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| poutsi | can Harmattan postrm scripts do anything in the filesystem? tried to create files in /home/user as POC but got permission deined | 10:51 |
| poutsi | denied, even | 10:51 |
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| tomma | root cant write to /home/user | 11:16 |
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| CosmoHill | hey lbt | 11:53 |
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| lbt | hey CosmoHill | 12:00 |
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| poutsi | tomma, ok, thanks | 12:36 |
| poutsi | also can't su to user... thankfully I like resolving as WontFix | 12:36 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 12:37 |
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| Ronksu | aaaargh. Configured MfE account on N950, and now the device ask for security code.. don't have the slightest clue what it might be. *g* | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | 12345? | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | Ignore that. | 16:25 |
| SpeedEvil | Mischan | 16:26 |
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| Ronksu | it was more general bitching rather than request for assistance :) | 16:27 |
| iekku | Ronksu, you don't remember what you set? | 16:27 |
| Ronksu | iekku: don't recall ever setting it | 16:27 |
| Ronksu | must have at some point though | 16:27 |
| iekku | Ronksu, when you started to use the device | 16:28 |
| iekku | Ronksu, i had same problem... | 16:28 |
| Ronksu | hmm... thanks for the tip. That might help me remember. | 16:31 |
| Ronksu | now I got to run home --> | 16:31 |
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| woffle | Hi | 16:41 |
| woffle | Just got an N9 | 16:41 |
| leinir | Yay! :) | 16:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | how do you like it? | 16:42 |
| woffle | I'm wondering if there isn't a way to lock an application to landscape mode, as an end user | 16:42 |
| woffle | It's great :) | 16:42 |
| woffle | But the browser keeps changing orientation and is driving me nuts | 16:43 |
| TSCHAKeee | no. such things are defined by the application. | 16:43 |
| TSCHAKeee | and the browser doesn't have an aspect lock | 16:43 |
| leinir | stop turning the device ;) | 16:43 |
| annma | lol leinir | 16:43 |
| woffle | I'll have to stop reading in bed then "{ | 16:43 |
| TSCHAKeee | are you trying to use the phone in an earthquake? | 16:43 |
| TSCHAKeee | if so, you should probably be running AND NOT TAKING (#@$#@( PICTURES. | 16:44 |
| TSCHAKeee | :P :) | 16:44 |
| leinir | woffle: lay on the other side ;) | 16:44 |
| leinir | As you might've noticed (not everybody does) there's only 2 ways the device thinks is up :) | 16:44 |
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| woffle | Yeah | 16:45 |
| woffle | Anyhow, need to sleep, thanks for the input | 16:46 |
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| leinir | sleep well! :) | 16:48 |
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| * CosmoHill wonders why he even has a phone | 19:31 | |
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| berndhs | i was wondering the same thing, i never talk to anyone worthwhile on the phone | 19:37 |
| lbt | because it makes a good SIP device? | 19:38 |
| CosmoHill | how much do people spend on phones? for £200 you could get a good lens | 19:38 |
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| lbt | I once spent £90 on a cheapo android phone | 19:39 |
| CosmoHill | I asked dad and he got an upgrade so I got his old one | 19:39 |
| lbt | hint ... get a job | 19:39 |
| * CosmoHill is trying | 19:39 | |
| lbt | it's hard | 19:40 |
| CosmoHill | I got a phone call about a web dev job on my mobile | 19:40 |
| berndhs | its hard for CosmoHill to get a job because he is young and doesn't have a lot of experience | 19:41 |
| CosmoHill | but the people I talk to I see on msn and the only guy I really wanna talk to is so hard to get a hold of | 19:41 |
| berndhs | it is hard for me because i'm not young, and I do have a lot of experience | 19:41 |
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| CosmoHill | talking about his job, year I know LAMP, XML, PHP MySQL etc | 19:43 |
| CosmoHill | SEO, google tracking thingy, market something and social majig? nope | 19:44 |
| CosmoHill | *yeah | 19:44 |
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| CosmoHill | do I score points explaining things to the recruter? | 19:46 |
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| berndhs | I don't think so | 19:47 |
| berndhs | most of them just have a list of acronyms that they check off | 19:47 |
