| lcuk | or did you just want a gold star? :P | 00:00 |
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| lcuk | w00t_, bug 14266 | 00:00 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14266 nor, Undecided, ---, viroteck, ASSI, Font character glyphs go missing inside application after viewing dashboard | 00:00 |
| lcuk | it really is an odd one, noticed it today | 00:01 |
| lcuk | it is very similar to what was experienced on the beagleboard | 00:01 |
| lcuk | should we drop a link onto one of the other channels, see if it experienced on other systems? | 00:01 |
| w00t_ | feel free - i'm gonna go order a microsd so i can try actually look at it :) | 00:02 |
| lcuk | ok I will try to remember to ask tomorrow | 00:03 |
| * lcuk facepalms | 00:03 | |
| lcuk | and writes it onto todo list :) | 00:03 |
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| mnementh | w00t_: i can apply your patch to meego-handset-people but it's obsolete with the QML version of the application that we will again hopefully opensource soon | 00:57 |
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| mnementh | this begs a good question if the MTF version of the aps continue to bit rot if we should assign maintainers to integrate patches or *cough* outsource that maintenence as i have a feeling someone out there might still be using it. | 00:59 |
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| lbt | night all | 02:36 |
| lcuk | nn lbt | 02:36 |
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| mikhas | lcuk, still there? | 03:22 |
| mikhas | I am running LMT apps in my desktop's native resolution | 03:22 |
| Jade | hi | 03:23 |
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| lcuk | :) mikhas, that sounds promising! | 03:30 |
| lcuk | I shall talk to you tomorrow though, am sleepy | 03:30 |
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| mikhas | I am sleepy too | 03:31 |
| mikhas | but if I tell you how trivial it was ... man | 03:31 |
| timeless_w7ip | sleep? good idea | 03:31 |
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| lcuk | mikhas, knowing which line to change is what makes you good at your job :) | 03:34 |
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| alancio | hello | 03:42 |
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| Venemo | how does MeeGo run on an Nvidia ION chip? | 03:44 |
| alancio | anybody here know anything about the Nokia N950? | 03:45 |
| Venemo | alancio, it is not announced yet. it's just a rumour. | 03:45 |
| alancio | I'm thinking about getting a N900, but maybe I should wait for the N950 or N9 | 03:46 |
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| alancio | any clues about when is this cellphone going to be released? | 03:50 |
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| Venemo | alancio, official announcement says that a meego device will be released "in 2011". | 03:55 |
| Venemo | that's all that we know for sure | 03:55 |
| berndhs | and also, the world will end in 2012 | 03:55 |
| alancio | geez, in that case I hope nokia doesn't delay it until 2012 | 03:56 |
| alancio | the other thing is I heard battery life in the N900 sucks | 03:57 |
| alancio | that you have to charge it everyday | 03:57 |
| timeless_w7ip | alancio: depends what you do w/ one | 03:57 |
| timeless_w7ip | if you run dozens of presence services | 03:57 |
| timeless_w7ip | or do regular video calls | 03:57 |
| timeless_w7ip | or run an xchat w/ a bunch of servers | 03:57 |
| timeless_w7ip | then yeah, your battery life will suck | 03:57 |
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| timeless_w7ip | if you don't try to kill the battery, it can last for a couple of days | 03:58 |
| timeless_w7ip | but it's like saying that your sports car runs out of gass because you drive it from LA to SF and back a couple of times daily | 03:58 |
| timeless_w7ip | (@120mph or better) | 03:58 |
| timeless_w7ip | the n8 otoh is a totally useless PoC, but it gets really good battery life | 03:59 |
| timeless_w7ip | it works great as a nightstand clock | 03:59 |
| alancio | lol | 03:59 |
| timeless_w7ip | totally useless for anything else, but hey! | 03:59 |
| alancio | why is it a poc? | 04:00 |
| alancio | because of hardware or software? | 04:00 |
| timeless_w7ip | software | 04:00 |
| timeless_w7ip | the hardware just makes it look ugly :) | 04:00 |
| alancio | haha | 04:00 |
| alancio | well I'm currently using a E71 (symbian s60) | 04:00 |
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| alancio | I love the voip integration | 04:00 |
| timeless_w7ip | i had an e61i | 04:00 |
| timeless_w7ip | and the voip integration in the n8 is awful | 04:01 |
