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| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, evening, I don't have A9 an my Jogger is at home. Are you still getting the flashing? | 00:45 |
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| TSCHAKeee | yes | 00:45 |
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| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, has there been any EMGD updates posted on meego-commits? we could try raising a bug report and see where that goes | 00:47 |
| TSCHAKeee | didn't see any | 00:47 |
| TSCHAKeee | okay. | 00:47 |
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| priyanka | while booting meego 1.1 on x86 it gives a prompt boot on pressing tab i get theree optionss "linux0 liveinst0 local " can somebody suggest me wat option shud be selected | 09:08 |
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| priyanka | can somebody tell me wat does the option linux0 mean i get this when i boot my system with USB drive | 09:31 |
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| Stskeeps | 18m/s, will be a 'fun' flight today.. | 11:20 |
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| ar | Stskeeps: 60km/h? | 11:24 |
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| CosmoHill | have any of you guys heard of something called Laptops Park or Laptop Spark, the idiots keep spamming our website | 12:08 |
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| timeless_w7ip | andre__: is there a page that talks about how/when to resolve a bug as 'fixed'? | 14:03 |
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| slaine | I'm seeing lots of talk about the Tablet UX on the n900. I'm confused. I'm assuming the DE release will still be the Handset UX right ? Getting the Tablet UX running is just for shits and giggles ? | 14:04 |
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| w00t_ | slaine: hopefully not, depending on how suitable it can be made | 14:07 |
| slaine | w00t_: that's exactly why I'm confused | 14:07 |
| w00t_ | tablet ux is a lot nicer to use, looks a lot less like ass, and isn't based on obsolete technology (and actually maintained) etc | 14:07 |
| slaine | ok, that's what I was starting to wonder | 14:08 |
| w00t_ | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/TabletUX gives a picture if you want to play and help out some | 14:08 |
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| slaine | Where I'm going with this is, Intel are maintaing the TabletUX to a large degree and it's going to supersede the largely nokia driven handset ux, is that a fair assumption ? | 14:09 |
| w00t_ | Sage and I are working on it, though I haven't done much the past days as I've been too occupied with other stuff | 14:09 |
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| Robot101 | slaine: the reference handset UX was Intel too | 14:09 |
| w00t_ | nokia driven? the handset ux was written by intel | 14:09 |
| slaine | I've had a hell of a few months and not had any hobby time | 14:09 |
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| slaine | Ok, so that wasn't fair to say :) | 14:09 |
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| slaine | So why is the Handset UX now largely unmaintained and based on obsolete tech ? | 14:10 |
| w00t_ | why - I don't know, I presume that it wasn't considered a good approach, but look at the commit logs, and you'll get the idea | 14:10 |
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| w00t_ | and tablet uses QML, which is the UI technology of choice going forward | 14:11 |
| * slaine palys Sage's TabletUX video | 14:11 | |
| timeless_w7ip | url? | 14:12 |
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| Sage | timeless_w7ip: it is in the n900 talbet ux wiki page | 14:30 |
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| priyanka | I m booting my Dell core duo machine with meego 1.1 ivi .. it just shows a blank screen I am able to ping to my machine can somebiody give some suggestion | 15:12 |
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| CosmoHill | priyanka: what graphics card do you have? | 15:13 |
| CosmoHill | wait, Intel Core (1)? | 15:13 |
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| CosmoHill | priyanka: MeeGo requires SSSE3 support that isn't found in Intel Core processors | 15:14 |
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| Aard | CosmoHill: core duo have sse3 | 15:14 |
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| priyanka | ok ,,, but I have earliar tested meego on the same device.. | 15:14 |
| CosmoHill | three Ss | 15:14 |
| priyanka | I got these issues after updating my repository | 15:15 |
| CosmoHill | Intel Core has SSS3 but not SSSSE3 | 15:15 |
| Aard | priyanka: like I told maitrey earlier, you need graphics drivers from the netbook repos | 15:15 |
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| CosmoHill | right, I'm off | 15:15 |
| CosmoHill | good luck | 15:15 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 15:15 |
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| priyanka | Aard: k will try with netbook drivers | 15:16 |
| priyanka | I even dont see the regular meego splash scrren while booting my image have to manually select the boot options | 15:16 |
| Aard | priyanka: I assume you're using some IVI kernel? | 15:17 |
| priyanka | kernel-ivi | 15:17 |
| Aard | well, if you're booting a kernel without support for the graphics hardware in your notebook, how should it be able to display the fancy splash screen? | 15:18 |
