| w00t_ | I watch many things at the same time | 00:00 |
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| w00t_ | (same with reading etc) | 00:00 |
| lcuk | eep w00t_ i once tried that with books | 00:00 |
| w00t_ | lcuk: my record was reading around 6 different books at once :p | 00:00 |
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| CosmoHill | w00t_: don't things get mixed up in your head? | 00:00 |
| w00t_ | more than that I just don't have the time for | 00:00 |
| lcuk | its easier now to get a box set and sit throguh series at a time | 00:00 |
| w00t_ | CosmoHill: no | 00:00 |
| lcuk | through | 00:00 |
| w00t_ | I just switch context to what I'm doing at the time and I'm a happy clam | 00:00 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, w00t_ - i suppose bite size pieces of books is like watching a few tv shows during a week | 00:01 |
| w00t_ | exactly | 00:01 |
| * lcuk rarely watches realtime tv | 00:01 | |
| w00t_ | the problem comes when I find a book I can't put down, because then I get totally absorbed in it for however long it takes me to finish | 00:01 |
| w00t_ | to the detriment of my sleep rhythm, usually | 00:02 |
| lcuk | heh | 00:02 |
| * w00t_ started reading some interesting stuff yesterday around 10pm, next looked at the clock to find it 4am | 00:03 | |
| lcuk | w00t_, facebrick update from mrs w00t_ on planet at the moment | 00:03 |
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| lcuk | the screenshot | 00:03 |
| lcuk | it shows blurred out people | 00:03 |
| lcuk | one of them looks like someone is mooning the camera | 00:03 |
| w00t_ | hahah | 00:03 |
| w00t_ | with friends like Brik's i'd not be surprised | 00:03 |
| Brik | lol :| | 00:04 |
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| lcuk | oh, hi Brik \o | 00:04 |
| Brik | (can you blame me for blurring them out?) | 00:04 |
| lcuk | not at all | 00:04 |
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| Brik | hi lcuk :) | 00:04 |
| lcuk | but is it mooning or just a pair of heads that looks that way? | 00:05 |
| lcuk | h:D | 00:05 |
| lcuk | gahhh | 00:05 |
| lcuk | i am going to rip this nipple off my keyboard | 00:05 |
| w00t_ | speaking of facebrick | 00:05 |
| Brik | pretty sure it's just someone looking like an ass | 00:05 |
| lcuk | :D | 00:05 |
| w00t_ | "There are some people in this world that make you facepalm so hard that you highfive the person behind you." | 00:05 |
| w00t_ | is one of the best quotes i've seen in a while | 00:05 |
| lcuk | Brik the ass person is emma | 00:06 |
| lcuk | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eWzefzyaqQQ/TFwB7p_5KqI/AAAAAAAAAiU/TYtm0WkG9UU/s1600/Screenshot-20100806-143354.png | 00:06 |
| w00t_ | lcuk: your keyboard has a nipple? | 00:06 |
| w00t_ | i want one of those :) | 00:06 |
| lcuk | yes w00t_ | 00:06 |
| lcuk | an inverted one as well | 00:06 |
| w00t_ | ouch, ingrown nipple | 00:07 |
| w00t_ | sounds painful | 00:07 |
| lcuk | since I had this laptop I have taken to messing with it | 00:07 |
| w00t_ | ;p | 00:07 |
| achipa | w00t_: some people even keep spares | 00:07 |
| w00t_ | i need to organise a new laptop actually | 00:07 |
| w00t_ | my one is basically a desktop replacement, and i will soon need to be at least semi-mobile | 00:07 |
| w00t_ | so that isn't really an option | 00:07 |
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| lcuk | i had to tweak it really hard the other day because my pointer kept rising | 00:08 |
| w00t_ | lol | 00:08 |
| Brik | lcuk: yeah that's a photo of two people (sorry to ruin your illusion) ;p | 00:08 |
| w00t_ | i have the most disturbed image of you stroking your keyboard nipple now. | 00:08 |
| w00t_ | just so you know. | 00:08 |
| lcuk | Brik, thats perfectly ok | 00:08 |
| lcuk | nahh i just spin the cursor around | 00:08 |
| CosmoHill | hey Brik | 00:09 |
| Brik | hei CosmoHill :) | 00:09 |
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| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 00:20 |
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| b0xy | what is the location of the grub boot arguments file that's like /boot/grub/menu.lst on Debian? | 00:21 |
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| b0xy | nevermind. /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf | 00:24 |
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| b0xy | on boot to the correct disk, I think it's still pointing to the wrong boot device somehow. everything points to /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sda1. getting the error "Could not open -p. fsck.ext3: no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1" | 00:33 |