| * lbt had a guy call today and you could hear him reading the notes | 19:49 | |
| lbt | and that was a senior architect role at HP | 19:49 |
| lbt | with cool things like "Finance" and "Government" .... ewwww :D | 19:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | Oooh! HP is going into buildings? | 19:50 |
| lbt | SpeedEvil: you've seen houses made of straw bales? | 19:50 |
| SpeedEvil | lbt: yes. | 19:50 |
| lbt | think of old HP pads stacked up... | 19:51 |
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| * SpeedEvil is spending way too much time thinking of insulation and heat pumps and shizzle. | 19:51 | |
| lbt | *g* | 19:51 |
| berndhs | buidling made of empty ink cartredges | 19:51 |
| * lbt just changed his boiler last week | 19:51 | |
| CosmoHill | "why is there blood coming out of your walls? it's creepy" "oh that's not blood, that magenta" | 19:51 |
| lbt | SpeedEvil: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/sets/72157627879948777/ | 19:52 |
| CosmoHill | you could hear other people in the background | 19:52 |
| lbt | especially the "drill holes in the walls until you find the right pipe" moment | 19:52 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: nice bread thingy | 19:53 |
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| CosmoHill | (sorry I duno what it's called) | 19:53 |
| lbt | that's an electric drill CosmoHill :P | 19:53 |
| SpeedEvil | lbt: I've been considering silly things. For example, a heat pump run off night-rate electricity, and a huge thermal store (several tons) to underfloor heating. | 19:55 |
| CosmoHill | ah, I've always wondered what it was | 19:55 |
| lbt | SpeedEvil: new build? | 19:55 |
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| SpeedEvil | No.reterofit | 19:56 |
| lbt | because UFH is a bitch in an existing house - especially downstairs which is where it's most useful | 19:56 |
| lbt | most sensible thing ... zones and zone valves | 19:56 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm ripping up the floor anyway. | 19:56 |
| SpeedEvil | It's an uninsulated suspended floor | 19:56 |
| lbt | OK | 19:56 |
| lbt | and good access below? | 19:57 |
| lbt | The issue with suspended floors is poor thermal mass iirc | 19:57 |
| CosmoHill | we have a concrete floor down stairs, typically our pipes burst in two places so for a few weeks we had old doors covering up the holes | 19:57 |
| SpeedEvil | lbt: Not so much - it's fairly bad insulation value. | 19:57 |
| SpeedEvil | Thermal mass is - largely - a lie. | 19:57 |
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| sp3000 | speaking of which, I need a freq scope | 19:57 |
| SpeedEvil | It doesn't help unless it's on the inside of the insulation. | 19:57 |
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| * sp3000 is having standing wave issues | 19:57 | |
| lbt | yeah - you have to put in a layer of insulation below the UFH | 19:57 |
| lbt | a lot of it :) | 19:58 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes - my house has a lot of thermal mass, and stays warm for an hour after turning the heating off. | 19:58 |
| SpeedEvil | This is because the walls are 50cm thick. | 19:58 |
| SpeedEvil | It does not however do any good at all for the cost of heating. | 19:58 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: what was wrong with the old pumping? | 19:58 |
| lbt | Also UFH is quite slow | 19:58 |
| lbt | good if you're there a lot | 19:58 |
| SpeedEvil | The insulation is comparable to around a centimeter of proper insulation | 19:58 |
| lbt | not great if you commute or have odd hours | 19:59 |
| lbt | SpeedEvil: ouch | 19:59 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: boiler leaked a lot | 19:59 |
| CosmoHill | I meant you said that the pipes where connected up wrong or something | 19:59 |
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| lbt | CosmoHill: the upstairs CH return went into the DHW return | 20:00 |
| CosmoHill | CH, DHW? | 20:00 |
| lbt | (central heating / domestic hot water) | 20:00 |
| CosmoHill | ah thank wait what | 20:00 |
| CosmoHill | oh | 20:00 |
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| lbt | http://www.home-heating-systems-and-solutions.com/central-heating-design.html | 20:00 |
| lbt | we went from W to Y | 20:01 |
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| lbt | SpeedEvil: We looked at a lot of that a few years ago for selfbuild | 20:01 |
| lbt | I wanted UFH :) | 20:01 |
| SpeedEvil | lbt: It's a hell of a lot simpler in a new build. | 20:03 |
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| lbt | yeah, for sure | 20:03 |
| SpeedEvil | 'right - first put down a 200mm slab of insulation'. | 20:03 |
