IRC log of #meego for Thursday, 2010-11-04

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smithnaHi,  If I want to track with efforts towards 1.2 should I upgrade packages based off of 1.1 or download and reinstall fresh images on a somewhat routine basis?00:05
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Aardf/win 5400:06
smithnaAard: ?00:07
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Aardthat was supposed to take me to irssi window 54 :)00:07
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MyrttiAard: http://niklas.laxstrom.name/page/eng/irssi00:09
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AardMyrtti: hey, I've been too lazy in all those years to adjust the window changing bindings to work properly with dvorak...00:11
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MyrttiAard: so you need to set up only the ten first properly and the rest is easy :-P00:13
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Aardyeah, maybe soon... :)00:14
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lukaso666hi, i have a question: is possible to install MeeGo on Nokia C3-00?00:25
TSCHAKeee2lukaso666: short answer. No.00:26
TSCHAKeee2not so short answer: No, because nobody has ported it.00:26
lukaso666TSCHAkeee2, thanks :)00:26
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cobra-the-jokerhey guys ..i know that seems a little bit retarted .. but i cant seem to find the logout button in meego :S:S00:41
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cobra-the-jokerits urgent :D ... i need to logout00:43
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CosmoHillon the website?00:43
TSCHAKeee2hit the power button00:43
cobra-the-jokerhmmm ... wont that shutdown ?00:44
CosmoHillyes it will00:44
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cobra-the-jokerthats not very amazing :(00:45
cobra-the-jokerok thanx anyway00:46
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Alison_ChaikenDawnFoster, I like your book.   Most of your advice is common sense about how to avoid boorish behavior, but the advice is easier to recite than to follow.  If I read your book from cover to cover, then I don't have to read Jono's too, right?01:29
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DawnFosterAlison_Chaiken: ha! Jono has a different take on some things, so it might be interesting to read both (his is a bit longer) :)01:31
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DawnFosterAlison_Chaiken: happy to hear that you are enjoying the book01:31
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Alison_ChaikenDawnFoster, it's easy to blithely dismiss your advice as being all obvious, but I notice that not everyone is following it all the time!   Your years of thinking about responsible community participation are evident though.01:32
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DawnFosteryeah, the audience for that book is companies making their first entry into communities.01:33
DawnFosterI wrote most of it when I was consulting and you would be amazed at the boneheaded things companies try to do in communities01:34
Alison_ChaikenBy the way, does anyone have a contact at Wind River here in the Bay Area?   Quim was interested in having our MeeGo meetup at different venues and Wind River came to my mind, but the folks I pinged there have so far not answered.01:35
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npmDawnFoster: you mean like Oracle ? :-)01:38
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CosmoHillcyas01:56
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nialaCosmoHill:  night01:58
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nialaCosmoHill: om win 7-0 :)01:58
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MOUDHey all03:21
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brandoDoes anybody happen to know how to re-integrate chrome so that history shoes up in "myzone"?04:01
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xiao_Hello there, is there any tool can eat memory for MeeGo headset testing?05:38
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michaelg|nokxiao_: mozilla? :)05:43
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Jay_BEEjeahh!  meego is up and running on my n900! w00 h00!07:56
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tob4ls08:03
tob4Hello08:03
Jay_BEEhi08:04
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tob4New to the room but just wanted to get a feel of whats up on the Meego Scene08:06
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Jay_BEEnice... fennec is pulling up websitez08:09
tob4mhmm what do you mean?08:11
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tob4@Jay_Bee08:11
Jay_BEEi'm surfing via firefox (fennec) in meego on my n90008:12
tob4Yessir, I got that some combo too but am on my pc.08:14
tob4Fennecs much better on the N900 than on my Vibrant. despite the 400mhz difference08:14
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th3hateanyone tried 1.1.80.4.20101102.1 on n900?09:17
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sunilfabo, fabo_ ping09:29
faboHi sunil09:29
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KaZeRhi there10:58
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KaZeRi have currently an issue with IVI : wifi setup via the GUI doesn't work (but i can scan from the commandline). can anyone help?11:03
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eraniKaZeR: what hw you have11:17
eraninot eeepc possibly?11:18
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kulveI tried to follow the SDK 1.1 installation instruction for Linux for n900. Is there somewhere a qemu runtime for n900?11:20
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KaZeRerani, i have an asus 901, which works just fine with the meego desktop11:45