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| trueboard | does anyone know if the meego netbook os will work in a car | 02:45 |
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| Macer | hm | 04:25 |
| Macer | so like. can't i use the nitdroid dual booter to boot meego on a separate partition? | 04:26 |
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| MeOnTheGo | hello, i am a neophyte in the meego developement activity | 09:51 |
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| Stskeeps | everyone has to start somewhere :) | 09:51 |
| MeOnTheGo | i had been studying architecture for last few days and i am a student by profession | 09:52 |
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| MeOnTheGo | i want to contribute to the core OS. anyone ready to direct me in correct way ? | 09:53 |
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| Stskeeps | MeOnTheGo: well, core os is big, any specific areas? | 09:53 |
| MeOnTheGo | i am using meego 1.0 for netbooks and everything's so fast | 09:54 |
| MeOnTheGo | file-systems...as meego has btrfs by default | 09:54 |
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| MeOnTheGo | are there any researches going on to bring dynamicity in process management? | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | mm, that's kernel development/schedulers? | 09:56 |
| MeOnTheGo | sir, i am open to all areas in contributing to the OS | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, then start filing bugs, see code at meego.gitorious.org or in source rpms and start contributing :) | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | or see what bugs are open, to get to know the areas | 09:57 |
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| MeOnTheGo | thank you sir | 09:58 |
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| shaurya | what is meego | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | www.meego.com | 10:52 |
| timeless | shaurya: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=meego | 10:52 |
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| mece | hehehe | 10:52 |
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| MeOnTheGo | are there any features that meego should have had incorporated in it, but are currently not | 11:37 |
| MeOnTheGo | i mean the features related to the core OS | 11:37 |
| MeOnTheGo | or may be kernels/schedulers | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | usually most work goes on in upstream linux | 11:38 |
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| TermanaN900 | it is missing something | 11:39 |
| ChildOfGod | Could someone point me to libsocialweb documentation? | 11:39 |
| TermanaN900 | automatic n00b killer. does that count? | 11:39 |
| townxelliot | I'm going to upgrade the wiki software in about 20 minutes time | 11:40 |
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| TermanaN900 | ChildOfGod, have you looked at the docs folder in the libsocialweb tree? | 11:41 |
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| Ajay | hey hii | 12:29 |
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| Ajay | i hav joined the mailing lists for quite a few days now | 12:29 |
| Ajay | n i wanna know if there is something big enough to make as my college project here | 12:30 |
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| czajkowski | aloha | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | Ajay: probably plenty, but many things are time-limited due to requirement for meego 1.1 | 12:31 |
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| lcuk | small question regarding dd'ing meego RAW image direct from N900, the instructions here http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC | 12:36 |
| lcuk | say to: | 12:36 |
| lcuk | sudo gainroot | 12:36 |
| lcuk | umount /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 12:36 |
| lcuk | dd if=/home/user/MyDocs/meego-image.raw of=/dev/mmcblk1 | 12:36 |
| lcuk | shouldn't that of= parameter to dd be /dev/mmcblk1p1 ?? | 12:37 |
| lcuk | and if its wrong, does it vape anything bad? | 12:37 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps you may know | 12:37 |
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| sandst1 | at least when dd'ing from pc it's e.g. /dev/sdc instead of /dev/sdc1 so i guess the same applies here? | 12:39 |
