| newbie007 | Wizard I'm new too, I'm interested in hildon-desktop. There are some instructions here: https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user | 00:00 |
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| Wizard | I don't even know what's hildon desktop ;) | 00:01 |
| thiago | fremantle | 00:01 |
| thiago | the N900 home screen | 00:01 |
| Wizard | ah, ok | 00:03 |
| lbt | newbie007: here | 00:03 |
| lbt | just need your meego account | 00:03 |
| lbt | and confirm you're doing opensource stuff | 00:04 |
| newbie007 | lbt: I'm xduxooie, I'm only interested in open source :) | 00:06 |
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| lbt | :) | 00:06 |
| lbt | done - have fun | 00:07 |
| newbie007 | thank uoi | 00:07 |
| newbie007 | *you | 00:07 |
| Wizard | good night | 00:07 |
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| lbt | mmm ... almost as good as marmite | 00:17 |
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| CosmoHill | http://www.explosm.net/comics/2091/ | 01:47 |
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| zx2c4 | hi | 03:55 |
| zx2c4 | any update on n950 bootloader? | 03:55 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:33 |
| berndhs | it's still weekend, the OBS API just went down | 06:40 |
| iekku | back to bed --> | 06:40 |
| iekku | :P | 06:41 |
| berndhs | good night, i'm tired | 06:42 |
| berndhs | have a good monday | 06:43 |
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| dm8tbr | mrng | 08:00 |
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| zx2c4 | made a tool yall might benefit from | 08:06 |
| zx2c4 | vcard export is mostly broken in the contacts manager of the n950 | 08:06 |
| zx2c4 | so i made a lil app that does it at the commandilne | 08:06 |
| zx2c4 | andis more reliable | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | cool, post source/deb somewhere? | 08:06 |
| zx2c4 | here's the source: http://git.zx2c4.com/vcardexport/tree/ | 08:06 |
| zx2c4 | git clone http://git.zx2c4.com/vcardexport | 08:06 |
| zx2c4 | orrrrr http://git.zx2c4.com/vcardexport/snapshot/vcardexport-master.tar.bz2 | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | also, recall that what you have in n950 is a pre-release version, so it may in fact be fixed later :P | 08:07 |
| zx2c4 | lemme build a deb | 08:07 |
| zx2c4 | Stskeeps: yes yes i know buttttttt when the new firmware comes out, we're gonna have to reflash... | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | true | 08:07 |
| zx2c4 | and though there is the tracker backup feature, i'd rather start fresh with the db ontologies incase things changed | 08:07 |
| zx2c4 | so i figure vcard is a pretty neutural way to get it all out and in | 08:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's getting awfully close to release time | 08:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | where is the new firmware? :P :) | 08:09 |
| zx2c4 | http://zx2c4.com/projects/vcardexport/vcardexport_0.0.1_armel.deb <--- and here's a deb | 08:09 |
| zx2c4 | it's a commandline app | 08:09 |
| zx2c4 | /opt/vcardexport/bin/vcardexport > mycards.vcf | 08:10 |
| zx2c4 | and then later when you wanna import, | 08:10 |
| zx2c4 | you can just do vcardconverter mycards.vcf | 08:10 |
| dm8tbr | TSCHAKeee: it's like fawlty towers... | 08:10 |
| zx2c4 | i just write this up in a blog or something | 08:10 |
| zx2c4 | oneclickflasher is taking an awfully long time... | 08:11 |
| zx2c4 | should i be worried? | 08:11 |
| zx2c4 | the erasing stage is taking forever | 08:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | put the device down | 08:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | don't look at it | 08:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | don't blink at it | 08:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | don't even breathe in its general direction | 08:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | go make a cup of coffee | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | it is erasing everythin | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | g | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:12 |
| zx2c4 | i have my ear pressed to the screen | 08:12 |
| zx2c4 | and a stethiscope on its back | 08:12 |
| zx2c4 | im listening to it erase... | 08:12 |
| zx2c4 | sigh. okay. patience. | 08:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | uhhhhhh huh | 08:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | okay then | 08:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 08:12 |
| zx2c4 | :-P | 08:13 |
| zx2c4 | whoa! this is a pretty cool little status console display of writing | 08:15 |
| zx2c4 | very impressed | 08:15 |
| zx2c4 | somoene really spent their time polishing | 08:16 |
| TSCHAKeee | ??? | 08:17 |
| zx2c4 | when do you guys think we'll get an OSS bootloader? | 08:17 |
| zx2c4 | TSCHAKeee: it just dipslays each component and its progress flashing. its cool. | 08:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | ohh yeah | 08:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | zx2c4: when you have the new firmware, you can installl own kernel and rootfs | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | without big hiccups | 08:19 |