| timeless_w7ip | i tried it once and gave up in disgust | 04:01 |
| timeless_w7ip | the n900's is sooooo much better | 04:01 |
| alancio | really? wow I should really get it then | 04:01 |
| * timeless_w7ip shrugs | 04:01 | |
| alancio | voip is the only reason why I'm staying with nokia | 04:01 |
| timeless_w7ip | don't take my word for it, i'm biased | 04:01 |
| alancio | well, in the E71 I can't do conference or transfers | 04:02 |
| alancio | but the rest is fine | 04:02 |
| timeless_w7ip | but really, w/ the n900 i enter a number: +1 800 555 TELL | 04:02 |
| timeless_w7ip | and then i choose how i want to call (Skype, SIP, Cellular) | 04:02 |
| timeless_w7ip | and after i hang up, i can easily redial that number via a different carrier (SIP, Skype, Cellular) | 04:02 |
| timeless_w7ip | w/ the n8, i can't do that | 04:02 |
| alancio | how about integration with the addressbook? or automatically registering to the pbx when using certain wifi network? | 04:02 |
| timeless_w7ip | the former is mostly great | 04:03 |
| alancio | if you have the n8, try dialing the number and an @ after it | 04:03 |
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| alancio | thats what I do in my E71 | 04:03 |
| timeless_w7ip | active call restrictions | 04:03 |
| timeless_w7ip | the number you dialed cannot be reached from this phone | 04:03 |
| timeless_w7ip | what's * supposed to do?? | 04:03 |
| alancio | in my E71 it makes a voip call | 04:04 |
| alancio | and if you are not registered, it tries to register | 04:04 |
| timeless_w7ip | doesn't work here | 04:04 |
| alancio | why do you have an N8 and an N900? | 04:04 |
| timeless_w7ip | now i just got "no answer" | 04:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | i work for nokia, we get a free corporate phone every 2 years | 04:05 |
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| timeless_w7ip | but i forgot to order an n900 when i was entitled and it was avail | 04:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | i wanted to order something, preferably expensive | 04:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | of the choices, the n8 matched the requirements | 04:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | i was told it had a good camera (it does) | 04:06 |
| timeless_w7ip | and it turns out that its gps ttf is excellent | 04:06 |
| alancio | yeah, I also liked the n8, but it doesn't have a keyboard | 04:06 |
| timeless_w7ip | yeah, but the e7 keyboard is awful at the edges | 04:06 |
| timeless_w7ip | so i wasn't going to get it.. | 04:06 |
| timeless_w7ip | and i already have an n900, which is a better phone / keyboard | 04:07 |
| alancio | so what is your favorite cellphone? | 04:07 |
| timeless_w7ip | "cellphone"? | 04:07 |
| alancio | considering software, hardware, battery life | 04:07 |
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| alancio | well, cellphone/internet table | 04:07 |
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| alancio | *tablet | 04:07 |
| timeless_w7ip | keep in mind that i work for nokia and have been for 5 years in Maemo | 04:07 |
| timeless_w7ip | i haven't really had much time to play w/ competitive devices | 04:08 |
| timeless_w7ip | for my needs, the n900 is great | 04:08 |
| timeless_w7ip | but i'm also not concerned w/ battery life | 04:08 |
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| timeless_w7ip | i go to work + recharge. before going to dinner i recharge. when i get home or when i wake up, i recharge | 04:08 |
| timeless_w7ip | normal people go to work, sit at a desk, can plug in their phone | 04:08 |
| timeless_w7ip | when they go to a meeting/lunch they take their phone, when they get back, they can recharge | 04:09 |
| alancio | yeah, me too, except sometimes I go clubbing and return the next day | 04:09 |
| timeless_w7ip | your average person doesn't spend 8 hours running around w/o a power outlet | 04:09 |
| timeless_w7ip | certainly not here in Finland | 04:09 |
| alancio | haha ok | 04:09 |
| timeless_w7ip | and i think the same applies to the rest of Europe | 04:09 |
| timeless_w7ip | I can't speak for North America | 04:09 |
| timeless_w7ip | note that there are exceptions... | 04:10 |
| timeless_w7ip | but if you're driving, i'm pretty sure you can get a car charger | 04:10 |
| alancio | I drive my bicycle to work | 04:10 |
| timeless_w7ip | and if you have a modern car it probably has usb charging | 04:10 |
| alancio | no license | 04:10 |
| timeless_w7ip | but i wouldn't know, i don't have a license :) | 04:10 |
| timeless_w7ip | i do know that you can get a generator to stick on the back of your bike | 04:10 |