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| hena | lcuk, depends whether you use partitions or not | 12:39 |
| lcuk | hena, well the line above just told it to umount one specific partition | 12:39 |
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| lcuk | so I would have thought consistency etc | 12:39 |
| hena | no, i mean whole device / first partition of device | 12:40 |
| lcuk | sure, but on the off chance someone had more partitions typing those commands would potentially violate that? | 12:40 |
| lcuk | i don't know if its a problem or not (hence me asking) | 12:40 |
| lcuk | it just looked wrong | 12:40 |
| hena | well, i guess one should know what they're doing and not just blindly copypaste ;) | 12:41 |
| hena | and the howto does say "First what you need is a microSD memory card which does not contain any information that you need as it will be erased during this operation. | 12:42 |
| hena | " | 12:42 |
| lcuk | sigh | 12:43 |
| hena | or are you asking if it's possible to use paritions? | 12:43 |
| hena | -typos | 12:43 |
| hena | what the command does is it overwrites the memory card with the image, on the "device level" | 12:45 |
| lcuk | i was asking if the instructions are actually correct since they look wrong to me, they may be completely correct but theres nothing like confirmation from others who have done the same | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: no, mmcblkX | 12:45 |
| lcuk | k, ta :) | 12:45 |
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| Ajay | . | 12:52 |
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| Ajay | hey can anybody suggest me some topic big enough to make as my engineering project with 4 ppl | 12:52 |
| Ajay | ?? | 12:53 |
| Ajay | i have been through the bug list many times | 12:54 |
| Ajay | n din find anything big enough | 12:54 |
| Ajay | i am looking to work on something in the core os | 12:54 |
| Ajay | ?? | 12:55 |
| Ajay | may be in the file system i.e data management section | 12:55 |
| Ajay | or schedulers | 12:55 |
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| hena | meego optimized i/o scheduler :) | 12:57 |
| Ajay | ?? | 12:58 |
| Ajay | can u elaborate please | 12:58 |
| Ajay | hena i hav been loking to do something there | 12:59 |
| hena | low cpu, lesser memory etc... your standard meego device i/o scheduler that beats current ones | 12:59 |
| Ajay | can u soggest something | 12:59 |
| Ajay | *suggest | 12:59 |
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| Ajay | can u give me some link where i can find some more detail or if you show me some way that would really help | 13:01 |
| Ajay | hena | 13:01 |
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| Ajay | . | 13:02 |
| Ajay | ?? | 13:02 |
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| Ajay | hena u there ?? | 13:03 |
| fabo | Ajay: I'll suggest to post a mail on meego-dev maliling list. There's several similar requests. | 13:04 |
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| Ajay | hena ya i already did that but people do not tend to reply to mails like that | 13:05 |
| Ajay | sorry that was for fabo | 13:06 |
| Ajay | fabo did u personally come across that u thought could have been better | 13:06 |
| Ajay | i mean in the core os | 13:06 |
| Ajay | may be in data management block (file sys) or the security layer | 13:07 |
| Ajay | ?? | 13:08 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, 2gb MMC is not enough space | 13:08 |
| lcuk | just a FYI | 13:08 |
| lcuk | Nokia-N900:/home/user/MyDocs/fm_meego# dd if=meego-handset-armv5tel-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.13.20100803.2-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/mmcblk1 | 13:09 |
| lcuk | dd: writing '/dev/mmcblk1': No space left on device | 13:09 |
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| Ajay | hey lcuk can u suggest me some thing to work on project as my engineering project | 13:10 |
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| Ajay | anybody there on this channel | 13:12 |
| lcuk | Ajay, weren't you here yesterday pestering with the same question? how can anyone here suggest something when they don't know your team or anything - you guys know your skills and theres plenty of open bugs you can get teeth into that match your abilities | 13:12 |
| lcuk | find one of them yourselves and have a go at fixing it | 13:12 |
