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| greygusb | the new kagu player is really nice | 00:08 |
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| greygusb | now sorting my mp3s... i need some kind of id3 tag editor, any existing for the n800 itself? | 00:10 |
| timelE61i | Luria: don't forget to file? | 00:10 |
| greygusb | oor anyone can recommend one that is good, commandline prefered | 00:11 |
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| timelE61i | itunes? :) | 00:11 |
| greygusb | mh, i somehow was thinking about building it for the n800, not sure how much supportt i'd get froom apple for that ;) | 00:13 |
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| greygusb | i was thinking about some kind of script that lets me edit all tags of mp3s in dir in a row | 00:16 |
| rev | man, speaking of mp3s on the N800... is there a non-sucky media player i don't know about? | 00:16 |
| rev | i don't want something big or fancy like canola | 00:16 |
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| timelE61i | which do you know of? | 00:16 |
| * timelE61i likes rhapsody :) | 00:17 | |
| rev | the in-built media player would be fine except for its crappy key-config (or lack of configuration), its ID3 tag mangling, and the slowness/inconsistent way it reads my taps | 00:17 |
| greygusb | i use mplayer most of the time | 00:17 |
| dolske | hai! | 00:17 |
| rev | well, i know of mplayer, the vlc port, media player and canola | 00:17 |
| greygusb | works perfect | 00:17 |
| Gigabites | does anyone know how to fix an sd card that went "read only" without reformatting it? | 00:17 |
| Gigabites | or what causes it? | 00:17 |
| rev | Gigabites: flip the switch back? | 00:18 |
| Gigabites | nope, not flipped | 00:18 |
| timelE61i | check dmesg | 00:18 |
| rev | but mplayer had no concept of ID-tag-based library or directory-as-album | 00:18 |
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| timelE61i | usually you're going to want to back up the card | 00:18 |
| greygusb | mostly becaause i can choose the cache size with mplayer, usefull if listening from cifs mountts | 00:18 |
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| timelE61i | i'd personally stop using it. | 00:19 |
| rev | i listen to albums and i have no interest in making playlists automatically, but i guess i could write a script to do that | 00:19 |
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| greygusb | mh i use for loops | 00:19 |
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| timelE61i | you could try windows chec disk | 00:19 |
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| Veggen | I have had success with fsck.vfat. | 00:20 |
| Gigabites | yeh card is backed up. I'm about to reformat just that the maemo mapper directory replacement takes a looooong time, just wanted to fix the card and avoid a restore | 00:20 |
| greygusb | i never cared about id3 tags, now i like to sort them to also be able to use the other players | 00:20 |
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| Veggen | If you have a scratchbox setup, it shouldn't be too hard to compile it and run it on the device itself. | 00:20 |
| Veggen | (hmm, I have it lying around, somewhere. oh right, on the laptop with the broken power contact) | 00:21 |
| rev | greygusb: well, i don't care about tags that much- but i d have good tags, but i also have them all in a Music/Artist/Album/Song.mp3 setup too, which facilitates both itunes-ish setups and more simple players like winamp where i can select a folder and have it sort by filename | 00:21 |
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| timelE61i | Veggen: i don't suppose that explains the source of the corruption :? | 00:22 |
| Veggen | nope. | 00:22 |
| rev | the N800's player seems to do something between ID3 tags and filenames, and most of the time it actually screws up the order of the tracks on the album | 00:22 |
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| greygusb | yes, basically i have only directory sorted mp3s | 00:23 |
| greygusb | tons of them | 00:23 |
| * timelE61i considers reading the source | 00:23 | |
| rev | greygusb: i'd be fine using that, but how do you do that w/ mplayer? with the version i had i could only pick a single song. | 00:23 |
| greygusb | cifs mounted to the device | 00:23 |
| rev | greygusb: these are all on the machine, no streaming/nfsing or anything | 00:23 |
| rev | do i just need to make an m3u for each album? doable, just stupid, imho :P | 00:24 |
| timelE61i | rev: could you find some small free mp3s that misbehave and file a bug in bugs.maemo.org? | 00:24 |
| ||cw | easytag is nice, not commandlien though, nor something I'd want to run on a handheld | 00:24 |
| greygusb | for i in *; do mplayer ... | 00:24 |
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| greygusb | */* for several dirs | 00:24 |
| rev | timelE61i: well, i don't know if it is misbehaving per se, but more that it doesn't do some version of ID3 | 00:25 |
| greygusb | aas said, all dir sorted | 00:25 |
| greygusb | never cared about id3 tags | 00:25 |
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| rev | timelE61i: because according to itunes, for instance, all tracks in a folder have the album tag "Drums and Guns" ; itunes thinks this, as do other apps... maybe it doesn't do a certain version of ID3? | 00:26 |
| timelE61i | i don't care about details | 00:26 |
| greygusb | ideally, i'd just like to write the dir structure into the id3 tags, my biggest problem are inconsistencies in the spelling | 00:26 |
| timelE61i | make a testcase | 00:26 |
| rev | greygusb: yeah, but that won't jive for me- i don't want to do ctrl-c to stop playing the tunes, etc; i want to be able to do next/prev track, vol up/down, etc etc consistently | 00:27 |
| greygusb | testcase? | 00:27 |
| MoRpHeUz | rev: vlc port ? | 00:27 |
| ||cw | greygusb: easytag can do that | 00:27 |
| greygusb | what testcase database/tool is used? | 00:27 |
| rev | MoRpHeUz: seemed oriented for single-songs, i don't want to add 10-20 single songs that make up an album to vlc's playlist | 00:27 |
| timelE61i | Yes, a small pair of files which behave differently in itunes v. N800 | 00:27 |
| rev | i'll see what i find | 00:28 |
| MoRpHeUz | rev: I mean, are there any vlc port for n800 ? | 00:28 |
| rev | MoRpHeUz: oh yeah, but the interface is primitive | 00:28 |
| timelE61i | greygusb, that reminds me to tell dolske to search for "handels" | 00:28 |
| MoRpHeUz | rev: do you have the URL ? =) | 00:29 |
| greygusb | mh, easytag is not useable on the n800 i think | 00:29 |
| greygusb | handels? | 00:29 |
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| rev | MoRpHeUz: i think installed it through the app manager, not sure what rep | 00:29 |
| MoRpHeUz | Rebe: I'll take a look =) | 00:30 |
| * rev goes to see what version | 00:30 | |
| greygusb | btw. is the usb port of the n800 usb2? | 00:30 |
| MoRpHeUz | rev: ops...that was for you ^^ | 00:30 |
| timelE61i | Rev/greygusb, we're not an entirely opaque company | 00:30 |
| dolske | handels? sounds baroquen. | 00:30 |
| timelE61i | yes usb2 | 00:31 |
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| dolske | hispeed or fullspeed? :P | 00:31 |
| timelE61i | if you give me a bytesized problem, i can send it to be analyzed | 00:31 |
| ||cw | greygusb: it is usb2, but the internal memory card reader is not fast | 00:31 |
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| timelE61i | and i should be able to get feedback explaining why it doesn't work | 00:32 |
| greygusb | i was thinking about getting a sis based usb-vga adapter, driver would exist but it needs usb2 fullspeed | 00:32 |
| greygusb | or highspeed, the faster version, always mixing them up | 00:32 |
| ||cw | usbhost work on n800 now? | 00:32 |
| greygusb | yes, here it does | 00:32 |
| ||cw | cool | 00:32 |
| greygusb | after changing the hub | 00:33 |
| greygusb | who thinks a powered hub still draws power from the device ... | 00:33 |
| ||cw | external vga might be difficult as it doens't use a standard xorg/x11, no idea how you' config the external monitor | 00:33 |
| ||cw | the device doens't provide power at all | 00:34 |
| ||cw | so nothing can draw poer from it | 00:34 |
| greygusb | i was expecting that i'd have to rebuild the x itself | 00:34 |
| rev | timelE61i: like i said, i'm willing to help, i just have to dink around some | 00:34 |
| rev | timelE61i: i've got a list of little annoying bugs i keep meaning to send in, but i don't think it's fair to do so until i upgrade to the newer release, which i've not done | 00:34 |
| greygusb | at least there is some sorce package ... | 00:35 |
| rev | but i do need to do ASAP because i managed to kill opera with some packages i installed via the app manager | 00:35 |
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| timelE61i | Personally i run 3.2007, but i'll find someone to test whatever is current | 00:36 |
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| greygusb | i wanted to have a look into the x source package for finding oit how to get a usb mouse working | 00:36 |
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| greygusb | or blietooth | 00:36 |
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| timelE61i | given that nokia doesn't include detailed changelogs in any digestable form... | 00:37 |
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| timelE61i | it's better to file a bug about 3 and have someone say yeah fixed in 4 | 00:38 |
| rev | i suppose! | 00:38 |
| rev | :) | 00:38 |
| timelE61i | then people w/ 3, myself included will know | 00:38 |
| greygusb | mh, i think i'll go to bed, too tired to care about mp3 sorting anymore | 00:39 |
| greygusb | n8 | 00:39 |
| timelE61i | course, don't try to drown us w/ bugs | 00:39 |
| rev | heh | 00:39 |
| timelE61i | and definitely retest when you upgrade | 00:40 |
| timelE61i | the goal is to make the quality of bugs in bugs.maemo better than any internal system | 00:41 |
| timelE61i | Preferably for the entire bug life cycle: report, analysis, testing, resolution, verification | 00:42 |
| timelE61i | gah, silly residents of finland | 00:43 |
| timelE61i | pass a no smoking indoors law | 00:43 |
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| timelE61i | so proprieters and customers go into the entrance to smoke | 00:44 |
| timelE61i | result: smoke goes inside restaurants/bars | 00:44 |
| timelE61i | dolske did you find handel? | 00:45 |
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| dolske | ? | 00:46 |
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| timely | http://mxr-test.landfill.bugzilla.org/mozilla/search?string=handel | 00:48 |
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| dolske | phew, none are mine :) | 00:56 |
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| timely | dolske: ping | 01:06 |
| timely | does view-source: work in microb? | 01:06 |
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| dolske | dunno, although I did notice there's no UI for "View Source". busy atm... | 01:07 |
| timely | yeah, a user just filed a bug asking for it | 01:07 |
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| mk8 | Hi to all ... I just install bora 3.1 sdk (ok I know that the 3.2 it is released). Before to upgrade I want to make some test but I not find Xephyr. Anyone know how to install it? | 01:11 |
| mk8 | and where download it? | 01:12 |
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| mk8 | sorry, I found it. Thanks | 01:13 |
| rik | is there a way of convincing the N800 with release 4 of OS2007 not to try to connect to a wifi access point when i'm trying to look at some web page that's on localhost? | 01:13 |
| rik | get it to actualyl consult the routing table before heading out over the network? | 01:13 |
| timely | rlk: there's a bug in bugs.mameo.org | 01:15 |
| timely | or bugs.maemo.org | 01:16 |
| timely | in short, please yell at the connectivity folks | 01:16 |
| timely | it's all their fault | 01:16 |
| rik | 'k | 01:17 |
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| timely | i think you can install minimo/firefox/any normal application :) | 01:19 |
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| timely | (actually there are about 4 bugs in bugs.maemo.org about it) | 01:21 |
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| rik | actually, i was thinking about canola's config tool | 01:22 |
| Tu13es | what is the Dialpad for in Internet Call? | 01:23 |