| priyanka | hmm my kernel verio is kernel-ivi-2.6.35.3 | 15:18 |
| priyanka | so i should be trying http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/core/repos/ia32/packages/i586/kernel-netbook-2.6.35.3-10.3.i586.rpm | 15:19 |
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| Aard | yes (or customize the ivi kernel to include support for your hardware) | 15:20 |
| priyanka | ok thanks for giving me the right pointer | 15:20 |
| priyanka | i need to change only the kernel to kernel-notebook? or linux-firmware is also differnt for these two repos ? | 15:21 |
| Aard | you need X packages from the netbook repository | 15:21 |
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| priyanka | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/netbook/repos/ia32/packages/i586/ does not have any X packages | 15:22 |
| Aard | might be in core. try including the '@X for Netbooks' packagegroup | 15:23 |
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| priyanka | k | 15:23 |
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| priyanka | i have included xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.12.99~git0515256490-1.1.i586.rpm in my ks file | 15:24 |
| Aard | though some of the packagegroups changed since 1.1, might be that you need different packagegroups there | 15:24 |
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| priyanka | will i get the new groups from the build area? | 15:25 |
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| Aard | in the repository metadata is a file 'patterns.xml' which contains the group names, and the packages associated with a group | 15:27 |
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| Aard | (if you're working with obs you can get the same information with 'osc meta pattern ...') | 15:28 |
| priyanka | yes m workn with obs( my local) .. i suppose i need to integrate all package under "Graphical (X) user interface support for Netbooks" | 15:29 |
| Aard | you don't need the user interface, you just need some x-related drivers and probably some configuration files | 15:29 |
| priyanka | ok | 15:29 |
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| andre__ | timeless_w7ip, not that I know | 15:34 |
| andre__ | if at all, in the wiki under Quality I think | 15:34 |
| dineshm | pohly: ping | 15:36 |
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| amjad | i hope kno inc's textbook tablets use meego :) | 16:06 |
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| slaine | I hope they can get more than 3 hours battery life | 16:07 |
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| amjad | :) | 16:07 |
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| gabrbedd | ~lcuk | 16:44 |
| infobot | hmm... lcuk is a mighty good developer, best known for his work on liqbase and helping Nokia with the Identity project during the onedotzero event in London. | 16:44 |
| gabrbedd | infobot: seen lcuk? | 16:45 |
| infobot | lcuk <lcuk@Maemo/community/contributor/lcuk> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 7d 15h 49m 51s ago, saying: 'thiago_home, do kdelibs load faster then?'. | 16:45 |
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| berndhs | 1 week ? we should notify authorities ? | 16:50 |
| iekku | :D | 16:51 |
| iekku | i think so too | 16:51 |
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| gabrbedd | He's probably "on holiday" (as they say in the UK) | 17:03 |
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| gabrbedd | His twitter is also uncharacteristically quiet. | 17:04 |
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| berndhs | yes, another reason to worry | 17:06 |
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| slaine | gabrbedd: rpm still needs the license hack | 17:43 |
| slaine | ^The | 17:43 |
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| ares_ | # | 17:48 |
| gabrbedd | slaine: Thanks. | 17:49 |
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| slaine | it's on my site if you replace 1.1 with 1.2 in the url string, if it's of any benefit | 17:50 |
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| ares_ | meego 1.2 user experience scrum | 17:51 |
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| gabrbedd | slaine: ok, cool. thanks! | 17:53 |
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| MrBIOS-seamicro | good morning, anybody around? I'm trying to boot a meego build from trunk (precompiled) which I got from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk and am having issues with the root device. | 19:24 |
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| gabrbedd | MrBIOS: What issues? | 19:26 |
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| mikeleib | do you think it might be a BIOS issue? ;) | 19:26 |
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| MrBIOS | mikeleib, heh no :) | 20:00 |
| MrBIOS | mikeleib what am I supposed to do with the img? Is it an initrd? It's complaining about not having a root device | 20:00 |
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| gabrbedd | MrBIOS: (You probably already know this... but...) The .img file is for booting the OS from a USB stick. However, the .img file is also an .iso file that can be burned to a CD-ROM. (A dual-mode image) | 20:03 |
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| gabrbedd | MrBIOS: As for initrd -- MeeGo doesn't use one. | 20:03 |
