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Jaffalbt_hel: _hel: pong00:26
lbt_helhey00:26
lbt_helsorry you weren't around on Sunday00:27
Jaffalbt_hel: Was travelling to SF, so off the grid.00:29
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lbt_helJaffa: yeah ... I figured00:30
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lbt_helJaffa: I think we may have timed this just right with Mer00:32
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Jaffalbt_hel: Very possibly00:41
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Jaffalbt_away: ping01:11
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hartleyshc_having a little problem using meego-lem on meego 1.2.05:35
hartleyshc_getting package integrity failures, and lacking public key errors.05:36
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hartleyshc_using this page from the wiki: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Lem05:49
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Alison_ChaikenStskeeps' Mer proposal is inspiring to read, whether or not it carries the day.07:59
Alison_ChaikenHe even made LWN!07:59
iekku:)08:00
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dolphyHi all, I have a packaging question12:21
dolphyOn fedora when doing rpmbuild I get a debuginfo package and a stripped package12:22
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dolphywhen doing this on meego 1.0 I don't get the debuginfo12:22
dolphyand the normal package is not stripped12:22
dolphyany idea why and how to fix this please ? The spec file is identical12:22
Stskeepsthere was a problem with debuginfo in 1.012:23
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dolphyStskeeps: any workaround ?12:26
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dolphyStskeeps: if I introduce a make install-strip in the spec file that will remove the possibility to have debuginfo packages in the other distros12:26
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corecodeo hi12:49
corecodethe n9 seems to be available in switzerland now12:49
corecodebut only with a contract12:49
chouchounearf12:52
chouchouneif it was without contract, I would have come by car to pick one up ;)12:52
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augustlis this a good place to ask about N9 development? Or should I ask elsewhere?13:29
thiagoaugustl: #harmattan13:29
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augustlthiago: ah, thanks13:36
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CosmoHillcool, the album "No More Idols" has FLAC on it :)13:52
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tar-gzMeego have very small repo13:58
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Stskeepsmer has a even smaller one13:58
CosmoHillBSL is smaller still13:58
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sivangStskeeps: did you see qgill's email about hosting the MeeGo infrstructure? he said it will probably be impossible for the community to go on with a commercial sponsor.14:00
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sivangStskeeps: if we are to keep all the verticals and hardware adaptations...14:00
Stskeepssivang: i run 4 ports of Mer on a 69eur/month budget14:00
w00tand mine is still cheaper than yours *nyah*14:00
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sivangStskeeps: ha! :)14:01
sivangnice14:01
tar-gzcan i install Wm of meego in other istro?14:03
tar-gzdistros*14:03
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thiagotar-gz: yes, of course. It's all just Linux.14:05
thiagosivang: the infrastructure is paid for at least until the end of the year14:05
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sivangthiago: I see, but according to what Stskeeps we can perhaps host it ourselves.14:06
Stskeepslet's see how things turn out14:06
thiagosure14:06
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KaIRCStskeeps: FWIW, I think "mer" is a better name than "tizen" ;-)14:19
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tar-gzhmmm, megavideo doesn't work...14:21
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tar-gzCan i change empathy to pidgin?15:03
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CosmoHillffs15:13
CosmoHillOpenSUSE forgets my monitor arrangement every time I boot15:13
tar-gzOh no... Meego have python 2,6...15:14
CosmoHilloh great, it hasn't forgotten my settings, it just hasn't mounted /home15:15
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MooseTheBrownHi all, I'm trying to remove some rpms from livecd image using kickstart. I have, for example, hfdialer-branding-meego package, no other package depends on it, but still if I put -hfdialer-branding-meego in the @packages section in kickstart it appears in the image and gets installed during system installation. Any ideas what's causing it to get installed?15:37
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npminteresting quick-step from MeeGo to Tizen on the part of manufacturers that had formerly embraced meego. http://onlinereporter.com/2011/10/04/asus-acer-join-tizen-brigade-htc-may-follow/18:01
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npmWireless Watch’s Caroline Gabriel says "There is little chance that Tizen will have any success in robbing Android and iOS of their market share in mobile devices, she said. Like Meego, whose biggest market share is the in-car market, Tizen may find a role in the “Internet of things” as a growing range of devices require an embedded browser and connectivity, and an OS to support them."18:02
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npmhm, that's a pretty sad-sounding market compared to that of the Nokia/Qt-app-developer's "next billion" and developing for linux via "Meltemi" ( http://news.techworld.com/mobile-wireless/3307708/nokia-readies-linux-mobile-os-for-cheap-smartphones/ )18:04
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berndhsnot that I'm now a tizen evangelist, but what information is that judgement based on ?18:06
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npmbecause they charge $1495.00 a year for a subscription? :-)18:08
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berndhswho does ?18:08
npmWireless Watch in which Caroline Gabriel, some wireless industry analyst, said that18:09
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berndhsthe only thing I can conclude from all this is that Nokia does _not_ believe they can get to the next billion with WP-7 or WP-8 or WP-918:10
berndhsabout the chances of tizen, nobody knows18:11
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CosmoHillhey DawnFoster18:43
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