| alancio | haha that I wouldn't do, its 1 km anyway | 04:11 |
| alancio | or 1.4 | 04:11 |
| timeless_w7ip | and based on the output it can generate for a nice bright front light, i'd imagine it'd be able to charge a phone too | 04:11 |
| alancio | well it would be a cool toy | 04:11 |
| timeless_w7ip | but again, this only matters if you spend hours in motion | 04:11 |
| alancio | what do you do in nokia? | 04:11 |
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| timeless_w7ip | http://pilom.com/BicycleElectronics/Dynamo.htm | 04:12 |
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| timeless_w7ip | a bike dynamo does 500mA @ 6V | 04:13 |
| timeless_w7ip | which should do nicely for charging a phone. usb charging from a pc is 500mA | 04:13 |
| timeless_w7ip | (not sure about voltage) | 04:13 |
| alancio | from the PC its probably 5v (if its usb) | 04:13 |
| timeless_w7ip | right, so that should easily cover your phone :) | 04:14 |
| alancio | what kind of job do you have in nokia? | 04:15 |
| timeless_w7ip | i worked on the browser for maemo | 04:15 |
| timeless_w7ip | nowadays i mostly work on mxr (e.g. mxr.meego.com) | 04:15 |
| alancio | oh ok | 04:16 |
| timeless_w7ip | anyway, for phones... i admire features of certain platforms | 04:16 |
| alancio | man I would love to work for nokia | 04:16 |
| * timeless_w7ip shrugs | 04:16 | |
| alancio | well, thats before the microsoft deal | 04:16 |
| * timeless_w7ip shrugs | 04:16 | |
| alancio | so if you are working on meego, that means nokia is still investing in meego? | 04:17 |
| timeless_w7ip | sadly you shouldn't draw that conclusion from me | 04:17 |
| timeless_w7ip | i do things because i think they're important | 04:17 |
| alancio | mmm ok, so what will you do if they tell you to stop working on meego related stuff? | 04:18 |
| timeless_w7ip | that isn't to say that nokia is or isn't investing (it probably is), but i'm not the reason to measure | 04:18 |
| timeless_w7ip | i'm working on mxr for nokia because nokia needs mxr w/ or w/o meego | 04:18 |
| timeless_w7ip | i just happen to also be working on mxr.meego.com outside those hours | 04:19 |
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| timeless_w7ip | óne's a product, one's an instance :) | 04:19 |
| alancio | ah ok | 04:19 |
| * timeless_w7ip boggles | 04:19 | |
| timeless_w7ip | is that an accented o that i wrote? if so, how did i write it? :( | 04:20 |
| alancio | haha | 04:20 |
| alancio | ó | 04:20 |
| * timeless_w7ip tries very hard not to use intl supporting keyboards | 04:20 | |
| alancio | I thought you used all those characters in finnish | 04:20 |
| timeless_w7ip | not everyone who lives here is a native | 04:20 |
| timeless_w7ip | nokia imports people from all over the world | 04:21 |
| alancio | so where are you originally from? | 04:21 |
| timeless_w7ip | we had a guy working on X11 from .au | 04:21 |
| timeless_w7ip | .us | 04:21 |
| alancio | ok | 04:22 |
| alancio | if I tell you my tld you won't know the country | 04:22 |
| alancio | I also moved to work in a different country | 04:22 |
| alancio | .ve -> .jp | 04:22 |
| timeless_w7ip | vietnam/japan | 04:22 |
| timeless_w7ip | but you're in pennsylvania | 04:23 |
| alancio | venezuela -> japan | 04:23 |
| timeless_w7ip | err, oops | 04:23 |
| timeless_w7ip | vi | 04:23 |
| alancio | yeah, after the earthquake and radiation problems I took a trip to philadelphia | 04:23 |
| timeless_w7ip | it's 4am, please forgive me for botching .v? | 04:23 |
| alancio | but I have to go back | 04:23 |
| alancio | what are you doing awake at 4am? | 04:24 |
| timeless_w7ip | merging code | 04:24 |
| alancio | so whats the mood in nokia after the microsoft deal? | 04:25 |
| alancio | I would guess people are pissed | 04:25 |
| alancio | I don't understand the strategy | 04:25 |
| alancio | first they change maemo, great! | 04:25 |
| alancio | a few months later, ditch it all and start with meego, whatever | 04:26 |
| alancio | and now M$??? | 04:26 |
| timeless_w7ip | this is really -bar material | 04:26 |
| timeless_w7ip | but .. | 04:26 |
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| Stskeeps | REMINDER: MeeGo N900 DE common software (hardware adaptation also included) meeting in #meego-meeting in 5 minutes | 09:58 |
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| aruravi | lbt: ping | 11:33 |
| lbt | pong | 11:33 |
| aruravi | need the community OBS, my meego.com account is arunravi | 11:34 |
| aruravi | and am working for DE | 11:34 |
| lbt | done | 11:34 |
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| aruravi | thanks | 11:35 |