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| gabrbedd | MrBIOS: So the question is... where is the breakdown happening? Immediately? After you see the grub-like boot screen and say "Boot MeeGo" or "Installation Only..." ?? | 20:04 |
| gabrbedd | MrBIOS: Also, in some cases the whole thing boots just fine (X11, UX, etc.), but you get a scary pop-up window warning about "not able to mount root device meego-netbook-blah-blah" -- and you can just ignore that one. | 20:06 |
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| dm8tbr | lbt: shhhhh, I'm getting part of the copper sales profits | 20:44 |
| berndhs | does it explain these network splits ? | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | it's weekend, get drunk instead | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:51 |
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| CosmoHill | I don't think that will help in this case | 20:52 |
| berndhs | get one of those bean-bag things, more relaxing | 20:52 |
| slonopotamus | you missed the point | 20:52 |
| slonopotamus | 1; get drunk 2. throw chairs | 20:52 |
| * lbt throws a shoelace across the room .... | 20:52 | |
| lbt | though it's somehow not very satisfying | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | one time I claming disconnected my printer and then swung it over my head into a box | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | something fell out but it still works so whatever | 20:53 |
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| gabrbedd | PC LOAD LETTER??? | 20:57 |
| CosmoHill | looks like an intel meeting just finished | 20:58 |
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| alterego | Hey DawnFoster | 21:00 |
| DawnFoster | hey alterego | 21:00 |
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| alterego | DawnFoster: someone told me today about a possible exo device program for meego contributers, any more news on this? | 21:03 |
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| DawnFoster | alterego: I'm hoping to sort that out next week. | 21:04 |
| DawnFoster | I *think* we have the devices, but we need to figure out how many I can give away & get the application form online for people to apply for them | 21:05 |
| alterego | Nice, it's my birthday on Monday (shameless bribe) :d | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | which reminds me, happy be-lated birthday, DawnFoster :) | 21:05 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: thanks! | 21:05 |
| alterego | Oh, happy birthday dawn :D | 21:05 |
| alterego | when was it? | 21:05 |
| DawnFoster | and happy birthday alterego | 21:05 |
| DawnFoster | It was Wednesday - the big 40 :) | 21:05 |
| DawnFoster | I got to celebrate at the Linux Collaboration Summit | 21:06 |
| alterego | Heh, I'd tell you how old I'm going to be but I don't want to make you feel bad ;) | 21:06 |
| w00t_ | that's an .. interesting way to celebrate a birthday | 21:06 |
| alterego | Nice :) | 21:06 |
| * w00t_ is turning 24 in april | 21:06 | |
| w00t_ | (ooh, that's this month now) | 21:06 |
| alterego | I'm thinking of going go-carting | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: i had honestly put you at 35 or something ;) | 21:06 |
| DawnFoster | w00t_: ha! fairly typical of me to celebrate my birthday with a bunch of geeks | 21:06 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: that's very nice of you! | 21:06 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: the official highest age women get up to is 29, fwiw | 21:07 |
| w00t_ | :P | 21:07 |
| DawnFoster | It helps that I *refuse* to act my age :) | 21:07 |
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| DawnFoster | nah - if you say you're 29 & look 35 people think you look terrible for your age | 21:07 |
| w00t_ | I guess I'll be in that boat | 21:08 |
| w00t_ | people always say they think I'm older than I am | 21:08 |
| w00t_ | :P | 21:08 |
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| alterego | Best say you're 60 then :D | 21:08 |
| DawnFoster | I'd rather admit my real age & just take it | 21:08 |
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| alterego | :) | 21:09 |
| alterego | 40 isn't as bad as it used to be 100 years ago :P | 21:09 |
| DawnFoster | exactly! | 21:09 |
| alterego | God I wish I'm going to age as well as my dad (60 now) | 21:09 |
| DawnFoster | I'm I'm healthy / happy - no complaints | 21:09 |
| alterego | :) | 21:09 |
| alterego | So, I've implemented waypoint projections into Columbus now. Best concentrate on the last major feature for v1 which is tracklog loading. | 21:10 |
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| CosmoHill | w00t_: I thought you were older | 21:10 |
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| CosmoHill | then again you're just 5 blue characters to me so it's kinda hard to judge | 21:10 |
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| alterego | I thought he was older too, closer to my age (28 on Monday) | 21:12 |
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| w00t_ | (see?) | 21:13 |
| CosmoHill | anyone wanna take a guess on my age? | 21:13 |
| berndhs | 22 | 21:13 |
| w00t_ | 26 | 21:13 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: 14? | 21:13 |
| alterego | 17 | 21:13 |
| w00t_ | 256 | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | (nah, uni, so at least 17-19..) | 21:13 |
| alterego | What do I win? | 21:13 |
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| alterego | Oh, 19 then | 21:14 |
