblue bottle?19:45
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* TSCHAKeee roasts his own coffee, so he does have coffee *that* good19:46
TSCHAKeee;)19:46
ieatlintbtw, those in san francsico looking for something to do this morning/today, there's a farmers market across the street at the ferry building that will also have a lot of good ready to eat food and such19:47
ieatlintgoes to about 2pm19:47
TSCHAKeeeat which point they close to get ready for the rapture19:47
TSCHAKeee*ba-dum-ching*19:47
TSCHAKeeeok ok, joke beaten to death19:48
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TSCHAKeee;)19:48
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Jay_BEEheh19:52
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jefferaiieatlint: Jay_BEE: I'm in the third row19:55
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jefferaiieatlint: blue bottle is across the embarcadero (street) from the hotel19:56
jefferaiin the wharf building19:56
jefferaiit's very good19:56
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GAN900TSCHAKeee, there's still time!19:57
ieatlintjefferai: i'm familiar with it :)19:57
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* Jay_BEE is not hip to the blue bottle :(19:58
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ieatlintit's a local coffee shop that has a few locations in the city… they're widely considered to be one of the best cups of coffee you can find19:58
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Jay_BEEieatlint: nice, i'll keep that in mind... i had went to starbucks earlier :(19:59
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jefferaiI really wish that I could figure out this font thing, it amkes  the manager totally unusable20:00
jefferaialso I wish that the guy in front would stop saying Q.T.20:00
jefferaihe should know better20:00
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jefferaiand he already explained to everyone that it's Qt, not Q.T.20:00
jefferaiso why does he persist in calling it the wrong thing20:00
jefferaiyou ICS people...20:00
Jay_BEEhehe20:00
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ieatlintjefferai: because when we say "cute", it makes us sound like 12 year old girls20:01
ieatlint"i program in cute, tee hee"20:01
GAN900ieatlint, on the subject of good local places, Recommend any good restaurants around the hotel (or not, since the financial district is so expensive) that take reservations?20:01
jefferaiieatlint: so does "MeeGo"20:01
jefferaibut you don't see people calling it "Boomshakalaka"20:01
Jay_BEElol20:01
ieatlintjefferai: not as bad, and we can't find another way to pronounce that one ;)20:01
ieatlintGAN900: i'm afraid i don't know that many in this area… the area is mostly dead after business hours20:02
jefferaiI had some guy from ICS, let's call him John, tell me "I prefer calling it Q.T."20:02
jefferaiWell, I prefer calling you Charlie, but your name is John, isn't it20:02
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ieatlintthis is a business district, even the bars are a bit mediocre20:02
jefferaiand Q.T. means QuickTime20:02
gabrbeddQ: what GUI framework do you use in?  A: cute20:02
* GAN900 loves flying out of an airport with free WiFi.20:02
gabrbeddQ: huh?  A: Q.T.20:02
gabrbeddQ: oh.20:02
GAN900ieatlint, yeah, friend was recommending stuff down south aways, but I'm not sure I want to haul a bunch of people a long way on BART20:02
ieatlintGAN900: yelp.com is the best source for restaurant recommendations20:03
ieatlintand it will tell you which restaurants take reservations20:03
jefferaigaryou program in QuickTime?20:03
jefferaigabrbedd: ^20:03
GAN900I ate at the Stinking Rose last time I was in SF.20:03
GAN900Was good, but a bit touristy.20:03
gabrbeddjefferai: just saying.20:03
ieatlintjefferai: you're just being pedantic… perhaps i should call it qasar technology20:03
jefferaigabrbedd: if people like you would start calling it the proper name, people would stop getting confused20:03
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jefferaiieatlint: why would you do that?20:04
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jefferaiit was named after Xt, not Quasar Technology20:04
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ieatlintrenamed from what i understand20:04
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gabrbeddjefferai: If the letters "Qt" was actually pronounced "cute" then there be no problem.20:04