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| arfoll | Does anyone know of any meego python packages using yaml? | 11:54 |
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| Stskeeps | ask the meego-python@ mailing list? | 11:55 |
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| arfoll | Stskeeps, didn't know there was one! i'll have a search through the archives | 11:55 |
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| naquad | hi | 13:13 |
| naquad | is it possible to run meego image for netbooks on x64 system? | 13:14 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | morn jafa | 13:14 |
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| alterego | naquad: should be, as most 64 bit machines run in 32 bit mode :P | 13:16 |
| naquad | alterego, ok. i'm downloading image atm, want to run it with qemu-kvm. | 13:17 |
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| alterego | yeah, kvm works fine for me running 3wbit under 64 bit Os, it's the otherway around you can't do ;) | 13:18 |
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| alterego | Hey vgrade-nexus | 13:18 |
| vgrade-nexus | morning | 13:18 |
| vgrade-nexus | did you confirm the venue for the 20th? | 13:20 |
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| naquad | when i try to boot meego with qemu i get the following error: [drm:i915_init] *ERROR* drm/i915 can't work without intel_agp module - any ides how to fix this? | 13:30 |
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| ar | naquad: thing is, qemu doesn't emulate any graphics card, and it seems that meego requires intel graphics (at least on x86) | 13:56 |
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| naquad | ar, any ideas what should i do with it to make it work? | 13:57 |
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| jonnor | naquad: try to disable KMS/ the i915 module | 14:01 |
| lcuk2 | naquad, do you have i915 chipset? | 14:01 |
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| ar | lcuk2: "naquad | when i try to boot meego with qemu (...)" | 14:03 |
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| lcuk2 | ar arrrr | 14:23 |
| lcuk2 | w00t_, bug 14266 has been prioritised by Jessica | 14:24 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14266 nor, Medium, ---, viroteck, ASSI, Font character glyphs go missing inside application after viewing dashboard | 14:24 |
| w00t_ | so i see :) | 14:24 |
| naquad | so any ideas? it seems that thing can't run in any kind of emulators at all :( | 14:24 |
| w00t_ | my microsd should be arriving today | 14:24 |
| naquad | i've compiled qemu according to instruction at http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Qemu - that didn't help either (yeah, i know its about arm, but i thought it could work out for i386( | 14:25 |
| naquad | ) | 14:25 |
| lcuk2 | naquad, not sure about the complexities of qemu then as ar pointed out.. someone else might | 14:26 |
| lcuk2 | what spec is your host machine | 14:26 |
| naquad | lcuk2, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+, 2GB RAM, Arch Linux distro | 14:27 |
| naquad | 2.6.37 kernel | 14:27 |
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| lcuk2 | naquad, what graphics card? | 14:28 |
| naquad | nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a1) | 14:28 |
| lcuk2 | :D heh 7600GT is awesome | 14:29 |
| naquad | box is quiet old, i know :) | 14:29 |
| lcuk2 | not that it helps you run meego | 14:29 |
| naquad | i've tried another box with intel processord and ati radeon hd4870, x64 too, same story | 14:30 |
| lcuk2 | well (I think) the error you have is qemu trying to load the intel graphics driver | 14:30 |
| jonnor | naquad: tried disabling kms in the image? | 14:30 |
| lcuk2 | which neither machine has available | 14:30 |
| naquad | jonner, hm, how do i? | 14:31 |
| naquad | nokms kernel arg? | 14:31 |
| naquad | jonnor, ^^ sorry | 14:31 |
| naquad | completion sometimes sux | 14:31 |
| jonnor | naquad: nomodeset or somesuch. Documented on Arch wiki under KMS | 14:31 |
| jonnor | or the Intel page | 14:31 |
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| naquad | jonnor, did nomodeset i915.modeset=0 - same story | 14:34 |
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| jonnor | naquad: strange. What if you do i915.blacklist=yes ? | 14:48 |
| naquad | one sec, doing that | 14:48 |
| naquad | same again | 14:49 |
| jonnor | which Meego image? | 14:49 |
| naquad | meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.img | 14:49 |
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| jonnor | naquad: I'd try a 1.2 prerelease. Also, there is a wikipage about Meego Netbook 1.1 and virtualbox. It might contain relevant information | 14:51 |