| SpeedEvil | ... | 20:03 |
| lbt | :) | 20:03 |
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| SpeedEvil | Gutting one half of the house, living in the other, then repeating. | 20:03 |
| lbt | been there.... | 20:03 |
| lbt | http://www.dgreaves.com/bins/House/Kitchen/20051231-145004-PS_Med.jpg.1.html | 20:04 |
| lbt | the "toilet in the kitchen" picture | 20:04 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 20:04 |
| SpeedEvil | Plumbed or not? | 20:04 |
| lbt | wasn't *quite* that bad :) | 20:05 |
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| CosmoHill | our heating is a bit weird | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | bathroom radiator is nice and hot, no idea why since the heating is off and only the water is meant to be on | 20:16 |
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| SpeedEvil | It's a bypass radiator. | 20:21 |
| SpeedEvil | It's meant to be a safety device to ensure the boiler has a minimal load when there is no CH demand, and the hot water loop is off. | 20:22 |
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| lbt | SpeedEvil: another thing to think about is to have a pumped HW loop | 20:24 |
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| SpeedEvil | lbt: yeah. At the moment I have a hacked up solar panel onto my hot water cylinder. | 20:27 |
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| SpeedEvil | I am at the moment searching for a source of 9mm magnetic stainless steel ball bearings to drop into the system, to fix an annoying thermosiphon issue. | 20:27 |
| SpeedEvil | The hot coil inside the cylinder is enough to generate a ~1mm pressure head. This is enough to start the water moving at ~6mm/s. This bootstraps a thermosiphon, which ends up with the pipes being toasty hot with the pump off. | 20:28 |
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| CosmoHill | and cold | 20:32 |
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| rzr | http://rzr.online.fr/q/oem# #LenovO ChinA sells OeM !MeeGo !GnU !LinuX #LapTop G470 but mine was w/ "CrimoSoft Win7 Shut up and PaY" edition | 22:03 |
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| gabriel9 | finally i get N9 | 22:31 |
| gabriel9 | :) | 22:31 |
| gabriel9 | is there any progress for dual boot on N9 | 22:31 |
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| vgrade | gabriel9 , http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/ | 22:39 |
| vgrade | I'd wait for the official moslo release though | 22:39 |
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| gabriel9 | this is now MeeGo? | 22:39 |
| gabriel9 | Nemo | 22:39 |
| gabriel9 | nice name | 22:39 |
| Tomasz | In shortcut - multiSIM is an idea to implement in MeeGo ability to use simultaneusly more then one sim card so more then one phone number in one device | 22:40 |
| gabriel9 | i'm happy with one sim | 22:41 |
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| Tomasz | you are happy with your new N9 ;) | 22:41 |
| gabriel9 | i will found out tommorow | 22:42 |
| gabriel9 | it is on the way | 22:42 |
| gabriel9 | 500€ | 22:42 |
| gabriel9 | 64GB | 22:42 |
| Tomasz | when you want to have separte number for business and separate for family/frinds life - this is solution | 22:42 |
| gabriel9 | yes i agree, for business it is life saver | 22:43 |
| Tomasz | or rather idea still | 22:43 |
| gabriel9 | but on my job we comunicate via email | 22:43 |
| Tomasz | yet | 22:43 |
| CosmoHill | dad has two phones cos of this | 22:43 |
| berndhs | i'm happy with zero SIMS as long as I have wifi and SIP :) | 22:43 |
| * CosmoHill is a tad cranky cos his friend rejected his call | 22:43 | |
| gabriel9 | yes long live internet :D | 22:43 |
| Tomasz | :) Exactly - many ppl have 2 phones - this is what it is for | 22:44 |
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| gabriel9 | did you see Netbeans on N9? | 22:45 |
| gabriel9 | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150355194180805&set=a.10150345643390805.343739.666250804&type=1&theater | 22:45 |
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| Tomasz | to have more numbers in one device - I have described basic behavior, ux improvements needed to work with more phone numbers in one device - i hope this can help | 22:45 |
| Tomasz | in implementing this | 22:45 |
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| Tomasz | multiSIM | 22:46 |
| Tomasz | doublesim or triple sim | 22:46 |
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| berndhs | of course it's better, although some service providers are jealous | 22:46 |
| gabriel9 | most of the people are using one sim card | 22:47 |