| lcuk | as more and more get fixed by you and your team people might start coming asking you to do specific things, but you have to show the initiative | 13:13 |
| Ajay | okay | 13:13 |
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| meego | Hi | 13:14 |
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| lcuk | meego, do you speak for #meego ? | 13:20 |
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| cp15 | Anybody here who feels responsible for navit? | 13:21 |
| meego | what are you looking for Navit? | 13:23 |
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| cp15 | Well, I am the project leader for navit and I wonder how to work together a bit more closely | 13:25 |
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| Stskeeps | cp15: best thing is to mail meego-dev@meego.com , i'm not sure the IVI guys are represented here | 13:25 |
| cp15 | Ok, thanks, I will try | 13:26 |
| lcuk | meego, could I ask your affiliation with #meego, since you are speaking with that nickname it might be construed incorrectly | 13:26 |
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| ramoncio | nice, a crowded channel | 13:39 |
| ramoncio | good day to all | 13:40 |
| ramoncio | I have just one question at the moment, maybe someone can help | 13:40 |
| ramoncio | can this work? | 13:40 |
| ramoncio | dd bs=4096 if=meego-handset-armv5tel-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.13.20100803.2-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/mmcblk1p3 | 13:41 |
| ramoncio | or I need to do? | 13:41 |
| ramoncio | dd bs=4096 if=meego-handset-armv5tel-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.13.20100803.2-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/mmcblk1 | 13:41 |
| ramoncio | I want to keep the other partitions, and just use mmcblk1p3 for meego | 13:41 |
| ramoncio | is it possible?? | 13:41 |
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| Stskeeps | mmcblk1, and no | 13:42 |
| ramoncio | bad then | 13:42 |
| ramoncio | thanks Stskeeps | 13:43 |
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| javiF | hi | 14:03 |
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| javiF | should the connman component work inside the Simulator | 14:03 |
| javiF | im running the netbook SDK inside a chroot | 14:03 |
| javiF | i have inet connection but the connman software is not able to detect any device | 14:04 |
| javiF | thanks in advance | 14:04 |
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| koupsaa | hello, :) | 14:46 |
| koupsaa | I have a question about update today. I cannot read http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3607. and the other. bugzilla says me You are not authorized to access bug #3607. why? | 14:47 |
| koupsaa | thats right? | 14:47 |
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| maclaver | Hi Jaffa2, just go the tweet.... | 16:43 |
| maclaver | Sorry, got the tweet. | 16:43 |
| maclaver | Anyway, for people who are interested there is a sample design of the developer.meego.com web site at http://wiki.meego.com/Application_developer_site/WireFrames. | 16:44 |
| maclaver | Comments are welcome... | 16:44 |
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| fcocuadrado | Hi all! Someone knows how to share a meego between various users? | 18:17 |
| fcocuadrado | Because I searched a lot but I didn't find anything | 18:17 |
| fcocuadrado | I look for something like in GNOME with GDM | 18:17 |
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| fcocuadrado | that I can login with various users | 18:18 |
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| slaine | fcocuadrado: it's not part of the netbook design | 18:22 |
| fcocuadrado | ok | 18:22 |
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| fcocuadrado | so, I can't login with various users in MeeGo? | 18:23 |
| arjan | nope | 18:23 |
| arjan | we're still investigating how to do that | 18:23 |
| arjan | but it's not easy to do it nicely. | 18:23 |
| fcocuadrado | ok, so this feature would be included in a near/far future | 18:23 |
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| fcocuadrado | thanks, arjan | 18:26 |
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| Phazorx | win7 have corrupted bootloader and i a trying to revive meego install on HD with usb stcik loaded meego - can i do it at bootoader stage (where it asks for press [tab]) ? | 18:57 |
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| CosmoHill | stupid xchat | 19:36 |