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ziyadbtrying to mount a windows ntfs partition12:00
ziyadbgetting all sorts of errors12:00
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ziyadbI get this one when browsing to it12:03
ziyadbDBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending12:03
eraniKaZeR: yeah. thought so... I have a 1000H myself, and we have similar Wifi-problems. :P check this thread for a workaround: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=175612:03
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KaZeRthanks erani12:04
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KaZeRlooks exactly like my issue, thank you!12:05
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kt_Stskeeps: yesterday you suggested: "google for jack detection 82801g is what i'd do"12:09
kt_Stskeeps: I have done that but so far not have any success in finding a solution. I have also found a little test utility called evtest.c but it does the same thing as my own code. I have searched for "alsa jack detection" and end up with the alsa api function snd_jack_report12:11
kt_but i think it also looks in /dev/input/eventX12:12
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eraniKaZeR: You're welcome!12:13
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Jaffadneary: pong12:18
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kt_In Meego if i run lsmod i cannot find a sound driver - but the sound is working. Why is that? Is the sound driver built into the kernel?12:30
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Myrtti\o/ ♥ ♥ ♥ \o/ I love all my friends and especially GAN900. That's all for now, thanks for your attention ;-)12:38
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eraniI wonder why Firefox was dropped as a default browser in MeeGo12:41
MyrttiI don't ;-)12:43
Myrttibesides, *which* MeeGo?12:44
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raulihaven't built any real stats, but chrome does feel faster than firefox on an atom netbook13:00
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eraniMyrtti: 1.1 netbook :)13:48
eranibut is chrome going to be also default browser in mobile version?13:49
eranimobile phone*13:49
eranifrom layman's point of view it would be cool to sync your bookmarks between netbook and a phone easily. I guess there could be some kind of a workout or a program doing that if netbook/tablet/phone meego uses different browsers, but wouldn't same browser make it easier. :x I don't knot much of this topic but just to mention...13:50
Myrttierani: I use delicious for all my bookmarks that I need to share between anything13:52
Myrttithe bookmarks I have on any given browser are usually meant for only that particular device or browser instance13:53
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eranioh ok :)13:54
ColKilkennyany browser capable of doing extensions can sync bookmarks via opera link api (if someone would just create those extensions)13:55
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ivrubanoHello. Can anyone help me? I'm trying to startmeego or qtcreator and get qtcreator: cannot connect to X server :0.0. What is wrong?14:44
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ayushThis question probably gets asked a lot here. But when will smartphones running MeeGo start being sold? Does anybody know?15:11
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Myrttino certain dates apart from developer devices15:12
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Myrttionly rumours15:12
ayushwhat are the rumours?15:12
ayushalso, will all nokia smartphones run MeeGo in the future?15:13
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MyrttiNokia CEO has said some vague promises about Q1 of 2011, but Q1 can mean anything from beginning of January to end of March, or be postponed15:13
Myrttialso nothing stops other manufacturers getting ahead.15:14
TSCHAKeee2keep in mind15:14
TSCHAKeee2that MeeGo is really a base for vendors to extend upon15:14
TSCHAKeee2so vendors can throw their own engineering might at their own system with the code we have now15:15
Myrttiyeah, I'd be highly surprised if anyone would ship the vanilla version15:15
MyrttiE_MAKENOSENSE15:15
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ayushso are there any other manufacturers planning to use MeeGo?15:16
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Myrttithere's again rumours floating around15:16
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Myrttiwhich may or may not be based on truth15:16
ayushoh okay. thanks15:17
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pupnikone problem with a consortium is no one mfgr wants to invest too much15:28
pupnikand get taken aadvantage of15:28
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Myrttier, right16:59
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tararahi all, i can't run meego on vmware workstation. after sutesfull instalation it make reboot and... and black screen18:23
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tararai use meego 1.1 for netbook and vmware 7.1.218:24
tararaIs there a similar problem on a real computer? I want to install it on the ASUS eee pc 1001 px later18:26
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tararaHi all, i can't run meego on vmware workstation. after sutesfull instalation it make reboot and... and black screen. I used meego 1.1 for netbook and vmware 7.1.2. Is there a similar problem on a real computer? I want to install it on the ASUS eee pc 1001 px later.18:29
Myrttiwe did read you on the first try18:29
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Myrttithe problems on the vm might be related to graphics driver issues18:30
tararaSorry. I was the first time on this channel18:30
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tararaMyrtti, on real comp it will be fine?18:38
