| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:00 | |
| *** gombos has quit IRC | 00:00 | |
| *** Umeaboy has quit IRC | 00:00 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:00 | |
| smurf | BTW how do I reboot without first shutting down? It causes an extra powerup cycle on my HD. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| *** gombos has quit IRC | 00:00 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:01 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:01 | |
| *** smoku has joined #meego | 00:02 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:02 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:03 | |
| *** DawnFoster has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** gombos has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:03 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:04 | |
| *** Vanadis has joined #meego | 00:04 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:05 | |
| CosmoHill | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ2OQ | 00:05 |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:05 | |
| *** gombos has quit IRC | 00:06 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:06 | |
| *** gombos has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:07 | |
| *** Vanadis__ has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
| *** gombos has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:07 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:08 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:09 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:09 | |
| gabrbedd | gombos: MAKE UP YOUR MIND! :-) | 00:09 |
| *** Umeaboy has joined #meego | 00:11 | |
| *** billyjam has quit IRC | 00:12 | |
| *** gombos has quit IRC | 00:12 | |
| *** gombos has joined #meego | 00:12 | |
| ieatlint | oh great, the wifi APs were last used in san diego, so now google is convinced i'm in san diego | 00:13 |
| *** billyjam has joined #meego | 00:13 | |
| *** sofar has quit IRC | 00:13 | |
| gabrbedd | ieatlint: makes it easier to sneak up on people. | 00:13 |
| CosmoHill | rofl | 00:14 |
| ieatlint | i'm also told they're bragging there is 150Mbit pipe for the conference with bursting up to 1Gbit | 00:14 |
| ieatlint | and the aps are all wired with different uplinks, so it shouldn't get too bad… maybe.. | 00:15 |
| CosmoHill | ieatlint: at uni we have 300N wifi with a 100Mb/s backend | 00:16 |
| *** ware has joined #meego | 00:16 | |
| ieatlint | they're running 802.11g here it seems | 00:18 |
| CosmoHill | we have the fantastic problem of all the servers are on the other campus | 00:18 |
| ieatlint | haha | 00:18 |
| CosmoHill | twice the connection has broken and stopped all of our services working | 00:19 |
| ieatlint | they do that at a number of retail stores here… wifi to the cash registers | 00:19 |
| ieatlint | aside from the security concerns, you can walk in with a jammer and take down most/all of their cash registers | 00:20 |
| CosmoHill | really? | 00:20 |
| ieatlint | yeah, there was an infamous case when someone dsicovered they could sit in the parking lot and intercept transactions | 00:20 |
| CosmoHill | most confusing thing was a notice saying "cable broken at X" | 00:20 |
| CosmoHill | between the two campuses, X is about 10 miles to the left | 00:20 |
| ieatlint | http://www.docdroppers.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hacking_Home_Depot | 00:21 |
| ieatlint | err, no, that's someone going up to the registers | 00:21 |
| ieatlint | hmm, there's an article somewhere about the wifi incident | 00:21 |
| smurf | CosmoHill: I got the zypper command working with a whole sequence of messages that it was creating things and asking whether I wanted to install the new kernel and reporting succesful completion but apparently it isn't persistent because after a reboot I still have the old kernel. The download was also not persistent and I had to redownload. | 00:30 |
| smurf | Is it at all possible to do these things in a live version? | 00:30 |
| CosmoHill | no | 00:30 |
| CosmoHill | if you reboot the live version, everything is lost | 00:31 |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 00:31 | |
| smurf | Well that was the whole point.... Will that version sofar linked to here: http://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest/images/meego-netbook-ia32/ have the .39 kernel? | 00:33 |
| CosmoHill | I don't know | 00:33 |
| CosmoHill | if you need to update the kernel you need to instal Meego first | 00:34 |
| smurf | I understood it was suggested that kernel had Broadcom support built in. | 00:34 |
| smurf | I started with a question about installation... Back where I started. | 00:35 |
| *** nasa has joined #meego | 00:36 | |
| *** tackat has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
| gabrbedd | smurf: you can not install a kernel into the live image. | 00:36 |
| gabrbedd | smurf: You have to create your own image using mic2. | 00:36 |
| gabrbedd | smurf: Or, if you're an expert at isolinux and squashfs... you can try to remaster the .img. I don't recommend this route... and nobody will help you with it. | 00:37 |
| *** aloril has quit IRC | 00:38 | |
| *** Ans5i has joined #meego | 00:38 | |
| smurf | I'm definitely not an expert. Where can I find that mic2? | 00:38 |
| gabrbedd | smurf: Unfortunately -- mic2 isn't really an "easy" fix, either. | 00:39 |
| gabrbedd | smurf: But if you're determined, there's info on the wiki on how to get started with mic2. | 00:39 |
| *** andyross has quit IRC | 00:39 | |
| gabrbedd | smhar: It's a developer tool -- so be ready to set aside a few hours to learn how to use it. | 00:39 |
| smurf | Do you kow whether the version here: http://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest/images/meego-netbook-ia32/ has a newer kernel? | 00:40 |
| gabrbedd | smurf: look in the packages list right next to it. | 00:40 |
| smurf | Right. It seems to have that same kernel I tried to install. Now there's still the question whether it has Broadcom WiFi support built-in. | 00:43 |
| *** aloril has joined #meego | 00:43 | |
| *** piggz has quit IRC | 00:43 | |
| gabrbedd | smurf: sofar says it does, and he should know. | 00:44 |
| smurf | I'll try that image. Do you know whether it is possible to reboot without shutting down (powering off) first? | 00:47 |
| gabrbedd | smurf: As root, you can `shutdown -r now` and that should avoid a poweroff... but YMMV. | 00:48 |
| smurf | In terminal? | 00:49 |
| *** TheOpenSourcerer has left #meego | 00:49 | |
| *** clbr has joined #meego | 00:49 | |
| *** smoku has left #meego | 00:52 | |
| rtyler | I'm thinking about getting this device to play around with: http://amzn.com/B0032ALW5C how might I go about finding out if meego 1.2 will operate with it? | 00:52 |
| * rtyler is dying to try out the latest release | 00:52 | |
| smurf | gabrbedd: Yup. That worked. It rebooted. Frankly I feel it should be possible to do this from the GUI. How hard can it be to add this? | 00:53 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: that'll work. Several of us have them. | 00:54 |
| *** shad_ has joined #meego | 00:54 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 00:54 | |
| gabrbedd | smurf: File a feature request on bugs.meego.com | 00:54 |
| rtyler | gabrbedd: will it work well enough for daily use? I don't want to find myself in another Maemo boat :P | 00:55 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: the one gotcha is if it comes with a broadcom wifi card... which is unsupported (but there's some workarounds that work well) | 00:55 |
| rtyler | or openmoko for that matter <_< | 00:55 |
| rtyler | gabrbedd: got a link for the workaround(s)? | 00:55 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: that netbook is awesome no matter what Linux distro you run on it. | 00:55 |
| rtyler | heh | 00:55 |
| rtyler | fair enough | 00:55 |
| rtyler | you don't work for lenovo do you? :) | 00:55 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: google slaine broadcom meego | 00:56 |
| gabrbedd | no, i don't work for lenovo | 00:56 |
| smurf | gabrbedd: I now see the latest image is over 300MB smaller than the 1.2 release. What's missing? | 00:56 |
| rtyler | you wouldn't happen to have any good photos of that device rnuning meego would you? :D | 00:56 |
| gabrbedd | smurf: dunno. compare package lists. | 00:56 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: me? not at the moment. | 00:57 |
| rtyler | rats | 00:57 |
| rtyler | besides ubuntu, know if meego and/or other distributions ship multitouch support that works with the device? | 00:57 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: why? there's lots of youtubes and stuff all over the place. | 00:58 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: meego supports mt as well as ubuntu unity. | 00:58 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: The next question is... what APPLICATIONS support it? (Answer: not many) | 00:58 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: but even so, single touch goes a loooooong way | 00:58 |
| rtyler | isn't this the device that was given out at MeeGoConf last year as wlel? | 00:59 |
| gabrbedd | rtyler: yes, but that one had an atheros wifi card (which is supported out of the box) | 00:59 |
| *** bot_JL__ has quit IRC | 00:59 | |
| *** bot_JL__ has joined #meego | 01:00 | |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 01:03 | |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 01:03 | |
| *** andredieb has joined #meego | 01:08 | |
| *** Umeaboy has quit IRC | 01:08 | |
| *** ware has quit IRC | 01:09 | |
| rtyler | drats, talked myself out of the idea | 01:10 |
| *** shad_ has quit IRC | 01:13 | |
| *** mortenvp has quit IRC | 01:19 | |
| *** shad_ has joined #meego | 01:21 | |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 01:25 | |
| *** berndhs has joined #meego | 01:28 | |
| *** tkeisala has quit IRC | 01:29 | |
| *** tkeisala has joined #meego | 01:31 | |
| *** phl0x81 has joined #meego | 01:32 | |
| *** bboyvat has quit IRC | 01:37 | |
| *** bboyvat has joined #meego | 01:37 | |
| *** u19809 has joined #meego | 01:40 | |
| *** clbr has quit IRC | 01:43 | |
| *** clbr has joined #meego | 01:44 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 01:47 | |
| *** andredieb has quit IRC | 01:55 | |
| *** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 01:55 | |
| *** thiagoss has joined #meego | 01:58 | |
| *** timsamoff has joined #meego | 01:58 | |
| *** nasa has quit IRC | 02:01 | |
| *** akk has joined #meego | 02:11 | |
| *** Jay_BEE has quit IRC | 02:16 | |
| *** Saviq is now known as Saviq_afk | 02:16 | |
| *** Ans5i has quit IRC | 02:16 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 02:19 | |
| *** DawnFoster has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** eijk has quit IRC | 02:20 | |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 02:22 | |
| *** lynxis has quit IRC | 02:22 | |
| *** timsamoff has quit IRC | 02:23 | |
| *** Saviq_afk is now known as Saviq | 02:23 | |
| *** Saviq is now known as Saviq_afk | 02:23 | |
| *** Saviq_afk has left #meego | 02:24 | |
| *** xxiao_ has quit IRC | 02:28 | |
| *** stefanoP has quit IRC | 02:29 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC | 02:30 | |
| *** akiniemi has quit IRC | 02:30 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has joined #meego | 02:31 | |
| *** bot_JL__ has quit IRC | 02:31 | |
| *** [XeN] has joined #meego | 02:31 | |
| *** bboyvat has quit IRC | 02:31 | |
| *** bot_JL__ has joined #meego | 02:31 | |
| *** akiniemi has joined #meego | 02:31 | |
| *** bboyvat has joined #meego | 02:31 | |
| *** stefanoP has joined #meego | 02:32 | |
| *** kW has quit IRC | 02:34 | |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 02:38 | |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 02:38 | |
| *** balor has quit IRC | 02:39 | |
| *** xxiao has joined #meego | 02:40 | |
| *** ware has joined #meego | 02:40 | |
| *** [XeN] is now known as [XeN]-away | 02:44 | |
| *** [XeN]-away is now known as [XeN] | 02:45 | |
| *** raster has joined #meego | 02:45 | |
| *** raster has joined #meego | 02:45 | |
| *** clbr has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
| *** mikecomputing has quit IRC | 02:53 | |
| *** lbt_2 has quit IRC | 02:54 | |
| *** lpt has joined #meego | 02:54 | |
| *** jausmus has joined #meego | 02:54 | |
| *** akk has quit IRC | 02:59 | |
| DocScrutinizer | /join #meegoconf | 03:01 |
| * MohammadAG suggests #meegoconf here on Freenode for all MeeGo conference attendees/stalkers/lurkers :) | 03:02 | |
| *** phl0x81 has quit IRC | 03:03 | |
| *** DawnFoster has quit IRC | 03:08 | |
| *** raininja has joined #meego | 03:11 | |