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| Phazorx | win7 have corrupted bootloader and i a trying to revive meego install on HD with usb stcik loaded meego - how can i do it at bootoader stage (where extlinux suggests to press [tab] for prompt) ? | 19:43 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: thanks for the reply on my Xserver bugreport | 20:52 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: as you asked me to use a non-handset build, I am wondering if the bug is really resolved though. did you fix the xml so future handset builds for n900 will include the Xserver | 20:53 |
| dcordes | Stskeeps: I am particularly interested in testing the handset GUI | 20:53 |
| Stskeeps | dcordes: the problem is there doesn't exist any workable handset images for n900 without closed bits.. we're a bit hoping to start having 'n900 qemu' images which are not needing closed bits | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | dcordes: you can easily edit the kickstart file to make it into a handset image :) | 20:54 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: to be honest I still did not look into compiling | 20:55 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: the kickstart file is the local configuration that included machine type and image type etc ? | 20:55 |
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| Stskeeps | dcordes: look at the contents of a .ks file :) | 20:56 |
| dcordes | ok | 20:56 |
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| * dcordes is used to .bb files :) | 20:56 | |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: hm wait a sec... the lack of xserver is due to "there doesn't exist any workable handset images for n900 without closed bits.. " you using closed xserver video module ? | 21:03 |
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| Stskeeps | dcordes: no, our open xorg module uses libPVR2D which is SGX closed lib :/ | 21:04 |
| dcordes | Stskeeps: ok maybe you can append that in the bug ? | 21:04 |
| dcordes | also in that case maybe put it as invalid rather than solved ? | 21:05 |
| dcordes | others might get confused | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | dcordes: but other devices can use fbdev easily :) | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | dcordes: i'll consider it for tomorrow for when i'm back at work if that's okay | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | dcordes: what do you hope to port meego to? | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | out of curiousity | 21:07 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: qualcomm qsd8250 and friends | 21:07 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: not the iPad ;) | 21:07 |
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| Stskeeps | dcordes: that's armv5/v6/v7 and do you have gles libraries? | 21:07 |
| dcordes | Stskeeps: personally I am working on this devices http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo and I am eager to get meego going on it | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | right, i'd say initially: don't bother with handset UX unless you have gles capability. sw rendering isn't fun | 21:09 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: ...and similar devices. we have a very powerful DSP providing high performance 2d and 3d accerlation with opengl | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | and when i say gles, i mean gles with support for xorg :) | 21:09 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: the downside is, it is only usable by a closed google android library. so accerlation is a no go in meego. | 21:10 |
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| dcordes | Stskeeps: we can only use xf86-video-fbdev or xf86-video-msm . the msm driver at least makes use of the NEON etc | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | dcordes: right, core would be a good start then. maybe ivi can be used as a proper interface | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to hang out in #meego-arm | 21:11 |
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| Phazorx | for netbook image are tere any c32 modules installed that come with the image for extlinux? | 21:14 |
| Phazorx | can i even use the netbook image somehow to boot of same image installed onto the netbook (BCD screewed the bootloader, i am trying to revive the linux on hd) | 21:16 |
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| lbt | bah,... finni | 21:36 |
| lbt | sh people drink too much | 21:36 |