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Myrttitarara: difficult to know, depends on what GPU it has, I'm not acquainted with netbooks and even less with eepc1001px' so I don't know18:38
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tararaMyrtti, thanks. Can I run meego without shell?18:40
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tararaMyrtti, can it help?18:41
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Myrttitarara: I wouldn't know18:47
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Myrtti*sigh*21:43
Myrttifriends are loverly ♥21:43
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CosmoHillyay21:44
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lcukMyrtti, only after you cook them thoroughly21:57
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Myrttilcuk: getting somewhat drunk with them seems to work too :-)22:01
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over100500How to start new MeeGo-netbook in QEMU? "qemugl -m024 -vga std -boot d -hda meego-netbook.raw -cdrom /mnt/data/user/1/meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.img"  than it write "cant start without intel_agp module"22:04
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over100500Qemu cloned from git://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/meego-emulator-qemugl-x86.git22:05
over100500and checkouted qemugl22:05
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CosmoHillMyrtti: I'm having some of my best friends over tomorrow and my family for fireworks :D22:11
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Myrttiyou're being awfully quiet tonight22:55
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CosmoHillme?22:59
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Myrttieveryone23:01
DawnFosterShhhh, you'll wake them up23:01
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* CosmoHill goes to watch Have I got News for you23:02
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UlfHofemeierw00t?23:04
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CosmoHillis it good or bad that all my mid-term election stuff is coming from this comedy show23:15
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ShadowJKTheOnion is good too23:17
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wazd1guys, can anyone tell me the exact address of Balsbridge Inn?23:18
CosmoHillhave you tried their website?23:18
DawnFosterI like to get my news from Jon Stewart23:18
wazd1CosmoHill: actually yes :) It's pretty uninformative23:18
wazd1http://www.d4hotels.ie/map.html23:19
CosmoHillreally? cos that seems the kinda thing you should have on it23:19
ShadowJKOvi Maps says no results for Balsbridge :)23:19
wazd1CosmoHill: that's what every human will do. Unfortunately, D4 hotels are rulled by robots :D23:19
wazd1ShadowJK: Ballsbridge23:20
ShadowJK4, pembroke road, ballbridge23:20
ShadowJKballs*23:21
CosmoHillhahgahahah23:21
ShadowJKcourtesy ovi maps on n900 :P23:21
ShadowJK"D4 Ballsbridge Inn"23:21
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wazd1ShadowJK: awesome, thanks :)23:23
CosmoHillthe ovi map is another good suggestion23:23
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ShadowJKit costs a fortune in data if he's there :)23:24
CosmoHillisn't the Ovi map loaded onto the phone?23:25
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ShadowJKfor the country in which you buy it23:25
CosmoHillisn't the ovi map also free for nokia users?23:26
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ShadowJKkinda fun, it uses almost no data in your home country where data is cheap/free23:26
CosmoHillcos I plugged my phone into my PC and installed Ovi Maps 3.0 onto it23:26
ShadowJKbut once you go abroad it starts burning through megabytes and megabytes of data at your usual roaming charges23:26
CosmoHillI never paid for anything and my phone has never been online23:27
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ShadowJKovi maps 3 is a symbian thing23:27
CosmoHillmine is set to never go online23:27
CosmoHilloh23:27
ShadowJKovi maps maemo has no such setting, and search doesn't work offline23:27
CosmoHillI thought it was a nokia selling point23:27
ShadowJKheh23:28
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ShadowJKso did a lot of users ;)23:28
CosmoHill:o23:28
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ShadowJKIt has no voice navigation either :)23:30
CosmoHillI had it for 90 days but now it wants money23:30
CosmoHillon a side note, if that happened mid journey I would be very annoyed23:30
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CosmoHilland by very annoyed, I mean in god knows where swearing at my phone23:31
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GAN900Anybody pick a god pre-paid SIM for Dublin?23:33
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CosmoHillGAN900: I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone, got Orange for my brother and O2 for my parents23:35
CosmoHillI think they're all in Ireland23:35
GAN900Cheap pre-paid SIMs with data for 3 or 4 days?23:35
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CosmoHillah you want data23:37
CosmoHillI'll have a lot23:37
CosmoHillwhat country you in now btw ( just curious)?23:37
CosmoHillas far as I know there is wifi for people in the hotel23:38
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CosmoHillGAN900: http://vodafone.ie/offers/prepay/freecallstxt/23:42
MyrttiGAN900: AH-HA!23:44
CosmoHillGAN900: http://three.ie/products_services/priceplans/prepay/index.htm << Three is pretty much made for mobile interweb23:45
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Myrttimeh, always end up missing him23:55
Myrttioh well.23:56
Myrttinight night23:56
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CosmoHillcyas23:58
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