| naquad | jonnor, where is that page? i didn't find any :( | 14:51 |
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| jonnor | naquad: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox | 15:01 |
| jonnor | it was 1.0 apparently | 15:01 |
| naquad | jonnor, thank you, seems to be working | 15:03 |
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| lcuk | apt-get install sandwich | 15:10 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: sounds good | 15:13 |
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| timeless_w7ip | hrm, is it me or is there a random line break in the MXR description @ http://meego.com/developers | 15:14 |
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| naquad | jonnor, what should i do in case when uxlaunch crashes all the time? | 15:14 |
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| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, looks that way. But I just tried something and not got an answer yet | 15:18 |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, it says I can use mxr to look up anything | 15:18 |
| lcuk | I entered "meaning of life" | 15:18 |
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| lcuk | "Sorry, it looks like our servers are having trouble! | 15:19 |
| lcuk | Please try your request again or use the links below to report the issue." | 15:19 |
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| mikhas | what do I need to do if I wanted to reserve #meego-meeting and occupy the meetbot | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | ~haveameegomeeting | 15:28 |
| infobot | well, haveameegomeeting is book at http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule , read http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_guidelines#IRC_Meeting_Guidelines and instructions for MeetBot at http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html | 15:28 |
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| mikhas | thanks infoboot | 15:29 |
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| jonnor | Installing Meego Handet on n900 will leave the Maemo install intact, right? | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes, if you do it right | 15:47 |
| jonnor | Stskeeps: I'm assuming http://meego.com/devices/handset/installing-meego-nokia-n900 documents the right way? | 15:48 |
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| Stskeeps | wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC too | 15:48 |
| timeless_w7ip | stskeeps: so i'm looking at https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AigJOFz-h_P4dE1ESTh4NkhHVGJtcmxBeHpXYmNaX1E&hl=en | 15:48 |
| * timeless_w7ip is trying to figure out what the top 50 people do | 15:48 | |
| Stskeeps | FEA#'s | 15:48 |
| timeless_w7ip | oh | 15:49 |
| timeless_w7ip | joy | 15:49 |
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| timeless_w7ip | good point | 15:49 |
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| timeless_w7ip | so a FEA is defined as a bug whose summary contains [FEA] ? | 15:50 |
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| lcuk | well timeless_w7ip if you opened it for editing we oculd write on what each person does | 15:50 |
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| lcuk | like #8 is Sage on the N900 adaption team | 15:50 |
| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: done. have at it | 15:51 |
| lcuk | \o | 15:51 |
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| jonnor | Stskeeps: ok, thanks | 15:51 |
| iekku | oh, i have reported 3 bugs :d | 15:51 |
| iekku | one is meta for FEA# | 15:52 |
| iekku | :D | 15:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | iekku: technically these numbers are not accurate | 15:52 |
| lcuk | 21 bugs for me | 15:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | e.g. if you query for me, you won't see the same number as in the report | 15:52 |
| iekku | timeless_w7ip, why did you make this? | 15:53 |
| timeless_w7ip | a comment i want to write on bug 9943 i think | 15:53 |
| Sage | I'm #8 in what? | 15:53 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9943 nor, Undecided, ---, eric.le-roux, NEED, Some Bugs are confidential in this open source project | 15:53 |
| timeless_w7ip | sage: number of bugs filed that i can see | 15:54 |
| timeless_w7ip | which should be roughly equivalent to number of bugs filed | 15:54 |
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| Sage | oh.... | 15:54 |
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| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, I have filled a few others in there, other folks need to login and do more though :$ | 15:56 |