| Tomasz | I put t there http://www.ideasproject.com/ideas/14039 as seems to me this is not mature enough to put this to wiki | 22:47 |
| gabriel9 | so it is not so much demand for that | 22:47 |
| Tomasz | a time ago most ppl were using NOTmobile phones | 22:47 |
| jce | I thought he worked on the same team as cshelley and jtalbot | 22:48 |
| berndhs | multi-sim is also good for people who live near borders | 22:48 |
| Tomasz | phone companies would be happy to sel more sim cards hence more phone numbers hence have more profits | 22:48 |
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| SpeedEvil | Or not. | 22:49 |
| Tomasz | ppl near borders - good idea | 22:49 |
| SpeedEvil | They know people don't make >1 call at once. | 22:49 |
| CosmoHill | Tomasz: yeah, people who travel too | 22:49 |
| CosmoHill | only an hour and a half from england to france | 22:49 |
| berndhs | most canadians live near the border | 22:50 |
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| Tomasz | I ll add this there | 22:50 |
| berndhs | all Luxembourgians live near the border :) | 22:50 |
| SpeedEvil | What do you call citezens of the vatican? | 22:51 |
| SpeedEvil | (Apart from catholics) | 22:51 |
| CosmoHill | drug dealers would also be interested in dual sims | 22:51 |
| berndhs | right, drug dealers, arms dealers, double agents | 22:51 |
| gabriel9 | :D | 22:51 |
| lbt | drug dealers also like submarines, cars, electricity and steak | 22:51 |
| CosmoHill | anyone featured in The Wire | 22:51 |
| berndhs | multi-sim could be a status symbol | 22:52 |
| CosmoHill | people having affairs | 22:52 |
| berndhs | people who have spouses and sweethearts need my direct server-less chat :) | 22:53 |
| Tomasz | many many phones in Asia are double sim | 22:53 |
| gabriel9 | so "normal" people are not using dual sim | 22:53 |
| SpeedEvil | Fairly pointless page. | 22:53 |
| Tomasz | this is just convinient | 22:53 |
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| SpeedEvil | It's irrelevant unless the modem supports it, which it doesn't. | 22:53 |
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| CosmoHill | gabriel9: think of people who have two phones | 22:54 |
| SpeedEvil | It's possible to have multiple numbers on one SIM, with one radio, but this requires operator support. | 22:54 |
| berndhs | multiple SIMs bite the usual model of locking the customer in to one provider | 22:55 |
| CosmoHill | that's a good point | 22:56 |
| berndhs | so I would think the providers will find many many technical reasons why it's no good :) | 22:56 |
| CosmoHill | I think Three super glue the sim into your phonre | 22:56 |
| SpeedEvil | They actually did at one point. | 22:56 |
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| CosmoHill | all pre-pay phones are vendor locked but you can get them unlocked for a fee or for free after a period (1 year for vodafone) | 22:57 |
| CosmoHill | my dad's on O2 and his phones are branded but not locked | 22:58 |
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| CosmoHill | (contract) | 22:58 |
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| Tomasz_ | Ask dad if he would like to have 2 numbers in one unit | 22:58 |
| Tomasz_ | one phone | 22:59 |
| CosmoHill | (I've been on vodafone since 2004 and I've had 2 vodafones and 4 O2 phones) | 22:59 |
| SpeedEvil | It requires actual hardware in the phone. | 22:59 |
| SpeedEvil | You can't upgrade by software. | 22:59 |
| Tomasz_ | there are phones with 2 sim cards already | 22:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes. | 23:00 |
| SpeedEvil | And they actually have two radios inside. | 23:00 |
| SpeedEvil | Or one radio which is designed to talk to multiple towers at once. | 23:00 |
| Tomasz_ | no | 23:00 |
| CosmoHill | Tomasz_: I will when he gets home | 23:00 |
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| CosmoHill | iirc both are paid for by his employer | 23:01 |
| Tomasz_ | Not necessary they can listen to 2 networks and while talking concentrate on one only | 23:01 |
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| SpeedEvil | Tomasz_: Which requires certain frequency agility on behalf of the modem. | 23:02 |
| Tomasz_ | second has "busy" status | 23:02 |
| SpeedEvil | There are _very_ strict timescales on responses to towers. | 23:02 |
| SpeedEvil | At the very least, this will require custom firmware for the modem. | 23:02 |
| Tomasz_ | or behave like disapeared | 23:02 |
| SpeedEvil | Which can only be done by Nokia (or whoever) | 23:03 |
| Tomasz_ | yes | 23:03 |
| Tomasz_ | but they whoever will not do it if will not see possibility to have soft working with this - circle closed | 23:03 |
