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kazuhi03:24
kazuDoes anybody know QtMultimediaKit?03:26
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poutsianybody have any bright ideas as to why a particular qt quick app would cause the harmattan music player to pause, and disable restarting playback until that other app has quit?10:48
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spenappoutsi, while you could probably have better feedback in #harmattan, I think this could be related to audio resources. Maybe this app is requesting the audio resources and does not release them until it quits, and due to that, the music app cannot play11:13
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poutsione would think that, but what constitutes "requesting audio resources"? the app does have GRP::video and GRP::pulse-access in it's aegis manifest, but apart from that there's just a lone Audio {} QML element... and commenting that out doesn't solve it11:38
poutsiI'll try in #harmattan too though, thanks11:38
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javierlbt: hi13:36
javierlbt: build.pub.meego.com tells me "Unknown user 'lamarque'"13:37
lbtmmm13:37
lbtew13:38
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lbtjavier: can you make sure you have the correct pw13:42
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lbtthis is not the meego.com core OBS pw, it's the meego.com wiki/www passwd13:42
javierok13:43
javierlbt: it works fine13:43
javierat least mine13:43
javieron the web ui, I don't see his username while typing it13:44
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lbtto debug I'd have to edit the config and restart the frontend ... so just making sure13:45
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lbtjavier: so is it definitely broken? I'm not seeing any errors in the log13:48
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javierlbt: I don't know if it's broken. His username isn't there.13:53
javierBuildService API error: user_not_found (404)13:53
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javierhe created his username using OpenID13:54
lbton meego.com?13:54
lbthas he logged in to c.obs?13:54
lbtand has he made a home project?13:55
lbtif he's never logged in then he won't be a user13:55
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lbtit creates accounts on first access13:55
javierI'll ask him13:58
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javierthat's probably the problem13:58
javierhe's offline atm13:59
javierthanks for your help, lbt13:59
lbtOK - yell if he can't login or something14:00
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dnearylbt, What's Jeremiah's IRC nick?14:07
lbtjeremiah :)14:08
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CosmoHill.o/14:10
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dnearylbt, OK, thanks14:17
dnearyLooks like he's not around14:17
Stskeeps /whois jeremiah14:18
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fatal-has anybody run into a problem where console.log() no longer works from qml?14:39
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javierlbt: I have asked him and he replied that he hadn't created his home project. problem solved14:49
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berndhsmorning15:36
CosmoHillhey berndhs15:36
berndhswhat did I miss ?15:36
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CosmoHillsame thing as in #tizen15:39
berndhsmight take a little while to catch up then15:40
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SitaupHi everyone,  Today at 5 pm this ( ---->http://blogs.kde.org/node/4491<----) will end and KDE will lose the opportunity to win 1000 euros. You can vote even though you're not from Germany. Spend some of your time, you can vote three times. If you like KDE support it. Have a nice day.15:42
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shreyaHi my N950 is stuck at the Nokia screen after update....18:53
shreyawhy?What to do?18:53
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berndhsshreya: first step is go over to #harmattan and ask for advice18:55
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npm <poutsi> --> see http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=28630   (and note that "resource policy" questions are just as relevant for #meego as they are for #harmattan )19:48
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npmalso, in general, since meego is dead, and harmattan is the only living descendant related to meego, how come there is still "gatekeeping" on this channel against harmattan questions?19:51
RST38hnpm: While there are people willing to make policies, there will be policies =)19:52
RST38hAnd there is usually an excess of these busybodies around19:52
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npmyeah, all the stupidities about people complaining about "smeegol" or "meegolem"  and whether harmattan is meego or not and other branding/business/bullshit issues -- seem rather silly now... compared to focusing on coding, correctness, completion.19:54
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berndhslook at it this way: the derivatives market is 10 times bigger than the real world economy19:58
berndhsthe real business isn't making things19:58
TSCHAKeeeand we wonder why we're all financially fucked19:58
TSCHAKeee:P19:58
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CosmoHillfyi I didn't get that job :(20:02
berndhsthat's too bad for them, they are doomed now20:03
CosmoHillI like your thinking :)20:03
CosmoHillfacebook is retarded20:03
CosmoHill"new things have happened since you last logged in, click here to see them"20:04
CosmoHillno, just show me the freaking things when they happen20:04
berndhsi have a pic of a dog as my facebook avatar, so I have lots of friends20:05
berndhsdon't really know what to do with facebook20:05
CosmoHillis it your dog?20:05
berndhsno20:05
CosmoHillfriends/20:05
berndhssister's dog20:05
CosmoHillI have a picture of me so people know it's me20:06
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berndhsmy sister breeds bearded collies, real nice looking dogs20:06
CosmoHillcool20:06
CosmoHillI'm not allowed a dog20:06
berndhsi am, but they are a lot of work20:07
CosmoHillwhich is a shame cos being unemployed leaves me lots of free time20:07
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berndhsespecially long haired dogs20:07
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apeletehello #meego22:05
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CosmoHillhi apelete22:36