| lcuk | https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AigJOFz-h_P4dE1ESTh4NkhHVGJtcmxBeHpXYmNaX1E&hl=en | 15:56 |
| * timeless_w7ip wonders what a [REG] is | 15:56 | |
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| timeless_w7ip | regression? | 15:57 |
| lcuk | those are members of the reggae music band. | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:57 |
| Sage | 7 people in top 50 are not Intel employees :) | 15:57 |
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| iekku | :) | 15:58 |
| lcuk | sage, Intel have a longer history, wasn't the database imported directly from moblin | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | no | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | bug 1 | 15:58 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1 maj, Medium, ---, vivian.zhang, VERI FIXED, [Tracker] tracker-miner-fs should be auto-started after system boot | 15:58 |
| lcuk | the long tail of others though should hopefully be a more balanced mix | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | look at date | 15:59 |
| lcuk | ahh Stskeeps was thinking those were imported | 15:59 |
| lcuk | like bug 440 | 15:59 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440 enh, Low, ---, sameo, ASSI, Unable to support ad-hoc mode for WiFi | 15:59 |
| lcuk | which DID come from there | 15:59 |
| lcuk | hence thinking that other of those early ones would | 15:59 |
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| timeless_w7ip | https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=short_desc&type0-0-0=notsubstring&value0-0-0=[FEA]&reporter=gavin.hindman@intel.com | 16:03 |
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| timeless_w7ip | is the query i'm using to review people fwiw | 16:03 |
| lcuk | did sami just manually enter 1400 bugs one after the other, or were they exported from some other document do you think | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | prolly inported | 16:04 |
| alterego | Heh | 16:05 |
| lcuk | yeah | 16:05 |
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| Sage | heh, didn't even remember my first bugs :) | 16:06 |
| lcuk | sage, most people don't | 16:06 |
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| lcuk | "umbilical cord connected" | 16:07 |
| timeless_w7ip | note to self: sort by bug # | 16:08 |
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| lcuk | \o/ navtec are trialing/implementing indoor navigation :D | 16:10 |
| lcuk | rolling out to a set of malls in the US :) | 16:10 |
| timeless_w7ip | oh if people could confirm + remove the ?'s i'd appreciate it | 16:11 |
| lcuk | http://www.allaboutmeego.com/news/item/12713_NavTeq_announce_their_indoor_n.php | 16:11 |
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| lcuk | Hi Bob, | 16:32 |
| lcuk | Sorry you've been having trouble logging into your Facebook account. | 16:32 |
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| lcuk | Dear Facebook, (a) I am not Bob. (b) I did not try to log in. KTHXBYE. | 16:32 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: at least you weren't signed up for mailing lists from the ronald reagan library | 16:37 |
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| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, I am not surprisingly signed up to quite a number of things | 16:38 |
| lcuk | but what would the Ronald Reagan library subscription offer? | 16:38 |
| timeless_w7ip | because you took the effort or because people can't spell their email address? | 16:38 |
| timeless_w7ip | email from a library about a dead president whom i didn't like? | 16:38 |
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| lcuk | well thankfully, many web signons now have verification stage, so I might get a number of you are signing up for ... | 16:39 |
| timeless_w7ip | but probably "please send money, k tanx, ps we R tx D-duct-Bill" | 16:39 |
| timeless_w7ip | this one forgot to implement that step :( | 16:39 |
| lcuk | but if I don't click the link to follow up they generally do not continue with signup | 16:39 |
| timeless_w7ip | "hi, we is incompetent" | 16:39 |
| timeless_w7ip | "just like our namesake" | 16:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | (actually, he wasn't as bad as some who followed him, but..) | 16:40 |
| lcuk | life. | 16:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | ... his solution was to spend the competition into failure | 16:40 |
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| timeless_w7ip | it did work, but we're still paying for it | 16:41 |