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ieatlintanyway, in the US, we will switch between "cute" and saying the letters… it's not intuitive to say "cute", and it can be professionally awkward at times20:05
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jefferaiit just makes you guys sound like you don't know the product you're selling20:06
jefferaiyou guys are a Qt shop that calls it by the wrong name20:06
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TSCHAKeeehonestly?20:06
Jay_BEEfwiw, he did just say 'cute'20:06
jefferaitalk about professionally awkward :-)20:06
TSCHAKeeeand i say this as affectionately as I possibly can20:06
gabrbeddI'm all for creative name/pronunciation things -- but "cute" just doesn't seem to be catching on in an internet community where the letters are primarily read rather than heard.20:06
TSCHAKeeeWHO GIVES A FUCK, YOU BUNCH OF PEDANTIC BASTARDS!20:07
TSCHAKeee:P20:07
GAN900Teehee20:07
Jay_BEEhahah20:07
gabrbeddReminds me of the movie "that thing you do" with the "oneders"20:07
ieatlintjefferai: eh, i can't really respond to that, as that's bordering me speaking for ics20:07
jefferaiTSCHAKeee: nobody really, it just looks unprofessional20:07
jefferaijust saying20:07
ieatlinti've made my point, and continued well past any meaningful discussion… indeed, enough20:08
jefferaiI think I just missed your point, is all20:08
jefferaibut, no problem :-)20:08
GAN900 /mute20:09
jefferaibtw, is the guy up there using 1.2 SDK?20:09
jefferaior 1.1.x?20:09
papulen i mount a pendrive using the command "mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /home/user/pendrive" I can write data to it only when I am root. what do I have to do to be able to write data to it as a normal user.20:09
Jay_BEE...20:09
ieatlintqt 1.1 with qtcreator 1.220:09
papuloops20:09
papulwrong channel20:09
ieatlinterr, qtcreator 2.220:09
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jefferaiah, ok20:10
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TSCHAKeeeis there a way to apply a blur shader to a composited window, so that it blurs the windows underneath?20:11
gabrbeddanybody know why the meego ux is always rotating whenever I switch to it?20:11
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lcukgabrbedd, using meego in orbit has that effect!20:26
lcukTSCHAKeee, a specific window or all windows?20:27
TSCHAKeeelcuk: either way.. basically, I am overlaying a transparent window over the top of another window (a media player, or the screen saver)20:27
TSCHAKeeelcuk: and i am looking for a way to blur the contents of what is below, no matter what it is.20:28
gabrbeddlcuk: orbit?20:28
lcukTSCHAKeee, the way screensavers used to do it, was at time screensaver opens it takes a snap and uses processed version of that20:28
TSCHAKeeemeh20:28
lcukbut if you want live updating background I guess more would be required20:28
TSCHAKeeeyes20:28
TSCHAKeeesigh, nobody ever has answers to my questions20:29
gabrbeddlcuk: you mean like the space shuttle?20:29
lcukgabrbedd, you might be, I am in bedroom after tiring wander round manchester20:29
TSCHAKeee:P20:29
lcukTSCHAKeee, they try to answer :P20:29
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gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: do you own/control the "contents below" that you're trying to blur?20:31
TSCHAKeeeno.20:32
TSCHAKeeeam I going to have to become a window manager?20:32
TSCHAKeeeour UI controls different programs depending on what needs to be done20:33
gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: you mean like... you have a small window for your app, and you want all other app windows to blur?20:33
TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: my app is full screen, and it resizes and stacks other apps, makes them fullscreen, and puts them underneath it20:33
TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: so in essence you see an overlaid transparent UI on top20:33
gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: would you settle for "dimmed out" instead of "blurred" ?20:34
TSCHAKeeeno.20:34
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TSCHAKeeethat's why I am wondering if i will have to become a window manager20:34
TSCHAKeeeand just make the damned windows textures.20:34
gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: yes, you will.20:35
TSCHAKeeefuck.20:35
gabrbeddSounds like you want compositing...  but then you want to add a filter after several of the windows are composited to make your blur effect.20:35
* TSCHAKeee wants to cry.20:35
TSCHAKeeeyes.20:35