| *** mer_ge has quit IRC | 03:12 | |
| *** clbr has joined #meego | 03:13 | |
| *** u19809 has quit IRC | 03:23 | |
| *** clbr has quit IRC | 03:32 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 03:33 | |
| *** akk has joined #meego | 03:54 | |
| *** smurf has left #meego | 03:55 | |
| *** marienz has quit IRC | 04:01 | |
| *** pixelgeek has quit IRC | 04:04 | |
| *** dailylinux has quit IRC | 04:13 | |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 04:38 | |
| *** dailylinux has joined #meego | 04:54 | |
| *** gimzo_ has joined #meego | 04:56 | |
| *** gimzo has quit IRC | 04:57 | |
| *** pcfe has quit IRC | 05:00 | |
| *** pcfe has joined #meego | 05:01 | |
| *** pcfe has joined #meego | 05:01 | |
| *** thiagoss has quit IRC | 05:02 | |
| *** the_lord has joined #meego | 05:06 | |
| *** mwichmann_ has joined #meego | 05:23 | |
| *** mwichmann has quit IRC | 05:24 | |
| *** MacDrunk has joined #meego | 05:26 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 05:32 | |
| *** yanli has joined #meego | 05:33 | |
| *** InformatiQ has quit IRC | 05:34 | |
| *** the_lord has quit IRC | 05:35 | |
| *** akk has quit IRC | 05:49 | |
| *** akk has joined #meego | 05:52 | |
| *** dfslkj has joined #meego | 05:53 | |
| *** dfslkj has quit IRC | 05:56 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has quit IRC | 05:58 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has joined #meego | 05:59 | |
| Myrtti | I'm feeling absolutely surreal | 06:02 |
| *** [XeN] has quit IRC | 06:02 | |
| wmarone_ | surreal, huh? | 06:03 |
| Myrtti | aw, my laptop powerbrick is incompatible with my AC adapter | 06:05 |
| Myrtti | --> | 06:05 |
| Myrtti | yes, very surreal | 06:05 |
| wmarone_ | wow, that sucks | 06:06 |
| wmarone_ | I'd check if the front desk doesn't have any cables, might not need if they do | 06:09 |
| *** Zorry has quit IRC | 06:12 | |
| *** andyross has joined #meego | 06:14 | |
| *** dl9pf_ has joined #meego | 06:15 | |
| *** dl9pf has quit IRC | 06:16 | |
| *** Unmensch has quit IRC | 06:30 | |
| *** Unmenschlich has joined #meego | 06:30 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 06:31 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 06:32 | |
| *** andyross has quit IRC | 06:35 | |
| *** yanli has quit IRC | 06:41 | |
| *** auke_otg has joined #meego | 06:46 | |
| *** thiago_muc has joined #meego | 06:48 | |
| * mikeleib waves to thiago_muc | 06:48 | |
| * mikeleib will party with fellow MeeGoers on Monday! | 06:49 | |
| *** mitsutaka has joined #meego | 06:49 | |
| Myrtti | wmarone_: thanks, that's a good idea | 06:53 |
| *** shad_ has quit IRC | 06:56 | |
| *** akk has quit IRC | 07:00 | |
| *** psycho_oreos has joined #meego | 07:04 | |
| *** auke_otg has quit IRC | 07:04 | |
| *** andre__ has joined #meego | 07:15 | |
| *** berndhs has quit IRC | 07:16 | |
| *** Nebuna has joined #meego | 07:17 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer has joined #meego | 07:31 | |
| *** ware has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| iekku | evening | 07:35 |
| *** berndhs has joined #meego | 07:37 | |
| Myrtti | $timeofday | 07:41 |
| gabrbedd | hi iekku | 07:41 |
| berndhs | wayy past midnight, iekku is late | 07:42 |
| iekku | berndhs, nooo, it's 21:42 | 07:42 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: are you going to meegoconf? | 07:42 |
| iekku | Myrtti, i think i saw you when you arrived to hotel | 07:43 |
| berndhs | no, cant swing the conference | 07:43 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: :-( | 07:43 |
| berndhs | indeed | 07:43 |
| Myrtti | iekku: yup, dazed and tired as hell | 07:44 |
| *** jero- has joined #meego | 07:45 | |
| iekku | Myrtti, i hear you sister :) | 07:45 |
| *** MacDrunk has quit IRC | 07:47 | |
| *** sheepbat has quit IRC | 07:47 | |
| *** MacDrunk has joined #meego | 07:52 | |
| *** mrmoku` has joined #meego | 08:02 | |
| *** akeripper has joined #meego | 08:02 | |
| *** mrmoku has quit IRC | 08:04 | |
| *** yanshuang has joined #meego | 08:07 | |
| *** gabrbedd has quit IRC | 08:07 | |
| *** jero-- has joined #meego | 08:08 | |
| *** jero- has quit IRC | 08:09 | |
| *** maour has joined #meego | 08:13 | |
| *** Ian-- has joined #meego | 08:14 | |
| *** Ian--- has quit IRC | 08:14 | |
| *** jero-- has quit IRC | 08:16 | |
| *** terietor has quit IRC | 08:19 | |
| *** maour has quit IRC | 08:23 | |
| *** maour has joined #meego | 08:23 | |
| *** Nebuna has left #meego | 08:24 | |
| *** jero-- has joined #meego | 08:24 | |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 08:26 | |
| *** jero-- has quit IRC | 08:32 | |
| *** jero-- has joined #meego | 08:33 | |
| *** lbt900 has joined #meego | 08:33 | |
| *** nicktime has joined #meego | 08:33 | |
| *** nicktime has left #meego | 08:35 | |
| *** wazd has joined #meego | 08:35 | |
| *** onen|openBmap has joined #meego | 08:44 | |
| *** yanshuang has quit IRC | 08:50 | |
| *** jero-- has quit IRC | 08:51 | |
| *** the-light has joined #meego | 08:53 | |
| *** onen|openBmap has quit IRC | 08:55 | |
| *** andre__ has quit IRC | 08:58 | |
| *** gbraad has quit IRC | 09:04 | |
| *** berndhs has quit IRC | 09:04 | |
| *** gbraad has joined #meego | 09:05 | |
| *** gbraad has joined #meego | 09:05 | |
| *** sheepbat has joined #meego | 09:13 | |
| *** Scifi has joined #meego | 09:17 | |
| *** raininja has quit IRC | 09:24 | |
| *** Scifi has quit IRC | 09:26 | |
| *** nicktime has joined #meego | 09:26 | |
| *** Scifi has joined #meego | 09:28 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has quit IRC | 09:30 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has joined #meego | 09:31 | |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 09:35 | |
| *** Jay_BEE has joined #meego | 09:37 | |
| *** timeless_w7ip has joined #meego | 09:39 | |
| *** mrmoku` is now known as mrmoku | 09:48 | |
| *** leinir has joined #meego | 09:50 | |
| *** Ans5i has joined #meego | 09:56 | |
| *** jerryluc has quit IRC | 10:03 | |
| *** Jay_BEE has quit IRC | 10:06 | |
| *** aloril has quit IRC | 10:07 | |
| *** aloril has joined #meego | 10:07 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 10:17 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 10:19 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 10:24 | |
| *** chris-qBT_ has quit IRC | 10:27 | |
| *** Aparna has quit IRC | 10:32 | |
| *** Aparna has joined #meego | 10:32 | |
| *** the-light has quit IRC | 10:40 | |
| *** the-light has joined #meego | 10:40 | |
| *** NIN101 has joined #meego | 10:42 | |
| *** toniher_casa has quit IRC | 10:42 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 10:49 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 10:49 | |
| *** nsuffys has joined #meego | 11:06 | |
| *** siddvicious has joined #meego | 11:13 | |
| *** siddvicious has left #meego | 11:13 | |
| *** wazd has quit IRC | 11:14 | |
| *** Umeaboy has joined #meego | 11:15 | |
| *** siddharths has joined #meego | 11:18 | |
| *** siddharths has left #meego | 11:19 | |
| *** Armi^ has joined #meego | 11:21 | |
| *** the-light has quit IRC | 11:24 | |
| *** chris-qBT_ has joined #meego | 11:25 | |
| *** nicktime has left #meego | 11:28 | |
| *** sheepbat has quit IRC | 11:30 | |
| *** lynxis has joined #meego | 11:34 | |
| *** d12n has joined #meego | 11:34 | |
| *** RST38bis has joined #meego | 11:36 | |
| *** johd has joined #meego | 11:36 | |
| *** balor has joined #meego | 11:37 | |
| *** thiago_muc has quit IRC | 11:45 | |
| *** thiago_muc has joined #meego | 11:45 | |
| *** thiago_muc is now known as thiago | 11:45 | |
| *** thiago has quit IRC | 11:49 | |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 11:50 | |
| *** wazd has joined #meego | 11:51 | |
| *** Aparna has quit IRC | 11:52 | |
| *** Aparna has joined #meego | 11:53 | |
| *** Aparna has quit IRC | 11:59 | |
| *** leinir has joined #meego | 12:05 | |
| *** RST38bis has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| *** timeless_w7ip has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| *** War2 has joined #meego | 12:18 | |
| *** War2 has joined #meego | 12:18 | |
| *** slonopotamus has joined #meego | 12:20 | |
| *** lardman has joined #meego | 12:23 | |
| *** lardman has joined #meego | 12:23 | |
| *** d12n has left #meego | 12:28 | |
| *** maour has quit IRC | 12:30 | |
| *** hsch has quit IRC | 12:36 | |
| *** LoCusF has quit IRC | 12:37 | |
| *** hsch has joined #meego | 12:39 | |
| *** esolve has joined #meego | 12:42 | |
| *** MacDrunk has quit IRC | 12:43 | |
| *** esolve has left #meego | 12:45 | |
| *** pcacjr__ has joined #meego | 12:45 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 12:46 | |
| *** johd has quit IRC | 12:46 | |
| jykae | have fun at meego conf, will follow live stream | 12:50 |
| *** LoCusF has joined #meego | 12:53 | |
| *** shad_ has joined #meego | 12:58 | |
| *** nicktime has joined #meego | 12:59 | |
| *** jpe has joined #meego | 13:02 | |
| *** pcacjr__ has quit IRC | 13:03 | |
| *** maour has joined #meego | 13:05 | |
| *** wazd has quit IRC | 13:06 | |
| *** Umeaboy has quit IRC | 13:11 | |
| lcuk | jykae, live stream url? | 13:15 |
| lcuk | morning lardman, have you had bacon yet? | 13:15 |
| *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC | 13:17 | |
| *** sheepbat has joined #meego | 13:19 | |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 13:19 | |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 13:19 | |
| jykae | lcuk: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/live-streaming | 13:20 |
| jykae | could be tough in finnish timezone, though :) | 13:21 |
| * lcuk nods | 13:21 | |
| lcuk | thanks jykae I have it bookmarks, are those times US/SF normalised then? | 13:22 |
| jykae | I think SFO local times | 13:23 |
| dm8tbr | what's that time offset to UTC? | 13:23 |
| *** mortenvp has joined #meego | 13:23 | |
| jykae | live stream says 3:24 SFO time | 13:24 |
| *** shad_ has quit IRC | 13:25 | |
| jykae | it's -10 hours offset from finnish timezone :D | 13:26 |
| jykae | well, it's prob recorded also.. | 13:27 |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 13:28 | |
| lcuk | heh | 13:28 |
| lcuk | what is S3 in regards to suspend/resume? | 13:28 |
| *** arvind_khadri has joined #meego | 13:30 | |
| *** smoku has joined #meego | 13:30 | |
| *** balor_ has joined #meego | 13:32 | |
| lcuk | 1.2 tablet ux comes complete with some wtf moments | 13:32 |
| jykae | dm8tbr:UTC -7 also.. | 13:32 |
| *** balor has quit IRC | 13:33 | |
| *** shad_ has joined #meego | 13:34 | |
| *** zenzen has joined #meego | 13:46 | |
| *** CosmoHill has joined #meego | 13:46 | |
| CosmoHill | stupid question, does the Intel G41 chipset support 4GB RAM sticks? | 13:47 |
| *** War2 has quit IRC | 13:49 | |
| *** War2 has joined #meego | 13:52 | |
| *** sheepbat has quit IRC | 13:53 | |
| *** Zorry has joined #meego | 13:57 | |
| *** Zorry has joined #meego | 13:57 | |
| * timoph curses the -10h time differnce | 13:59 | |
| dm8tbr | quite convenient, I can watch the stuff after work :) | 14:02 |
| dm8tbr | esp. as I can't book it on work time anyway | 14:02 |
| *** Evanescence has joined #meego | 14:02 | |
| timoph | :) | 14:03 |
| *** mwichmann has joined #meego | 14:03 | |
| *** War2 has quit IRC | 14:04 | |
| mufumbo | anyone going to the conference in sf? | 14:16 |
| * timoph is already there | 14:17 | |
| *** kW has quit IRC | 14:19 | |
| *** raster has quit IRC | 14:27 | |
| lcuk | timoph, which sessions are you going to today? | 14:34 |
| lcuk | the jetlag one, or was that yesterday? | 14:34 |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 14:34 | |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 14:34 | |
| timoph | lcuk: :) | 14:35 |
| CosmoHill | oh crap, just ordered 1.65v RAM for a 1.5v motherboard | 14:35 |
| lcuk | timoph, the appup one is this afternoon isn't it? | 14:36 |
| *** nasa has joined #meego | 14:38 | |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, update the order then | 14:39 |
| *** kW has quit IRC | 14:39 | |
| *** Evanescence has quit IRC | 14:41 | |
| *** Evanescence has joined #meego | 14:41 | |
| *** slonopotamus has quit IRC | 14:42 | |
| *** tackat has joined #meego | 14:50 | |
| *** shad_ has quit IRC | 14:51 | |
| *** mwichmann has quit IRC | 14:59 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 15:00 | |
| *** tackat has quit IRC | 15:00 | |
| *** lardman|home has joined #meego | 15:02 | |
| *** Evanescence has quit IRC | 15:04 | |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 15:06 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 15:11 | |
| *** Evanescence has joined #meego | 15:12 | |
| *** [XeN] has joined #meego | 15:14 | |
| *** prashant__ has quit IRC | 15:15 | |
| *** prashant has joined #meego | 15:15 | |
