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CosmoHillI like playing computer games, it keeps me warm if nothing else01:25
interiorcrocodiln9 pr 1.1 refers to meego 1.2 right?01:26
CosmoHillI'm not so sure01:26
interiorcrocodili mean 1.101:27
interiorcrocodilmeego 1.101:27
interiorcrocodiltypo01:27
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mgedminit's "meego 1.2 harmattan"01:29
mgedminwhich is sort of a half-meego01:29
mgedmine.g. it uses deb packages instead of rpms01:29
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TSCHAKeeeit's maemo with the meego APIs at the app level.01:30
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interiorcrocodilhow can i get the source of the kernel?01:32
interiorcrocodilgoogling n9 pr 1.1 turned up nothing :(01:32
CosmoHillinteriorcrocodil: should be on repo.meego.com01:33
CosmoHilloh01:33
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CosmoHilltry #harmattan01:33
mgedminpeople in #harmattan ought to know01:33
TSCHAKeeeyes, they do.01:33
thiagoharmattan is not meego01:33
mgedminthey've been building custom kernels that boot (but have limited functionality, afaiu)01:33
thiagoharmattan 1.1 is just that01:33
thiagonot meego01:33
interiorcrocodilso meego is closed source?01:34
thiagono01:34
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thiagomeego is very open source01:34
thiagoeverything is open01:34
thiagosee repo.meego.com for images, binaries and sources01:34
interiorcrocodilok01:35
interiorcrocodilroot is nerfed in pr 1.101:35
thiagothat's not meego01:36
interiorcrocodilall the caps are unset in devel-su01:36
thiagoask in #harmattan01:36
interiorcrocodil:o01:36
interiorcrocodilok01:36
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ThiokaHi everyone,  Tomorrow this ( ---->http://blogs.kde.org/node/4491<----) will end and KDE will lose the opportunity to win 1000 euros. You can vote even though you're not from Germany. Spend some of your time, you can vote three times. If you like KDE support it. Have a nice day.02:41
CosmoHillspam02:45
ThiokaSupport a free software project is spam???02:46
ThiokaAre you kidding?02:46
CosmoHillsorry, someone I've not seen joins a channal and tells them to go vote on a like02:47
CosmoHilllink*02:47
ThiokaIf you like free software you should do it, but you can choice it's not an imposition02:48
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ThiokaHi everyone,  Tomorrow this ( ---->http://blogs.kde.org/node/4491<----) will end and KDE will lose the opportunity to win 1000 euros. You can vote even though you're not from Germany. Spend some of your time, you can vote three times. If you like KDE support it. Have a nice day.03:20
Thiokaand good night!03:20
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Alison_ChaikenI voted for KDE 3 times, so don't blame me.   But I voted against George W. Bush too, so perhaps I'm unlucky.04:27
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berndhsKDE needs a bit of a diet, it's kinda heavy04:35
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petterwis there a channel for n9 user discussion, i'm guessing that's off topic here?11:01
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Kaadlajkpetterw: #harmattan11:02
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decibytepetterw: #harmattan for n9 development and #n9 for more regular stuff11:02
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Zammyhello everyone11:43
Zammyi wanted to ask for some status on MeeGo ?11:43
ZammyIs there going to be some community development on the project?11:43
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dm8tbrZammy: it's called Mer, join #mer11:45
Zammyoh11:45
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edakiriIs there a gnome-shell UX? On a netbook, gnome-shell has given me better performance than mutter.14:49
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rburtonedakiri: gnome shell *is* mutter17:06
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edakirirburton, what is the difference then between the programs gnome-shell and the window manager mutter?  It is so packaged in Debian.17:08
edakiriThey provide a different UI.17:08
rburtonlook at the deps, gnome-shell depends on mutter17:08
CosmoHill.o/17:08
CosmoHillrburton: I think my front forks have gone :/17:08
rburtonCosmoHill: ouch17:08
CosmoHillcould just be me thinking about it, placbo forks if you will17:09
rburtonCosmoHill: JT cycles just north of ely are certified for rockshox/fox servicing17:09
rburtonalthough i suspect they just send them to mojo.co.uk17:10
edakiriIt depends on libmutter and mutter-common.  The package "mutter" is not necessary.17:10
rburtonedakiri: libmutter being the bulk of the window manager.17:11
edakiriso is the "mutter" UX in meego gnome-shell?17:11
rburtonedakiri: gnome-shell isn't in meego17:11
rburtonedakiri: meego netbook uses a custom mutter plugin, exactly like gnome-shell does17:12
rburtonmeego's mutter is old, but we're working on that17:12
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CosmoHillrburton: http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=2001&Brand=GT&Model=Aggressor+1.0&Type=bike17:15
CosmoHill(original bike)17:15
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rburtonclearly its time to upgrade the forks17:19
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CosmoHillmight just rebuilt my forks17:36
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CosmoHillmaybe, I have no idea how much forks are17:36
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CosmoHillha! they said "shit" on tv at 4 in the afternoon17:40
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berndhswrong time zone ?17:42
CosmoHillit's a 9pm show they're repeating on a different channel17:43
berndhsah, for night shift workers, so it's ok17:44
rburtonCosmoHill: 200-300 quid should get you a reasonable new rockshox, recon or something17:44
CosmoHill:o17:45
CosmoHillhttp://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/01RSJett_JudyTTOwnersManual.pdf17:47
CosmoHillrburton: "after every 20 hours of riding"17:48
CosmoHillnever been done17:48
rburtonyeah, servicing is rarely done :)17:48
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CosmoHillI didn't even know there was oil in it17:50
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CosmoHillhey DawnFoster18:03
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lbtjavier: hey ...20:06
javierhi lbt20:06
javiercan I pm you?20:07
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edakiriI'm interested in buying a meego device which has all of it's Linux modules integrated into Linus' branch.  Anyone know of such devices or of a list of them?  Tablets or smartphones?20:41
thiagohere's the list:20:41
thiago[empty]20:41
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dabukalamhow can I get debugging symbols on Qt in Meego?23:20
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mgedminthe SDK repo has packages with debug symbols for everything23:28
mgedminsorry, didn't notice the channel; was talking about Harmattan23:28
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dabukalammgedmin, Sorry, what?23:31
dabukalammgedmin, didn't really understand...23:31
mgedminnever mind23:31
dabukalammgedmin, are debug symbols disabled in meego?23:32
mgedminI honestly don't know23:32
mgedminwell, I assume the debug symbols are available23:32
mgedminjust because it would be incredibly stupid not to make them available23:32
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sergiusensdabukalam, enable the debugging repo and install them23:35
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