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| zx2c4 | Stskeeps: nice... but what about being able to flash a different bootloader on too | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | zx2c4: you generally don't want to do that anyway, but i've had uboot starting | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | ie, chainloading uboot | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | nolo -> uboot loading as a kernel would | 08:22 |
| zx2c4 | how'd you set that up? | 08:23 |
| zx2c4 | i thought nokia hasn't released the revelent source to do that? | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | generally we can do a similar trick for n900 | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | uboot on n900 is loaded by NOLO, the bootloader that normally loads the kernel | 08:24 |
| zx2c4 | oh, oh oh okay | 08:24 |
| zx2c4 | got it | 08:24 |
| zx2c4 | i thought u were sayign uboot->nolo | 08:24 |
| zx2c4 | otherway around. okay. | 08:24 |
| zx2c4 | thats clever | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | overwriting nolo would mean == bricked device | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:24 |
| zx2c4 | I was considering porting droid to the phone | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | heh, good luck | 08:24 |
| zx2c4 | why the odd skepticism? | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | it has a manual update device = you're working blind | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | er, display | 08:25 |
| zx2c4 | O_o | 08:25 |
| zx2c4 | what do you mean? | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | meaning each time you write something to the screen you need to send a omap manual update ioctl | 08:25 |
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| zx2c4 | oh. ouch. | 08:25 |
| zx2c4 | so basically while debugging i wont be able to see much | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | right | 08:25 |
| zx2c4 | man | 08:26 |
| zx2c4 | so each time the screen updates, | 08:26 |
| zx2c4 | there's userspace calls initiating that? | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | right, but that's because of the way the screen works | 08:26 |
| zx2c4 | i wonder if i could implement something kernel level at least for debugging | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | it's really power saving | 08:26 |
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| zx2c4 | calls the ioctl everytime the tty is written to or the like | 08:27 |
| zx2c4 | on another subject, Stskeeps do you know anything about mc-tool? | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | no | 08:28 |
| w00t | zx2c4: what about it? | 08:29 |
| zx2c4 | w00t: missioncontrol tool -- for telepathy, the IM/voice/video framework | 08:30 |
| zx2c4 | trying to add my gchat account | 08:30 |
| w00t | I know what it is, I'm wondering what you want to know :) | 08:30 |
| w00t | ok | 08:30 |
| w00t | hold on a sec | 08:30 |
| dm8tbr | someone find my quote, quick ;) | 08:31 |
| dm8tbr | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-08-24.log.html#t2011-08-24T08:26:25 | 08:31 |
| zx2c4 | w00t: oh, thanks. yes. adding gchat to the phone | 08:31 |
| w00t | what he said | 08:31 |
| dm8tbr | I'd love to see someone write an acctual account plugin for generic XMPP | 08:32 |
| dm8tbr | there is example code available | 08:32 |
| zx2c4 | aa very nice | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | it surprises me xmpp isn't in there, judging by how much it's used. | 08:32 |
| zx2c4 | xmpp = jabber | 08:33 |
| zx2c4 | name change. | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | like, in the organisation | 08:33 |
| zx2c4 | oh, yea | 08:33 |
| zx2c4 | i dont like ignore-ssl-errors=1 | 08:33 |
| zx2c4 | im not enabling that | 08:33 |
| zx2c4 | thats retarded | 08:33 |
| dm8tbr | zx2c4: then make sure the xmpp server's certificate is known and trusted | 08:33 |
| dm8tbr | the one I use has CAcert and at that time this quick hack was easier | 08:34 |
| zx2c4 | mitm risk... | 08:36 |
| dm8tbr | no shit sherlock | 08:37 |
| w00t | keep digging, watson | 08:37 |
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| dm8tbr | if someone adds this to a wiki page I'll be happy to add a note about security implications | 08:37 |
| dm8tbr | besides the whole X.509 scheme is now horribly b0rken | 08:38 |
| zx2c4 | true | 08:38 |
| zx2c4 | but yea that worked beautifully | 08:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | heheheh | 08:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | the whole OSI stack as a whole was completely unimpelemtable | 08:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | but, hindsight is 20-20 | 08:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | :P | 08:39 |
| dm8tbr | in cases where I care for security I'll limit to one certificate or at most to (my) CA. | 08:40 |
| dm8tbr | seems everybody and his sister can get access to a root-ca nowadays and issue *.* certs... | 08:40 |