gabrbeddThat sounds to me like you've got to be fiddling with the compositing stuff... which is typically handled by the WM.20:36
gabrbeddYou /might/ be able to do it without being the WM... but then you're essentially writing your own compositor.20:36
gabrbedde.g. people can take screen shots and do whatever they want with the images.20:37
TSCHAKeeeok.20:37
berndhsand you probably want to avoid running 2 of these concurrently20:37
TSCHAKeeei will figure this out20:37
TSCHAKeeebecause I have a specific look i want to be able to do20:37
gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: which WM are you currently using?20:38
TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: xfwm420:38
TSCHAKeeewith the compositor enabled.20:38
TSCHAKeeei really don't care what i use, as long as it works20:38
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gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: I'll bet you can patch an existing, compositing WM to insert your feature... and that the patch would not be very invasive.20:39
TSCHAKeee*nod* ok20:40
gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: something like setting a custom window flag on your foreground window "_TSCHAKeee_WM_BLURR_EVERYBODY_ELSE"20:40
TSCHAKeee*nod* makes sense20:40
TSCHAKeeei hope i can use GL shader to do this...20:40
gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: and when you see that flag, you make sure that window is on top and then blur all the windows below.20:40
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TSCHAKeeewould i use mutter..or... mcompositor or.. hmmm20:42
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gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: what UX are you running?  And are all your apps Qt-based?20:43
TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: no UX at present20:43
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TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: i'm doing everything on my own.20:43
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gabrbeddTSCHAKeee: I couldn't make mutter work with meego-ux-daemon, I dunno why.20:43
TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: the new orbiter app itself will be Qt20:43
TSCHAKeeegabrbedd: but the apps controlled come from all over the place20:44
gabrbeddmcompositor is pretty cool -- unless you're using non-Qt apps20:44
TSCHAKeeeXine, mplayer, mame, et.20:44
TSCHAKeeec.20:44
gabrbeddI think matchbox lacks compositing support -- but I might be wrong.20:44
TSCHAKeeethis leaves xfwm420:45
TSCHAKeeebut it uses just basic render20:45
gabrbeddAnd xfwm4 is stable as hell.20:45
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TSCHAKeeeand doing a blur in software20:45
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TSCHAKeee....not feasible.20:45
gabrbeddYou might also consider using clutter.20:46
gabrbedd(the upstream clutter, not meego's fork)20:46
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gabrbeddI think that's a compositing WM, and somebody's using it as The WM now (either GNOME or Unity or Ubuntu or All The Above)20:46
TSCHAKeeeok20:47
TSCHAKeeewe're building all our orbiter tech on Qt/QML20:48
TSCHAKeeebut i don't mind if the wm would be using clutter or something similar20:48
TSCHAKeeei'm not a purist, i just want to see if i can pull this off20:48
TSCHAKeeethanks20:48
gabrbeddhope it helps. :-)20:48
TSCHAKeeewe're gonna build the rest of orbiter20:49
TSCHAKeeeand THEN circle back to this20:49
TSCHAKeeeman this is gonna suck20:49
gabrbeddwow... the latest MeeGo UX is giving me a lot of trouble.  :-/20:53
* gabrbedd grumbles20:53
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sivangwho's here?21:07
GAN900Nobody!21:07
Jay_BEE...21:07
sivanghmm, timeless is still not here21:07
sivangGAN900: when is the Collabora reception?? :))21:08
sivanghrm21:08
sivangGAN900: confused you with Robin Burchell21:08
GAN900There's a Collabora reception?21:08
GAN900Clearly.21:08
sivang:)21:08
sivangGAN900: yes , the signs are there since last early am21:08
sivangI had trouble falling asleep...21:08
* GAN900 is getting closer to boarding.21:09
sivangmy jet lag won't go away21:09
sivangGAN900: in Heathrow?21:09
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GAN900TPA21:09
sivangTPA?21:09
GAN900Still not w00t. :P21:09
GAN900Tampa, FL21:09
GAN900Flying West is unpleasant.21:09
CosmoHillthat's where amierica is21:10
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GAN900I'm usually OK going East, but flying back West is murder. Flying back from BCN turned me into a zombie for days after.21:11