| *** shad_ has joined #meego | 15:16 | |
| *** nicktime has left #meego | 15:17 | |
| *** Ans5i has quit IRC | 15:17 | |
| CosmoHill | send them a query asking them to replace the RAM with different RAM | 15:21 |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 15:29 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 15:29 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 15:29 | |
| *** johd has joined #meego | 15:32 | |
| *** Evanescence has quit IRC | 15:34 | |
| *** piggz has joined #meego | 15:34 | |
| *** piggz has quit IRC | 15:38 | |
| lardman|home | lcuk: morning, sorry for the slow reply, no no bacon croissants instead | 15:38 |
| *** Openfree` has joined #meego | 15:40 | |
| *** siddvicious has joined #meego | 15:40 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 15:41 | |
| lcuk | sounds reasonable lardman|home | 15:43 |
| lardman|home | you in SF now then lcuk ? | 15:43 |
| * lardman|home wonders how that line parses | 15:43 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 15:46 | |
| lcuk | lardman|home, no | 15:48 |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 15:51 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 15:52 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 15:59 | |
| *** raijin has joined #meego | 16:00 | |
| *** raijin has joined #meego | 16:00 | |
| *** balor_ has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 16:01 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 16:05 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 16:06 | |
| *** sraue has quit IRC | 16:08 | |
| *** sraue has joined #meego | 16:09 | |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 16:10 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 16:12 | |
| lcuk | on my ideapad/tablet ux 1.2, the vkb comes up even though it has real keyboard available | 16:12 |
| lcuk | what is a bit more troublesome, is that it covers the network connect textboxes and cannot move the keyboard or the ui to see contents | 16:13 |
| *** War2 has joined #meego | 16:14 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 16:14 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 16:14 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 16:14 | |
| *** johd has quit IRC | 16:14 | |
| *** berndhs has joined #meego | 16:18 | |
| *** Evanescence has joined #meego | 16:19 | |
| *** balor_ has joined #meego | 16:21 | |
| lcuk | bug 17810 | 16:21 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17810 maj, Medium, ---, junmin.zhu, ASSI, Input field is overlapped by VKB | 16:21 |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** siddvicious has left #meego | 16:26 | |
| *** u19809 has joined #meego | 16:26 | |
| *** mer_ge has joined #meego | 16:27 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 16:28 | |
| *** War2_ has joined #meego | 16:30 | |
| *** War2 has quit IRC | 16:32 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has quit IRC | 16:32 | |
| *** War2_ is now known as War2 | 16:33 | |
| *** War2 has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
| *** War2 has joined #meego | 16:33 | |
| *** mmc1 has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 16:35 | |
| *** pcfe has quit IRC | 16:36 | |
| *** pcfe has joined #meego | 16:36 | |
| *** pcfe has joined #meego | 16:36 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 16:36 | |
| *** jpetersen has joined #meego | 16:38 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has joined #meego | 16:38 | |
| *** johd has joined #meego | 16:40 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 16:41 | |
| *** thiago has joined #meego | 16:42 | |
| *** andyross has joined #meego | 16:45 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 16:46 | |
| *** abhijeet has joined #meego | 16:49 | |
| *** panaggio_ has joined #meego | 16:51 | |
| *** panaggio_ has quit IRC | 16:55 | |
| *** felipec has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** andyross has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| *** pcacjr__ has joined #meego | 17:04 | |
| *** shad_ has quit IRC | 17:05 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 17:07 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 17:14 | |
| *** lcuklenovo has joined #meego | 17:16 | |
| *** eti has joined #meego | 17:21 | |
| lcuklenovo | is there a workiung xchat build for the n900-de? | 17:21 |
| *** mattock has joined #meego | 17:22 | |
| wmarone_ | lcuklenovo: what version of the DE do you have installed? | 17:23 |
| lcuklenovo | wmarone_: daily from 0520 (friday) | 17:23 |
| wmarone_ | ok | 17:24 |
| * lcuklenovo is sat at ideapad though at the moment | 17:24 | |
| *** phl0x81 has joined #meego | 17:26 | |
| *** dck\bnc is now known as Deck` | 17:28 | |
| *** Openfree` has quit IRC | 17:30 | |
| *** pcacjr__ has quit IRC | 17:30 | |
| *** Umeaboy has joined #meego | 17:30 | |
| *** Evanescence has quit IRC | 17:30 | |
| *** mtux has joined #meego | 17:31 | |
| *** Scifi has quit IRC | 17:35 | |
| *** Ans5i has joined #meego | 17:42 | |
| *** psycho_oreos has quit IRC | 17:45 | |
| *** leinir has joined #meego | 17:45 | |
| *** RodrigoPadula has joined #meego | 17:48 | |
| *** eti has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| *** Venemo_ has joined #meego | 17:50 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 17:50 | |
| *** sheepbat has joined #meego | 17:51 | |
| *** maour has quit IRC | 17:51 | |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 17:53 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 17:54 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 17:54 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 17:54 | |
| *** phl0x81 has quit IRC | 17:55 | |
| *** Kaskuka has quit IRC | 17:57 | |
| *** Kaskuka has joined #meego | 17:57 | |
| Myrtti | right | 17:59 |
| Myrtti | good morning | 18:00 |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 18:00 | |
| *** mitsutaka has quit IRC | 18:00 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 18:00 | |
| RST38h | Good moorning indeed | 18:04 |
| *** foolano has joined #meego | 18:04 | |
| Myrtti | I probably shouldn't ruin my breakfast with these pretzels | 18:05 |
| Ronksu | morning | 18:07 |
| lcuklenovo | morning Myrtti and RST38h \o | 18:10 |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 18:10 | |
| lcuklenovo | and Ronksu too | 18:10 |
| Ronksu | hey lcuk | 18:12 |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 18:12 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 18:13 | |
| *** andredieb has joined #meego | 18:14 | |
| *** abhijeet has quit IRC | 18:16 | |
| *** lynxis has quit IRC | 18:25 | |
| lcuklenovo | Myrtti: are you heading to the maker faaayre? | 18:25 |
| lcuklenovo | fayre * | 18:27 |
| lcuklenovo | faire even ffs :P | 18:27 |
| *** nsuffys has quit IRC | 18:29 | |
| Myrtti | lcuklenovo: don't know yet | 18:31 |
| *** DawnFoster has joined #meego | 18:31 | |
| lcuklenovo | i didn't know there was so many of them, http://makerfaire.com/ | 18:31 |
| lcuklenovo | Myrtti: is it in the hyatt complex or elsewhere? | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | San Bruno, quite a travel away | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | near the SFO | 18:32 |
| lcuklenovo | have you landed and gotten over jetlag already? | 18:33 |
| *** TheOpenSourcerer has joined #meego | 18:34 | |
| * wmarone_ goes to print out maps to his hotel | 18:34 | |
| *** timeless has joined #meego | 18:34 | |
| Myrtti | yeah, landed about 14 hours ago, had a good 10 hour sleep | 18:34 |
| timeless | hello world from MeeGo Conf Warm Up | 18:34 |
| lcuklenovo | \o timeless | 18:34 |
| timeless | (this screen is projected) | 18:34 |
| timeless | oh, i'm looking for suggested projects / problems to walk people through w/ mxr | 18:34 |
| lcuklenovo | hello warmup folks! | 18:34 |
| timeless | anyone have any? | 18:35 |
| lcuklenovo | finding out where random #defines are declared is often used | 18:35 |
| timeless | yeah, but got a specific define or project in mind? | 18:36 |
| lcuklenovo | so some code in random module uses SOMETHING and its value is not known, putting the keyword into mxr will show all places where defined and used through the system | 18:36 |
| *** mikhas has joined #meego | 18:36 | |
| lcuklenovo | timeless: hold on, using the other mxr, irc search to see where, I normally paste a link for folks once I see it | 18:38 |
| * timeless is confused | 18:38 | |
| * timeless will wait for a link | 18:38 | |
| *** dwmw2 has quit IRC | 18:38 | |
| timeless | currently i'm browsing http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/ivihome/ because it smells like GUI | 18:38 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 18:40 | |
| *** Pathin_ has quit IRC | 18:42 | |
| *** nsuffys has joined #meego | 18:42 | |
| *** mmc1 has joined #meego | 18:43 | |
| *** timeless has quit IRC | 18:43 | |
| *** timeless has joined #meego | 18:43 | |
| * timeless adjusts DPI to make screen somewhat readable | 18:44 | |
| *** Pathin has joined #meego | 18:44 | |
| *** mwichmann has joined #meego | 18:45 | |
| lcuklenovo | timeless: ok, so somebody comes into the channel asking a question about mcompositor and a specific variable (simplified example) plumbing the variable they mention into mxr gives: | 18:48 |
| *** NIN101 has joined #meego | 18:48 | |
| lcuklenovo | http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/search?string=ismcompositor | 18:48 |
| *** lbt900 has quit IRC | 18:49 | |
| lcuklenovo | it gives a simple way to see how and where that variable is used for people helping | 18:49 |
| lcuklenovo | rather than having to checkout the source, grep contents and potentially all the required dependencies | 18:50 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 18:52 |
| *** panaggio_ has joined #meego | 18:54 | |
| *** johd has quit IRC | 18:54 | |
| * timeless nods | 18:56 | |
| * timeless frowns | 18:56 | |
| timeless | i don't seem to have keys to get to MXR from here. i think the only box w/ keys is in a crate on a 6-10 week trip from Finland to Canada ... | 18:56 |
| timeless | thankfully mxr basically just works tm :) | 18:56 |
| *** Pathin has quit IRC | 18:58 | |
| *** DawnFoster has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| *** lbt900 has joined #meego | 19:01 | |
| *** Venemo_ has quit IRC | 19:02 | |
| lcuklenovo | jaffa have you got one of those laptops which cannot really be used mobile? | 19:04 |
| *** dspeed has joined #meego | 19:04 | |
| *** foolano has quit IRC | 19:04 | |
| alterego | Heya | 19:05 |
| *** dspeed1 has joined #meego | 19:05 | |
| *** ced117 has joined #meego | 19:05 | |
| alterego | lcuklenovo: in the Intel App Up Labs at the moment :) | 19:05 |
| alterego | I'm within firing distance of Jaffa, do you want me to throw a bagel at him? | 19:05 |
| *** pcacjr_ has joined #meego | 19:05 | |
| mikeleib | bagel in the ear always gets somebody's attention | 19:06 |
| alterego | :) | 19:06 |
| *** pixelgeek has joined #meego | 19:08 | |
| *** mtux has quit IRC | 19:08 | |
| *** dspeed has quit IRC | 19:08 | |
| *** mtux has joined #meego | 19:08 | |
| *** lcuklenovo has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
| *** Frye has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
| *** timsamoff has joined #meego | 19:10 | |
| lcuk | alterego, cool stuff, what are you learning about? | 19:11 |
| *** akk has joined #meego | 19:12 | |
| ieatlint | alterego: you are somewhere near me as well then | 19:12 |
| *** dspeed1 has quit IRC | 19:14 | |
| *** Jay_BEE has joined #meego | 19:16 | |
| *** Guest46251 has joined #meego | 19:16 | |
| *** u19809 has quit IRC | 19:17 | |
| *** lbt900 has quit IRC | 19:19 | |
| alterego | lcuk: nothing at the moment. | 19:19 |
| alterego | ieatlint: where are you, I'm right at the back,. | 19:20 |
| alterego | Next to thp :) | 19:20 |
| alterego | lcuk: They're talking about what we're going to be talking about. | 19:20 |
| alterego | Currently obtaining the SDK | 19:20 |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 19:20 | |
| ieatlint | i'm far right, 2nd row from front | 19:21 |
| *** ware has joined #meego | 19:21 | |
| Jay_BEE | good morning | 19:21 |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 19:21 | |
| ieatlint | morning | 19:21 |
| lcuk | alterego, lol | 19:22 |
| *** lpt has quit IRC | 19:22 | |
| lcuk | everyone in irc and in appup do a mexican wave! | 19:22 |
| alterego | ieatlint: near the wall | 19:22 |
| alterego | Heh | 19:22 |
| alterego | I don't think everyone is in here :P | 19:22 |
| ieatlint | yeah, you must be directly behind me by several rows | 19:22 |
| alterego | I'm middle right, back row. | 19:23 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: My laptop lasts about 90 minutes. | 19:23 |