| TSCHAKeee | yeah, the whole certificate authority thing really worked out, didn't it? :P | 08:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | all it ever really did, was create an artificial diamond market | 08:41 |
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| TSCHAKeee | (and yes, i say this with gobsmacked irony, as Verisign and Thawte are based in South Africa) | 08:41 |
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| zx2c4 | verisign is based in S.A.?!?!? | 08:48 |
| zx2c4 | "Verisign, Inc. (NASDAQ: VRSN) is an American company based in Dulles, Virginia that operates a diverse array of network infrastructure," | 08:49 |
| zx2c4 | yea, no. | 08:49 |
| zx2c4 | nice try | 08:49 |
| zx2c4 | haha | 08:49 |
| zx2c4 | Thawte is though | 08:49 |
| zx2c4 | hey Thawte is Mark Shuttleworth's company!?! the ubuntu guy? thats nuts | 08:49 |
| zx2c4 | that guys screws up everything gosh | 08:50 |
| zx2c4 | :-P | 08:50 |
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| Myrtti | not is | 08:57 |
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| TSCHAKeee | zx2c4: Shuttleworth left Thawte, but now you know where he got his zillions. | 09:06 |
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| iekku | core bug triage starting soon | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:57 |
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| dneary_ | Morning | 11:25 |
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| Stskeeps | morn dneary_ | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | how are things? | 11:29 |
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| dstrand | hello all | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 11:40 |
| dstrand | I am using MeeGo for netbook, and am really impressed with the experience | 11:40 |
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| dstrand | right now I'm trying out smeegol, and it has xchat | 11:41 |
| jiero | I hope I can have meego run on all devices around me... | 11:41 |
| dstrand | can we add some of the opensuse repositories to MeeGo? | 11:41 |
| dstrand | or rather, can I add them? | 11:41 |
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| cityLights | hi all | 11:41 |
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| dstrand | hello | 11:41 |
| cityLights | is there any program for buses in rome? | 11:41 |
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| dstrand | is it possible to get flickr status in meego 1.2? | 11:54 |
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| thiago | dstrand: I don't think there's any API specifically for flickr | 11:59 |
| thiago | so just make your HTTP requests manually | 11:59 |
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| dstrand | thanks thiago ;) | 12:00 |
| dstrand | and is it possible to add 11.4 Suse repo to meego, will that work? | 12:01 |
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| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps, how do we proceed with my submissions in case my builds run through fine ? | 12:41 |
| ScriptRipper | I make them submittable for Trunk then ? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | Trunk:Testing | 12:41 |
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| Stskeeps | ScriptRipper: best thing is to send them through devel:base i think | 12:41 |
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| ScriptRipper | I can do so, yes | 12:41 |
| ScriptRipper | and from there they are then submitted to Trunk:Testing ? | 12:42 |
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| Stskeeps | right | 12:42 |
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| ScriptRipper | and I just branch the current packages before ? | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:45 |
| ScriptRipper | the advantage of including qemu into the :oss release is clear ? | 12:45 |
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| ScriptRipper | I think Anas has provided a special fixed QEMU for Trunk.... | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but i wouldn't be surprised if inclusion is postponed into 1.4, as we're past invasive changes phase (new qemu, glibc, gcc, etc) p | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | not anas, i think, but another person, sec.. | 12:46 |
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| Stskeeps | <kevin.a.wang@intel.com> , <xin.zhong@intel.com> | 12:49 |
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| ScriptRipper | no, qemu is *not new*, it is already included | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | i know, but i think there's a difference between Tools:Building and Trunk | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | but im not sure | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | btw, meego-packaging@ is a good place to send mails about these things | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | makes sure the right audience gets it | 12:51 |
| ScriptRipper | and I guess Anas has installed it into MeeGo WOrkers | 12:51 |
| ScriptRipper | I sent e-mail to the list of people you gave | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:51 |