| lcuk | yeah | 16:41 |
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| timeless_w7ip | darn! | 16:54 |
| timeless_w7ip | lcuk; #41 | 16:54 |
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| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, is that the answer to what I asked earlier? | 16:54 |
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| lcuk | ps, the reggae playlist I started earlier is still playing, hadn't noticed how peaceful it was to have on in background :) | 16:56 |
| timeless_w7ip | it's the answer to the question for which i made my spreadsheet | 16:56 |
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| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, ok, so what was that question? | 16:57 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: who's actually involved in security related bugs | 17:01 |
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| lcuk | well yes, that is predictable | 17:04 |
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| timeless_w7ip | you could predict #41? | 17:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | anyway bug 9943 updated | 17:06 |
| _MeeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9943 nor, Undecided, ---, eric.le-roux, NEW, Some Bugs are confidential without reasonable justification | 17:06 |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, that there was more than a few | 17:07 |
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| qgil | Nice, another piece opened: http://lists.ofono.org/pipermail/ofono/2011-January/007030.html | 19:23 |
| qgil | (I had missed it) | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | ah, cool | 19:24 |
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| Stskeeps | might be useful on DE i think | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | still useful to use a n900 as a modem at times :) | 19:25 |
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| maligor | For some reason that brought into mind the wargames modem where you put the headset into the receiver | 19:31 |
| maligor | It'd certainly be amusing for modern cellphones | 19:32 |
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| hena | "the wargames modem" :) | 19:33 |
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| maligor | I'm too young to have experienced them myself ;P | 19:35 |
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| MeeGoExperts1 | Quick question: Its not possible to be logged in concurrently on two different devices with the same username on IRC is it ? | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | i personally have a server i connect to | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | with irssi on | 19:38 |
| maligor | there might be irc bouncers that allow that tho | 19:39 |
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| Stskeeps | true | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | irssi-proxy? | 19:39 |
| MeeGoExperts1 | Cool. Thanks :-) *off to research irssi* | 19:40 |
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| mihero | research screen also | 19:41 |
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| maligor | there's also generic bouncers, but they tend to have history issues | 19:44 |
| maligor | but haven't used those for a long while now | 19:44 |
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| smoku | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbBmfqQrsFg - this works just great :D | 20:49 |
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| niala1 | hello #meego | 21:37 |
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| niala1 | hello CosmoHill how are you? | 21:55 |
| CosmoHill | mixed emotions, I'm not a teenager, I swear | 21:56 |
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| Znk | Hi | 23:13 |
| mikhas | iH | 23:14 |
| Znk | someone here? | 23:14 |
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| berndhs | 500 of them | 23:14 |
| Znk | the best netbook for MeeGo? | 23:14 |
| thiago_home | lenovo ideapad | 23:14 |
| mikhas | but only because many others have it, therefore cheap support ;-) | 23:15 |
| Znk | lenovo? | 23:15 |
| gabrbedd | Znk: Lenovo S10-3t ideapad with atheros wifi card. | 23:15 |
| mikhas | some form of inofficial reference device | 23:15 |
| gabrbedd | Znk: (Note that *many* ship with a broadcom card.) | 23:15 |
| lcuk | didn't broadcom sort out the drivers? | 23:16 |
| lcuk | ie that does not matter | 23:16 |
| gabrbedd | mikhas: It was the first convertable netbook with touchscreen to hit the market... so, yeah. | 23:16 |
| lcuk | gabrbedd, it has about the same spec as the lenovo x41 :P | 23:17 |