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| Stskeeps | and british too? | 21:36 |
| lbt | me, never | 21:37 |
| lbt | good evening | 21:37 |
| Stskeeps | how was sauna? | 21:37 |
| * w00t_ bets lbt is typing with a bottle of vodka | 21:37 | |
| lbt | sauna was hot | 21:37 |
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| Jartza | we drink too much? | 21:37 |
| lbt | no , jaeger mister | 21:37 |
| w00t_ | hahah | 21:37 |
| Jartza | nah. it's never enough. | 21:37 |
| Jartza | :) | 21:37 |
| lbt | :P | 21:37 |
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| lbt | Jartza: much too much | 21:38 |
| Jartza | naah | 21:38 |
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| * lbt debates whether he's in any condition to setup OBS tonight.... | 21:39 | |
| w00t_ | oh dear | 21:39 |
| * lbt thinks probably not... | 21:39 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i've done my best bits of ircd code while drunk! | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:39 |
| Jartza | jägermeister... mm... | 21:39 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: here pig, here pig.. | 21:39 |
| Jartza | I think it translates as master hunter :) | 21:39 |
| lbt | thing is .. we shared a bottle between 2 of us | 21:40 |
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| Jartza | and you didn't get any? :D | 21:40 |
| * CosmoHill hands lbt some vodka | 21:40 | |
| lbt | CosmoHill: thanks.... need that :D | 21:40 |
| lbt | bloody finns | 21:40 |
| * mord chuckles | 21:40 | |
| lbt | and egyptiand | 21:40 |
| lbt | s | 21:40 |
| lbt | mord: you were supposed to help! | 21:41 |
| * lbt will make a note | 21:41 | |
| mord | lbt: you were supposed to tell me when the sauna event was taking place! :) | 21:41 |
| lbt | I told Marko | 21:41 |
| lbt | and your (rather nice BTW) bike was bacl | 21:41 |
| w00t_ | lbt: btw, friends don't let friends drunk OBS | 21:41 |
| lbt | k | 21:41 |
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| lbt | we wer ogling it at luch when we grabbed icecream | 21:42 |
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| lbt | you need to get more lean into those back tyres mord | 21:42 |
| mord | lbt: ty, i've grown rather fond of it in a hurry | 21:42 |
| lbt | the gsxr1300 behind you was almost catching up ;) | 21:43 |
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| mord | lbt: all sorts of stuff that needs to be done but the main thing is that the engine is awesome | 21:43 |
| lbt | heh ... maybe I'll drive over on my fzr one weel | 21:43 |
| lbt | k | 21:43 |
| lbt | goddam keyboard | 21:43 |
| mord | :) | 21:43 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 21:43 |
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| th0br0 | heya lbt | 21:46 |
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| lbt | hi th0br0 | 21:46 |
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| lbt | no complex questions | 21:46 |
| mord | ah bugger, rover's fscked again | 21:46 |
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| * lbt giggles | 21:46 | |
| CosmoHill | still standing? | 21:46 |
| lbt | nah | 21:47 |
| CosmoHill | the power of the poke | 21:47 |
| lbt | we're planning our talks for november | 21:47 |
| * lbt proposes "WTF does meego need ssse3?" | 21:48 | |
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| th0br0 | :D | 21:50 |
| th0br0 | +1 | 21:50 |
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| Stskeeps | 'an analysis of how many binaries actually contain ssse3'? | 21:51 |
| lbt | mmmm ....... 4 | 21:51 |
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| lcuk | an analysis of how much it matters | 21:51 |
| lbt | 75% performance gain .... ! | 21:52 |
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| lbt | <Coughj> | 21:52 |
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| lcuk | lbt, 75% on hardware that supports it | 21:52 |
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| lbt | true | 21:53 |
| lbt | slight issue on other hw... | 21:53 |
| lcuk | sure | 21:53 |
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| lbt | but maybe best discussed when sober :) | 21:53 |
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| lcuk | have fun \o | 21:53 |
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| mord | lbt: i gather you've seen http://adrinael.net/zcoco | 21:57 |
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| Stskeeps | mord: haha | 21:57 |
| * Stskeeps can relate ;) | 21:58 | |