| ScriptRipper | is there a site admin for OBS ? | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know, i think adam and anas are the only ones | 12:52 |
| ScriptRipper | adam e-mail ? | 12:52 |
| ScriptRipper | I will e-mail the two QEMU packagers, anas, adam and you ? | 12:53 |
| ScriptRipper | and I use the QEMU *that is already inside* Trunk | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | generally it's better to mail the mailing lists as people move around in meego | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | so we can't be sure who's working on what, but they should be on mailing lists | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 12:53 |
| ScriptRipper | good, i do so | 12:53 |
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| ScriptRipper | how do I submit a change in prjconf ? | 12:54 |
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| Stskeeps | generally i send a mail to mailing list asking for it, or submitting a bug for it (usually easier) | 12:55 |
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| dneary_ | Hi Stskeeps | 13:09 |
| dneary_ | Stskeeps, Like everyone, still in shock,struggling on | 13:09 |
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| dstrand17 | got xchat on MeeGo... :) | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | dneary_: yeah.. i'm pushing on with work as lcuk made a good proposal for CE governance and i want to make it reality | 13:12 |
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| Stskeeps | so that keeps my mind occupied | 13:14 |
| alterego | :) | 13:16 |
| dstrand17 | really sorry to hear about lcuk, we all really appreciate the work put into this project, hopefully you can make it a reality | 13:16 |
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| Venemo_webchat | what's the zypper equivalent of 'yum whatprovides'? | 14:19 |
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| Bostik | rpm -q --whatprovides /path/to/file ? | 14:20 |
| thiago | Venemo_webchat: there's a zypper wp | 14:20 |
| Venemo_webchat | thx thiago | 14:21 |
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| Venemo_webchat | hmm | 14:21 |
| Venemo_webchat | no providers of g++ found | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | gcc-c++ | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 14:21 |
| Venemo_webchat | thx Stskeeps! :) | 14:22 |
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| Venemo_webchat | yeah, that's it | 14:22 |
| Venemo_webchat | will be back later :) | 14:22 |
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| Venemo_webchat | damm... I almost read luck as lcuk | 15:25 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Anyone have a WeTab, ExoPC or Lenovo S10-3t that they want to sell? | 15:32 |
| alterego | Alison_Chaiken: can't make it to an app up lab? | 15:32 |
| alterego | Alison_Chaiken: I'm sure if you spoke to the right person they could send you an exo | 15:33 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | alterego, thanks. Have an Ideapad lying around too? | 15:34 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I could ask the local Intel guy about ExoPC, I guess. | 15:35 |
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| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: there was a device program for the Exo | 15:35 |
| alterego | I only have an exo unfortunately and it's a loan device so can't realy sell it or give it away. | 15:35 |
| RST38h | You can actually REQUEST the damn ExoPC | 15:36 |
| * annma did not make it to AppUp and bought a WeTab herself | 15:36 | |
| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: https://meego.com/community/device-program/devices/exopc-tablet | 15:37 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Really, RST38h! I can easily demonstrate that I've been developing on ExoPC: extensive evidence up on wiki.meego.com, and multiple public presentations. Do you know whom to ask? | 15:37 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks vgrade2, I like you as much as vgrade almost. | 15:37 |
| RST38h | a moment | 15:37 |
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| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: np | 15:38 |
| Alison_Chaiken | vgrade2, the URL points to http://intel.com: not very informative as it turns out! | 15:38 |
| dneary_ | anyone seen sjgadsby recentlyN | 15:39 |
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| dneary_ | ? | 15:39 |
| dneary_ | Hi Alison_Chaiken | 15:39 |
| RST38h | Sorry, the program appears to have expired | 15:39 |
| RST38h | Was here: https://meego.com/community/device-program/list?tid=All | 15:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Good evening, dneary. I've been enjoying your blog. | 15:40 |
| dneary | which bit? :) | 15:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Back to my original point, if someone wants to see their Ideapad or WeTab or ExoPC, please ping me. | 15:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | dneary, I particularly liked your comments on the benefits of contributing to community. They apply widely, not just to SW. | 15:41 |
| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: yes looks like the program expired. I'd have a word with Dawn Foster | 15:41 |
| RST38h | Based on the last IDF presentations, the winning strategy is to start porting Android to ExoPC =) | 15:42 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks, vgrade2. | 15:42 |
| dneary | Alison_Chaiken, Thanks | 15:43 |
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| vgrade2 | RST38h: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnGuHnFmJLQ | 15:43 |
| RST38h | Yeah | 15:44 |
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| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: talked to the guy having issues on his Exo, he's booting to my image now | 15:45 |
| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: probalme was a duff sdcard! | 15:46 |
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| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: there is still an issue installing to internal flash using the installer so I asked him to let me know if he needed me to look at it | 15:47 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | I haven't had any problems installing to flash, but I have had some creativity with the bootloader this weekend . . . Nothing like a deadline to make details escape me. | 15:50 |
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| vgrade2 | Alison_Chaiken: are you using the MeeGo installer? | 16:03 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | vgrade2, I had an unfortunate firmware update. Can't blame the MeeGo installer, on which I am on intimate terms by now. | 16:04 |
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| lbt_hel | Aard: ping... you in Hel ? | 17:25 |
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| Aard | lbt_hel: no, not today | 17:26 |
| lbt_hel | ah well, nm | 17:27 |
| Aard | lbt_hel: you should ping me a few days in advance when you come ;) | 17:27 |
| * lbt_hel was thinking of Meritati | 17:27 | |
| lbt_hel | it's easy - every 2 weeks :) | 17:27 |
| Aard | oh, didn't know it was regular again | 17:27 |
| Aard | enjoy your steak. I guess you'll end up with a bonus card, too ;) | 17:28 |
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| lbt_hel | I'll need to ask then :) | 17:28 |
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| LoCusF | Meritati lol | 17:56 |
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| X-Fade | LoCusF: Hey, good steaks :) | 17:56 |
| X-Fade | Someone should take lbt_hel and show him the Zetor experience :) | 17:57 |
| lbt_hel | *g* | 17:57 |
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| Aard | X-Fade: last time someone wanted to show us something now I was not impressed ;) | 17:58 |
| X-Fade | Aard: Hehe, wel this is kind of funny. | 17:58 |
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| X-Fade | http://www.ravintolazetor.fi/index_en.html | 17:59 |
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| Aard | X-Fade: I hope they spend as much money on their cooking as they did for translations :p | 18:00 |
| lbt_hel | phaeron: ^^ should keep us busy for a while | 18:01 |
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| Aard | lbt_hel: we can give it a try in october... I guess we should be able to meet then | 18:01 |
| lbt_hel | WORKSFORME | 18:02 |
| lbt_hel | oh, wait, not bugzilla | 18:02 |
| Aard | you can create a bug for it | 18:03 |
| phaeron | a bit on the expensive side | 18:03 |
| lbt_hel | I owe you a meal anyhow | 18:03 |
| phaeron | finally scripted sfdisk | 18:04 |
| X-Fade | phaeron: Don't worry, lbt's money is getting worth more every day, ours is getting less :) | 18:05 |
| phaeron | :D | 18:06 |
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| lbt_hel | yeah - except I get to pay a double exchange | 18:06 |
| Aard | lbt_hel: oh, another reason why we need to meet -- I'm running low on whisky. can you update the inventory picture on your next trip? | 18:07 |
| lbt_hel | sure | 18:07 |
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| lbt_hel | flying out next sunday so I can snap some pics then | 18:07 |
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| lbt_hel | send me an email if you have any names I should look out for | 18:09 |
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| Aard | like last time, where you didn't find any of them? :p I guess it would be best to just take pictures of how their shelves look right now | 18:11 |
| lbt_hel | sure - €60 bottles? | 18:12 |
| Aard | up to about 100 | 18:13 |
| lbt_hel | OK | 18:13 |
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| Aard | you can check if they still have the 16 yo longmorn, that one's great | 18:13 |
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| lbt_hel | will do | 18:14 |
| lbt_hel | OK ... bbiab .... -> Meritati :) | 18:15 |
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| the_lord | Hi! I'm trying to install meego on the emmc following http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/EMMC but nc gets stuck sending "bz2" | 18:20 |
| the_lord | anyone here can help me? | 18:20 |
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| andre__ | the_lord, what does nc stand for? | 18:23 |