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| timely | rik: as i said, it's all connectivity's fault | 01:23 |
| timely | and yes, i know about the config tool | 01:24 |
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| timely | although people said it causes the browser to crash, and i never managed to install it, after a couple of attempts | 01:24 |
| rik | i've never managed to crash the browser. | 01:25 |
| rik | but i'm good at installing canola now. | 01:25 |
| rik | i've had every possible failure mode, as far as i can tell, so i can sort out any problems. | 01:25 |
| rik | it's jsut a shame it uses gstreamer as a backend, rather than mplayer. | 01:25 |
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| ibnnagrela | btw, is there any chance of increasing the number of encoding schemes in microb? | 01:27 |
| bmk789 | is it a better idea to get a 770 cheap or wait for an 800? | 01:27 |
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| timely | eh? | 01:27 |
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| timely | you mean in the encoding dialog? | 01:27 |
| Luria_ | yeah | 01:27 |
| timely | heh | 01:27 |
| timely | we intentionally limited it because there weren't any fonts | 01:27 |
| Gigabites | bmk, depends what you will use it for | 01:27 |
| timely | and supporting others didn't make sense | 01:27 |
| Luria_ | i thought it was a limitation of the system, but ive added he_il | 01:27 |
| timely | why show people a hebrew encoding when all you'd get is squares? | 01:28 |
| Luria_ | hence my idea of an oss font project :-) | 01:28 |
| bmk789 | can a 770 run the latest OS and run maemo-mapper decently? | 01:29 |
| timely | what do you mean wait for an n800? | 01:29 |
| Gigabites | it can run the latest OS for the 770 and yes runs maemo mapper decently | 01:29 |
| timely | there's a thing called 2007-he for the 770 | 01:29 |
| Luria_ | incidentally, there are a bunch of inaccuracies in the maemo hebrew thing... be that as it may, is there documentation for which /usr/share/fonts and /usr/share/fonts/nokia font are used where? | 01:29 |
| Gigabites | you can put the hacker edition of 2007 but it's a kludge | 01:30 |
| Gigabites | he-2007 is NOT for new users | 01:30 |
| Luria_ | i would love to help fix unicode support on the n800 - and not just for rtl languages | 01:30 |
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| Luria_ | though im not so ambitious or skilled to do an ime :-) | 01:31 |
| Gigabites | personally, buy the N800, buying the 770 now is like buying a nintendo 64, lots of great stuff is available for it, but no one is writing anything for it anymore | 01:33 |
| erstazi | Gigabites: I am porting for OS2006 (: | 01:33 |
| Gigabites | heh | 01:33 |
| Gigabites | unfortunately nokia isn't | 01:34 |
| erstazi | 770 is not a bad choice | 01:34 |
| erstazi | yes, the n800 is getting the spotlight | 01:34 |
| Gigabites | all the new stuff is on the n800 | 01:34 |
| erstazi | but choosing between $130 and $330, thats a choice | 01:34 |
| erstazi | Gigabites: and all it needs is to be ported, nokia barely releases software, its the community | 01:34 |
| Gigabites | the 770 is the "first experiment" | 01:34 |
| erstazi | actually | 01:34 |
| bmk789 | will the 770 be able to run all the same software as the 800? | 01:35 |
| erstazi | OS2005 was the first experiment | 01:35 |
| timely | the n800 is the third experiment :) | 01:35 |
| Gigabites | NO | 01:35 |
| erstazi | bmk789: some but not all | 01:35 |
| Gigabites | the 770 is limited in what it can run | 01:35 |
| timely | bmk789: the fmradio and camera apps most definitely won't work on the 770 | 01:35 |
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| erstazi | Gigabites: do you own one? | 01:35 |
| Gigabites | yes | 01:35 |
| erstazi | bmk789: what do you want to do on it? | 01:35 |
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| Gigabites | i own a 770 then an n800 | 01:35 |
| bmk789 | ok, i guess ill save up for an 800 instead | 01:35 |
| bmk789 | thanks | 01:35 |
| timely | if you need to save up, i'm not sure the n800 makes a lot of sense | 01:36 |
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| erstazi | I do think the n800 is a major improvement hardware wise | 01:36 |
| timely | if it's going to hurt your pocket that much... | 01:36 |
| Gigabites | os2005, oh please now you're just splitting hairs, it was still hardware wise a 770 | 01:36 |
| erstazi | timely: every penny counts | 01:36 |
| Luria_ | music is also pointless on the n800 | 01:36 |
| erstazi | Gigabites: I do split hairs sometimes but having two sd slots and a camera is nice | 01:36 |
| Luria_ | i mean 770 | 01:37 |
| erstazi | Luria_: use slimserver or similar | 01:37 |
| erstazi | still, use slimserver or similar | 01:37 |
| Luria_ | typo | 01:37 |
| Luria_ | i mean 770 max storage = 2gb | 01:37 |
| erstazi | Luria_: with slimserver, you can broadcast your music | 01:37 |
| Luria_ | n800 = 16gb and counting | 01:37 |
| Gigabites | my 770 has been in a box in a drawer for 6 months and hasn't seen the light of day | 01:37 |
| Luria_ | which is useless on an airplane, or a car, or a subway | 01:38 |
| Gigabites | luria, yeh totally true | 01:38 |
| Luria_ | my n800 has replaced my iriver | 01:38 |
| Gigabites | not to mention the 770 uses harder to find MMC-rs | 01:38 |
| timely | my 770 is on my desk between my keyboard and my cinema display :) | 01:38 |
| Gigabites | and n800 uses sd (in the case of my n800, two 8 gig sdhc cards) | 01:39 |
| Gigabites | other than saving a bit of cash on a new experince, the 770 isn't worth buying | 01:40 |
| timely | http://shop.vendio.com/eavyexpress/item/936349399/?s=1187604003 | 01:40 |
| timely | New Sandisk 1GB RS-MMC Card $7.98 | 01:40 |
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| erstazi | a 2gb RS-MMC is $20 roughly on buy.com | 01:40 |
| Gigabites | if you don't know what you will use an IT for, and never owned one, then yes, get the 770 and see if buying an n800 is worth it | 01:40 |
| erstazi | Gigabites: just for you to know, I was just busting ya, I do know that n800 is better in performance and hardware but the 770 is still a value saver | 01:40 |
| Gigabites | sure | 01:41 |
| Gigabites | i agree | 01:41 |
| erstazi | again, $200 makes a difference to people | 01:41 |
| Luria_ | dunno. think the 770 is better as an around the house device... n800 is more versatile | 01:41 |
| Gigabites | hahah sandisk, never buy that crappy brand | 01:41 |
| erstazi | Luria_: agreed | 01:41 |
| Luria_ | 770 may be better for hacking value | 01:41 |
| erstazi | but, both have the same hardware stats for wifi last I checked | 01:41 |
| Gigabites | actually luria i ythink the opposite | 01:41 |
| Luria_ | really? | 01:42 |
| Luria_ | how so? | 01:42 |
| Gigabites | the 770 is better for the outside world, better case, if it breaks, it's cheaper to replace, and it's so ugly no one would steal it hahah | 01:42 |
| * timely disagrees | 01:42 | |
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| * timely thinks the n800 is uglier | 01:42 | |
| erstazi | haha timely | 01:42 |
| Gigabites | as a designer, the 770 is ugly | 01:43 |
| erstazi | the 770 is much sturdier | 01:43 |
| Luria_ | eh? | 01:44 |
| Gigabites | for example i used to take my 770 out geocaching and it was good | 01:44 |
| Luria_ | 800 is uglier than 770 | 01:44 |
| Luria_ | i like the shell case... though if you lose it... | 01:44 |
| * timely lost the case w/in a few weeks of getting it | 01:45 | |
| Gigabites | the shell case was a good idea | 01:45 |
| timely | the 770s anyway | 01:45 |
| Gigabites | but hahah man, the 770 is just plain ugly, black plastic bar | 01:46 |
| MCCob | but it is a functionnal tablette for a little price and it's Linux ! | 01:46 |
| Gigabites | my proporta leather case i have on my n800 adds bulk but at least it has a metal plate to protect the screen | 01:46 |
| Luria_ | i want the 800 with wimax :-/ | 01:46 |
| MCCob | anyone know if 2.x Ghz WiMax chipset will be compatible whith 3.5 Ghz WiMax ? | 01:47 |
| Gigabites | what i never understood is why why why nokia didn't add bluetooth headset profiles | 01:48 |
| Luria_ | yeah, wtf? | 01:48 |
| Gigabites | even my old nokia 6230b has bt support | 01:48 |
| Gigabites | sure kagu supports ad2p but it's a kludge | 01:49 |
| Gigabites | but it is nice to use my moto bt stereo headset to listen to music | 01:49 |
| lardman | night all | 01:50 |
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| Luria_ | actually, add in wimax, transflective screen, usb host, video out, and more ram - and ditch the internal memory | 01:54 |
| Luria_ | and turn on the damn 3d | 01:54 |
| Luria_ | and ill be pretty happy | 01:54 |
| Luria_ | 810f and ipx7 would be really hot | 01:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | I think video out is a more important feature than Nokia realizes. | 01:55 |
| MCCob | does anyone know if there is other SIP software because I want to try SIP with another program that Gizmo Project | 01:55 |
| Luria_ | also, the usb host nonsense | 01:56 |
| MCCob | (SIP software for N770 and OS 2006...) | 01:56 |
| Luria_ | gizmo works with any sip host | 01:56 |
| Luria_ | unless you just dont like the software | 01:56 |
| Luria_ | in which case... youll just have to hope that rtcomm somehow makes it to the 770 | 01:57 |
| MCCob | ok, so I will go to light up a candle in a church... | 01:58 |
| Gigabites | wy would you need video out? on such a small screen blown up big? what's teh point? | 01:58 |
| Gigabites | luria, and your battery life would be oh, about 5 mins with all that crap | 01:58 |
| Gigabites | remember, the n800 (and 770) runs on a cell phone battery, not a laptop battery | 01:59 |
| Luria_ | hardly. | 02:00 |
| Gigabites | more crap, especially radios will drain batteries faster | 02:00 |
| Luria_ | 3d isnt on 24-7. neither is wimax. losing the internal memory is a bit of gain. | 02:00 |
| Luria_ | increasing ram takes that back. | 02:00 |
| Gigabites | um, why would losing the internnal memory be good? | 02:01 |
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| Luria_ | transflective screen reduces power in daylight use | 02:01 |
| Luria_ | so, no, there are no losses. | 02:01 |
| Gigabites | yet it adds cost | 02:01 |
| Luria_ | for the same reason i dont want my system hd in my computer to be non upgradeable | 02:02 |
| Luria_ | what adds cost? | 02:02 |
| Gigabites | people bitch at a $400 n800, a $600 n800 will fair no better | 02:02 |
| Luria_ | not this year, but that price point is feasible | 02:03 |
| Gigabites | you don't think all that crap will be free to add? | 02:03 |
| Luria_ | $400 | 02:03 |
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| Luria_ | 1, if it were crap, i wouldnt be the only voice calling for some of those things. | 02:03 |
| Gigabites | hahah yeh, you might as well light that candle | 02:03 |
| Luria_ | 2, the 3d is already there, nokia just screwed up the bus | 02:03 |
| Luria_ | a nominal increase in ram and removing the internal flash is a wash | 02:04 |
| Gigabites | lots of crap people ask for, nokia still didn't add it, but gave us useless shit lik ethe cam | 02:04 |
| Luria_ | not to mention the constant downward pressure on ICs | 02:04 |
| Luria_ | also, nokia has a press release about a n800 wimax model | 02:05 |
| Luria_ | so, to recap. | 02:05 |
| Gigabites | big deal | 02:05 |
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| Gigabites | as if wimax is everywhere | 02:05 |
| artemisprime | hello | 02:06 |
| _Monkey | que tal, artemisprime | 02:06 |
| artemisprime | nada _Monkey | 02:06 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 02:06 |
| Luria_ | wimax, 3d is already there. ram is a wash, and there is no major new power requirement. | 02:06 |
| Gigabites | hahah ram is a wash | 02:06 |
| Gigabites | right | 02:06 |
| Luria_ | now, the 810f/ipx7 is a dream, but what was your point again? | 02:06 |
| Gigabites | well hope you light that candle for the n900 | 02:07 |
| Luria_ | whats with the candles? | 02:07 |
| Gigabites | i'm not holding my breath | 02:07 |
| Luria_ | why not? | 02:07 |
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| Gigabites | <MCCob> ok, so I will go to light up a candle in a church... | 02:08 |
| Gigabites | whatever dude, we'll see what nokia will put out | 02:08 |
| artemisprime | whoa | 02:08 |
| Luria_ | i dont light candles or go to church. pay more attention to the channel. | 02:08 |