| ieatlint | ah | 19:23 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: bit longer | 19:23 |
| ieatlint | there's power at the back corners of the room, and a couple places on the sides | 19:23 |
| ieatlint | i'm plugged in :P | 19:23 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, ahh | 19:23 |
| alterego | My battery should last about 3-4 hours | 19:24 |
| alterego | So I should be okay. | 19:24 |
| alterego | (Got a 9 cell) | 19:24 |
| * Jaffa can see lbt down at the front right corner, I think | 19:24 | |
| lcuk | lower screen brightness! | 19:24 |
| *** billyjam has quit IRC | 19:24 | |
| * Jaffa has a 4 cell | 19:24 | |
| Jaffa | lcuk: I've got power :-) | 19:24 |
| lcuk | do you have a wizards hat and a magic wand too? | 19:24 |
| ieatlint | i accidentally left mine at home :( | 19:25 |
| RST38h | So, folks, all in SF, prepared for tomorrow? | 19:25 |
| lcuk | ieatlint, for shame. | 19:25 |
| lcuk | n900 has a magic wand slot! | 19:25 |
| iekku | :D | 19:25 |
| ieatlint | hmmm, i do have that on me then | 19:25 |
| lbt | hey Jaffa :) | 19:26 |
| *** jpetersen has quit IRC | 19:26 | |
| ieatlint | is the person in the front right on irc in here? | 19:27 |
| *** Guest46251 has quit IRC | 19:27 | |
| timsamoff | lcuk: I didn't know it was for a "wand," but I slept very well after I found it. | 19:27 |
| ieatlint | cause i'm the guy directly behind you | 19:27 |
| *** foolano has joined #meego | 19:27 | |
| lcuk | timsamoff, narwhal docking port | 19:28 |
| alterego | BAGEL FIGHT! | 19:28 |
| *** foolano has quit IRC | 19:28 | |
| timsamoff | lcuk, if the unicorn doesn't run off with it first. | 19:28 |
| ieatlint | people should avoid the urge to scream profanitiies in #meego-sdk right now | 19:28 |
| lcuk | lol timsamoff | 19:28 |
| *** foolano has joined #meego | 19:28 | |
| lcuk | that should be covered by warranty | 19:28 |
| *** Ronksu has quit IRC | 19:29 | |
| *** npm_netbook1 has joined #meego | 19:29 | |
| RST38h | ieatlint: what is with meego sdk? | 19:29 |
| timsamoff | I want to see what Jaffa's power is... If Jaffa were a superhero, he would be... | 19:29 |
| ieatlint | the channel was on the projector for a min | 19:29 |
| *** DawnFoster has joined #meego | 19:29 | |
| RST38h | Wait, has the conference strted already? | 19:30 |
| ieatlint | conference warm-up sessions | 19:30 |
| lcuk | timsamoff, rich tea biscuit dunker saver - he would dash into the room with a sieve and catch all the bits | 19:30 |
| RST38h | Ah | 19:30 |
| ieatlint | currently a intel appup event | 19:30 |
| Jay_BEE | <--- in rooms F & G (next door to rooms D & E) | 19:30 |
| *** billyjam has joined #meego | 19:30 | |
| TSCHAKeee | I wish I was there, but I've blown my travel budget literally dating and having great sex. | 19:30 |
| *** sheepbat has quit IRC | 19:30 | |
| Jaffa | ieatlint: The one who asked about root install? That's lbt | 19:31 |
| * timsamoff lol | 19:31 | |
| dm8tbr | TSCHAKeee: at least you got something in return ;) | 19:31 |
| ieatlint | yes, we've introduced ourselves :) | 19:31 |
| lbt | Jaffa: we've met now :) | 19:31 |
| Jaffa | TSCHAKeee: Get married. It's cheaper. But with less sex | 19:31 |
| ieatlint | we should do lunch or something | 19:31 |
| lcuk | TSCHAKeee, at the same time, or do you alternate nights? | 19:31 |
| Jay_BEE | heh. | 19:31 |
| *** pixelgeek has quit IRC | 19:31 | |
| lbt | how come my install fails? | 19:31 |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: i've been bouncing back and forth between here (boston) and Ireland | 19:31 |
| *** Guest46251 has joined #meego | 19:31 | |
| TSCHAKeee | luck: for the last three months | 19:31 |
| lbt | ./meego-sdk-installer-online-20110519 ? | 19:31 |
| TSCHAKeee | dating a wonderful woman | 19:31 |
| *** Ronksu has joined #meego | 19:32 | |
| ieatlint | what error do you get? | 19:32 |
| TSCHAKeee | staying there roughly two weeks out of the month. | 19:32 |
| TSCHAKeee | each pass. | 19:32 |
| lbt | so is this where we organise group heckles for Bob then ? | 19:32 |
| *** sheepbat has joined #meego | 19:33 | |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 19:33 |
| lcuk | lbt, is there a local sdk downloader available? | 19:33 |
| timsamoff | lbt, would there be a countdown here on IRC or something? ;) | 19:33 |
| lcuk | or cd key etc | 19:33 |
| lbt | lcuk: I brought a copy ... was going to suggest a usb sharing system | 19:33 |
| lcuk | I am guessing a room full of people trying to download 500mb+ would be a bit taxing on the connection | 19:33 |
| lbt | timsamoff: we need a question | 19:34 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i looked for a meego sdk offline download; there doesn't seem to be any for 1.2 | 19:34 |
| lcuk | lbt, but your sdk is the online version (25mb or so) | 19:34 |
| lbt | oh well | 19:34 |
| timsamoff | lbt: What does SDK stand for? :p | 19:34 |
| lbt | timsamoff: heh ... like it | 19:34 |
| Jay_BEE | Sam, David, Ken | 19:35 |
| Jay_BEE | ... | 19:35 |
| ieatlint | shiny donkey kong | 19:35 |
| * RST38h switches to #meego, as there appears to be more activity here =) | 19:35 | |
| ali1234 | some dude's koala | 19:35 |
| TSCHAKeee | see that meteor? that's the joke careening into a crater. | 19:35 |
| timsamoff | lbt: either that, or: What does "ftw" stand for again? | 19:35 |
| Jay_BEE | fog the windows! | 19:36 |
| lcuk | earlier on timeless mentioned that irc was being projected somewhere | 19:36 |
| ieatlint | they're handing out free windows licences here | 19:36 |
| ieatlint | it's going to be awesome | 19:36 |
| RST38h | OMG | 19:36 |
| RST38h | I am sure people areimpressed | 19:37 |
| timsamoff | lcuk: In this session... But, just prior to the session. Not during. | 19:37 |
| lcuk | ieatlint, single or double glazed? | 19:37 |
| * timsamoff means in "his" session. | 19:37 | |
| ieatlint | i'm not kidding | 19:37 |
| lcuk | lol timsamoff | 19:37 |
| ieatlint | when you get your tablet, it'll have a windows licence with it | 19:37 |
| lcuk | ta | 19:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | ieatlint: that is just... WTF? | 19:37 |
| *** mpoirier has joined #meego | 19:38 | |
| lcuk | ieatlint, last time I was given a Windows 7 license, it was attached to some kind of lenovo dongle | 19:38 |
| ieatlint | they just ordered a bunch from exopc, and then put meego on them, so there's a windows cd key sticker on the back | 19:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | these tablet designs originally weren't designed to run Windows... | 19:38 |
| ieatlint | TSCHAKeee: they were actually | 19:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | I guess, after Menlow/Moorestown, Microsoft felt all butt hurt. | 19:38 |
| ieatlint | the wetab used the hardware design from exopc, not the other way around | 19:38 |
| *** jpetersen has joined #meego | 19:38 | |
| alterego | I heard the HDMI drivers for the exo doesn't work. | 19:39 |
| * TSCHAKeee wants an eXoPC :( | 19:39 | |
| * mikeleib hasn't gotten them to werk | 19:39 | |
| TSCHAKeee | can someone grab one for me? :) please? | 19:39 |
| * mikeleib had hoped to present from exopc, but not looking likely | 19:39 | |
| RST38h | Menlow stands for the 2008 Centrino platform | 19:41 |
| mikeleib | umm.. I don't think so | 19:41 |
| RST38h | Sorry, no Centrino but obviously 2008 | 19:42 |
| mikeleib | ohwait.. it seemed to have been once called centrino atom | 19:42 |
| RST38h | Yes, but the name did not stick :) | 19:42 |
| mikeleib | anyway.. it's an atom with a specific chipset. It was the predecessor to moorestown | 19:42 |
| lcuk | are there decent stands for the exopc? | 19:43 |
| lcuk | I could not use one without one, the idepad is awesome in that regard | 19:43 |
| *** andre__ has joined #meego | 19:43 | |
| lcuk | ideapad^ | 19:43 |
| * mikeleib has some little folding jobber that works ok | 19:43 | |
| ieatlint | lcuk: there is an official stand | 19:43 |
| ieatlint | we may be getting them with the tablets today | 19:44 |
| lcuk | ieatlint, ooOOOO | 19:44 |
| lcuk | brb | 19:44 |
| ieatlint | they did this event at GDC, two sessions like today, and inexplicably one of the sessions they gave out stands and the other session they didn't | 19:44 |
| mikeleib | the accessory those things really need is a usb keyboard | 19:44 |
| ieatlint | yes, usb keyboard is at times essential | 19:45 |
| ieatlint | especially for meego 1.2 | 19:45 |
| mikeleib | for example, in installing meego | 19:45 |
| mikeleib | or running emacs | 19:45 |
| alterego | Can't wait to use malik on Maliit | 19:45 |
| alterego | Eh? | 19:45 |
| alterego | Maliit on it .. | 19:45 |
| * mikeleib wonders if the appropriate bridge will work for emacs | 19:45 | |
| mikeleib | that would be slick | 19:45 |
| lbt | looks like a dependency on libpng12 or something | 19:46 |
| ieatlint | is he about to give out his ip after telling everyone his root password? | 19:46 |
| ieatlint | lbt: that's a classic issue with qt | 19:47 |
| ieatlint | qt requires libpng12, but current libpng is around 1.4+ | 19:47 |
| lbt | looking for a w/around | 19:47 |
| alterego | Heh | 19:47 |
| lbt | http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/4947 ... :( | 19:47 |
| ieatlint | typically linux distros end up keeping a lib of 1.2 around just for qt i believe | 19:47 |
| lbt | I just popped in libpng12-dev to see if needs that ... seems odd though... error is : | 19:48 |
| lbt | Error during installation process(com.meego.sdk.pm): | 19:48 |
| lbt | Execution failed (Unexpected exit code: 127): "/home/david/.config/meego.com/sdk/pm/config_repo" | 19:48 |
| ieatlint | libpng12 also is not binary compatible with 1.4 (predictably), so you will definitely need to get a version of libpng12 installed | 19:48 |
| lcuk | ieatlint, any recent for not using the latest that you know of? | 19:52 |
| alterego | I think I've drunk my weight in coffee. | 19:52 |
| ieatlint | not sure what you're asking | 19:52 |
| ieatlint | you mean for the libpng issue? | 19:52 |
| lcuk | yea | 19:53 |
| ieatlint | i've been told that compiling qt yourself against libpng14 solves this | 19:53 |
| ieatlint | which i believe i've confirmed without knowing it via gentoo linux | 19:53 |
| *** ware has quit IRC | 19:53 | |
| ieatlint | but if you're using the qt sdk, or the meego sdk, then you're relying on prebuilt qt, and nokia in their infinite wisdom has decided libpng12 is AWESOME | 19:53 |
| *** blauzahl has joined #meego | 19:53 | |
| * Jaffa moans that despite the stuff about "install an SDK beforehand", there was an update n May 19th which included the targets stuff. Grr/mutter/moan. | 19:54 | |
| * lbt being dim ... assumed that the file in .config/ was the damned config file... not a script | 19:54 | |
| alterego | Jay_BEE: are you not installing it now like me? ;) | 19:55 |
| alterego | s/Jay_BEE/JAffa/ | 19:55 |
| infobot | alterego meant: JAffa: are you not installing it now like me? ;) | 19:55 |
| Jay_BEE | heh. | 19:55 |
| GAN900 | Couch surfing: if you end up with a snail on the end of your laptop power adaptor, don't be surprised. | 19:55 |
| alterego | Heh | 19:56 |
| Jaffa | alterego: I am installing it now, but had been self-congratulating myself on being prepared. | 19:56 |
| alterego | :) | 19:56 |
| alterego | Well, I already have _my_ MeeGo SDK installed ;) | 19:56 |
| alterego | But I'm a bit above all of the material so far, as I think a lot of us are ; | 19:56 |
| Jaffa | An SDK lets you develop software. Who knew? :) | 19:57 |
| Jaffa | It's like a kit. | 19:57 |
| alterego | Yeah, for like, software development or something. | 19:57 |
| * timsamoff likes flying kits... No, wait... | 19:58 | |
| blauzahl | are you all at the meego conference? is there anything going on yet? | 19:58 |
| ieatlint | i'm content with the qt sdk for now… | 19:58 |
| lbt | anyone know where the installer log lives? | 19:58 |
| CosmoHill | ooo, they released the core on it;s own | 19:58 |
| *** DawnFoster has quit IRC | 19:58 | |
| ieatlint | blauzahl: yeah, they announced the nokia n950 and gave each of us one | 19:58 |
| blauzahl | ieatlint: oh, did they run out? | 19:59 |
| * blauzahl didn't see a schedule for today, other than the intel session | 19:59 | |
| alterego | I just got booted off of the etherpad. | 19:59 |
| ieatlint | yeah, and the intel thing is fully booked now | 19:59 |
| blauzahl | oh, i'm already registered for it | 19:59 |
| *** eti has joined #meego | 19:59 | |
| blauzahl | i'm just wondering if i should go over RIGHT NOW, or stick to my original plan of waiting till after lunch | 20:00 |
| GAN900 | blauzahl, same question here. *g* | 20:00 |
| blauzahl | i'll give someone a kde sticker if you go ask :) | 20:01 |
| *** thiago has quit IRC | 20:01 | |