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| SpeedEvil | Sure - I'm not saying meego shouldn't do this. | 23:04 |
| SpeedEvil | Just that you're not getting it on the n9. | 23:04 |
| Tomasz_ | today certainly not - tommorow perhaps | 23:04 |
| Tomasz_ | ;) | 23:04 |
| SpeedEvil | Never. | 23:05 |
| Tomasz_ | ok, worth to try | 23:05 |
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| berndhs | I think it depends on what the service providers want. If they want it, Nokia has to do it | 23:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Nokia are not going to be spending several tens to hundreds of thousands developing new firmware for the modem. | 23:05 |
| Tomasz_ | I remeber not so long time age - "N9 will never appear" | 23:05 |
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| CosmoHill | next time it might not be something so soft | 23:06 |
| berndhs | that won't work Cosmo, use a hard surface | 23:06 |
| Tomasz_ | It also depense on what users wat to use - this is more comfotable then anything | 23:06 |
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| berndhs | service providers are more important than users :) | 23:07 |
| Tomasz_ | not for users | 23:07 |
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| Tomasz_ | that is why we have competition | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | remember that some users are idiots | 23:07 |
| Tomasz_ | from time to time ;) | 23:07 |
| berndhs | true, but for manufacturers the service providers are the direct customers | 23:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Tomasz_: It would not require only software development, as I understand it, you can't actually do this for existing phones. | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | like people who bought the iphone 1, no camera, no 3g | 23:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Tomasz_: As they'd require recertified radios. | 23:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | Even if the software/firmware could be hacked to do it. | 23:08 |
| Tomasz_ | There is no need to hack - what for? | 23:08 |
| Tomasz_ | This is about to make it legal | 23:08 |
| SpeedEvil | Tomasz_: The hardware was not designed to talk to >1 tower. If it's capable of it, it's not a designed mode - hence a hack. | 23:09 |
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| Tomasz_ | Standard providers network accept such solution - for provider doublesim phone is visible like 2 phones | 23:09 |
| ShadowJK | operators here use sim toolkit to give a personal and work number on same card. You set mode from a menu or add a *XX* number before dialing to set outgoing visible number | 23:09 |
| SpeedEvil | And it will require recertification of the radio, which does not propogate to existing phones, even if there are no hardware changes. | 23:09 |
| SpeedEvil | If the operator supports it, it's 'easy'. | 23:09 |
| SpeedEvil | As there is no need for any of this. | 23:10 |
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| SpeedEvil | You can have thousands of numbers, easily. | 23:10 |
| berndhs | there is no need for smart phones, that hasn't stopped anyone | 23:10 |
| * CosmoHill wants regular phones, with keys | 23:10 | |
| Tomasz_ | :) exactly | 23:10 |
| SpeedEvil | By need, I meant there is no requirement to alter the modem firmware at all. | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | that you can throw at people / walls then phone someone afterwards | 23:11 |
| SpeedEvil | If the operator supports it, there can be arbitrary number of 'lines' on one SIM. | 23:11 |
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| * ShadowJK has 5 SIM cards with the same number for calls, but 6 (!) different SMS numbers, which also work for incoming voice (per-card) | 23:11 | |
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| SpeedEvil | Bluetooth 'SIM Access protocol' can let you use multiple SIMs in one phone (not at the same time) | 23:12 |
| berndhs | don't phones already do hand-off between towers? CDMA did this back in the 90s | 23:12 |
| CosmoHill | ShadowJK: so you have 5 girls your pimping and one for family calls? | 23:12 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes, but they talk to one tower at once. | 23:12 |
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| SpeedEvil | (other than for limited purposes) | 23:12 |
| berndhs | well the traffic goes through 1 tower, the signalling I think has to go to multiples | 23:13 |
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| Tomasz_ | 1 sim card for work 2 for family frinds 3 for cheap internet | 23:13 |
| ShadowJK | CosmoHill; I only use one number | 23:13 |
| Tomasz_ | I use 2 and this works | 23:13 |
| Tomasz_ | I want to have it in MeeGo | 23:13 |