| artemisprime | just found some pics of what might be next | 02:09 |
| Gigabites | it was a joke dude | 02:09 |
| Gigabites | relax | 02:09 |
| artemisprime | http://www.intomobile.com/2007/07/11/next-nokia-internet-tablet-spotted-is-it-n900.html | 02:09 |
| artemisprime | not much info but nice pics | 02:09 |
| Luria_ | artemisprime, probably a hoax | 02:09 |
| Gigabites | it was a hoax | 02:09 |
| artemisprime | hrmmm | 02:09 |
| Luria_ | was on gizmondo a month+ ago | 02:10 |
| artemisprime | oh | 02:10 |
| artemisprime | lame | 02:10 |
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| Gigabites | looks like it was fashioned from roof flashing | 02:10 |
| Gigabites | i would hate a built in kb | 02:11 |
| artemisprime | can the 770 do java or not ? | 02:11 |
| Gigabites | and you have to open it to use the pad and hwkeys? bah | 02:11 |
| Gigabites | it's a stupid design anyway | 02:11 |
| artemisprime | i still never figured out the answer to that | 02:11 |
| artemisprime | anyone gotten blackdown j2me for arm to work ? | 02:16 |
| fish_ | re | 02:17 |
| artemisprime | hu ? | 02:17 |
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| artemisprime | hello DaniloCesar | 02:17 |
| DaniloCesar | Hi artemisprime | 02:17 |
| artemisprime | i was just wondering if anyone knew where I could download blackdown j3me for arm | 02:18 |
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| artemisprime | or if anyone got java to work yet | 02:18 |
| artemisprime | if mobile phones can do it im sure the n770 has enought juice | 02:19 |
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| pupnik | it even has java support in the cpu | 02:21 |
| pupnik | java? | 02:21 |
| artemisprime | what? | 02:21 |
| DaniloCesar | I dont know.... I see something about it on maemo´s user list. | 02:21 |
| Gigabites | i don't think it's a matter of juice, just nokias will for it to happen, like bluetooth headsets | 02:21 |
| pupnik | blackdown is completely free - no reason it's not just a build away | 02:22 |
| artemisprime | where can i find this blackdown j2me for arm ? | 02:22 |
| artemisprime | it supposedly exists | 02:22 |
| erstazi | artemisprime: I have looked | 02:22 |
| artemisprime | i know we just need a port | 02:22 |
| artemisprime | ers: no dice ? | 02:23 |
| erstazi | it use to exist somewhere, but it has to be somewhere still... either source files somewhere | 02:23 |
| erstazi | artemisprime: exactly | 02:23 |
| artemisprime | damn | 02:23 |
| artemisprime | where could it be | 02:23 |
| erstazi | I have searched high and low, and I have not found any source | 02:23 |
| artemisprime | lame | 02:23 |
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| erstazi | my next choice is to email them | 02:23 |
| artemisprime | its not on the blackdown ftp | 02:23 |
| erstazi | or someone else can | 02:23 |
| artemisprime | thats for sure | 02:23 |
| erstazi | I cannot believe that project is gone | 02:24 |
| erstazi | unless its trademark issues | 02:24 |
| artemisprime | trademark | 02:24 |
| artemisprime | lame | 02:24 |
| artemisprime | prolly so | 02:24 |
| pupnik | j2se is running | 02:25 |
| artemisprime | pupnik: what ? | 02:25 |
| artemisprime | share the wealth man | 02:25 |
| artemisprime | :) | 02:25 |
| pupnik | i can't copy and paste from iceweasel | 02:25 |
| artemisprime | hu ? | 02:26 |
| pupnik | search itt forums for java | 02:26 |
| pupnik | iceweasel is broken with synergy | 02:26 |
| artemisprime | i have searched | 02:26 |
| pupnik | when the window loses focus it clears the copy buffer | 02:26 |
| artemisprime | no dice | 02:26 |
| artemisprime | pupnik: can u send me the file | 02:26 |
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| artemisprime | for j2se | 02:26 |
| pupnik | so i have to first paste the url into rxvt | 02:27 |
| pupnik | then rehilight | 02:27 |
| pupnik | then repaste into irssi | 02:27 |
| pupnik | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4618 | 02:27 |
| erstazi | pupnik: are you saying you got j2se on your nokia? | 02:27 |
| pupnik | no | 02:27 |
| pupnik | just that someone else posted that they did | 02:27 |
| erstazi | ah | 02:27 |
| pupnik | isn't there an open-source javavm for debian? | 02:28 |
| erstazi | pupnik: not that I know of | 02:28 |
| erstazi | let me check what I have | 02:28 |
| erstazi | pupnik: I am running Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition | 02:30 |
| DaniloCesar | Someone can explain me why ALT+TAB doesn`t work sometimes with gain on N800? But its works fine with another programs... (like xchat, xterm, etc) | 02:30 |
| erstazi | I can see if I can grab the sources and go from there | 02:30 |
| artemisprime | hmmm | 02:30 |
| artemisprime | this forum post is useless | 02:31 |
| erstazi | pupnik: Blackdown needs a lot of dependencies | 02:31 |
| pupnik | got a deb-src? | 02:31 |
| erstazi | pupnik: working on that | 02:32 |
| erstazi | I am doing 40 million things at once, trying to slim down | 02:32 |
| artemisprime | erstazi: ur going to port it ? | 02:32 |
| erstazi | artemisprime: I can try but I am just doing small apps right now | 02:32 |
| artemisprime | right on | 02:32 |
| erstazi | I am no expert for porting to a different arch | 02:32 |
| erstazi | pupnik: can you lend a hand in help? | 02:32 |
| artemisprime | that would be awesome | 02:32 |
| artemisprime | i cant program | 02:32 |
| artemisprime | or i would help | 02:33 |
| artemisprime | ive got to eat | 02:33 |
| artemisprime | bbiaf | 02:33 |
| pupnik | i don't know, looking at blackdown's ftp mirrors i see a jdk | 02:33 |
| pupnik | erstazi: no there has to be a reason for java RE on the tablets | 02:34 |
| pupnik | time is better spent understanding why | 02:34 |
| pupnik | for *no* java RE | 02:34 |
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| erstazi | hmm | 02:34 |
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| erstazi | artemisprime: its not programming, its just porting and packaging | 02:35 |
| erstazi | well, some programming knowledge is needed for like hildonizing and the likes | 02:35 |
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| erstazi | which java should I go for? | 02:36 |
| erstazi | I am thinking 1 | 02:36 |
| erstazi | 1.X | 02:36 |
| erstazi | something | 02:36 |
| pupnik | java-linux/java2-status/ | 02:36 |
| _Monkey | something is wacky here | 02:36 |
| pupnik | damn iceweasel | 02:37 |
| pupnik | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=54833&postcount=12 | 02:37 |
| erstazi | pupnik: you are on debian eh? | 02:37 |
| pupnik | flag to artemisprime ^^ | 02:37 |
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| erstazi | pupnik: thought so | 02:38 |
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| erstazi | "I won't hold my breath for that. I'll be *very* surprised (with no empirical knowledge unlike yourself) to see Flash 9 in any ITOS 2007 release." I thought Flash9 was on OS2007?? | 02:39 |
| pupnik | read the next line | 02:40 |
| erstazi | yeah | 02:40 |
| erstazi | I saw | 02:40 |
| erstazi | edit: bla bla | 02:40 |
| pupnik | Edit: OK, I was surprised :-) | 02:40 |
| pupnik | that means he wrote it before it was released | 02:41 |
| pupnik | then saw the release | 02:41 |
| pupnik | then added that Edit: | 02:41 |
| erstazi | ah | 02:43 |
| erstazi | yeah I saw that | 02:43 |
| erstazi | pupnik: what does "a floating-point unit" mean? | 02:43 |
| erstazi | in the context of: "For maximum performance on machines with a floating-point unit (i.e. most of them), don't pass the --enable-fixed to autogen.sh or configure" | 02:43 |
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| erstazi | hi shackan | 02:43 |
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| pupnik | it is a part of a cpu that performs 'floating-point' arithmetic | 02:44 |
| erstazi | o | 02:44 |
| erstazi | so I can safely assume that nokia's tablets use that then huh | 02:45 |
| pupnik | 'floating point' arithmetic is useful for 3D computations and some media applications | 02:45 |
| erstazi | ok | 02:45 |
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| erstazi | pupnik: StrongARM is an older version of ARM right? | 02:45 |
| pupnik | 770 has no floating point that i know of | 02:45 |
| pupnik | StrongARM is intel's variant of ARM architecture based on an older design | 02:46 |
| erstazi | ah yes | 02:46 |
| erstazi | hmm | 02:46 |
| erstazi | even though PocketSphinx is not a full speech-to-text engine, I think its worth a go | 02:48 |
| erstazi | pupnik: are you going to be up for a few hours? if so, do you mind if I ask questions on my route to porting and packaging this? | 02:48 |
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| pupnik | i will be around - let me check | 02:49 |
| erstazi | pupnik: thank you | 02:51 |
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| pupnik | 3.5 hours | 02:52 |
| erstazi | ok | 02:52 |
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| erstazi | pupnik: can I pm you? | 03:07 |
| pupnik | sure | 03:08 |
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| pupnik | that dark blue in LS_COLORS is so unreadable on a crt | 03:30 |
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| * DaniloCesar test | 03:36 | |
| dragorn | Shot in the dark - anyone know how to best handle writeable fds in gtk? gdk_input_add throws it into a CPU loop (somewhat obviously, since the socket is almost always OK for writing) | 03:37 |
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| dragorn | Figure there might be enough gtk using people here to have a chance ;P | 03:37 |
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| pupnik | the 3 europeans with day jobs who also chat in #maemo are asleep - good luck in the usa :) | 03:38 |
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| dragorn | heh | 03:39 |
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| DaniloCesar | Where are U from pupnik? Finland? | 03:41 |
| DaniloCesar | Someone here uses SU 8W | 03:45 |
| DaniloCesar | Someone here uses SU 8W keyboard? | 03:45 |
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| pupnik | germany, no, i don't know | 03:49 |
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| dick-richardson | anyone running openvpn? | 03:52 |
| pupnik | yes | 03:54 |
| DaniloCesar | pupnik, How is your Sierra's game? | 03:55 |
| pupnik | DaniloCesar: freesci is getting better - adlib sound is stable, amiga sound still unstable, menus and loading still unstable | 03:56 |
| pupnik | xlib driver has problems sending millions of 20:38 < pupnik> ioctl(8, FIONREAD, [64]) = 0 | 03:56 |
| pupnik | 20:38 < pupnik> read(8, "\r\301\262\214\2\0\240\1\0\0\220\1\320\2\24\0\0\0\0\0>"..., 64) = 64 | 03:56 |
| pupnik | sdl driver is fairly smooth but keyboard input not working | 03:57 |
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| DaniloCesar | Do you fix the N800 sound bug? | 03:57 |
| pupnik | sound should be smooth on n800 now | 03:58 |
| pupnik | can you test on n800? | 03:58 |
| DaniloCesar | nice... Where can I get your source? | 03:58 |
| pupnik | i will put source on the page - your request is the first | 03:59 |
| DaniloCesar | Yes, but I can´t test the sound now, because I´m in a college class.... | 03:59 |
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| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/freesci_glutton_070721_maemo.tgz | 04:02 |
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| erstazi | what is freesci? | 04:10 |
| _Monkey | freesci is probably the Interpreter/Emulator for Sierra On-Line adventure games. Test and comment! 770/N800 compatible testing version here http://pupnik.de/freesci.html | 04:10 |
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| erstazi | nice | 04:14 |
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| pupnik | i build a .deb of the stable branch but it has even worse performance problems | 04:36 |
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| unique311 | someone hildonized mtpaint.. | 04:53 |
| unique311 | yes | 04:53 |
| unique311 | called faint in the garage.... | 04:53 |
| unique311 | oh happy days | 04:53 |
| NeoStrider | I saw it | 04:55 |
| NeoStrider | but dont know that mtpaint | 04:55 |
| NeoStrider | good? | 04:55 |
| unique311 | no | 04:55 |
| unique311 | false call | 04:55 |
| unique311 | lol | 04:55 |
| unique311 | \they just compiled the danm thing.. | 04:55 |
| unique311 | pupnik and me messed with it, and compiled it a while back. | 04:56 |
| unique311 | just installed the version thats on the garage. | 04:57 |