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| the_lord | andre__, netcat | 18:28 |
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| the_lord | anyone here can help me installing meego on the emmc? | 19:32 |
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| Wizard | hi | 20:20 |
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| CosmoHill | RAGE | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | / hello | 20:21 |
| Wizard | nah, I registered on meego forum and my mail server went offline | 20:23 |
| Wizard | registration maill will probably go to /dev/null ;) | 20:23 |
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| Wizard | mail* | 20:23 |
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| digitalsky | ping Sage, Stskeeps | 20:24 |
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| Stskeeps | evening | 20:24 |
| digitalsky | Hey Stskeeps | 20:25 |
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| digitalsky | remember the problem with MIC i was talking about last week? | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:25 |
| digitalsky | I think I found the issue | 20:25 |
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| siddvicious | Stskeeps: hiya :) | 20:26 |
| digitalsky | but I'm not sure about the original intention of the code | 20:26 |
| siddvicious | any new release for meego tablet ? | 20:27 |
| gabrbedd | digitalsky: If it's code inside mic2... I'm pretty sure the original intent was to drive developers totally and irreversibly insane. | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: +1 | 20:27 |
| gabrbedd | (not really, but it feels that way most of the time) | 20:28 |
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| Stskeeps | digitalsky: i think meego-distribution-tools@ mailing list might get the right people in talk | 20:29 |
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| Sage | digitalsky: pong | 20:30 |
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| Stskeeps | or sage | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:30 |
| Sage | digitalsky: I might be able to tell what the code was intended for but no promises can you show me the point? | 20:30 |
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| CosmoHill | if I go offline, it means I've cut the wrong cable | 20:31 |
| digitalsky | sorry, coworker was talking to me | 20:36 |
| digitalsky | hey Sage. yes please help me look at the code | 20:36 |
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| digitalsky | in mic/chroot/chroot.py | 20:36 |
| digitalsky | function get_bind_mounts() | 20:37 |
| digitalsky | a few lines down, why does it do a "srcdst = mount.split(":")"? | 20:38 |
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| digitalsky | that's exactly why local repos with ":" in the directory name doesn't work (it doesn't get bind mounted) | 20:38 |
| digitalsky | if the local repo happens to be in /var/tmp, it works only because /var/tmp is one of the default bind mounts | 20:39 |
| digitalsky | I've emailed Yi Yang before. so maybe I can also ask him | 20:40 |
| digitalsky | (or is he on this channel?) | 20:40 |
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| berndhs | let's hope CosmoHill's internet is not wireless | 20:46 |
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| Sage | digitalsky: a moment | 21:00 |
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| Sage | digitalsky: you mean line http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator/blobs/master/mic/chroot/chroot.py#line102 ? | 21:02 |
| digitalsky | yes | 21:02 |
| digitalsky | wait | 21:03 |
| digitalsky | no sorry, the font is too small i thought i looked at the right line | 21:03 |
| digitalsky | it's line 106 | 21:03 |
| digitalsky | I found that when this function was called, one of the dirs in "bindmounts" is the local repo with the colons in the dir name | 21:05 |
| digitalsky | so when it gets to line 106, that dir name gets split. so /home/user/osc/Trunk:Meego would become/home/user/osc/Trunk | 21:05 |
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| digitalsky | and since that latter dir doesn't exist, it doesn't get mounted, so later on MIC can't find the local repo in the new chroot | 21:06 |
| Sage | hmmp. I haven't read this part of mic :P | 21:07 |
| Sage | no suprice there though :) | 21:07 |
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| digitalsky | ok. i just don't understand why it's trying to split on the ":". I can't think of why it would need to do that | 21:07 |
| Sage | ah | 21:09 |
| max_posedon | hello, where I can found latest meego-netbook-pre-1.3 builds? No updates at repo.meego.com since mid-Aug | 21:09 |
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| Sage | digitalsky: the bindmount contains a list of pairs, e.g., "/mounpoint1:/mp1;/mountpoint2:;/mountpoint3:/mp3" | 21:10 |
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| Sage | digitalsky: so mount points and then in some cases if source and destination are different that can be given with second value. | 21:11 |