| Jaffa | blauzahl: You have an allocated session. You turn up for that one. | 20:01 |
| Jay_BEE | there are 2 separate sessions... one at 9a and the other at 2p | 20:01 |
| blauzahl | oh, so did they give one out at the 9am one then? | 20:01 |
| alterego | There's quite a few people ina the after lunch session too. | 20:02 |
| blauzahl | i was wondering if the "half hour registration" meant we might get something :) | 20:02 |
| Jaffa | blauzahl: There's a specific point in the session at which they are handed out. Not yet. | 20:02 |
| Jay_BEE | the one which started at 9am is still in-session | 20:02 |
| Jay_BEE | until 12p | 20:02 |
| blauzahl | ok, but that's where they are being handed out? excellent | 20:02 |
| blauzahl | (in the session, i mean) | 20:03 |
| ieatlint | everyone in here is likely busy until this session ends around 12-12:30 | 20:03 |
| Sage_ | Ayone up for a late breakfast? | 20:04 |
| blauzahl | so you are at the morning intel session atm then? | 20:04 |
| wmarone_ | hmm | 20:05 |
| Jaffa | blauzahl: A few of us are, yup | 20:06 |
| ieatlint | yeah, seemingly ~6 or so of us | 20:06 |
| blauzahl | well, who wants to get up before 9am? :) | 20:07 |
| blauzahl | but the only official stuff happening today are those two sessions? | 20:07 |
| Jaffa | blauzahl: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011#MeeGo_Conference_Warm-Up | 20:08 |
| ieatlint | nah, there's some other stuff | 20:08 |
| blauzahl | perfect, thanks! | 20:08 |
| ieatlint | i'm getting paid to be here though, that's why i got up at 8am on a sunday | 20:08 |
| blauzahl | wow, a trebuchet. those are hard to build | 20:09 |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 20:09 | |
| Jaffa | blauzahl: Indeed, ask lbt... | 20:10 |
| Jaffa | :) | 20:10 |
| lbt | blauzahl: worth the effort though | 20:10 |
| blauzahl | one hour to build one? is that possible? | 20:10 |
| lbt | it fired ... but the launch basket didn't hold the bird | 20:10 |
| *** DawnFoster has joined #meego | 20:11 | |
| * lbt thought the rail gun shoulda won though | 20:11 | |
| timsamoff | lbt's probably had more torque than anyone's, though. | 20:11 |
| blauzahl | i hope there's photos | 20:12 |
| lbt | yeah ... it had some kick! | 20:12 |
| lbt | and it used wooden nails too | 20:12 |
| lbt | not just glue | 20:12 |
| timsamoff | True, but ours used glue sticks for pivot-points. | 20:13 |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 20:13 | |
| lbt | Q: How do I install the damned SDK | 20:13 |
| lbt | timsamoff: nice idea | 20:13 |
| ieatlint | A: just put the meego netbook image into a virtual machine and develop via it ;) | 20:14 |
| blauzahl | glue sticks for pivot points sounds like it would break... | 20:14 |
| blauzahl | well, ok, i'll see you all after lunch then :) | 20:14 |
| *** swc|666 has joined #meego | 20:15 | |
| timsamoff | Surprisingly, everyone built pretty solid structures. | 20:15 |
| Jaffa | alterego: timsamoff: Definitely fancy doing something exploratory this afternoon. Maybe walk from the hotel round to Fisherman's Wharf and then back up to the city center | 20:15 |
| GAN900 | Waiting out a snail to charge your laptop . . . http://www.flickr.com/photos/generalantilles/5746848777/ | 20:18 |
| CosmoHill | wtf | 20:18 |
| timsamoff | Jaffa: Sounds good. | 20:18 |
| blauzahl | if you look on google maps, it shows restraunts and has links to yelp reviews | 20:18 |
| *** TheXception|off is now known as TheXception | 20:18 | |
| *** pcacjr_ has quit IRC | 20:19 | |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, I'm in on that. About what time? | 20:19 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: This finishes about 12:30. So, say, 1pm in the atrium or hacker lounge? | 20:20 |
| *** thiago has joined #meego | 20:21 | |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 20:22 | |
| GAN900 | OK | 20:22 |
| *** MarcA-N_ has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** billyjam has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** MarcA-N_ is now known as MarcA-N | 20:23 | |
| *** kraiskil has joined #meego | 20:24 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 20:25 | |
| *** blauzahl has quit IRC | 20:25 | |
| *** Ans5i has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** andre__ has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** War2 has quit IRC | 20:26 | |
| *** clbr has joined #meego | 20:26 | |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** kW has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** beford has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 20:27 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| CosmoHill | I just found a text file from when we took the vote for the community OBS URL | 20:28 |
| alterego | Sounds great | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | of the 21 suggestions, 5 came from texrat | 20:28 |
| *** walhava has joined #meego | 20:28 | |
| *** Vudentz has joined #meego | 20:29 | |
| *** Vudentz is now known as vudentz | 20:29 | |
| *** vudentz has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
| alterego | Jaffa: ^ | 20:29 |
| * timsamoff thinks that should just change the darn thing to Q.T. It would save a whole lot of confusion... | 20:30 | |
| *** Vudentz has joined #meego | 20:31 | |
| *** Vudentz is now known as vudentz | 20:31 | |
| *** vudentz has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
| alterego | Sage_: went to a nice dinner in townTHey're pretty much interchangable really ;) | 20:31 |
| *** akeripper has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
| *** Ans5i has joined #meego | 20:32 | |
| *** andredieb has quit IRC | 20:32 | |
| *** maligor has joined #meego | 20:33 | |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 20:33 | |
| ieatlint | I have time after this session… need to be back at the hotel at 4pm, but if you guys want to take a trip around, I'd enjoy going with and can help you guys figure out how to get from point a to b | 20:33 |
| *** Vudentz has joined #meego | 20:33 | |
| *** Vudentz has quit IRC | 20:34 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 20:34 | |
| *** Vudentz has joined #meego | 20:35 | |
| *** slonopotamus has joined #meego | 20:36 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 20:36 | |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 20:37 | |
| *** slonopotamus has quit IRC | 20:39 | |
| Jaffa | ieatlint: Happy to have more ppl, but I know (roughly) my way round SF. JavaOne a couple too many times :-) | 20:39 |
| * CosmoHill wonders if he should use RAID 4 or 5 | 20:39 | |
| *** mer_ge has quit IRC | 20:39 | |
| ieatlint | haha, fair enough | 20:39 |
| *** slonopotamus has joined #meego | 20:39 | |
| *** npm_netbook1 has quit IRC | 20:39 | |
| *** terietor has joined #meego | 20:39 | |
| *** kW_ has joined #meego | 20:41 | |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 20:41 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 20:42 | |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 20:43 | |
| *** fcn has joined #meego | 20:44 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 20:44 | |
| *** kW has quit IRC | 20:44 | |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 20:44 | |
| fcn | I see two versions for download. Is the only difference between those two one has chrome and the other doesn't? | 20:46 |
| ieatlint | huh, didn't realize that meego used madde | 20:46 |
| ieatlint | nice | 20:46 |
| timsamoff | I have a MeeGo UX question... It was cool to see the "auto" back button implementation on the app demo during the last guys talk, but... What about the "Next Page" buttons? Is that left up to the developer? Or are there some sort of defined guidelines for them? I'm asking, because that particular app didn't make me think so. | 20:47 |
| timsamoff | Anyone know? | 20:47 |
| lcuk | timsamoff, I have noticed quite many ux issues | 20:47 |
| lcuk | and in the tablet ux I believe there is a hwkey that does it | 20:47 |
| timsamoff | lcuk, hmmm... Weird. But no virtual button docs? | 20:48 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 20:48 | |
| *** kW_ has quit IRC | 20:49 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 20:49 | |
| *** mtux_ has joined #meego | 20:49 | |
| Jaffa | MeeGo Compliance is an open process. | 20:49 |
| Jaffa | Arguable. | 20:50 |
| ieatlint | i just hope it's less painful than the ovi store | 20:50 |
| timsamoff | Jaffa, and I'll believe the "future proofing" when I see it. | 20:50 |
| *** thp has joined #meego | 20:51 | |
| lcuk | qt future proofing would be: taking earlier qt apps from (for instance) maemo and having them just work | 20:51 |
| *** mtux has quit IRC | 20:51 | |
| lcuk | on now systems | 20:51 |
| timsamoff | Right, but... | 20:51 |
| timsamoff | ... | 20:51 |
| mikhas | lcuk, cheap shot | 20:52 |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 20:52 | |
| lcuk | timsamoff, http://www.bricklin.com/visicalc.htm | 20:52 |
| ieatlint | certain qt apps for maemo might work, but as the qt libs for maemo are not standard, it may not | 20:52 |
| lcuk | mikhas, why cheap shot? | 20:52 |
| lcuk | ieatlint, simpler, standard qt then | 20:53 |
| timsamoff | :) | 20:53 |
| ieatlint | and then there are a few maemo specific qt stuffs, like their toasting api | 20:53 |
| lcuk | ieatlint, of course | 20:53 |
| lcuk | venemo knows more than most actually | 20:53 |
| lcuk | his app is fully usable and builds for anything n8x0 up | 20:53 |
| kahless | hey ho, quick question :) where can i access my irc within meego (its connected, but i cant find any way to join a channel and/or chat) | 20:53 |
| ieatlint | cool | 20:53 |
| lcuk | and the other main distros he tests against | 20:53 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i'm much more of a user of the sdks than anything higher up | 20:53 |
| *** kW_ has joined #meego | 20:54 | |
| mikhas | lcuk, was there ever a real promise that classic Qt apps would "just work"? | 20:54 |
| lcuk | "code once, deploy anywhere" | 20:54 |
| lcuk | yes | 20:54 |
| mikhas | wasn't the whole discussion since 2009 that you "only need to rewrite the UI for each form factor"? | 20:54 |
| mikhas | I remember such talks from Amsterdam at least ... | 20:55 |
| timsamoff | mikhas, definitely, yes. That was the "idea." | 20:55 |
| mikhas | and now we realize this idea is bad? | 20:55 |
| lcuk | I know on the whole if you stick to core unchanged apis it does work | 20:55 |
| berndhs | mikhas: yes but then there have been things like qt-components or MTF that only exist on 1 version of 1 platform | 20:55 |
| *** mwichmann has joined #meego | 20:56 | |
| TSCHAKeee | basically dui/MTF totally ruined that one | 20:57 |
| TSCHAKeee | and I still wonder, WHAT ABOUT HARMATTAN? | 20:57 |
| mikhas | hah yes, blame it on us ;-) | 20:57 |
| TSCHAKeee | there is a phone about to come out withi t | 20:57 |
| TSCHAKeee | what the hell API are we supposed to use? | 20:57 |
| * mikhas puts on asbestos-proof MTF hat | 20:57 | |
| TSCHAKeee | this is a legitimate concern, which may very well wind up neutering an otherwise awesome phone | 20:57 |
| TSCHAKeee | castrating | 20:58 |
| TSCHAKeee | whatever, you get thei dea. | 20:58 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 20:58 | |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 20:58 | |
| *** DawnFoster has left #meego | 20:58 | |
| TSCHAKeee | is this question going to be answered at this conference? | 20:58 |
| TSCHAKeee | I sure as hell hope so. | 20:58 |
| TSCHAKeee | should be question #1 answered. | 20:58 |
| berndhs | the present situation is that there is no half-way common API for devices that actually exist | 20:58 |
| timsamoff | Depending on whom you choose to ask... | 20:58 |
| TSCHAKeee | berndhs: yes, this is disasterous | 20:59 |
| Jaffa | TSCHAKeee: QML using Qt Quick Components for Harmattan. QML using MeeGo Components for MeeGo Tablet | 20:59 |
| *** eti has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| TSCHAKeee | Jaffa: and next week? | 20:59 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 20:59 |
| Jaffa | TSCHAKeee: With vivainio and others saying that MeeGo Components should/will build on top of Qt Quick Components. | 20:59 |
| timsamoff | Jaffa, except that the UI/UX will be slightly different... Which is annoyingly bad. | 20:59 |
| Jaffa | Absolutely | 21:00 |
| mikhas | TSCHAKeee, that's the whole point, isn't it? All promises so far didn't live very long. | 21:00 |
| *** akk has quit IRC | 21:00 | |
| TSCHAKeee | mikhas: yes, and that has hurt this platform more than anything else. | 21:00 |
| TSCHAKeee | we don't know what the hell we're supposed to use | 21:00 |
| mikhas | and to answer your question: tomorrow it's HTML5 | 21:00 |
| mikhas | (yes, I actually do believe that) | 21:00 |