| unique311 | false call... | 04:57 |
| NeoStrider | ok ok | 04:58 |
| NeoStrider | but mtpaint is good? | 04:58 |
| unique311 | very | 04:59 |
| unique311 | but i'm using mypaint right now...and find it better | 04:59 |
| unique311 | because of the touchscreen sensitivity it takes advantage of. | 05:00 |
| unique311 | make darker, wider lines by pressing harder | 05:00 |
| unique311 | i made this from mtpaint... http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/1091129561/ | 05:02 |
| unique311 | wait this one is from mtpaint http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/1199318198/ | 05:05 |
| unique311 | the first link is from Mypaint | 05:05 |
| NeoStrider | cool! | 05:06 |
| unique311 | mtpaint is too cluttered with stuff on the screen | 05:07 |
| unique311 | fullscreen could really help it out. | 05:07 |
| unique311 | mypaint could also be helped with fullscreen. | 05:08 |
| unique311 | mypaint doesn't play with the 770.. | 05:08 |
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| shawnlower | hey all. I killed the resolv.conf on my 770 without looking at it. Can someone tell me how it's setup -- I have the /tmp/resolv.conf.[ifname] stuff worked out, but it's not resolving. Adding "nameserver 127.0.0.1" doesn't seem to help either | 05:13 |
| shawnlower | I know I can add the name servers manually to /etc/resolv.conf, but I'd like it to actually work with dnsmasq, and changing networks | 05:13 |
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| pupnik | just "nameserver 127.0.0.1" | 05:15 |
| shawnlower | strange. that's what I've got. it must be a dnsmasq problem. it's listening on 127.0.0.1:53, but won't reply to queries.. | 05:17 |
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| unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pww8lqTT7Jg&mode=related&search= | 05:29 |
| unique311 | opengl | 05:29 |
| unique311 | slow | 05:31 |
| [1]a-l-p-h-a | http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapwizard/sets/72157600535652135/ <-- anyone ever done this? | 05:31 |
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| pupnik | clicked on a link without a description? yeah. | 05:32 |
| [1]a-l-p-h-a | hahah glgears. :) wonder what fps it was. | 05:32 |
| artemisprime | lol | 05:32 |
| [1]a-l-p-h-a | pupnik, 5v USB charge mod to a nokia770. | 05:32 |
| pupnik | ah thnks. yeah somebody has done that. | 05:32 |
| unique311 | so opengl for the n800 | 05:33 |
| unique311 | those things were moving slow as hell | 05:33 |
| NeoStrider | that on a n800 | 05:33 |
| unique311 | watching pokylinux running on N800 now | 05:33 |
| pupnik | unique311: gives you an idea how powerful those gpus are | 05:33 |
| unique311 | yes | 05:33 |
| NeoStrider | there is still a need for my rendering scheme =-) | 05:33 |
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| unique311 | actually gives you an idea of why nokia didn't bother | 05:35 |
| pupnik | why? | 05:36 |
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| unique311 | did you see the video? | 05:36 |
| unique311 | slow | 05:37 |
| pupnik | that's not using the powerVR graphics accelerator | 05:37 |
| pupnik | it's rendering in software, afaict | 05:37 |
| [jamez01] | Anybody have advise for a n770 newb trying to install ruby on ITOS2006 v3.2006.49-2? | 05:38 |
| NeoStrider | there is ruby for it? | 05:38 |
| artemisprime | what is ruby ? | 05:39 |
| NeoStrider | a programming language | 05:39 |
| artemisprime | monkey dont know | 05:39 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 05:39 |
| artemisprime | oh | 05:39 |
| unique311 | going to ask the poster of the the video pupnik | 05:39 |
| NeoStrider | never heard of ruby on rails? | 05:39 |
| artemisprime | nope | 05:39 |
| NeoStrider | its quite popular these days | 05:39 |
| [jamez01] | NeoStrider: There is, but from what I can find there have been some changes to OS2006 since the armel build, making it incompatible. | 05:39 |
| NeoStrider | this ruby is from 2005? | 05:40 |
| artemisprime | i see | 05:40 |
| artemisprime | said the blind man | 05:40 |
| [jamez01] | NeoStrider: no, its built for OS2006 but they've "recently" made changes to the OS. I'm not sure how recent "recent" is. | 05:41 |
| artemisprime | is it a good idea to run OS2007 on the 770 ? | 05:41 |
| pupnik | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ogles2 there's the ogl 2.0 library | 05:41 |
| NeoStrider | not really | 05:41 |
| artemisprime | didnt think so | 05:41 |
| NeoStrider | [jamez01]: it 2006 3.2? | 05:41 |
| NeoStrider | isnt 2.2? | 05:41 |
| artemisprime | could it fry your device ? | 05:42 |
| artemisprime | or make it unbootable | 05:42 |
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| artemisprime | ? | 05:42 |
| NeoStrider | artemisprime: may happen | 05:42 |
| [jamez01] | artemisprime: There is a backport of 2007 for the 770, but I'm not sure where to locate it. I think via nokia's site | 05:42 |
| NeoStrider | artemisprime: but mostly you will miss some features | 05:43 |
| artemisprime | well it will be able to run all the stuff for 2007 right | 05:43 |
| pupnik | not all, some programs use n800 hardware | 05:43 |
| [jamez01] | artemisprime: I'm unsure. Have not tried it. I've had my 770 for less then a week now. | 05:43 |
| artemisprime | yeah.. ive had mine for about a month | 05:44 |
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| NeoStrider | mine for a year | 05:44 |
| artemisprime | i guess this page is it | 05:44 |
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| artemisprime | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Os2007On770 | 05:45 |
| NeoStrider | and Im very happy with it2006 2.2 | 05:45 |
| artemisprime | neo: why the old OS ? | 05:45 |
| pupnik | 2.2 is the latest official it2006 | 05:45 |
| artemisprime | i thought it was 3.2 or | 05:45 |
| artemisprime | something\ | 05:46 |
| artemisprime | anyway i have the latest too | 05:46 |
| artemisprime | i checked that | 05:46 |
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| dougb | does pidgin or gaim seem to be more stable on OS2007? | 05:46 |
| artemisprime | dougb: pidgin works fine for me on 2006 | 05:46 |
| dougb | it works for me, except i can't add IRC chat rooms | 05:47 |
| NeoStrider | artemisprime: thats what my users wil be running | 05:47 |
| artemisprime | am i the only one that doesnt have problems with pidgin on 2006 ? | 05:47 |
| NeoStrider | and it sufice for me | 05:47 |
| artemisprime | what users ? | 05:47 |
| NeoStrider | why would I need it2007 on 770? | 05:47 |
| NeoStrider | Angstron users ;-0 | 05:47 |
| NeoStrider | s/-0/-) | 05:47 |
| NeoStrider | s/-0/-)/ | 05:47 |
| infobot | NeoStrider meant: s/-)/-) | 05:47 |
| NeoStrider | ;-) | 05:47 |
| artemisprime | what is angstron ? | 05:48 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it angstron is http://angstron.garage.maemo.org/ | 05:48 |
| NeoStrider | *damn* | 05:48 |
| artemisprime | i installed it | 05:48 |
| artemisprime | and it didnt run | 05:48 |
| NeoStrider | slow as hell, right? | 05:48 |
| artemisprime | just plain didnt run | 05:48 |
| NeoStrider | why, what,how? | 05:48 |
| artemisprime | dunno | 05:49 |
| artemisprime | didnt run for me | 05:49 |
| artemisprime | looks bad anyway | 05:49 |
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| pupnik | how do you know? | 05:50 |
| artemisprime | screenshots | 05:50 |
| _Monkey | screenshots are of the OS | 05:50 |
| pupnik | _Monkey forget screenshots | 05:50 |
| _Monkey | pupnik: I forgot screenshots | 05:50 |
| artemisprime | dont look impressive | 05:51 |
| artemisprime | looks like a vector nightmare | 05:51 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 05:51 |
| pupnik | well tron has a basic look | 05:51 |
| artemisprime | true | 05:51 |
| artemisprime | heheh | 05:51 |
| artemisprime | so does beam rider | 05:52 |
| artemisprime | for coleco | 05:52 |
| artemisprime | that game ownz | 05:52 |
| pupnik | coleco intellivision? | 05:52 |
| artemisprime | colecovision | 05:52 |
| NeoStrider | ok...thanks artemisprime | 05:53 |
| artemisprime | neo: what ? | 05:53 |
| NeoStrider | ;-) | 05:53 |
| artemisprime | eh ? | 05:53 |
| NeoStrider | forget abou tit | 05:53 |
| artemisprime | well all im sayin is i cant get angstrom to run | 05:53 |
| artemisprime | and im not cryin about it | 05:54 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 05:54 |
| NeoStrider | but I am ;-) | 05:54 |
| artemisprime | what is the object of this game | 05:54 |
| artemisprime | why is it so important | 05:54 |
| NeoStrider | again...you're running a 770, right? | 05:54 |
| artemisprime | yes | 05:54 |
| artemisprime | indeed | 05:54 |
| NeoStrider | artemisprime: this is my pet project for the last 2 years | 05:54 |
| NeoStrider | make a viable game engine for the 770 | 05:55 |
| NeoStrider | i've been working tirelessly on it | 05:55 |
| pupnik | (3D) | 05:55 |
| artemisprime | i see | 05:55 |
| artemisprime | so angstrom is just a 3d engine right now | 05:55 |
| artemisprime | not a game | 05:55 |
| artemisprime | and its your project | 05:55 |
| NeoStrider | it is a game made out of a 3d game engine | 05:56 |
| NeoStrider | i first created the game engine | 05:56 |
| NeoStrider | then the game | 05:56 |
| NeoStrider | if you play'd armagetron, you know what to do | 05:56 |
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| artemisprime | i cant run it | 05:57 |
| NeoStrider | what happens? | 05:57 |
| artemisprime | absolutely nothing | 05:57 |
| NeoStrider | have you tried from x-terminal? | 05:57 |
| artemisprime | nope | 05:57 |
| artemisprime | id have to reinstall it | 05:57 |
| NeoStrider | when did you tried? | 05:57 |
| artemisprime | just the other day | 05:58 |
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| artemisprime | ill try to reinstall again | 05:58 |
| NeoStrider | have you placed the data files on the mmc? | 05:58 |
| artemisprime | i downloaded | 05:59 |
| artemisprime | the zip and uncompressed it | 05:59 |
| artemisprime | then installed | 05:59 |
| artemisprime | but i think i deleted it | 05:59 |
| NeoStrider | you missed placing the "storage" folder on the mmc | 05:59 |
| NeoStrider | the newer version already bundles the data files on the .deb | 05:59 |
| NeoStrider | so it should work | 05:59 |
| NeoStrider | I released it last sunday | 05:59 |
| NeoStrider | looking back here on my 770, the engine actually performs good on a simple 3D level | 06:00 |
| artemisprime | im gettin on 770 now | 06:00 |
| NeoStrider | to some extent , I sucedded | 06:00 |
| NeoStrider | the problem is that angstron levels are very unoptimized | 06:01 |
| NeoStrider | and I do most of the optimization just-in-time | 06:01 |
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| * NeoStrider feels somewhat better now | 06:02 | |
| NeoStrider | artemisprime: you conplained about the levels being too "vectorial" . I actually enjoy that look and did that on purpose. SDL_gfx already supports texture mapping | 06:04 |
| artemisprime | right on | 06:05 |
| artemisprime | im trying to get it workin right now | 06:05 |
| dougb | is there a reason that UKMP will load, go to a black screen, then crash? | 06:05 |
| pupnik | NeoStrider is only the second person i've met who has written a 3D engine from scratch :) | 06:05 |
| dougb | i have an n800 with the newest OS and software | 06:05 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik: this is my forth game engine from scratch, and the third to do all the 3D by itself | 06:06 |
| artemisprime | im sure its quite impressive if i could get it to run :) | 06:06 |
| NeoStrider | I did some tests with OpenGL and just plain hate it | 06:06 |
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| NeoStrider | hey DaniloCesar | 06:07 |
| artemisprime | i want alpha 5 ? | 06:07 |
| NeoStrider | yeah | 06:08 |
| NeoStrider | its the newer | 06:08 |
| DaniloCesar | Hi Daniel | 06:08 |
| artemisprime | i think i had the other version before | 06:08 |
| NeoStrider | I just noticed some issues with it, but it will work | 06:08 |
| artemisprime | i had to uncompress | 06:08 |
| NeoStrider | the new one is just the .deb with everything inside it | 06:08 |
| NeoStrider | just install it and you're ready to go | 06:08 |
| artemisprime | awesome | 06:09 |
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| artemisprime | ok it runs now | 06:11 |
| artemisprime | but it crashes itself | 06:11 |
| artemisprime | after it starts | 06:11 |