| SpeedEvil | berndhs: The phone is 'logged into' one tower. At assigned times, it flips over to other towers, and checks their 'beacon' signal strenght'. | 23:14 |
| ShadowJK | When someone calls me, my N900 rings, my E75 rings, and my E70 rings :P | 23:14 |
| ShadowJK | (if I have them on) | 23:14 |
| Tomasz_ | No. | 23:14 |
| berndhs | SpeedEvil: I remember the signalling, it wasn't just signal strength in cdma, there were 2 types of handoff procedures | 23:14 |
| Tomasz_ | Rings only 1 number at time | 23:14 |
| ShadowJK | it is one number | 23:14 |
| SpeedEvil | berndhs: Admittedly, I'm talking about GSM. As this was based around SIMs. | 23:15 |
| ShadowJK | one number goes to 5 sim cards | 23:15 |
| Tomasz_ | When ringing 1 number then 2 number turns to voice mail as radio is occupied with transmission from 1. | 23:15 |
| SpeedEvil | It's not simply signal strength, yes, it's more complex than that, it's per-operator set policy on signal margin, strength, and maybe range. | 23:15 |
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| berndhs | but as I said, the main sticking point is that the european and american service providers don't want it | 23:15 |
| ShadowJK | Tomasz_; why's that relevant? | 23:16 |
| berndhs | they want the user to have 1 provider and pay roaming charges when within 10 km of a border | 23:16 |
| SpeedEvil | Tomasz_: Something that abuses the protocol is unlikely to get type-approval of the modem. | 23:16 |
| Tomasz_ | comfort of use, possibility to manage time | 23:16 |
| ShadowJK | As I only use 1 number, nobody knows the numbers that only go to one card | 23:17 |
| Tomasz_ | there is no abuse at all | 23:17 |
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| SpeedEvil | abuses = does not implement normally. | 23:17 |
| Tomasz_ | as it works with nowadays towers - providers dont protest | 23:17 |
| Tomasz_ | this is implemented normally | 23:17 |
| Tomasz_ | both numbers are standby simultaneously | 23:18 |
| Tomasz_ | but when one is used other become "invisible" for tower | 23:18 |
| Tomasz_ | like it would go into tunnel, garage etc | 23:18 |
| SpeedEvil | This is quite different from dual SIM 'proper' phones. | 23:18 |
| SpeedEvil | They can actually make calls on both. | 23:19 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes, bluetooth sharing, or other similar ideas let you swap SIMs. | 23:19 |
| Tomasz_ | Yes they are able - with this what i am taking | 23:19 |
| Tomasz_ | this way | 23:19 |
| CosmoHill | SpeedEvil: 3 say calls? | 23:19 |
| CosmoHill | way* | 23:19 |
| SpeedEvil | CosmoHill: In principle, if the software will handle it - but the software is so hideously primitive, it probably won't. | 23:20 |
| jedix | to annoy me, the shuttlexpress isn't loading the powermate module and doesn't work :( | 23:20 |
| Tomasz_ | SpeedEvil - seems it is exactly oposit then you think | 23:21 |
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| Tomasz_ | Towers contacts phone periodically not constantly | 23:21 |
| SpeedEvil | I know - I have a reasonable idea of the protocol. | 23:22 |
| Tomasz_ | phone is hearing incoming call constantly | 23:22 |
| SpeedEvil | However, you can't determine the relative skew of the two towers. | 23:22 |
| SpeedEvil | This will mean that sometimes it doesn't work. | 23:22 |
| Tomasz_ | when get one call incoming then stop hearnig anything else for time of phone call - after finished contact again | 23:23 |
| jedix | is there a trick to get poewrmate to load for shuttlexpress? | 23:23 |
| Tomasz_ | that is why no "extra" radio is needed | 23:23 |
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| berndhs | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Um_interface :) | 23:28 |
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| jedix | ah ha! | 23:36 |
| jedix | /dev/input/by-id/usb-Contour_Design_ShuttleXpress-event-if00 doesn't exist. | 23:36 |
| jedix | what creates that?! | 23:36 |
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| jedix | udev rules? | 23:37 |
| Tomasz_ | Active Dual SIM technology Dual-SIM option allows to use two services without the need to carry two phones at the same time. For example, one handset can be used for business and private calls with separate phone numbers and bills or for travelling that demands the usage of an additional sim card operating in the country visited. Both sim cards are active. 3010, 3350, 3370, 6650, 6651, 6670, 6680, 6691, 7230, 7720, 8810, 8815, | 23:37 |
| Tomasz_ | source: http://www.myphone.pl/Technologie.aspx | 23:38 |
| Tomasz_ | there is english ver | 23:38 |
| Tomasz_ | thx in advance | 23:41 |
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