| TSCHAKeee | mikhas: and yes, I understand the hurt... I've been on your side of the table before. | 21:01 |
| *** dwmw2_gone_ has joined #meego | 21:01 | |
| berndhs | yeah and then everything will be web-apps and nothing runs on the devices except 1 browser | 21:01 |
| TSCHAKeee | in my case, when I made the mistake, I cost myself my company. | 21:01 |
| Jaffa | Ouch | 21:01 |
| TSCHAKeee | the solution is to present a single face to development, like everybody else has. | 21:03 |
| TSCHAKeee | no matter how much fudging you have to do underneath. | 21:03 |
| TSCHAKeee | purists don't last long in the real world. | 21:03 |
| mikhas | yup | 21:03 |
| TSCHAKeee | and with that.. | 21:03 |
| alterego | There has been an eruption in iceland that might effect uk airspace :S | 21:04 |
| * TSCHAKeee hugs mikhas, all you guys have worked so hard. | 21:04 | |
| thiago | yeah, saw that | 21:04 |
| *** mr_cecil has joined #meego | 21:04 | |
| berndhs | several people might be stuck in the americas :) | 21:04 |
| Jaffa | "What does Qt and QML stand for?" | 21:04 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 21:04 | |
| fcn | is there any other difference between version which includes chrome and version that doesn't? | 21:04 |
| thiago | Qt has no expansion, it's not an acronym | 21:04 |
| ieatlint | someone ask what qt declarative is now | 21:04 |
| thiago | QML is Qt Metaobject Language | 21:04 |
| thiago | I prefer "Qt Magic Language" | 21:05 |
| Jaffa | thiago: I know this. This bloke here is asking silly questions. Previously "What does GCC stand for?" | 21:05 |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 21:05 | |
| Jaffa | fcn: One is Chrome. The other is Chromium. | 21:05 |
| *** mr_cecil has quit IRC | 21:05 | |
| ieatlint | yes, this guy also spilled coffee on me | 21:05 |
| *** n1 has joined #meego | 21:05 | |
| *** terietor has quit IRC | 21:05 | |
| fcn | Jaffa: thanks. and that's all, huh? | 21:06 |
| ieatlint | he is "that guy" for this session. | 21:06 |
| ieatlint | he also asked if this would work on the iphone... | 21:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | Jaffa: at least he didn't ask what GNU stands for | 21:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 21:07 |
| alterego | ieatlint: hahah :P | 21:07 |
| Jaffa | TSCHAKeee: Heh | 21:07 |
| Jaffa | fcn: Yup, AFAIK | 21:07 |
| alterego | Yeah, he's a fun one. | 21:07 |
| fcn | Jaffa: Thanks again. | 21:07 |
| merlin1991 | sounds like you all have great fun sniggering whenever he asks a question | 21:07 |
| timsamoff | If asked, he'd say: "I saw a sign that said 'MeeGo,' so I went." | 21:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | isn't somebody working on a port of Qt to iOS? | 21:08 |
| ieatlint | he was here yesterday at the intro to qt session too | 21:08 |
| timsamoff | ieatlint: I was SO annoyed yesterday. | 21:08 |
| *** sheepbat has quit IRC | 21:08 | |
| ieatlint | were you at the intro to qt session yesterday? | 21:08 |
| *** balor_ has quit IRC | 21:08 | |
| timsamoff | Yep. | 21:08 |
| ieatlint | oh .. hi … i was the guy with the usb keys | 21:09 |
| Jay_BEE | shutting down the lappy | 21:09 |
| *** Jay_BEE has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| timsamoff | Hehe. Cool. He wanted one. ;) | 21:09 |
| ieatlint | what upset you so much yesterday? constructive criticism of the presentation would be welcome :) | 21:09 |
| *** Jade has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
| ieatlint | oh, you mean he did… yeah.. he left at noon thank god | 21:10 |
| Jaffa | ieatlint: I think it was "that guy" | 21:10 |
| timsamoff | No no no... By the guy in the front walking around asking for the USB stick during the talk. That's all. | 21:10 |
| ieatlint | yeah, he came up to me and told me that it "didn't work" at the start of this session | 21:10 |
| ieatlint | then spilled coffee on me | 21:10 |
| *** timeless has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
| Jaffa | ieatlint: Did you throw him oout? | 21:11 |
| * timsamoff cringes. | 21:11 | |
| TSCHAKeee | wow, sounds like grade A douche. | 21:11 |
| ieatlint | i don't have this magic ejection ability i'm afraid | 21:11 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| * Jaffa misread that. | 21:11 | |
| ieatlint | yeah, he quickly said "err, uh, sorry" and then walked away quickly as i tried to dry my shirt with napkins | 21:12 |
| *** andre__ has joined #meego | 21:12 | |
| timsamoff | andre__ is confused. | 21:12 |
| ieatlint | i'm not sure which i prefer, coffee spilled on me, or dealing with him asking questions next to me | 21:12 |
| ieatlint | i may have gotten the better end of the deal | 21:12 |
| andre__ | timsamoff, is he? | 21:12 |
| timsamoff | He appears to be. :p | 21:12 |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 21:13 | |
| *** mwichmann has quit IRC | 21:13 | |
| andre__ | timsamoff, it's the usual level of confusion that I need | 21:13 |
| timsamoff | ;) | 21:13 |
| ieatlint | how does the lgpl work with QML? | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | ieatlint: case law could be python i guess | 21:14 |
| ieatlint | yeah, that would make sense | 21:15 |
| mikeleib | imports are like linking, AFAIK | 21:15 |
| ieatlint | will look into that out of curiosity at some point | 21:15 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps|holiday: Are you still on holiday? :) | 21:15 |
| Jaffa | "What is the advantage of MeeGo?" | 21:15 |
| merlin1991 | ouch | 21:15 |
| mikhas | Jaffa, valid question ;-) | 21:16 |
| mikeleib | it's cute mascots, obviously ;) | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | Jaffa: officially, until tomorrow | 21:16 |
| ieatlint | it's a valid question, but the wrong venue, and the guy asking is not asking the question you think he is | 21:16 |
| timsamoff | I think I might look into using iOS to develop for MeeGo devices... At this point, the deployment would work just the same, right? :p | 21:16 |
| ieatlint | answering it for him is like answering someone at the local mobile phone shop when they ask what the difference between android and iphone is | 21:17 |
| Jaffa | mikhas: It's a wonderful question, given that the "openness" USP is... more marketing. Not one for this session, perhaps | 21:17 |
| clbr | I yesterday installed the current meego tablet UX release on the exopc tablet and today I'm having problems with updating the zypper repos. are there any recent changes in download.meego.com setup? | 21:18 |
| *** vblazquez has quit IRC | 21:18 | |
| clbr | already changed the baseurls to http://download.meego.com/MeeGo/snapshots/stable/1.2.0/latest/repos/oss/* but still getting errors | 21:19 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 21:19 | |
| *** zehjotkah has joined #meego | 21:20 | |
| zehjotkah | hi guys | 21:20 |
| *** beford has quit IRC | 21:20 | |
| Stskeeps|holiday | morn | 21:20 |
| *** vblazquez has joined #meego | 21:21 | |
| zehjotkah | how are you carsten, over there in the hackers lounge? | 21:22 |
| *** lcukn900 has joined #meego | 21:23 | |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 21:24 | |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 21:26 | |
| * timsamoff shakes head... | 21:26 | |
| * lcukn900 shakes n900 | 21:27 | |
| ieatlint | just treat it as comical, and feel sorry for the presenter | 21:27 |
| timsamoff | Yes. I would not want to be up there. | 21:27 |
| *** foolano has quit IRC | 21:27 | |
| * Jaffa gets pointed at #meegoconf as another IRC channel | 21:29 | |
| *** slonopotamus has quit IRC | 21:29 | |
| *** Diod has joined #meego | 21:32 | |
| *** beford has joined #meego | 21:32 | |
| Jaffa | If he asks "what does PNG stand for?"... | 21:33 |
| ieatlint | haha | 21:33 |
| timsamoff | I think I might be able to hit him with a crumpled up napkin from here. | 21:33 |
| ieatlint | i'm tempted to ask now | 21:33 |
| timsamoff | Never mind. | 21:33 |
| timsamoff | What's HTML? | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | What is the meaning of life? | 21:34 |
| ieatlint | ask how this integrates with facebook now | 21:34 |
| *** balor_ has joined #meego | 21:34 | |
| timsamoff | If anyone's going to find an answer to the meaning of life, it will be this guy. | 21:34 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| vldcnst | what event are you guys trolling? | 21:35 |
| Jaffa | "Can I upload Facebook's index.html to create an offline Facebook HTML5 application?" | 21:35 |
| *** siddvicious has joined #meego | 21:35 | |
| *** mer_ge has joined #meego | 21:35 | |
| timsamoff | Jaffa lmao. | 21:35 |
| *** lynxis has joined #meego | 21:35 | |
| Jaffa | vldcnst: We're not trolling the session, the guy is. | 21:35 |
| vldcnst | attending* | 21:35 |
| *** lbt has joined #meego | 21:36 | |
| ieatlint | trolling requires intent… if this guy is actually trolling, i applaud him | 21:36 |
| *** thiagoss has joined #meego | 21:36 | |
| *** RodrigoPadula has quit IRC | 21:36 | |
| ieatlint | oooh, he's getting so close to asking what png stands for | 21:36 |
| ieatlint | HAHA | 21:36 |
| *** thiagoss has left #meego | 21:36 | |
| timsamoff | YES! | 21:36 |
| timsamoff | FTW! | 21:36 |
| Jaffa | Do I win? | 21:36 |
| timsamoff | My day has been made. We've all won. | 21:37 |
| ieatlint | yes, you win so much | 21:37 |
| beford | :> | 21:37 |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 21:37 | |
| lcukn900 | who asked and who giggled most? | 21:37 |
| Jaffa | The guy asked. | 21:38 |
| lcukn900 | who guy? | 21:38 |
| Jaffa | I think the whole room growned. | 21:38 |
| timsamoff | THE guy. | 21:38 |
| Jaffa | s/own/oan/ | 21:38 |
| infobot | Jaffa meant: I think the whole room groaned. | 21:38 |
| * lcukn900 does not have context | 21:38 | |
| Jaffa | lcukn900: There's a guy in the AppUp session asking about every little thing. Every time there's a TLA, he asks what it means. | 21:38 |
| ieatlint | there's "that guy" here who keeps asking inane questions and has no idea what is going on | 21:38 |
| Jaffa | GCC, RPM, PNG, ... | 21:39 |
| lcukn900 | lol | 21:39 |
| *** timeless_xchat has joined #meego | 21:39 | |
| lcukn900 | ask what lol means :D | 21:39 |
| ShadowJK | maybe he should reply with a "STFU" | 21:39 |
| Jaffa | It isn't entirely clear he knows anything about MeeGo. | 21:39 |
| timeless_xchat | mikhas/thp | 21:39 |
| timeless_xchat | ping | 21:39 |
| ieatlint | lmgtfy.com needs to appear on the projector | 21:39 |
| Jaffa | ieatlint: lol | 21:40 |
| timsamoff | Or, he should name his app name: Stop asking dumb questions | 21:40 |
| ShadowJK | this sounds like a blast | 21:40 |
| Jaffa | :) | 21:41 |
| Jaffa | Someone should've suggested the tooltip is "What is Steve's Org stand for?" | 21:41 |
| mikhas | timeless_xchat, pong | 21:42 |
| timsamoff | WISOSF? | 21:42 |
| timeless_xchat | where are you? i'd like to maybe think about my bag | 21:43 |
| mikhas | timeless_xchat, will pick you up in hackerspace | 21:45 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 21:45 | |
| ieatlint | think we'll get the "what's msi?" question? | 21:46 |
| *** Zorry has quit IRC | 21:47 | |
| lcuk | Jaffa, there is a point in his observations though, it would be handy on first use of specific ones to actually preempt those sorts of questions | 21:49 |
| lcuk | it was like the first meego-meetings TSG ones, where people just started without introducing themselves | 21:49 |
| lcuk | (TSG == technical steering group) btw | 21:50 |
| lcuk | (BTW == by the way) ;) | 21:50 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: This is a developer talk on targetting your apps to AppUp. An assumption that you know what a PNG file is... | 21:50 |
| *** TheManiac has joined #meego | 21:50 | |
| Jaffa | lcuk: LCUK == ????! | 21:50 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, no it isn't - appup targets more than meego | 21:50 |
| *** TheManiac has left #meego | 21:50 | |
| lcuk | liquid coooled in the uk | 21:50 |
| lcuk | united kingdom :P | 21:51 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: And this is a talk about targetting MeeGo with AppUp :-p | 21:51 |
| timsamoff | Hahahaha. | 21:51 |
| ieatlint | oh, i just assumed it was some dyslexic spelling of luck | 21:51 |
| wmarone_ | ok, time to head into SF | 21:51 |
| *** sheepbat has joined #meego | 21:51 | |
| lcuk | ieatlint, no, longtime slashdot nickname is liquidcoooled :) | 21:51 |
| ieatlint | someone ask quickly what "meego" stands for | 21:51 |
| *** tim___ has joined #meego | 21:51 | |
| lcuk | and irc needs shorter | 21:51 |
| tim___ | hello | 21:51 |
| lcuk | (internet relay chat) | 21:51 |
| tim___ | is the meego project dead? | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | tim___: no | 21:52 |