| NeoStrider | try running it from x-terminal | 06:11 |
| artemisprime | like after the 3 2 1 | 06:11 |
| artemisprime | whats the path ? | 06:12 |
| NeoStrider | no need for path | 06:12 |
| NeoStrider | just type "angstron" | 06:12 |
| artemisprime | k | 06:12 |
| Luria_ | goddamn gallery 2 | 06:12 |
| * Luria_ rants | 06:12 | |
| * Luria_ rants sum'more | 06:13 | |
| * Luria_ goes back ta lurking | 06:13 | |
| artemisprime | ok | 06:13 |
| artemisprime | it runs | 06:13 |
| artemisprime | no crash | 06:13 |
| NeoStrider | \o/ | 06:13 |
| NeoStrider | slow | 06:14 |
| artemisprime | but whats the point | 06:14 |
| _Monkey | the point is that it does it internally, without rubbing it into Mikho's face | 06:14 |
| NeoStrider | but runs | 06:14 |
| artemisprime | what do i do ? | 06:14 |
| NeoStrider | _Monkey: forget the point | 06:14 |
| _Monkey | NeoStrider: I forgot point | 06:14 |
| NeoStrider | you must enclose the other bike on your trail | 06:14 |
| NeoStrider | he leaves a trail too and will try to do the same with with u | 06:14 |
| NeoStrider | your trail is reddish, his are bluish | 06:14 |
| NeoStrider | you have the green "radar" to help you | 06:15 |
| artemisprime | i dont see any trails | 06:16 |
| artemisprime | this is impossible | 06:16 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 06:16 |
| NeoStrider | you're leaving it behind | 06:16 |
| NeoStrider | when you get close your foe, you will see it on the floor | 06:16 |
| artemisprime | i keep running into the purple wall | 06:17 |
| NeoStrider | use left and right to do a 45° turn | 06:17 |
| NeoStrider | sorry | 06:17 |
| NeoStrider | s/45/90/ | 06:18 |
| NeoStrider | just press left and right | 06:18 |
| NeoStrider | and be calm | 06:18 |
| pupnik | some more camera angles might help also - e.g. a more top-down one | 06:18 |
| NeoStrider | yeah...im working on it | 06:18 |
| NeoStrider | but its not that simple | 06:19 |
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| NeoStrider | while the BZK (the underlying engine) is a full 3D game engine, it just support XZ transformations | 06:19 |
| NeoStrider | so I cant look up and down | 06:19 |
| artemisprime | yeah | 06:19 |
| artemisprime | i cant see whats going on | 06:19 |
| artemisprime | i get the point | 06:20 |
| artemisprime | and nice rendering | 06:20 |
| NeoStrider | thx | 06:20 |
| artemisprime | but its unplayable | 06:20 |
| NeoStrider | you just need to get used to it =-) | 06:20 |
| NeoStrider | I play it all the time | 06:20 |
| artemisprime | well i wont uninstall it again | 06:20 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 06:20 |
| NeoStrider | =-) | 06:20 |
| artemisprime | cuz it runs now | 06:20 |
| artemisprime | rc4 wasnt workin | 06:20 |
| NeoStrider | I indeed put a sleep on the desktop version to make it play like the 770 version | 06:20 |
| NeoStrider | (on desktop its unplayable fast) | 06:21 |
| artemisprime | for debian ? | 06:21 |
| NeoStrider | I will produce a video tutorial very soon =-) | 06:21 |
| NeoStrider | yeah. made with ubuntu | 06:21 |
| NeoStrider | but its not on repos | 06:21 |
| artemisprime | oh | 06:22 |
| NeoStrider | and about the rendering speed, im working on it | 06:22 |
| NeoStrider | its too slow | 06:22 |
| NeoStrider | working on it RIGHT NOW | 06:22 |
| artemisprime | cool | 06:22 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 06:22 |
| artemisprime | i dont program | 06:23 |
| NeoStrider | if you want to try other levels, just type "angstron level2.bzk2" to "angstron level6.bzk2" | 06:23 |
| artemisprime | so i cant criticize your work | 06:23 |
| artemisprime | ;) | 06:23 |
| NeoStrider | yes you can | 06:23 |
| NeoStrider | you're the costumer | 06:23 |
| NeoStrider | my target | 06:23 |
| NeoStrider | ur part of the ecosystem | 06:24 |
| artemisprime | true | 06:24 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 06:24 |
| artemisprime | right | 06:24 |
| NeoStrider | not only you can, but you should | 06:24 |
| NeoStrider | maybe my ashtethics for vectorial looks isnt the best thing | 06:24 |
| erstazi | vector can be difficult for anything | 06:25 |
| NeoStrider | maybe I should explain more about the game before throwing the level | 06:25 |
| NeoStrider | I just plain love this 80ish look | 06:25 |
| NeoStrider | I grew playing games like that | 06:26 |
| NeoStrider | tempest, starfox, you know | 06:26 |
| artemisprime | running | 06:26 |
| artemisprime | angstron level2.bzk2 crashed it | 06:26 |
| NeoStrider | Im quite proud of level3.bzk2 and level6.bzk2 | 06:26 |
| NeoStrider | yes, I noticed this one. Im investigating | 06:26 |
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| artemisprime | level3 works | 06:28 |
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| artemisprime | so to pass a level you must make the foe crash | 06:29 |
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| artemisprime | kinda like 3d 2 player snake | 06:29 |
| NeoStrider | exactly! | 06:29 |
| artemisprime | but its just that i cant see my foe | 06:29 |
| artemisprime | thats the problem | 06:29 |
| NeoStrider | I indeed had some ideas of making some multilevel maps...but the render couldnt handle it well | 06:29 |
| artemisprime | the radar doesnt seem to help | 06:29 |
| NeoStrider | humm...what could be improved on the radar? | 06:30 |
| artemisprime | it doesnt mAKE sense tome | 06:30 |
| NeoStrider | well.. it doesnt show the top view of the arena, but whats ahead of you | 06:31 |
| NeoStrider | its like a sonar | 06:31 |
| artemisprime | i keep dying and i dont know why | 06:31 |
| artemisprime | it like all of a sudden | 06:31 |
| NeoStrider | but I think I noticed some bugs on it | 06:31 |
| NeoStrider | have you pressed "down"? | 06:32 |
| NeoStrider | or maybe left/right to many times repeatly? | 06:32 |
| artemisprime | nope | 06:32 |
| artemisprime | neither | 06:32 |
| _Monkey | neither is yahoo | 06:32 |
| NeoStrider | humm | 06:32 |
| artemisprime | should i press down ? | 06:32 |
| NeoStrider | no | 06:32 |
| NeoStrider | I should indeed stop handling that key | 06:33 |
| NeoStrider | it breaks the bike and makes you pass over your own trail | 06:33 |
| NeoStrider | have you passed over the blue trail? | 06:33 |
| artemisprime | wait | 06:34 |
| artemisprime | i get it now | 06:34 |
| artemisprime | i beat level 1 | 06:34 |
| artemisprime | hehe | 06:34 |
| NeoStrider | great! | 06:34 |
| artemisprime | gees | 06:34 |
| artemisprime | if it was faster that would be bad | 06:34 |
| NeoStrider | the trick it to avoid dying and let the foe die from his own dumbness | 06:35 |
| artemisprime | after i won the match | 06:35 |
| NeoStrider | yeah...you should see on my PC hhahahha | 06:35 |
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| artemisprime | it returned me back to desktop | 06:35 |
| NeoStrider | hummm | 06:35 |
| NeoStrider | try "angstron level3.bzk2" | 06:35 |
| artemisprime | i did | 06:35 |
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| artemisprime | then it put me back to level 1 | 06:35 |
| artemisprime | after a while | 06:36 |
| artemisprime | then it beat level 1 | 06:36 |
| artemisprime | and then it crashed | 06:36 |
| NeoStrider | yeah...it temporaritly replaces level1 with level3 | 06:36 |
| NeoStrider | I will fix that tomorow in the morning | 06:36 |
| artemisprime | what do u mean ? | 06:36 |
| NeoStrider | ?? | 06:36 |
| artemisprime | i was playin level 3 first | 06:37 |
| artemisprime | then it went back to level 1 | 06:37 |
| NeoStrider | yes...see, there is these slots for the levels | 06:37 |
| artemisprime | after dying several times | 06:37 |
| artemisprime | how many levels are there ? | 06:37 |
| NeoStrider | when calling that special command line, you temporary replace it with a new level | 06:37 |
| NeoStrider | 7 levels | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | 2 for training, 3 with regular foes and 2 bosses | 06:38 |
| artemisprime | gotcha | 06:38 |
| artemisprime | im trying 6 now | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | the trainging ones get the green bike foe - a hologram | 06:38 |
| pupnik | i love the 'Select location' in angstron install... | 06:38 |
| artemisprime | no dice | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | the regular biker is grey with dark gray bike | 06:38 |
| NeoStrider | and there is the bosses | 06:38 |
| artemisprime | on level6 | 06:38 |
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| NeoStrider | pupnik: ??? | 06:39 |
| pupnik | just need that dialog for data files in these big ports | 06:39 |
| pupnik | nevermind i'll study the .deb | 06:39 |
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| NeoStrider | pupnik: just shamelessly stole it from bomberman autotools files (MaemoWizard) | 06:39 |
| NeoStrider | just understood the problem with level2.bzk2 | 06:40 |
| NeoStrider | permissions | 06:40 |
| NeoStrider | I must set it again on the package and re-upload it | 06:40 |
| artemisprime | cant run 6 or 7 either | 06:40 |
| artemisprime | same as 2 | 06:40 |
| NeoStrider | let me try here | 06:40 |
| NeoStrider | probably the same thing | 06:41 |
| artemisprime | 4 works | 06:41 |
| NeoStrider | (7 doesnt exist) | 06:41 |
| NeoStrider | the first level is level 0 | 06:41 |
| artemisprime | oh | 06:41 |
| NeoStrider | yeah...6 is not working | 06:41 |
| artemisprime | i get it | 06:41 |
| NeoStrider | it is actually start.bzk2 | 06:42 |
| NeoStrider | the engine automaticly loads a start.bzk2 as a default map | 06:42 |
| NeoStrider | (sort of a index.html) | 06:42 |
| artemisprime | right | 06:42 |
| NeoStrider | try level5 | 06:42 |
| artemisprime | level5.bzk2 | 06:42 |
| artemisprime | ? | 06:42 |
| NeoStrider | yes | 06:42 |
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| artemisprime | work | 06:43 |
| NeoStrider | good | 06:43 |
| NeoStrider | its boss1 | 06:44 |
| NeoStrider | the IA is no diferent from the others yet | 06:44 |
| NeoStrider | but it will improve on the next release | 06:44 |
| artemisprime | i won | 06:44 |
| artemisprime | first try | 06:44 |
| artemisprime | nice | 06:44 |
| NeoStrider | cool =-) | 06:45 |
| NeoStrider | the "fade" efect looks good enough? | 06:45 |
| artemisprime | what do u mean ? | 06:45 |
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| NeoStrider | the effect of the picture fading to black | 06:45 |
| NeoStrider | on my desktop it looked better | 06:45 |
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| artemisprime | when the game is over | 06:46 |
| artemisprime | yes that works | 06:46 |
| artemisprime | nice | 06:46 |
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| NeoStrider | there is some issues on the SDL port of the 770 that you just see when you run the game on it | 06:47 |
| Luria_ | website nearly unhosed. +1 me | 06:47 |
| artemisprime | i dunno | 06:47 |
| artemisprime | i gotta hit the hay though | 06:47 |
| artemisprime | goodnight | 06:48 |
| Luria_ | now to find a radio and file that bug i promised to file | 06:48 |
| NeoStrider | me too | 06:48 |
| artemisprime | nice work neo | 06:48 |
| NeoStrider | thanks for you time =-) | 06:48 |
| artemisprime | sure | 06:48 |
| NeoStrider | thank you | 06:48 |
| artemisprime | no prob | 06:48 |
| artemisprime | 'night | 06:48 |
| NeoStrider | night | 06:48 |
| pupnik | the map should show the walls | 06:48 |
| NeoStrider | hum...ok.. I will try that tomorrow | 06:49 |
| Luria_ | yo Darksmurf-770, you around? | 06:49 |
| * NeoStrider writes it to the list | 06:49 | |
| pupnik | well just an idea :) | 06:49 |
| Luria_ | no, it's now a feature request. | 06:49 |
| NeoStrider | got my first! \o | 06:49 |
| Darksmurf-770 | Yeah | 06:50 |
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| NeoStrider | got to go | 06:50 |
| NeoStrider | cya! | 06:50 |
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| Darksmurf-770 | So weird seeing an irc chat in my hands while walking around. The thumb keyboard works well. | 06:51 |
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| Luria_ | Darksmurf-770, what radios did you have? | 06:53 |
| Luria_ | its funny, i went off looking for one, and now im leaning to getting a yaesu vx-7r... which is in the picture with the n800 on hildonham | 06:54 |
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| Darksmurf-770 | Mostly handhelds. Vx7 was great for a tri-bander. It did 2m,6m,440mhz and low power on 220. Iirc. | 06:55 |
| Darksmurf-770 | I was typing that before you said that. | 06:56 |
| Luria_ | heh | 06:56 |