| lbt | heh... I take it that was a failed attempt ;) | 21:58 |
| lcuk | mord, OBSv2 will be sketched out by morning ;) | 21:58 |
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| lbt | we had a great idea in the sauna.... but I can't quite recall the details... | 21:59 |
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| Stskeeps | many great ideas have gotten lost in the mists of alcohol | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:59 |
| krysis | anyone know where i can post ideas or concepts for meego? | 21:59 |
| lbt | www ? | 21:59 |
| lcuk | krysis, lbt's PM box | 21:59 |
| krysis | im guessing just a private message to him then? | 22:00 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, not quite everything :) i have been known to be blind drunk and still making notes | 22:00 |
| lcuk | krysis, I was joking - make a post on talk.meego.com | 22:00 |
| lbt | krysis: lcuk was attempyting humour.... | 22:01 |
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| krysis | oh o.o i don't quite come here often x) fail attempt btw :o | 22:01 |
| krysis | or at least went over my head | 22:01 |
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| lbt | feel free to talk though | 22:01 |
| lbt | lcuk is always fascinated | 22:01 |
| * lcuk nods | 22:02 | |
| krysis | lol i just got my acer one and put meego on it, simply love it =) | 22:02 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, it normally takes a single word to remember the whole convo | 22:02 |
| krysis | though i have one simple problem with it, i dont seem to see a way to control multiple windows in one zone apart from the alt-tab method, is this the only way? | 22:02 |
| lcuk | krysis, how would you expect multiple windows to operate | 22:03 |
| * mord is convinced way too many drunken ides do /not/ get lost | 22:03 | |
| * lcuk is used to alt-tab | 22:03 | |
| mord | ideas even | 22:03 |
| krysis | ah well i'll show you what i was thinking, let me just upload it to devart | 22:03 |
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| krysis | lcuk, http://krysis554.deviantart.com/art/Meego-Zone-Browser-Concept-174655427 | 22:06 |
| lbt | night all | 22:06 |
| krysis | its the third image at the bottom | 22:06 |
| krysis | gnight lbt | 22:06 |
| mord | nini lbt | 22:06 |
| krysis | I was thinking something like that? | 22:07 |
| lcuk | gnite lbt | 22:09 |
| lcuk | krysis, thats a reasonable principle | 22:09 |
| lcuk | not what I would personally use, but certainly different | 22:10 |
| lcuk | and reasonably logical | 22:10 |
| krysis | thank you =) just don't know how much it'll get in the way, but if it has a delay like the top panel i don't see it being intrusive | 22:10 |
| lcuk | (you mention right hand side btw, should be left) | 22:10 |
| krysis | i like alt-tab and everything, but i also like the ability to pick windows directly instead of going through them all | 22:11 |
| krysis | ah gotta change that | 22:11 |
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| lcuk | np, the principle should be left or right hand usable | 22:11 |
| krysis | so talk.meego.com then? | 22:11 |
| lcuk | some languages have rtl text and scrollbars on the left hand side | 22:12 |
| lcuk | sure | 22:12 |
| krysis | i figure left is better because most apps have a scrollbar at the right and can get in the way | 22:12 |
| krysis | ah ic | 22:12 |
| krysis | well that can be customizable depending on language then | 22:12 |
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| lcuk | yeah, implementation detail | 22:12 |
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| lcuk | nice idea though, deffo post it and see how others like it | 22:13 |
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| krysis | im just surprised it wasn't thought of yet :P | 22:13 |
| lcuk | it probably has or theres some huge clanger to using it | 22:13 |
| krysis | talk.meego.com is giving me a server not found :o | 22:13 |
| lcuk | but until its on screen nobody can try it | 22:13 |
| lcuk | hold on i mightv gotten wrong url | 22:14 |
| lcuk | forum.meego.com | 22:14 |
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| krysis | ah ok thanks | 22:14 |
| * lcuk has maemo in head | 22:14 | |
| krysis | ah right x) oh the progress :P | 22:14 |
| krysis | i still have a n800 | 22:14 |
| lcuk | cool, lots do | 22:14 |
| lcuk | windows has a sidebar similar I believe | 22:15 |
| lcuk | and you can move the main bar there if you drag it | 22:15 |