| tim___ | ive heard wrong then | 21:52 |
| lcuk | tim___, where did you hear it? | 21:52 |
| tim___ | does meego work on system76 starling netbook? | 21:52 |
| tim___ | i heard it from the linux action show | 21:52 |
| lcuk | from the 1000+ people at the meegoconf? | 21:52 |
| *** n1 has quit IRC | 21:52 | |
| lcuk | tim___, try | 21:53 |
| lcuk | what platform is it | 21:53 |
| tim___ | x86 | 21:53 |
| tim___ | i think | 21:53 |
| lcuk | and graphics card? | 21:53 |
| tim___ | intergrated | 21:54 |
| lcuk | and processor spec, and does it have a 3d accelerator | 21:54 |
| lcuk | and stuff | 21:54 |
| *** newbie007 has joined #meego | 21:54 | |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/Devices | 21:54 |
| lcuk | have a read there about different confirmed/not confirmed devices | 21:54 |
| lcuk | and the kinds of issues | 21:54 |
| tim___ | 1.5 GHZ cpu im not sure if it has a 3d accelorator | 21:54 |
| * lcuk thinkgs we need a checklist for "will XYZ device work with meego" | 21:54 | |
| * tim___ agreed | 21:55 | |
| lcuk | what the hell just happened in #meegoconf? | 21:55 |
| tim___ | at the moment ive got ubuntu 11.04 on the netbook | 21:55 |
| *** kW_ has quit IRC | 21:56 | |
| lcuk | tim___, is it a touchscreen thingie? | 21:56 |
| *** mmeeks has quit IRC | 21:56 | |
| tim___ | no | 21:56 |
| lcuk | just get one of the usb images and see how well it boots | 21:57 |
| lcuk | add to the devices page once confirmed | 21:57 |
| tim___ | if it works | 21:57 |
| lcuk | even if not | 21:58 |
| lcuk | that way, the next person with same device will know | 21:58 |
| lcuk | and perhaps be able to solve it | 21:58 |
| tim___ | cool | 21:58 |
| lcuk | negative confirmation is as useful in diagnosis as positive. | 21:58 |
| tim___ | this is what i love about open source :D | 21:58 |
| newbie007 | I'd like to see this OS on the nook color, seems pretty close | 21:59 |
| lcuk | WOW #meegoconf channel is more popular than the ##sports channel which covers every major sporting event the world over! | 21:59 |
| *** Hq` has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
| lcuk | newbie007, what is the nook color? | 22:01 |
| tim___ | just about to ask the same | 22:01 |
| ieatlint | what does nook stand for? | 22:01 |
| newbie007 | it's a touch screen device, 7 in, ARM based, no keyboard. Comes with android | 22:01 |
| Jaffa | Oh, he's going again. | 22:01 |
| newbie007 | you can boot off an SD card | 22:01 |
| tim___ | yeah that would be cool | 22:02 |
| ieatlint | the "nook" is a e-reader device sold by barnes and noble (book store like like borders) | 22:02 |
| ieatlint | the "nook color" is predictably the color version, which runs android | 22:02 |
| newbie007 | 800mhz on $150 at barnes and noble. or borders? --some book store | 22:02 |
| *** dck\bnc has joined #meego | 22:03 | |
| Stskeeps|holiday | omap36xx | 22:03 |
| *** Hq` has joined #meego | 22:03 | |
| ieatlint | barnes and noble, but sold by other stores (including amazon.com, haha) | 22:03 |
| *** lynxis has quit IRC | 22:03 | |
| GAN900 | Is there a conference map online somewhere? | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | GAN900: checkin bag will contain a nice one | 22:04 |
| ieatlint | http://sanfranciscoregency.hyatt.com/hyatt/images/hotels/sfors/floorplan.pdf | 22:04 |
| ieatlint | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011#Hyatt_Space_details then tells you which rooms for stuffs | 22:05 |
| thp | timeless_xchat: pong | 22:05 |
| GAN900 | Stskeeps|holiday, can I get one of those today? | 22:06 |
| Jaffa | Can one check what one said one's size was for the registration? :) | 22:06 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | GAN900: yes, pre registration | 22:06 |
| ieatlint | registration seemingly opens at 2pm today | 22:07 |
| Jaffa | Ah, medium. | 22:07 |
| *** sheepbat has quit IRC | 22:07 | |
| *** krysc has joined #meego | 22:07 | |
| GAN900 | Just about to hit BART, where's the hacker lounge in the hotel (are the signs apparent)? | 22:08 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | GAN900: go downstairs and yes there are signs | 22:08 |
| timsamoff | You'll find it. | 22:08 |
| thp | GAN900: should be easy to find + there's a meego info desk | 22:08 |
| timsamoff | If not, I know a guy who can ask for you. | 22:08 |
| ieatlint | it's downstairs, one floor below street level | 22:08 |
| ieatlint | the hacker lounge is underneath/behind the stairs that take you down | 22:08 |
| *** clbr has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| ieatlint | try and find an old chinese guy who has some great questions, he's worth meeting | 22:09 |
| *** clbr has joined #meego | 22:09 | |
| krysc | oh yes he is | 22:10 |
| *** mmeeks has joined #meego | 22:10 | |
| *** RedType has joined #meego | 22:10 | |
| tim___ | great unetbootin has crashed :/ | 22:10 |
| kahless | where/how can i chat via irc on meego netbook edition? im connected on the server but cant find a way to join a channel :( | 22:11 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: When you come in at street level, the main atrium of the hotel & check-in is two layers up. The hacker lounge is down a flight of stairs behind the escalators, and the Hacker Lounge is, as ieatlint says, under the stairs. But there's a desk | 22:11 |
| RedType | \/ | 22:11 |
| tim___ | i want to put meego on my n900 but i dont want the tariff to go up because im on contract | 22:11 |
| RedType | kahless: probably /join #channel | 22:11 |
| timsamoff | kahless, you can do it via the terminal. | 22:11 |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, where are we meeting? | 22:11 |
| kahless | timsamoff: no "gui" for that? | 22:11 |
| kahless | RedType: sure, but where? :) | 22:12 |
| timsamoff | No. But, it's not too difficult. | 22:12 |
| ieatlint | this presenter has figured out the game it seems :) | 22:12 |
| * zehjotkah thinks about joining #meegoconf instead of #meego | 22:12 | |
| RedType | just into the text field | 22:12 |
| RedType | unless there isn't one in which case | 22:12 |
| RedType | zehjotkah: then join it :p | 22:12 |
| krysc | join both | 22:12 |
| * zehjotkah is just thinking about it | 22:12 | |
| timeless_xchat | thp: where are you? | 22:13 |
| zehjotkah | :D | 22:13 |
| kahless | RedType: have to test it out, thx :) | 22:13 |
| zehjotkah | applause | 22:13 |
| timsamoff | GAN900 in the Hacker Lounge after the session? | 22:13 |
| krysc | laughter* | 22:13 |
| ieatlint | here comes the intel hardware marketing :) | 22:14 |
| RedType | i use a mac soooo | 22:14 |
| RedType | not much of a choice... ALL HAIL GLORIOUS APPLE... ALL HAIL DEAR LEADER JOBS | 22:14 |
| ieatlint | so you're already on intel, and hey thank you | 22:14 |
| ieatlint | they | 22:15 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: Let's say Hacker Lounge at 1300 | 22:15 |
| krysc | wait, he has a question! | 22:15 |
| krysc | what is debugging? what is L.A.? | 22:15 |
| Jaffa | alterego: timsamoff: ^^^ | 22:15 |
| * timsamoff nods. | 22:15 | |
| ieatlint | i'm hoping for "what's c++? | 22:15 |
| RedType | i fucking predicted "what's png" | 22:16 |
| RedType | actually, my prediciton was "what's bmp" | 22:16 |
| krysc | what is a window? | 22:16 |
| timsamoff | I get the "C" part, but what are the two plusses for? | 22:16 |
| Jaffa | "What does 'Atom' stand for?" | 22:16 |
| zehjotkah | :D | 22:16 |
| RedType | what's an intel | 22:16 |
| RedType | OH | 22:16 |
| RedType | GOD | 22:16 |
| RedType | HE JUST DID IT | 22:16 |
| RedType | OH GOD | 22:16 |
| timsamoff | Oh, my... | 22:16 |
| krysc | jaffa! you called it! | 22:16 |
| RedType | WHAT THE FUCK JAFFA | 22:16 |
| zehjotkah | really? I have to come over there.. | 22:16 |
| Jaffa | RedType: i did "what is PNG" here | 22:16 |
| timsamoff | Jaffa visited the Psychic across the street this morning. | 22:17 |
| Jaffa | I can emu;ate this guyin my head... | 22:17 |
| krysc | clearly | 22:17 |
| *** kpuc has joined #meego | 22:17 | |
| *** fcn_ has joined #meego | 22:17 | |
| *** fcn has quit IRC | 22:17 | |
| RedType | are you proud Jaffa | 22:17 |
| RedType | :p | 22:17 |
| Jaffa | Worrying, admittedlty. | 22:17 |
| RedType | quick | 22:17 |
| RedType | predict that you'll leave the room | 22:17 |
| ieatlint | yeah, what's next? | 22:17 |
| * timsamoff is seriously about to guffaw out loud. | 22:17 | |
| Jaffa | RedType: :) | 22:17 |
| krysc | jaffa: next prediction? | 22:17 |
| Jaffa | "What is tuning?" | 22:18 |
| RedType | jaffa may not be predicting, he may be instructing | 22:18 |
| zehjotkah | waiting at the door for the next question... | 22:18 |
| krysc | "why is it yellow?" | 22:18 |
| RedType | PERFORMANCE | 22:18 |
| RedType | WHAT IS THAT | 22:18 |
| ieatlint | awww | 22:18 |
| Jaffa | I WIN!!!!! | 22:18 |
| krysc | OMG! | 22:18 |
| timsamoff | I might have to close IRC. | 22:18 |
| zehjotkah | performance of what?? | 22:18 |
| ieatlint | hehe, i think it counts | 22:18 |
| ieatlint | he did ask why, just in a slightly different way | 22:19 |
| RedType | oh good fucking lord why wasn't camping correct | 22:19 |
| timsamoff | What does it mean by idle? | 22:19 |
| zehjotkah | why decrease power consumption? | 22:20 |
| krysc | :-D | 22:20 |
| RedType | what is code | 22:20 |
| RedType | what are cpu | 22:20 |
| ieatlint | i'd guess SoC is his next question | 22:20 |
| timsamoff | What kind of tools? | 22:20 |
| krysc | "what is the future?" | 22:20 |
| berndhs | can you explain what the difinition of "is" is ? | 22:20 |
| timsamoff | Jaffa knows ^ | 22:21 |
| timsamoff | the future... | 22:21 |
| ieatlint | the future will be better tomorrow | 22:21 |
| *** sofar has joined #meego | 22:21 | |
| zehjotkah | what is mp3? | 22:21 |
| RedType | what is orange | 22:21 |
| RedType | what is battery | 22:21 |
| RedType | what is critical task | 22:22 |
| RedType | how do you create power | 22:22 |
| timsamoff | Oh, boy... Here we go. | 22:22 |
| zehjotkah | c-state and p-state | 22:22 |
| Jaffa | "What does C and P stand for?" | 22:22 |
| zehjotkah | yay??? | 22:22 |
| RedType | JAFFA | 22:22 |
| zehjotkah | :) | 22:22 |
| RedType | JAFFA | 22:22 |
| timsamoff | :D | 22:22 |
| RedType | WHAT THE FUCK MAN | 22:22 |
| RedType | WHAT | 22:22 |
| RedType | THE | 22:22 |
| RedType | FUUUUCK | 22:22 |
| iekku | ooookooooo | 22:22 |
| timsamoff | He stumped him! | 22:22 |
| krysc | i need to meet you jaffa. | 22:22 |
| RedType | jaffa are you here | 22:23 |
| zehjotkah | :) | 22:23 |
| krysc | this is incredible. | 22:23 |
| Jaffa | I'm by the pluga | 22:23 |
| timsamoff | Jaffa, what wil I be doing later? | 22:23 |
| Jaffa | at the right | 22:23 |
| RedType | macbook? | 22:23 |
| *** heffer has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| Jaffa | black maemo.org t-shirt | 22:23 |
| Jaffa | RedType: Was a Dell, now iPad :) | 22:23 |
| RedType | lol | 22:23 |
| RedType | it evolved | 22:23 |
| RedType | what is manual opt? | 22:24 |
| timsamoff | What libraries? | 22:24 |
| *** timeless_xchat has quit IRC | 22:24 | |
| Jaffa | I am actuallycuripusasto why it's 'C' and 'P', but I wouldn't ask in this session... | 22:24 |
| krysc | how do i recompile? why? | 22:24 |
| Jaffa | Bah, not good at typing at this full virtual keyboard | 22:25 |
| *** kW_ has joined #meego | 22:25 | |
| timsamoff | http://origin-software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2008/03/12/c-states-and-p-states-are-very-different/ | 22:25 |
| Jaffa | "whatdoes XE stand for?" | 22:25 |
| RedType | i think it stands for clock state | 22:25 |
| RedType | or cpu state | 22:25 |
| Jaffa | And P for power, peresumably. | 22:25 |
| RedType | yeah | 22:25 |
| kpuc | that's what i'd guess | 22:26 |
| *** krysc has left #meego | 22:26 | |
| RST38h | P-states appear to relate to SpeedStep tech | 22:27 |
| RST38h | C-states are standby of different depth | 22:27 |
| kpuc | speed step is both clock and voltage regulation? | 22:27 |
| RST38h | AFAIK yes althoug I have not visited the topic in a while | 22:28 |
| timsamoff | Thank you. | 22:28 |
| RedType | thanks | 22:28 |
| RedType | any reasoning for the name | 22:28 |
| lcuk | back in the day, I recall getting the celeron 300a to get a 50% overclock | 22:28 |
| lcuk | I had not heard of such large scale OC until all the people saying they could run their n900 at 900mhz + | 22:29 |
| lcuk | (speaking of speedstep etc) | 22:29 |
| zehjotkah | anyone up for going out to eat later? | 22:30 |
| RedType | anyone going to maker faire? | 22:30 |
| ieatlint | there seems to be a plan to meet in the hacker lounge around 1pm and then figure it out from there | 22:30 |
| zehjotkah | okay, I'll be there | 22:31 |
| zehjotkah | taking Erik with me ;) | 22:31 |