| Luria_ | which is the best... "version" to get | 06:56 |
| Luria_ | i have no intent to break any fcc laws, but i am in europe, sometimes and i hate artificial limitations... | 06:57 |
| Darksmurf-770 | Vx2 was a nice low power ht. For cheap single band look at the vx150. That thing is a brick. | 06:57 |
| Luria_ | i was looking at the 170/177 | 06:57 |
| Luria_ | but i hate having a bunch of sets | 06:58 |
| Darksmurf-770 | The uk has different band splits for repeaters. Go with the uk ver | 06:58 |
| Luria_ | is there a cell unblock for the vx-7r (or conversely, a 220 mod for the eu model) | 06:59 |
| Darksmurf-770 | Err, i misread that. Get the us. | 06:59 |
| Luria_ | ah | 06:59 |
| Darksmurf-770 | Let me get a keyboard,..brb | 07:00 |
| Luria_ | np | 07:00 |
| Luria_ | i know how you feel | 07:00 |
| Darksmurf-770 | ok, this is much better | 07:02 |
| Darksmurf-770 | USB Host mode rocks. | 07:02 |
| Luria_ | nice | 07:02 |
| [1]a-l-p-h-a | is there a nokia 770 USB host mode?? | 07:03 |
| Darksmurf-770 | ok. The VX7 can be modded for out of band use. It'll open up anything the hardware is capable to tx-ing on if you open it up far enough. There are other ways to make it into just a UK radio, or just USA, etc. | 07:03 |
| Darksmurf-770 | yeah. It works quite well. its the main reason I got the 770 | 07:03 |
| Darksmurf-770 | I'm using a USB keyboard right now. | 07:03 |
| Darksmurf-770 | It will be nice to be in class taking notes on this thing. :-) | 07:04 |
| Darksmurf-770 | Luria the VX7 is a great radio. It'll be the last radio you buy. That said, it does a LOT. You may think about getting another, simpler radio also. I've found that a simple radio works better in some situations (namely when volenteering, etc.) | 07:05 |
| Luria_ | right | 07:06 |
| Luria_ | but im in nyc | 07:06 |
| Luria_ | so id like as much versatility - | 07:06 |
| Darksmurf-770 | You'll love it no matter what. | 07:06 |
| Luria_ | cause i dont have a ton of room, space wise or band wise | 07:06 |
| Darksmurf-770 | It'll work very well as a 'base' radio if you put an outside antenna. I bet you'll be able to get out quite well from an apartment. | 07:07 |
| Darksmurf-770 | afk..gotta check the steaks... | 07:07 |
| Luria_ | i just seems silly to have a .5k-1ghz discriminator and then lopping off 20% | 07:07 |
| Darksmurf-770 | back | 07:09 |
| Blacksitox | dew | 07:09 |
| Darksmurf-770 | oh yeah, the cell block. Forgot your question about that. As far as I know there is no way around it. | 07:09 |
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| Darksmurf-770 | It sucks because it blocks most RX on the ham 900mhz band. I've got a few motorola 900 trunking radios, but I dont have too many 900 receivers. | 07:10 |
| Darksmurf-770 | oh, and if you can find someone to program motorola gear you can get 2m and 70cm gear CHEAP. | 07:11 |
| Luria_ | so then perhaps its best to get a jap/eu model? | 07:12 |
| Luria_ | but those dont have 220 (out of the box at least) | 07:13 |
| Darksmurf-770 | I'd get the US. I gotta go, dinner is calling | 07:13 |
| Luria_ | k thanks | 07:13 |
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| dougb | Does anyone know if gparted will fix an SD card that was corrupted by an n800? | 07:16 |
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| Blacksitox | re | 07:17 |
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| pupnik | yes | 07:24 |
| dougb | Is that directed at me? | 07:24 |
| pupnik | yes | 07:25 |
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| dougb | Ok thanks! | 07:25 |
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| erstazi | pupnik: I got response from what I believe is the lead of PocketSphinx | 07:28 |
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| erstazi | I sent an email | 07:28 |
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| pupnik | erstazi: what cpu performance does it require? | 07:32 |
| erstazi | mmm not sure | 07:32 |
| erstazi | but its minimal | 07:32 |
| erstazi | PocketSphinx is optimized for embedded systems | 07:32 |
| pupnik | nice | 07:32 |
| erstazi | and he said he has it working on a n800 | 07:32 |
| erstazi | but it needs gstreamer plug in or some sort | 07:32 |
| erstazi | https://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cmusphinx/trunk/gst-pocketsphinx/ | 07:33 |
| erstazi | so I am sure that can work somehow with OS2006 | 07:33 |
| Luria_ | oh hot | 07:35 |
| Luria_ | now i can use irc when im in the bathtub | 07:35 |
| erstazi | haha | 07:35 |
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| Luria_ | i drove dougb off, apparently | 07:37 |
| Luria_ | the thought of me whispering and repeating sweet nothings (and then repeating, clearly) to my n800 was just too much for him. | 07:38 |
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| tigert | morning | 07:57 |
| _Monkey | aloha | 07:57 |
| Luria_ | _Monkey? | 08:00 |
| _Monkey | Luria_? | 08:00 |
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| Luria_ | _Monkey, _Monkey ? | 08:00 |
| _Monkey | i heard i was the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now | 08:00 |
| erstazi | anyone ever get this? "parsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted trailer line, at changelog line 5" | 08:03 |
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| erstazi | ugh | 08:09 |
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| zuh | Debian package tools tend to be picky about the changelog format, what does line 5 look like? | 08:22 |
| erstazi | zuh: I got it fixed, it was the maintainer part... not between the email and date... but before the email | 08:24 |
| erstazi | there were two new lines and I correct that | 08:24 |
| erstazi | zuh: what is the easiest way to handle 3 packages? one main package and 2 dependencies? | 08:25 |
| erstazi | meta-package? | 08:25 |
| zuh | Depends on how they relate to each other of course, and whether they are useful on their own. | 08:25 |
| erstazi | neither are useful on their one... one is an extension of gstreamer | 08:25 |
| erstazi | s/their one/their own/ | 08:26 |
| infobot | erstazi meant: neither are useful on their own... one is an extension of gstreamer | 08:26 |
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| Lynoure | I was given a N770, and I did not look at what was in it before flashing. After flashing it shows a tool icon, and green text (version information), then boots normally. Same on every boot. The touchscreen is also a bit unresponsive. Did something go wrong with flashing or does the green text and icon mean this was a devel version, or something? | 08:37 |
| derf | Green text means the device is in R&D mode. | 08:39 |
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| Lynoure | How does one get it out of that mode? | 08:40 |
| derf | You can disable R&D mode with the flasher tool. | 08:40 |
| Lynoure | I wish I knew how | 08:40 |
| derf | Run the flasher with --help | 08:40 |
| Lynoure | What does R&D mode do? Research and developement, but how does it affect the device? | 08:41 |
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| derf | Mainly it prints out that text and it allows sudo gainroot to work without messing with ssh. | 08:42 |
| derf | I can't remember if it also shows you all the packages in the package manager like red pill mode, also. | 08:42 |
| Lynoure | so maybe I want to activate later, but not during the user-device honeymoon | 08:43 |
| derf | I run my device in R&D mode all the time. | 08:43 |
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| Lynoure | probably because you use it, I assume | 08:44 |
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| Lynoure | This baby is significantly more sluggish that the other n770, weird. | 08:47 |
| Lynoure | s/that/than | 08:51 |
| Lynoure | I notice it even when they are not side by side, but especially when they are. | 08:52 |
| pupnik | mhehe | 08:56 |
| pupnik | @ "device honeymoon" | 08:57 |
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| Lynoure | Do these things usually require more pressure when they get older, or it the touchscreen pressure configurable somewhere? | 09:07 |
| lle2 | Lynoure: the touchscreen gets wears out over time, requiring you to press harder to get the same pressure value | 09:08 |
| lle2 | but it shouldn't affect stylus use | 09:09 |
| Lynoure | here something does | 09:09 |
| lle2 | only finger detection | 09:09 |
| Lynoure | But I'm a small woman, not using much force to start with | 09:09 |
| lle2 | hmm, how bad is it? | 09:10 |
| Lynoure | if anything, actually, finger use seems more reactive | 09:10 |
| Lynoure | much more reactive. | 09:10 |
| lle2 | what about the stylus? if you try to draw a continuous line in sketch, does it break? | 09:11 |
| Lynoure | lle2: so bad it makes it near hateful to use with stylus... | 09:11 |
| Lynoure | I'll try | 09:11 |
| Lynoure | I should send you a screensho =) | 09:12 |
| Lynoure | "what line, how do I get anything on the screen" | 09:12 |
| lle2 | Lynoure: if you have a digicam, please take a picture | 09:13 |
| Lynoure | then some dots and dashes with my normal pressure | 09:13 |
| lle2 | Lynoure: I've seen one other touchscreen with that kind of degradation problem, it would be really good if you could send it back to Nokia for repair | 09:14 |
| Lynoure | I was given this one | 09:16 |
| Lynoure | probably no warranty left, certainly no receipt | 09:16 |
| lle2 | hmm, that's a 770, right? | 09:16 |
| Lynoure | yes | 09:16 |
| Lynoure | Middle part has only dots, and those only on the right hand side of the screen, top and bottom do better | 09:17 |
| lle2 | I'll ask the hw guys what policy we have with beyond warranty touchscreen trouble | 09:18 |
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| lle2 | it's just that it would actually benefit us if we got our hands on that touchscreen | 09:19 |
| Lynoure | if I draw vertical lines, it looks like someone watering grass | 09:19 |
| lle2 | clearly totally broken | 09:19 |
| Lynoure | lle2: well, it's such pain to use that I'll let anyone get their hands on it, as long as I get it back eventually | 09:20 |
| Lynoure | (It's still somewhat useful as a PDF reader, that does not take much touching) | 09:21 |
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| Lynoure | lle2: I got a non-totally blurry photo of that... I'll put it up somewhere soon | 09:24 |
| lle2 | Lynoure: thanks | 09:24 |
| Lynoure | http://lynoure.org/pict2005.jpg | 09:26 |
| Lynoure | I know the right side can do slightly bettet than that, the horizontal lines were non-existent only on the left, and just spotty-dashy on the right (more badly in the middle). But the photo of that got way blurry | 09:28 |
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| lle2 | Lynoure: ok, I think this is probably partly the same issue as with n800 | 09:29 |
| Lynoure | If it helps someone to disect the device, I'd say go ahead :) | 09:29 |
| lle2 | no need for hammers and tongs yet, I'd say a simple kernel bypass surgery is enough | 09:30 |
| Lynoure | (I'll need to dash to work in about 4min, you can mgs me here, or reach me by lynoure@gmail.com/+35844 2770141) | 09:31 |
| Lynoure | or just talk to me on the channel, it'll highlight too... | 09:33 |
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| mk8 | Hi to all | 09:45 |
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| pupnik | you should check out sidux if you like debian Lynoure | 10:11 |
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| unique311 | How do i find out which com port IR is using? on my notebook, running xp pro | 10:36 |
| unique311 | built in IR | 10:36 |
| unique311 | does built in use a com port? | 10:37 |
| unique311 | pretty sure thats why the signals are not being picked up. | 10:37 |
| unique311 | nvm | 10:38 |
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| tigert | wow, nice thunderstorm | 10:57 |
| dpb_ | indeed | 10:57 |
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| zuh | Hopefully it'll clear up before it's time to go home... | 10:59 |
| zuh | I mean it's nice to look at it, behind a window | 10:59 |
| tigert | yes | 10:59 |
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| dpb_ | Hopefully it'll clear up before I get hungry :) | 11:00 |
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| zuh | Fortunately I have some lunch in the fridge, no need to go out :) | 11:01 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 11:10 |
| keesj | Hi | 11:10 |