| Znk | Im thinking in Asus EeePC 1005PXD but if you say that Lenovo is better... | 23:17 |
| lcuk | which I had for years | 23:17 |
| lcuk | infact - lower spec :P | 23:17 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: AFAIK, broadcom still not sorted, yet. But there's a light at the end of the tunnel. | 23:17 |
| Znk | In the store have the Lenovo IdeaPad S10 | 23:18 |
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| mikhas | that light being a broadcom train? | 23:18 |
| gabrbedd | Znk: I'm not saying it's "better" -- I'm just saying that you can have my Ideapad when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. | 23:18 |
| Znk | haha | 23:18 |
| mikhas | it has a nice multi-touch capable display, if that counts | 23:19 |
| gabrbedd | Znk: The ASUS may be nice... I've just never played with one. For MeeGo you want an N450 processor, supported multi-touch touchscreen, and supported wifi card. | 23:19 |
| lcuk | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/215919/broadcom_joins_the_linux_foundation.html | 23:20 |
| lcuk | "Broadcom will continue to work on the Linux Driver Project, and it will also participate in The Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit, " | 23:20 |
| lcuk | that is coming up now isn't it? | 23:21 |
| lcuk | (tfa was from January) | 23:21 |
| Znk | hmmm where i can buy the Lenovo that you say? im from spain :S | 23:22 |
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| lcuk | Znk, goto hardware store: purchase 1 (one) flux capacitor, install into handy delorean, set dial to November 15th 2010, travel on highway at 88 (eighty eight) mile per hour. | 23:24 |
| thiago_home | doesn't lenovo have a spanish website? | 23:24 |
| Znk | i dont know, searching.... xD | 23:25 |
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| gabrbedd | lcuk: Right... but an OSS driver for the Lenovo Broadcom Wifi cards is not in 1.1, and AFAIK will not be in 1.2 (at least... 2.6.37 didn't work for me!) | 23:27 |
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| vgrade | http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.html, | 23:44 |
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| lbt | 404 vgrade | 23:44 |
| alterego | not for me | 23:45 |
| berndhs | 404 from here | 23:45 |
| alterego | Oh, yeah it is | 23:45 |
| alterego | porbably no trailing comma | 23:45 |
| alterego | hurp no | 23:46 |
| lbt | non us? | 23:46 |
| alterego | vgrade is in the uk | 23:47 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, vgrade it is the article about honeycomb | 23:47 |
| lcuk | just go to main page and link again | 23:47 |
| berndhs | maybe need the delorean with the flux thingy ? | 23:47 |
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| lcuk | i got 404 when using the link (even removing the comma) but it is happy to be displayed via the main content page | 23:48 |
| lbt | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/memes-business-cat-take-this-job.jpg | 23:48 |
| lbt | much better | 23:48 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: I think they forgot to hook up the doll | 23:49 |
| vgrade | http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.htm | 23:50 |
| lcuk | >>> everyday superhero >>> http://badassoftheweek.com/akaiwa.html | 23:50 |
| * gabrbedd strokes chin thoughtfully... | 23:50 | |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, I was just stroking mine when I read that - do you have a beard also? | 23:51 |
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| alterego | lcuk: I was reading that sentence and got kind of scared | 23:52 |
| alterego | until the last two words. | 23:52 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: No, or I would have said "beard" instead of "chin" | 23:52 |
| gabrbedd | lcuk: used to, though. | 23:52 |
| lcuk | vgrade, the wuestion is not whether code is being held back, it is if they have distributed things which use the code (which is where licensing things come in) | 23:54 |
| lcuk | if no distribution occured, why are we reading this article | 23:54 |
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| lcuk | movie question: Comedy "The Other Guys" is it worth sitting through the DVD that is here? | 23:56 |
| pixelgeek1 | lcuk: Motorola Xoom is currenly shipping in the US with Honeycomb | 23:56 |
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| pixelgeek1 | 78% on rotton tomatoes - do you like Will Ferrell? | 23:57 |
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| lcuk | only in certain films, zoolander tickled immensely | 23:58 |
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