| timsamoff | This is going to be one of those fun/typical lunch outings where it takes three hours to find a place for 50 people to eat lunch together. ;) | 22:31 |
| *** siddvicious has quit IRC | 22:31 | |
| zehjotkah | :D | 22:31 |
| ieatlint | haha, yeah | 22:32 |
| lcuk | timsamoff, how about sending an advance party out first | 22:32 |
| zehjotkah | or where dneary walks about an hour in front of us trying to find a place | 22:32 |
| timsamoff | zehjotkah: Good idea. | 22:32 |
| timsamoff | lcuk: No one will want to miss out on getting the ExoPC. | 22:32 |
| ieatlint | we're probably just being trolled and there are no tablets | 22:33 |
| zehjotkah | sadly we won't get the harmattan developer device this conference | 22:33 |
| zehjotkah | from nokia :( | 22:33 |
| lcuk | timsamoff, prefer the software than the hardware | 22:33 |
| timsamoff | :) | 22:33 |
| RST38h | So, this year's freebie is ExoPC? | 22:34 |
| kpuc | i doubt it's in intel's interests to have 99 angry developers on their hands | 22:34 |
| lcuk | timsamoff, I waited 2 years between seeing a test of something and actually having it on hardware ;) | 22:34 |
| zehjotkah | no, the ExoPC is only for AppUp attendees | 22:34 |
| Stskeeps|holiday | RST38h: appup always gives out exopc | 22:34 |
| ieatlint | only 100 people per session for this too | 22:34 |
| RST38h | Ah | 22:34 |
| kpuc | 99 devs, one guy with no clue | 22:35 |
| zehjotkah | :D | 22:35 |
| RedType | 99 devs, one cup | 22:35 |
| zehjotkah | png anyone? | 22:35 |
| kpuc | hehehe | 22:35 |
| kpuc | png or it didn't happen | 22:35 |
| timsamoff | Pretty nifty graphics? | 22:35 |
| ieatlint | that's going to be the quote of the conference… "MeeGo 2011: What <i>does</i> PNG stand for?" | 22:35 |
| RedType | penises now graphical | 22:35 |
| * lcuk ponders what he would actually do with a budget like that and how a team could be organised | 22:35 | |
| timsamoff | ieatlint: We need to make t-shirts. | 22:35 |
| RedType | i'd buy one for 10bux | 22:36 |
| *** fcn_ has quit IRC | 22:36 | |
| RST38h | lcuk: Give everyone an N900, make them all run Liquibase on it, then run that distributed bubble app over all 100 devices? | 22:36 |
| lcuk | RST38h, :) yeah | 22:36 |
| lcuk | but now liqbase is not constrained to one device | 22:37 |
| ieatlint | i'm sure they won't be giving out the nokia meego phone, but i'm still hoping they announce it and give us the specs | 22:37 |
| lcuk | it runs happily on everything I have tested it on | 22:37 |
| MohammadAG | somehow I feel otherwise | 22:37 |
| zehjotkah | they wanted to distibute it, but they don't have enough devices | 22:37 |
| MohammadAG | but only because I'm not there, stuff like that usually happens :p | 22:37 |
| *** mtux_ has quit IRC | 22:37 | |
| lcuk | RST38h, the big ideapads actually make it feasible and confortable to have the big version | 22:37 |
| lcuk | ie, the grafiti wall actually does hold all the sketches ever drawn on any of my devices | 22:38 |
| zehjotkah | lcuk: why are you not here? | 22:38 |
| * lcuk kicks the damn networking stack for not supporting adhoc though | 22:38 | |
| ieatlint | zehjotkah: yeah, i'd heard they will not be making that many at all | 22:38 |
| RedType | "Can I use Meego in place of Android" | 22:38 |
| lcuk | zehjotkah, baby due and shouting | 22:38 |
| zehjotkah | I see | 22:38 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, which one? Maemo's or MeeGo's? | 22:39 |
| zehjotkah | ieatlint: there are more than enough devices, but not here at SF^^ | 22:39 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, ? | 22:39 |
| zehjotkah | or they're not willing to give out that much | 22:39 |
| MohammadAG | lcuk, networking stack + adhoc | 22:39 |
| zehjotkah | I'm really frustrated | 22:39 |
| zehjotkah | had nose bleeding this morning^^ | 22:39 |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 22:39 | |
| ieatlint | zehjotkah: you're just making me bitter that i don't get one then | 22:40 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, N900 Maemo + ideapad/x200s/XYZ machine + ubuntu can add-hoc nicely | 22:40 |
| lcuk | meego connman does not | 22:40 |
| ieatlint | it's not even really the free part, but the instant gratification i WANT ONE NOW part | 22:40 |
| *** clbr has quit IRC | 22:40 | |
| lcuk | so MeeGo ideapad + meego n900 cannot talk on the bus | 22:40 |
| *** billyjam has joined #meego | 22:40 | |
| lcuk | s/meego/MeeGo/ | 22:40 |
| infobot | lcuk meant: so MeeGo ideapad + MeeGo n900 cannot talk on the bus | 22:40 |
| *** timsamoff has left #meego | 22:40 | |
| lcuk | bug 440 | 22:40 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440 enh, Low, ---, sameo, VERI WONTFIX, Unable to support ad-hoc mode for WiFi | 22:40 |
| *** kpuc has quit IRC | 22:42 | |
| zehjotkah | everyone getting an ExoPC now | 22:42 |
| zehjotkah | have fun with it. | 22:42 |
| lcuk | MohammadAG, I heard from sameo that the tweak needed to connman would be almost trivial, but that he was not doing it | 22:42 |
| tim___ | is there an iso file for netbook meego | 22:42 |
| ieatlint | ok, we're all off to stand in line for tablets | 22:42 |
| *** Jay_BEE has joined #meego | 22:43 | |
| lcuk | sounds like a pharmacy | 22:43 |
| Jay_BEE | re | 22:43 |
| *** kW_ has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** zehjotkah has left #meego | 22:43 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 22:44 | |
| tim___ | lcuk: is there an iso for the netbook meego | 22:45 |
| *** lynxis has joined #meego | 22:45 | |
| lcuk | tim___, of course there is! | 22:45 |
| lcuk | https://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/meego-1.2-release | 22:45 |
| * GAN900 is about 10 minutes out. | 22:45 | |
| lcuk | see there for links to the various images and flavours | 22:46 |
| tim___ | thanks my netbootin doesnt want to work with floppy images today | 22:46 |
| lcuk | tim___, are you using 3.5 or 5 1/4 inch disks? | 22:47 |
| dm8tbr | 8! | 22:47 |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 22:48 | |
| lcuk | dm8tbr, I find 8" drives less than optimal for travelling | 22:48 |
| *** the-light has joined #meego | 22:48 | |
| tim___ | lcuk: none i ment the .img file doesnt want to work i need an iso | 22:48 |
| lcuk | tim___, oh | 22:48 |
| lcuk | i just stick it on a usb and it works | 22:49 |
| dm8tbr | lcuk: pish, just fold the disk, ... oh... | 22:49 |
| lcuk | as does everyone else | 22:49 |
| lcuk | dm8tbr, nifty idea | 22:49 |
| lcuk | does that make them dual layer? | 22:49 |
| dm8tbr | and double density! | 22:49 |
| lcuk | half moon disks | 22:50 |
| lcuk | I bet you could actually fit those in a manilla envelope! | 22:50 |
| *** the-light has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 22:53 | |
| *** LiraNuna has quit IRC | 22:53 | |
| *** LiraNuna has joined #meego | 22:54 | |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 22:54 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 22:56 | |
| *** mer_ge has quit IRC | 22:56 | |
| *** dck\bnc has quit IRC | 22:58 | |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 22:59 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
| *** DawnFoster has joined #meego | 23:02 | |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 23:02 | |
| *** kW_ has joined #meego | 23:04 | |
| *** lardman_ has joined #meego | 23:04 | |
| *** jpetersen has quit IRC | 23:04 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 23:04 | |
| *** panaggio_ has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
| *** mer_ge has joined #meego | 23:06 | |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 23:07 | |
| tim___ | wooooop my meego on my system76 starling netbook has booted :D | 23:08 |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 23:08 | |
| *** lardman|home has quit IRC | 23:08 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 23:08 | |
| tim___ | lcuk: it worked :D | 23:08 |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 23:08 | |
| *** Atarii has joined #meego | 23:09 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 23:09 | |
| *** MarcA-N_ has joined #meego | 23:09 | |
| *** chris-qBT_ has quit IRC | 23:09 | |
| *** leinir has joined #meego | 23:10 | |
| *** Kaskuka has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** kW_ has quit IRC | 23:14 | |
| *** ced117 has quit IRC | 23:15 | |
| *** sheepbat has joined #meego | 23:15 | |
| *** Moku has joined #meego | 23:16 | |
| sofar | ooo connman's ntp support now works in trunk | 23:16 |
| sofar | w00t | 23:16 |
| Jay_BEE | sweet | 23:17 |
| tim___ | meego on netbook is awesome | 23:18 |
| *** andre__ has quit IRC | 23:18 | |
| *** kraiskil has quit IRC | 23:20 | |
| *** MarcA-N has joined #meego | 23:25 | |
| *** MarcA-N_ has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** MarcA-N_ has joined #meego | 23:27 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 23:27 | |
| *** MarcA-N_ is now known as MarcA-N | 23:27 | |
| lcuk | hmmm | 23:29 |
| lcuk | 2 identical 4gb sandisk C2 cards | 23:29 |
| lcuk | the first one I have been using has had write speeds of 750kB/s | 23:29 |
| lcuk | the second one (identical markings) has write speed of 2.2MB/s | 23:30 |
| lcuk | :D | 23:30 |
| ShadowJK | same cid and stuff too? | 23:32 |
| ShadowJK | same partition alignment? :) | 23:32 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, CID? | 23:33 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, IDK can only base it on what is in front of me | 23:33 |
| * lcuk not going to complain though :) | 23:34 | |
| ShadowJK | like the oemid, manufacturer and other data | 23:35 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, probably the faster one was one I dropped in cup of coffee some months ago | 23:36 |
| lcuk | it is still buzzing | 23:36 |
| ShadowJK | because there are lots of fake sandisks out there :P | 23:36 |
| lcuk | i cannot take the back cover off device just yet whilst copy is in progress | 23:36 |
| lcuk | but I will double check the markings | 23:36 |
| ShadowJK | it's not written on the card | 23:37 |
| *** wmarone-n900 has joined #meego | 23:37 | |
| ShadowJK | it's in /sys/block/mmcblk?/device/ | 23:37 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, it was merely a cursory glance and "i wonder" which made me switch them out | 23:38 |
| *** DawnFoster has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
| lcuk | writing to /dev/sdc atm | 23:38 |
| * lcuk even had a quick heart flutter at the wrong device entirely | 23:38 | |
| tim___ | luck on live does the wifi have trouble? | 23:40 |
| lcuk | tmi___ not normally for me | 23:40 |
| lcuk | but on the tablet image I could not enter the parameters needed for my home wifi | 23:41 |
| lcuk | the netbook ux is easy to enter details into though | 23:41 |
| *** timeless_xchat has joined #meego | 23:43 | |
| tim___ | how do i do that? | 23:44 |
| tim___ | but i dont think its picking up my wifi card | 23:44 |
| *** lardman_ has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| *** Zorry has joined #meego | 23:45 | |
| *** Zorry has joined #meego | 23:45 | |
| *** Jay_BEE has quit IRC | 23:46 | |
| *** MarcA-N_ has joined #meego | 23:46 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 23:46 | |
| *** MarcA-N_ is now known as MarcA-N | 23:46 | |
| MarcA-N | someone advise me on how to add to add openoffice to my 'applications' on my MeeGo netbook? | 23:47 |
| MarcA-N | wiped to 1.2, reinstalled openoffice, and it doesn't show up in icons | 23:47 |
| *** nsuffys has quit IRC | 23:48 | |
| *** TheOpenSourcerer has left #meego | 23:49 | |
| *** kW_ has joined #meego | 23:49 | |
| lcuk | w00t_, why do you think I try to have everything I want/need to not rely upon internet | 23:51 |
| lcuk | and why do you think ad-hoc is so important! :P | 23:51 |
| lcuk | downside to faster usb transfer - IO lag on the laptop and jumping audio o_O | 23:52 |
| tim___ | my meego isnt picking up my wifi | 23:55 |
| *** Jay_BEE has joined #meego | 23:55 | |
| tim___ | is there a bash command to find out if it sees my wifi card | 23:55 |
| lcuk | tim___, some of the devices in the meego devices wiki page say that the wifi card itself is not detected | 23:56 |
| *** imp|cat has joined #meego | 23:56 | |
| tim___ | lcuk: so its only detectable when installed? | 23:56 |
| lcuk | tim___, IDK | 23:57 |
| *** balor_ has quit IRC | 23:57 | |
| lcuk | everything I have run it on properly has detected it normally | 23:57 |
| lcuk | I don't think it is a matter of installed or not | 23:57 |
| tim___ | meego is pointless for me without the wifi | 23:57 |
| *** DawnFoster has joined #meego | 23:58 | |
| * thiago needs wifi on everything | 23:58 | |
| thiago | or bluetooth | 23:58 |
| * lcuk really really wants adhoc to work | 23:58 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!