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| timelE61i | tigert: sounds like home office is dead :) | 11:28 |
| tigert | heh | 11:28 |
| tigert | timelE61i: mine works still | 11:28 |
| tigert | the storm is heading that way though | 11:28 |
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| timelE61i | R&d mode enables your device to run out of battery much faster | 11:30 |
| timelE61i | lle: i sent you a patch a while ago, right? | 11:30 |
| timelE61i | luria: note that the hardware arrow keys work, unlike vkb tab | 11:31 |
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| sp3000 | hmm, my router seems to have two less lan ports this morning | 11:32 |
| timelE61i | lol | 11:32 |
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| pupnik_afk | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1658315558785013776 Sherry Peel Jackson and the Income Tax - 1 hr 42 min | 11:59 |
| sp3000 | fewer, even | 12:00 |
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| pupnik_afk | great speech by her - i'd never seen it before | 12:02 |
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| lle2 | timelE61i: yeah, but it's stuck in my nokia mailbox | 12:20 |
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| cosmo | any ideas why apt-get update ignores my local repository? Ign file: ./ Release | 12:48 |
| cosmo | sources.list entry is deb file:///home/vranki/alldebs/ ./ | 12:49 |
| cosmo | i've built the Packages.gz with dpkg-scanpackages | 12:49 |
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| unique311 | http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=332251 | 12:54 |
| unique311 | cool | 12:54 |
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| lardman | morning all | 13:35 |
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| greygusb | re | 14:21 |
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| greygusb | i love the new kagu player :) | 14:28 |
| Gigabites | i love it's ad2p ability | 14:28 |
| greygusb | yeah, mostly the working forward/backward button support :) | 14:29 |
| Gigabites | the new queue feature isn't bad either | 14:29 |
| Gigabites | but i still like the way ukmp looks and feels more | 14:30 |
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| greygusb | queue feature? | 14:34 |
| greygusb | haven't seen that yet, what is it? | 14:35 |
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| Gigabites | * Editable playlist support: Enqueue whole album, individual song, and clear playlist buttons | 14:41 |
| Gigabites | new in the 1.0.6 version | 14:42 |
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| whaq__ | n800 is so yummy | 14:57 |
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| greygusb | mh, sounds nice, will have to look for it | 15:01 |
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| greygusb | i see, just need the new version :) | 15:03 |
| lardman | That a2dp is a bit of a pita isn't it, need to decode from something e.g. mp3, then re-encode to sbc | 15:05 |
| Gigabites | it's a total kludge, but who cares, it works | 15:07 |
| lardman | oh yes, would be nice on the dsp though | 15:08 |
| Gigabites | until nokia gets it's collective head out of it's ass and puts bluetooth profiles like it should have back in the 770, it's all we have | 15:08 |
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| oelewapperke | is there a mirror for maemo.org.br ? | 15:08 |
| lardman | what will that do to lowe cpu consumption of a2dp? | 15:08 |
| Gigabites | make it part of he firmware and write the correct libs to use instead of kludging it? | 15:09 |
| Gigabites | should do wonders | 15:09 |
| lardman | yeah, but that relies on Nokia writing a DSP task for it | 15:09 |
| Gigabites | like i said, nokia needs to do it | 15:10 |
| Gigabites | even just a plain bluetooth headset profile would be good for now, so peoplecan use a bt headset with skype | 15:10 |
| Gigabites | but noooo they leav out that | 15:10 |
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| lardman | :) | 15:11 |
| Gigabites | instead they give us a crappy cam and near useless video chat software | 15:11 |
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| lardman | write your won then | 15:11 |
| lardman | own even | 15:12 |
| Gigabites | like i said nokia has to do it | 15:12 |
| lardman | ought to do it, they don;t have to do anything | 15:13 |
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| Gigabites | sure they do, even a simple thing like a bluetooth profile that is available on *all* their cell phones would have been logical | 15:14 |
| lardman | Anyone seen a good guide to XDAIS? I'm interested to know if we can hook into the existing DSP tasks somehow | 15:14 |
| Gigabites | after all, it's an N series device...a consumer device | 15:14 |
| X-Fade_ | lardman: Some company seems to have done SBC on C55x.. | 15:15 |
| X-Fade_ | iWALTZ consists of Bluetooth audio (A2DP) and remote control (AVRCP) profiles, ARM9 and TI C55x DSP optimized Sub-band encoder (SBC) | 15:16 |
| lardman | What's stopping someone from hacking together a proof of concept then for the headset profile? | 15:16 |
| X-Fade_ | Not open source though :( | 15:16 |
| lardman | X-Fade_: yeah, it's certainly possible, just means someone needs to write an mp3 decoder and an sbc encoder all in one go | 15:16 |
| X-Fade_ | Yeah, that would be the best option. Having sound go through the dsp twice is not optimal.. | 15:18 |
| lardman | I don't know how to access the bt harware (of if it's possible), as then it would never have to come out again | 15:18 |
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| lardman | Ideally one would be able to stack codecs together to decode from some arbitrary format and re-encode into another (sbc in this case) | 15:19 |
| lardman | GStreamer on a DSP! | 15:19 |
| lardman | :) | 15:19 |
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| whaq__ | Does skype on n800 work with a bluetooth headset then? | 15:22 |
| lardman | presumably not, I was just wondering what was stopping someone from doing a similar hack to the a2dp one to get it working | 15:23 |
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| Gigabites | whaq, no | 15:24 |
| whaq__ | argh.. hopefully on the next firmware, eh | 15:24 |
| Gigabites | lard, besides the fact that skype isn't open? | 15:24 |
| whaq__ | Nokia's developments on the n800 doesn't seem to be that transparent.. | 15:24 |
| Gigabites | the app has to support it | 15:24 |
| greygusb | hm | 15:24 |
| lardman | Gigabites: Ah, there is that. Will it work with anything else? Or couldnt' the audio data be intercepted? | 15:25 |
| greygusb | the queue feature in kagu player is really cool, just - how can i remove files from the queue or even edit it? | 15:25 |
| whaq__ | I think I saw a changelog of the latest kagu mentioning queue edit function.. | 15:26 |
| greygusb | i'm to stupid to find the button i guess | 15:26 |
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| Gigabites | grey, https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/ticket/94 | 15:27 |
| Gigabites | er ooops | 15:28 |
| Gigabites | that has nothing to do with what you were asking, sorry | 15:28 |
| greygusb | ok, then i stop wondering ;) | 15:29 |
| Gigabites | the author is still streamlining the playlist function | 15:29 |
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| greygusb | giga, sure I don't expect wonders, actually i'm more happy with kagu than with most other available players ;) | 15:32 |
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| erstazi | hello everyone | 15:35 |
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| lardman | bye | 15:53 |
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| erstazi | GStreamer? | 16:07 |
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| erstazi | _Monkey is missing ): | 16:15 |
| greygusb | mh, testing on maemo only gets tracked in the wiki, right? | 16:20 |
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| keesj | erstazi: what happend to it? | 16:28 |
| keesj | or her | 16:28 |
| erstazi | keesj: _Monkey is abot | 16:30 |
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| erstazi | s/abot/a bot/ | 16:30 |
| infobot | erstazi meant: keesj: _Monkey is a bot | 16:30 |
| keesj | erstazi: that does not answer my question | 16:31 |
| erstazi | keesj: haha not sure, I think the owner shut down for the night/day? | 16:31 |
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| NeoStrider | hey folks | 16:37 |
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| NeoStrider | hey...how do I chmod something for all users? | 16:45 |
| NeoStrider | chmod +rw *.bzk2 (where do I specify it is for all users?) | 16:45 |
| erstazi | NeoStrider: for all users? | 16:45 |
| NeoStrider | yeah | 16:45 |
| greygusb | wgats all users ? | 16:45 |
| NeoStrider | I have the options owner, group, filegroup , all | 16:45 |
| tommim | chmod ugo+rw | 16:45 |
| NeoStrider | thanks | 16:45 |
| erstazi | tommim: I was just going to type that ahah | 16:46 |
| greygusb | chmod 666 | 16:46 |
| greygusb | ? | 16:46 |
| erstazi | I need to sleep | 16:46 |
| kulve | chmod a+rwx | 16:46 |
| tommim | ;) | 16:46 |
| NeoStrider | i did ugoa | 16:46 |
| NeoStrider | how do I use the octal mode? | 16:47 |
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| NeoStrider | ok | 16:48 |
| NeoStrider | did it | 16:48 |
| NeoStrider | thanks! | 16:48 |
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| erstazi | wb pupnik | 18:35 |
| pupnik | servus | 18:36 |
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| alterego | Grrr .. It's so annoying how when you plug head phones in the master volume turns down >:( | 18:48 |
| pupnik | good safety feature imo | 18:51 |
| pupnik | i have good headphones and the output is enough to hurt | 18:51 |
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| pupnik | don't like the default vi colorscheme? comments too dark blue? in vi type :colorscheme and tab tab to go through different colorschemes for your source hilighting. i like "delek" so far | 18:56 |
| timelE61i | Whaq__: nokia/maemo is trying to convert from totally closed to fairly open. It's not a simple process, but complaining here is mostly insulting... Contribute where things are open. Build a positive reputation and then lobby | 18:57 |
| Blacksitox | re | 18:58 |
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| pupnik | koehler is also good - control statements bright yellow is goodness | 19:02 |
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| whaq__ | timelE61i: I'd say my previous comment was an observation, which you've confirmed. Not a complaint, nor did I ever think of insulting the fine people who develop for the Maemo platform. | 19:26 |
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| Emh5945 | Does anybody know how to install swfdec or gnash o | 19:27 |
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| Emh5945 | On the 770 | 19:27 |
| zuh | Emh5945: You do realize that they are not going to be fast enough to be useful? | 19:31 |
| Emh5945 | I know, but i just would like to try | 19:33 |
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| zuh | I guess you could install the SDK and compile them from sources then, I doubt anyone has made packages for them | 19:34 |
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| Emh5945 | Sorry, i'm new, how would i do that? | 19:35 |
| zuh | I guess http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html would be the place to start | 19:37 |
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| Emh5945 | Thank you | 19:40 |
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| pupnik | yaay fixed my onscreen buttons \o/ - one step closer to a release :) | 20:21 |
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| pupnik | ~One bug at a time... sweet jesus. One bug at a time... sweet lord.~ | 20:22 |
| NeoStrider | pupnik: what app? | 20:23 |
| pupnik | Ur Quan Masters | 20:24 |
| pupnik | btw on angstron when i started the default level i saw no textures, then at some points i saw textures again | 20:25 |
| pupnik | it was pretty strange looking | 20:25 |
| pupnik | Beereward for me! | 20:27 |
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| NeoStrider | it wasnt textures...it was the backdrop =-) | 20:28 |
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| NeoStrider | sometimes the render leaves a hole | 20:28 |
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| NeoStrider | its somewhat normal...lots of games does that | 20:28 |