| digitalsky | oh they come in pairs? hmm. cuz when i print bindmounts, i don't see any pairs in my own case | 21:12 |
| Sage | well that might be some special case that isn't currently in use? | 21:12 |
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| digitalsky | i guess so. so you got that from reading the code? or from your own experience or from some documentation? | 21:13 |
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| Sage | read the code | 21:14 |
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| Sage | I'm not 100% sure about that but pretty sure. | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | can we perhaps change it to |'s instead? | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | they're more rare | 21:15 |
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| digitalsky | oh i see it now. i didn't read far enough | 21:15 |
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| digitalsky | that maybe one solution. but have to find out what defines the pairs. is it in the ks file or is there somewhere else in the code that generates those src/dst dir pairs | 21:16 |
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| Stskeeps | probably pykickstart | 21:17 |
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| digitalsky | hm i don't know objects in python yet so it will take me time to trace back where the bindmounts come from | 21:20 |
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| Sage | digitalsky: remember that chroot is used in both mic-chroot and mic-image-creator so some of the parts might be used only in other not in both. | 21:28 |
| digitalsky | good point. | 21:29 |
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| digitalsky | i guess maybe just bring this up to the developers and see what fix they come up with? cuz i'm only familiar one particular use case of mic | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | when it comes to mic2, it's best just to deliver the fix yourself | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:31 |
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| digitalsky | really? hmm | 21:31 |
| digitalsky | how do i deliver a fix? | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | submit a MR | 21:31 |
| digitalsky | I talked with Yi Yang before about the usage of mic. He's from intel (according to email address) so i'm not sure how interested they are on this now | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | they should still be, meego isn't dead from their side :P | 21:32 |
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| Wizard | Stskeeps, it is dead at all? | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | meego isn't dead, we're still people working on it | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | in fact, 1.3 is quite good | 21:33 |
| Wizard | seems many people are using it, asus (or acer) wants to preinstall it on some notebook | 21:33 |
| Wizard | Stskeeps, I like it | 21:33 |
| digitalsky | since there wasn't really any updates from intel during IDF, when can we expect to hear any news regard intel/meego? | 21:33 |
| Wizard | and I'm pretty conservative users | 21:33 |
| Wizard | ;P | 21:33 |
| Wizard | user* | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | digitalsky: appup elements, personally | 21:34 |
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| Wizard | so, only community works on meego now? | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | meego -is- a community | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | go look at meego-commits, people from many different companies contributing | 21:35 |
| digitalsky | wow linux.com is STILL down | 21:35 |
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| ScriptRipper | Stskeeps, I am still improving qemu-x86 for MeeGo | 21:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:36 |
| ScriptRipper | I dont need coreutils anymore | 21:36 |
| ScriptRipper | so it can be installed very first | 21:36 |
| ScriptRipper | as preinstall and does not need any other pkg | 21:37 |
| ScriptRipper | looks also like Anas QEMU pkg has 3 regressions towards my special QEMU | 21:38 |
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| ScriptRipper | emacs, libgphoto2 do not like to work with Anas QEMU pkg | 21:38 |
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| ScriptRipper | on other systems, QEMU 0.14 make more trouble than on MeeGo 1.2 | 21:39 |
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| ScriptRipper | so those 3 is relatively small number within the 1480 MeeGo :oss pkgs | 21:40 |
| ScriptRipper | the 3rd pkg is by the way glibc | 21:40 |
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| ScriptRipper | which was specifically fixed in MeeGo for QEMU | 21:40 |
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| Wizard | hi elproxy | 21:55 |
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| digitalsky | Sage: it doesn't look like setup_chrootenv is called by anything other than mic-image-creator | 22:25 |
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| elproxy | Wizard: hi | 22:27 |
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