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apeleteI am trying to set up a software development environment for nokia n9, usable from cli in debian squeeze22:40
apeleteI didn't get much help in meego-sdk since it's very quiet other there22:40
mgedmin#harmattan is a better channel for that topic22:40
the-bossmgedmin: Error: "harmattan" is not a valid command.22:40
apeleteso there is no #harmattan channel ?22:41
mgedminyes there is22:41
CosmoHillthere is22:41
mgedminthe local irc bot apparently uses # as its trigger22:42
CosmoHillbut # also sets off that bot for some reason22:42
CosmoHill#kittens22:42
the-bossCosmoHill: Error: "kittens" is not a valid command.22:42
apeletenice, that's funny :-)22:42
CosmoHillwould be funnier if it was a valid command22:42
mgedminanyway, what you want is called the Harmattan Platform SDK, also known as Scratchbox22:43
mgedminyou can find it at22:43
mgedminharmattan-dev.nokia.com22:43
mgedminbetter url: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/platform-sdk/22:43
mgedmin(middle-click paste issues, sorry)22:44
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apeleteso this one is different from the QtSDK ?22:45
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mgedminyes22:45
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apelete"Harmattan Platform SDK is mainly aimed at developers who have Linux expertise or are familiar with the Scratchbox cross-compilation environment. The primary IDE for developing Harmattan applications is the Qt SDK."22:47
apeletewell it seems that may be it22:47
apeleteI want the sdk but without the qtcreator thingy, I already have emacs22:48
mgedmin*nod*22:49
apeleteand I want to know what's going on when I build some sources (and it fails miserably)22:49
apelete:-)22:49
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apeleteokay, I'm downloading these bits right now22:52
apeletethank you a lot, I'm glad I came here to ask for help22:52
apeleteI went on harmattan developer website before, but didn't stumble upon the pdk, only found about the sdk22:53
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* CosmoHill needs to find stuff to do22:55
apeleteapplication development is only a way for me to get to know meego, in fact I'm more interested in the base os itself than the applications ontop of it22:55
CosmoHill:322:55
CosmoHillI should do a build of LFS 7 to keep up to date and it doesn't take too long22:57
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mgedminapelete, you realize that many people consider harmattan not to be "true" meego?23:02
mgedmine.g. it uses debian packages, while meego uses rpms23:02
mgedmin(this is one of the reasons why #harmattan is a more appropriate channel)23:02
CosmoHilltizen uses rpm right?23:03
apeleteyes, I do realize that harmattan is more maemo 6 than meego actually23:03
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apeleteI think calling it meego is a commercial stunt23:04
CosmoHillI read that as "comical"23:04
apeletehaha :-)23:04
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TSCHAKeeeit is MeeGo by virtue of the fact that the APIs on top are MeeGo23:09
TSCHAKeeebut whatever23:09
TSCHAKeeeI'm tired of dealing with pedantic hosebags23:09
TSCHAKeeeit does not matter23:09
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TSCHAKeeeIT DOES...NOT...MATTER....23:09
CosmoHillI thought the term was "hoebags"23:09
TSCHAKeeehow about douchebags?23:09
TSCHAKeee;)23:09
TSCHAKeeeI keep forgetting, i'm in a room of left brained programmers23:09
CosmoHillas long as you don't use it on me23:10
TSCHAKeeecreativity is at a minimum23:10
TSCHAKeee:P23:10
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TSCHAKeeegotta work23:10
CosmoHilloh good23:10
CosmoHilli mean23:10
CosmoHillyay I'm not a douchebag (that you know of)23:10
TSCHAKeeeyou aren't.23:10
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CosmoHillawesome :)23:10
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* mgedmin comes from a maemo background and is perhaps too sensitive to the perceived views of meego people23:12
CosmoHillI came from LFS hoping to learn about GUIs and more advanced systems23:12
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apeleteI came from Debian, I don't mind calling it meego and I am happy it's debian under the surface23:18
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CosmoHillI come from a place where people ask "what package manager does LFS use?" and we reply "you are the package manager"23:18
apeletegood one :-)23:19
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CosmoHillthen someone goes "cosmo uses rpm" and I curse then and spend the next half an hour answering questions23:19
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apeleteha ha :)23:20
apeletedoes LFS still exists ? no offense, it's an honest question23:20
CosmoHillyep23:20
CosmoHillone of the guys who interviewed me said they'd heard of it too which is a bonus23:20
apeleteI started with mandriva actually, this one was pretty 'late' in the game compared to LFS, but I eventually moved to debian, and been happy ever since23:22
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apeleteI just hope to learn to learn a few things on debian and embedded systems by fiddling with harmattan23:23
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CosmoHillapelete: if you're ever in LFS and want a hand I'll help23:29
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apeletethanks, that nice of you :)23:39
CosmoHill(well I do run the channel :p )23:40
apeletein the near future I might need a hand on this pdk and meego core issues23:40
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CosmoHillivanich: you scared me, for a moment I thought you were a lecturer23:41
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apeleteCosmoHill: what do you mean by 'I do run the channel' ?23:42
apeletelike having channel admin super powers ?23:43
CosmoHillyes23:43
CosmoHill(for LFS, not meego)23:43
apeleteholy crap :-)23:43
CosmoHillit's more unholy than holy23:43
apeletejust crap then ?23:44
CosmoHilljust a crap :p23:44
apeletehmmm, let's call it holy crap anyway :-)23:44
CosmoHillI have the great ability to run into the channel, steal the topic and run off again23:44
CosmoHill(like I do here)23:44
apeletethat's what the holy stands for ^^23:45
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berndhscrap should be holiness-neutral23:47
CosmoHillholy meh23:47
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apeleteall crap are not created neutral23:58

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