gabrbeddCosmoHill: score!21:12
timsamoffGAN900: Weird... I'm just the opposite. Thankfully, I'm in my own timezone this time.21:13
CosmoHillhey I just realised, the upgrade I have planed would make my desktop meego compatable21:14
GAN900timsamoff, well, usually I catch redeye flights to Europe, so.21:14
timsamoffThat's ok if you can actually get some sleep, though, I guess.21:14
GAN900Usually can manage.21:15
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Saviq_afkif anyone's interested - here's a google calendar of the SF schedule https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=rrsd00vnq7f5e3qpsjb8o1flho%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles21:45
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sofarlol nice21:47
Jay_BEESaviq: thx21:50
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smurfanybody here?22:40
dm8tbrno!22:40
smurfDamn! just my luck ;)22:40
berndhsthey're all in california preparing to ascend22:41
smurfDoes anyone here know whether it is possible to install Meego from a live flashdrive to another flashdrive?22:41
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jonnorsmurf: should be possible, Linux generally does not care what kind of device you install to.22:45
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jonnorA challenge is that Meego uses extlinux (which is not as good as grub when it comes to multi-device setups), and hardcodes device name instead of using UUID for the rootfs...22:46
smurfI'm considering it because I hope to be able to fix Broadcom WiFi support which apparently isn't possible on a live installlation. Anyone have experience with that particular method?22:46
jonnortias I'd say22:47
smurfI have to find/make an extra free flash medium. Will installation erase the destination drive or can it be added to a flash drive that still has files on it?22:49
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jonnorThe installation will typically erase the device, it depends on what you chose during install.22:57
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jonnorFor me the installed would barf if certain setups were already on the device (even if it was be to erased). In particular LVM caused problems22:59
smurfIs one of the options you can choose an installation on a partition without erasing it? Ehh... LVM?23:00
sofarpeople mentioning LVM and meego in one sentence need to go away :)23:00
berndhssmurf: the installer doesnt know how to wipe a partition with LVM on it23:00
sofarif you want broadcom wireless working you can switch to the Trunk kernel, which will support it23:01
sofar1.2 does not support it23:01
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smurfFrankly I don't understand why it hasn't been added. WiFi hardware support seems a very important feature to me. Where can I find that version with the Trunk kernel?23:03
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gabrbeddsmurf: The problem is broadcom's license for their closed-source drivers.23:04
sofarthe brcm module wasn't stable enough in 2.6.3723:04
sofaralso, broadcom waited way too long to open source it properly and release it in a usable form to the kernel23:04
gabrbeddsmurf: There a clause that says, paraphrased, if you redistribute it then you are liable for any patent infringement issues that may occur.23:04
smurfHaven't I read something about an open source version?23:05
gabrbeddsmurf: The one in 2.6.37 doesn't work.  I don't recall how things are with 2.6.38.23:06
sofargabrbedd: it works23:06
sofarhttp://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/i586/kernel-2.6.39~rc6-135.2.i586.rpm23:06
gabrbeddsofar: that's .39, isn't it?23:06
gabrbedd:-)23:06
sofarthat's a current 'trunk' kernel - trunk is 39 basically, yes23:06
gabrbeddsofar: so it works in .39, now?23:07
* gabrbedd likes.23:07
sofarit works on my lenovo s10/3t at work, yes23:07
sofarnot that I use it a lot23:07
sofarI'm mostly working over ethernet anyway23:07
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smurfAnd how do I replace the kernel in a live installation wth this kernel?23:10
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gabrbeddsofar: But do you recall the status of the .38 kernel?  (smurf is probably using one of the .38 `pinetrail` kernels)23:10
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gabrbeddsmurf: you have to remaster one using mic2.23:10
sofarno23:10
sofaryou can just install it23:10