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| NeoStrider | if only my clipping worked, I could have a huge speed boost right now. I did some cool optimization...but the render leaves huge holes becouse I do poor man's clipping | 20:30 |
| NeoStrider | I must do my clipping correctly...then , angstron will do very fast... | 20:32 |
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| whaq__ | Do you guys read RSS on your ITs? | 20:40 |
| timelE61i | whaq: microb can :) | 20:40 |
| whaq__ | (And is the built-in RSS reader adequate for your need?) | 20:40 |
| whaq__ | oh really? | 20:41 |
| timelE61i | personally, i like google reader | 20:41 |
| whaq__ | can't use it offline though? | 20:41 |
| timelE61i | it doesn't subscribe, but it can render rss | 20:41 |
| whaq__ | ah okay | 20:41 |
| timelE61i | right | 20:41 |
| whaq__ | I'll check it out | 20:42 |
| timelE61i | but google reader at least for desktops can work offline | 20:42 |
| whaq__ | I've seen many recommendation about it.. | 20:42 |
| whaq__ | and minireader.com (or some such) | 20:42 |
| whaq__ | hmm | 20:42 |
| timelE61i | so i'd recommend reader... Portability and such | 20:42 |
| rik | so, how do we install perl moduiles on OS2007 R4? do we use perl -MCPAN -e shell? | 20:42 |
| whaq__ | Ok | 20:42 |
| timelE61i | consistent read state across devices... | 20:42 |
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| timelE61i | rik: sounds reasonable | 20:43 |
| whaq__ | Is this one of the first app that google is preparing for their offline-web-app framework thingamajig? | 20:43 |
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| whaq__ | Yeah, that is really appealing. | 20:43 |
| rik | hm | 20:43 |
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| timelE61i | whaq: i can't speak for order, but yeah reader does offline | 20:44 |
| rik | can't locate CPAN.pm in @INC. | 20:44 |
| timelE61i | calender, docs and mail will... | 20:44 |
| timelE61i | rik: oops | 20:44 |
| whaq__ | It's gonna do wonder for N800 | 20:44 |
| rik | indeed. | 20:44 |
| whaq__ | better than JVM even | 20:44 |
| rik | i'm asking perl people, i ncase there's an easy colution. | 20:44 |
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| timelE61i | iirc you can get cpan | 20:45 |
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| timelE61i | as a tarball | 20:46 |
| rik | yeah | 20:46 |
| rik | seems ugly though. | 20:46 |
| rik | i'm trying to get RackMonkey or some other data centre asset management application working on my N800. | 20:47 |
| rik | i'm not convinced anything is going to be pretty thoug h:) | 20:47 |
| rik | oh hell. the cpan tarball is 11.3 meg. | 20:47 |
| timelE61i | don't grab it via gprs :) | 20:49 |
| Luria_ | avian packets. | 20:49 |
| timelE61i | As long as they're high capacity low cost avian carriers :) | 20:50 |
| Luria_ | actually, i think they need to amend that rfc... well, the latency hasn't improved, but there is an out of spec method that increases the frame size... | 20:51 |
| Luria_ | taping microsd cards to a bird's leg | 20:51 |
| Luria_ | i think they need to revisit the issue | 20:52 |
| Luria_ | but whatever, i'm a new yorker. im just looking to get rid of line noise... that will shit on you if you aren't careful | 20:53 |
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| Luria_ | timel* you there? | 20:58 |
| Luria_ | timelE61i, thats the one your using. | 20:59 |
| timelE61i | yes | 20:59 |
| timelE61i | having dinner w/ our team | 21:00 |
| timelE61i | what's up? | 21:00 |
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| timelE61i | did you file the bug and note that the hardware keys work? | 21:01 |
| * timelE61i wonders if this is already filed | 21:01 | |
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| timelE61i | it sure sound familiar | 21:01 |
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| Luria_ | not yet, there was something i wanted to ask you | 21:04 |
| Luria_ | the case is more general than vkb tab | 21:04 |
| Luria_ | i.e. if you tap in a password field, and hit enter on the keyboard, for example, | 21:05 |
| Luria_ | and the next page loads and puts the focus in a search field, | 21:05 |
| timelE61i | oh wow | 21:05 |
| Luria_ | the search field will be treated as hidden | 21:05 |
| timelE61i | heh | 21:06 |
| Luria_ | iow, *any* means of switching focus that dont use the tap method have this problem | 21:06 |
| timelE61i | Tap or hardware keys | 21:06 |
| Luria_ | using a tap seems to be the only to get the input method to be checked | 21:07 |
| timelE61i | Can the reverse happen? Auto focus on password? | 21:07 |
| timelE61i | try the arrow keys | 21:07 |
| Luria_ | ok, one sec | 21:07 |
| timelE61i | in my testing they work | 21:07 |
| Luria_ | im sorry, you are right | 21:08 |
| Luria_ | i think dpad works | 21:08 |
| Luria_ | i dont know if this is a hildon input issue or a microb issue | 21:08 |
| timelE61i | can you retest opera? | 21:09 |
| Luria_ | there is an associated issue - browser focus doesnt move when you vkb tab to the password field, so often, it get stuck "under" the vkb | 21:10 |
| Luria_ | i suspect the two issues are related - but microb has scrolling issues of its own | 21:11 |
| timelE61i | yeah | 21:11 |
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| Luria_ | btw, how do i delete selected words from the autocomplete | 21:13 |
| Luria_ | this is kind of a security issue... it "learned" some of my passwords :-( | 21:14 |
| timelE61i | i've been meaning to read the source | 21:14 |
| timelE61i | i'd suggest teaching it: | 21:14 |
| orakle | hahah | 21:14 |
| Luria_ | i'm not happy about that | 21:14 |
| orakle | yeah it learned some of mine too | 21:14 |
| Luria_ | right, but in xterm, thats to be expected | 21:14 |
| timelE61i | supercalifragilisticexpealidocious | 21:14 |
| timelE61i | and then doing a grep | 21:15 |
| Luria_ | gotcha | 21:15 |
| timelE61i | if you remind me when i'm at work tomorrow, i'll check | 21:15 |
| Luria_ | np | 21:16 |
| * timelE61i is used to reverse engineering | 21:16 | |
| timelE61i | source access is a novel concept | 21:16 |
| Luria_ | oh look, it's opera, my old friend | 21:16 |
| Luria_ | one sec, testing | 21:16 |
| timelE61i | you could of course use strace on the im app | 21:17 |
| timelE61i | or lsof | 21:17 |
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| Luria_ | nope | 21:17 |
| Luria_ | opera is fine in every respect | 21:17 |
| Giuliastro | Hello, anynone knows where I can get some informations about mnotify? | 21:17 |
| Luria_ | focus also shifted when i hit vkb tab | 21:18 |
| Giuliastro | I am wondering how it sends my gmail password thru the network if it uses ssl or not.. | 21:18 |
| Luria_ | actually, timelE61i can i complain to you about the gmail notifier? | 21:19 |
| Luria_ | why does it go to http://gmail.com and not https://gmail.com | 21:19 |
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| Giuliastro | ok, Luria_, that was my second question. :) | 21:19 |
| Luria_ | i'd like to protect more than my password :-) | 21:19 |
| timelE61i | I don't think i know anything about it | 21:19 |
| timelE61i | url? | 21:20 |
| `0660 | i think you can conplain to anyone about it | 21:20 |
| Luria_ | no, its the official nokia gmail hildon status bar app | 21:20 |
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| `0660 | but you should consider filing a bug if you want something to happen | 21:20 |
| Luria_ | gmail behavior is to revert to whatever protocol you came to the login pase with | 21:21 |
| timelE61i | not all nokia apps are from the maemo team | 21:21 |
| timelE61i | if it's from tableteer, it's likely to not be ours | 21:21 |
| timelE61i | but i have bugzilla access for the db for one other group | 21:21 |
| timelE61i | send me an email w/ instructions to install and i'll figure it out | 21:22 |
| Luria_ | so http login -> https submit ->http mail index | 21:22 |
| timelE61i | Note: we've spent months trying to get tableteer.nokia.com to honor microb | 21:22 |
| Luria_ | if you go to http://gmail. com, https login page -> https submit ->https mail index | 21:23 |
| Luria_ | which is a big difference on a random 802.11 AP | 21:23 |
| Luria_ | i'll email you when i get a chance tonight | 21:23 |
| timelE61i | Yeah, i know the redirect | 21:23 |
| Giuliastro | I believe the handshake (login) with gmail is done thru https anyway | 21:24 |
| Luria_ | but, just as important, do you want me to generalize the bug, or file it with the vkb tab only and add other methods (vkb enter to load new page) | 21:24 |
| Giuliastro | which is the most important thing | 21:24 |
| timelE61i | i'm going to try again w/ the site tomorrow | 21:25 |
| Giuliastro | Luria_ | 21:25 |
| Luria_ | not grokking... | 21:25 |
| timelE61i | I'd say file first, generalize later | 21:26 |
| Luria_ | ok | 21:26 |
| timelE61i | site tomorrow is me re: a different bug | 21:26 |
| Luria_ | all right, im meeting a friend is a somewhat fruitless attempt to teach him programming. while he's reading, i'll post the bug as per your email. | 21:27 |
| Luria_ | ok, pizza time. | 21:27 |
| Luria_ | glad to see there are a bunch of ham people with ITs | 21:29 |
| Luria_ | hey... what happened to _monkey? | 21:30 |
| timelE61i | been gone at least half the day. I plan to go home and check | 21:32 |
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| trevarth1n | I need a good Task list for my n800. Something like Trac would be PERFECT. But I need it to be local to the n800 for when I don't have net access. Any ideas? | 21:51 |
| erstazi | trevarth1n: like something blue tooth to connect? | 21:53 |
| erstazi | ITT is down I think | 21:53 |
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| trevarth1n | erstazi: huh? bluetooth? | 21:55 |
| erstazi | I don't know | 21:56 |
| trevarth1n | lol | 21:56 |
| erstazi | just tired and blah, and I need to be on internettablettalk.com | 21:56 |
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| BenSw | Hi | 22:08 |
| BenSw | How would I go about installing python-dev... and then pyusb? | 22:08 |
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| BenSw | i am getting this error when i try to import pyusb | 22:16 |
| BenSw | ImportError: /usr/lib/libusb.so: undefined symbol: usb_resetep | 22:16 |
| BenSw | Can anyone help? | 22:17 |
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| MoRpHeUz | BenSw: maybe luck^ ... | 22:24 |
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| luck^ | BenSw, there instruction on how to install python2.5-dev at pymaemo.garage.maemo.org | 22:28 |
| luck^ | BenSw, are you trying to use this: http://pyusb.berlios.de/ | 22:31 |
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| BenSw | yeah | 22:31 |
| luck^ | I never tried, but I think you need to port to maemo first | 22:31 |
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| BenSw | is there a way to downgrade to python2.4.2?\ | 22:42 |
| Tu13es | where do I add/remove internet radio streams? i can't find it, i feel like an idiot' | 22:48 |
| Tu13es | hm, can add, but not delete | 22:49 |
| Tu13es | nm | 22:51 |
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| luck^ | BenSw, apt-get install package=version_number | 23:14 |
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| erstazi | hello everyone | 23:19 |
| pupnik | may your chains rest lightly upon you | 23:19 |
| erstazi | pupnik, good news, can I pm you? | 23:20 |
| pupnik | yes you can always pm me | 23:21 |
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| rik | hi. | 23:25 |
| rik | i'm having an issue installing rails on my n800. anyone got rails installed and can help me debug? | 23:25 |
| erstazi | rik, I would assist but I only have OS2006 (: | 23:26 |
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| BenSw | Why woudl i have problems with sd card detection? | 23:43 |
| BenSw | would* | 23:43 |
| BenSw | I* | 23:43 |
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| Blacksitox | wtf ? | 23:49 |
| Blacksitox | http://rafb.net/p/gNoMk020.html | 23:49 |
| Blacksitox | help me ! | 23:49 |
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| timelE61i | rafb.net/p/gNoMk020.html | 23:55 |
| timelE61i | canola/ahavi | 23:55 |
| timelE61i | not related to unzip | 23:56 |
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| Blacksitox | timelE61i, how solution ? | 23:58 |
| timelE61i | you'd need to read ahavi | 23:59 |
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