| krysis | you mean the main toolbar at the bottom? i guess it has a similar feel | 22:15 |
| lcuk | yeah, taskbar | 22:15 |
| lcuk | and it can be set to autohide | 22:16 |
| krysis | ah right, something of that sort, but instead of this bar being always there (hidden or not) it will only pop up when there are 2 or more windows in one zone, and when the mouse moves to the side | 22:16 |
| lcuk | but its funny when it resizes things | 22:16 |
| lcuk | i think as an overlay as you suggest it would be effective | 22:16 |
| lcuk | i would have it pop always | 22:17 |
| lcuk | that way user gets used to its effect - and could use to close | 22:17 |
| krysis | one thing i noticed is that the zones are kinda pointless if you can't control certain windows in one zone, when you do alt-tab it scrolls through ALL zones and zone windows, not just the current zone available, thats why i was wondering if there was a way to scroll or pick from only the current zones windows | 22:17 |
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| lcuk | well that is changing global system behaviour and users would be frustrated at not being able to get around even more than you might be about wanting to remain in one zone | 22:18 |
| lcuk | (modifying alt-tab itself i mean) | 22:19 |
| lcuk | krysis, once you post a new thread, put a link here please, I'll sub and watch it | 22:19 |
| krysis | well you can always keep alt-tab there as its been the traditional way of scrolling through open windows, but why not do shift+alt+tab or ctrl-alt-tab to scroll in one zone? | 22:19 |
| krysis | okays =) | 22:19 |
| lcuk | nicely presented too by the way :) | 22:20 |
| krysis | just gotta find out my password lol | 22:20 |
| krysis | thank you =) i been around the ubuntu community and designing stuff here and there | 22:20 |
| krysis | usually do icons and such, but figured i'd give this a go | 22:20 |
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| lcuk | no harm in trying :) | 22:20 |
| lcuk | i have to vanish \o have a nice evening | 22:20 |
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| krysis | thank you! have a nice vanishing :P | 22:21 |
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| Phazorx | . | 22:32 |
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| krysis | lcuk, heres the forum link: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=6859#post6859 | 22:37 |
| Phazorx | when deploying the image with dd can i somehow specify only one partition or it has to be whole drive? | 22:37 |
| Stskeeps | images are usually whole-disk | 22:38 |
| Phazorx | i need some files from windows so i can make extlinux boot win7, but meego comes w/o ntfs driver so i was hoping to use the same flash drive | 22:38 |
| Phazorx | and for that i am thinking to make another partition on same drive but none of utilities i have can actually do that properly | 22:38 |
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| Phazorx | any solutions for that case? | 22:40 |
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| koupsaa | evening' | 22:55 |
| Phazorx | hola | 22:56 |
| CosmoHill | mew | 22:59 |
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| Phazorx | apparently extlinux makes windows lack hibernation is that really the case? | 23:09 |
| thiago_home | what's extlinux? | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | Phazorx: no | 23:10 |
| Phazorx | CosmoHill: reading that on meego forums and what not | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | I can hibinate my windows install on my laptop | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | the next time I select "windows" from the boot loader it restores windows | 23:11 |
| Phazorx | CosmoHill: with which bootloader and what windows? | 23:11 |
| CosmoHill | Grub2 and Windows 7 | 23:11 |
| Phazorx | so how does that reflect my commet about extlinux? | 23:11 |
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| CosmoHill | boot loader should make no difference | 23:11 |
| CosmoHill | all it does is chainload the windows boot loader | 23:11 |
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| Phazorx | that's what i thought too | 23:11 |
| Phazorx | but reality bites | 23:12 |
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| CosmoHill | well tell her to stop | 23:12 |
| thiago_home | oh, the boot loader | 23:12 |
| thiago_home | yeah, I can't see how it can interfere with hibernating | 23:12 |
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