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sofarzypper install foo.rpm23:10
smurfI'm using the 1.2 netbook live version.23:10
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sofarthat's all that is needed23:11
sofaror even use rpm23:11
sofarrpm -i foo.rpm23:11
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gabrbeddsofar: he's talking about remastering the .img -- not an installed MeeGo23:11
gabrbeddsmurf: right?23:11
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sofarif you're remastering images, can just download a new trunk image instead and get the systemd goodness23:11
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sofarhttp://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest/images/meego-netbook-ia32/23:13
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smurfgabrbedd: Right. I want to 'fix' the live version I made with the .img23:15
smurfSo I wonder hoe that live version can access the other kernel.23:16
gabrbeddsmurf: sofar is talking about how to fix it once you've already installed MeeGo... he's not talking about fixing a live .img file.23:17
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smurfBTW when I boot that live version I get the error "Unable to mount netbook-ia32-86_64-201105180936" but it then works normally.23:18
sofarlike I said, you can just download a kernel rpm and `zypper install` it23:18
gabrbeddsmurf: One option is to download the image that sofar said above ^^, which is the latest development version that has a .39 kernel.23:18
sofaras long as dependencies are met, zypper will install any rpm23:18
sofarjust download the kernel rpm I linked earlier23:19
sofarhttp://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/i586/kernel-2.6.39~rc6-135.2.i586.rpm23:19
gabrbeddsmurf: The other is to remaster an .img with MIC2 (which is how the images were made)23:19
sofaryou should even be able to do zypper install http:.......url/23:19
gabrbeddsmhar: And where did you get this 86_64 image from?23:20
sofarprobably rolled it himself :)23:20
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smurfsmhar: I downloaded it from here: http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/%23meego.2011-05-21.log.html23:23
smurfOops soory wrong link23:23
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smurfWrong copy/paste. From here: https://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-v1.2-netbooks23:23
sofarinteresting that something in it refers to 86_6423:24
sofaralmost worth filing a bugreport ;)23:24
smurfI have downloaded the kernel from within the live Meego. Will now try to get it installed in Terminal.....23:25
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gabrbeddsmurf: the message "unable to mount" is normal.  It shouldn't happen -- but it does, and won't cause you any problems.23:25
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smurfI need root privileges. adding sudo in front of the zypper command asks for password and 'meego' gives: "meego is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." Oh dear....23:33
CosmoHillsmurf:23:33
CosmoHillsu -23:34
CosmoHillthen visudo23:34
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smurfOK now I get an error about the path. It is downloaded in the '23:37
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CosmoHillah yes23:37
smurfIt is downloaded in the default "Download" location. What's the appropriate path?23:37
CosmoHillit would be /sbin/visudo or /usr/sbin/visudo23:38
jerrylucis gma500 supported on 1.2?23:38
smurf"Problem with the RPM file specified as 'sbin-blabla.rpm', skipping. No valid arguments specified."23:41
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sofarjerryluc: please read the release notes23:42
sofaractually, its not mentioned in there, hmmm23:43
sofarshort answer: not out of the box23:43
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jerrylucsofar: thanks. couldnt find anything about it23:47
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smurfCosmpHill: ok. I think I got it working using rpm -i /home/meego/Downloads/kernel...etc....rpm. Now how do I check the kernel version?23:56
sofarcheck your /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf23:57
sofaralso23:58
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sofaronce rebooted, type `uname -r`23:58
Saviq_afksmurf: uname -a23:58
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sofaruname -a works too obviously :)23:58
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