| CosmoHill | I'm gonna large if the average is correct | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: free toaster! | 21:14 |
| CosmoHill | laugh* | 21:14 |
| * alterego chuckles | 21:14 | |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: I'm > 20 and thinking of going to uni (and kamilla is also > 20 and going to uni, though admittedly in her 4th year) | 21:14 |
| alterego | Is it a MeeGo toaster? | 21:14 |
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| alterego | Toasts MeeGo minions on the bread? | 21:14 |
| CosmoHill | there is a 82 year old on my course | 21:14 |
| alterego | Wow CosmoHill what are you studying? | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: i'd -love- a meego toaster | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:14 |
| GAN900 | 24 is the new 19! | 21:14 |
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| CosmoHill | GAN900: in that case I'm 17 | 21:15 |
| * CosmoHill is 22 and 9 days old :) | 21:15 | |
| GAN900 | w00t_, turning 24 in October. I frequently can't remember how old I am. <_< | 21:15 |
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| w00t_ | GAN900: :o | 21:16 |
| w00t_ | I have trouble with the years, too | 21:16 |
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| alterego | I always think GAN900 is like a 400 yo immortal edlar wizzard or something. | 21:16 |
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| CosmoHill | we're in a channel full of sub-30 year olds but we all think each other is older | 21:16 |
| alterego | I think there's some strange condition where you always presume you're the youngest ;) | 21:17 |
| CosmoHill | the other channel I'm in I keep track of the young ones so I pretty much know everyone under 25 | 21:17 |
| * w00t_ is happy to be referred to as a 'young one' still | 21:18 | |
| w00t_ | :) | 21:18 |
| CosmoHill | me too | 21:18 |
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| CosmoHill | my friend calls me a youngen even tho she's 5 months older than me | 21:18 |
| iekku | CosmoHill, how old am I? | 21:18 |
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| * CosmoHill looks at iekku with the "do I know you" face | 21:19 | |
| CosmoHill | 27? | 21:19 |
| CosmoHill | or 19 | 21:19 |
| iekku | :D | 21:19 |
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| iekku | 17 is more like my real age, according how i behave :P | 21:20 |
| ljp | I'm 12 | 21:20 |
| CosmoHill | iekku: once you hit 20 it becomes hard to notice | 21:20 |
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| * gabrbedd > 30 | 21:21 | |
| CosmoHill | gabrbedd: I'd of said you're 20 something | 21:21 |
| CosmoHill | sure that something may have been +14 but I digress | 21:21 |
| berndhs | I have been 29 for longer than I can remember | 21:22 |
| CosmoHill | berndhs: you remember my birthday don't you? | 21:22 |
| CosmoHill | on a side note I missed most of the following day's lectures | 21:22 |
| berndhs | vaguely, I was 29 before that :) | 21:22 |
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| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: ok. don't know if that's good or bad. :-) | 21:23 |
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| jedix | is there support for the linux auto bug reporting tool in meego? | 21:25 |
| CosmoHill | I have a lot of booze and my grandad disapproves of it purely on the grounds that it's cider and not beer | 21:26 |
| Myrtti | boo, reggie isn't on IRC | 21:26 |
| Stskeeps | at the moment, maybe | 21:26 |
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| jedix | abrt is in 1.0 and 1.1 but I don't see it in trunk | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | corewatcher is used now i think | 21:28 |
| jedix | ah, thanks | 21:28 |
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| jedix | yeah, that's in trunk. | 21:28 |
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| jedix | is there plugin support for corewatcher? it looks like it'll just send the core off to a configured url | 21:33 |
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| GeneralAntilles | alterego, only if by "elder wizard" you mean "full of shit". :P | 22:12 |
| alterego | :) | 22:12 |
| gabrbedd | alterego: I couldn't stop myself... so I proto'd a strobe tuner yesterday eve. :-) | 22:13 |
| alterego | gabrbedd: :) | 22:13 |
| alterego | Cool | 22:13 |
| alterego | I've been working on Columbus again, I couldn't sleep last night so I implemented a heart rate calculator though :D | 22:14 |
| alterego | In bed, ony my N900 | 22:14 |
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| gabrbedd | alterego: :-) | 22:16 |
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| gabrbedd | alterego: I used RST38h 's suggestion to find zero crossovers. | 22:17 |
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| alterego | gabrbedd: oh yeah? What was his suggestion? I must have missed that. | 22:24 |
| gabrbedd | alterego: Instead of doing FFT, look for where the signal crosses zero and use that to calculate freq. | 22:25 |
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| alterego | Yeah, I got that, I thought you meant how to do zero cross overs :P | 22:26 |
| alterego | Like he had some magical method for it :D | 22:26 |
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| gabrbedd | alterego: No... I brought my own majic. | 22:28 |
| alterego | :) | 22:28 |
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| CosmoHill | :) | 22:52 |
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