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| vgrade | After getting MeeGo up on my Poulsbo based O2 Joggler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwfVtHuhoI) have prepared a kickstart file for Poulsbo/GMA500 based netbooks. | 04:19 |
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| vgrade | I don't have one of these netbooks, but if you are interested in Meego please build an image and report back. (user vgrade on #meego) | 04:19 |
| vgrade | http://wiki.meego.com/Please_Test | 04:20 |
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| vgrade | night | 05:20 |
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| b0xy | Hey guys. Just got Meego installed on my Asus 900A and it boots fine with the USB drive plugged in (the installation media), but won't boot when it's not. I get a "unable to mount root fs on unknown" message. Any ideas? | 05:24 |
| b0xy | It's like it's installing to /dev/sdb and when I unplug the thumbdrive, it's still looking for the hard drive at sdb instead of sda | 05:24 |
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| ChildOfGod | I am trying to launch the people panel in the netbook ux from within another panel. I cant get it to work. Any pointers? | 08:19 |
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| niqt | hi | 10:22 |
| niqt | how i can install qt 4.7 im meego-sdk? | 10:22 |
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| fabo | niqt: you need access to MeeGo OBS | 10:40 |
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| frals | or add one of the daily builds as an update source? | 10:47 |
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| fabo | frals: where have you seen daily build of Qt 4.7 ? | 10:55 |
| fabo | if you talk about the pre-release, it shouldn't be used | 10:55 |
| fabo | at least beta2 should be used or the upcoming rc1 | 10:56 |
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| frals | yeah was the prerelease | 10:58 |
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| niqt | thus, i can't install it? | 11:05 |
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| vlj | hi | 11:20 |
| vlj | vgrade: it "almost" works but it's not that great =( | 11:20 |
| vlj | I only got xterm and xclock...in the best case | 11:21 |
| vlj | in the worst case I got endless X restart with flickering | 11:21 |
| vlj | I think it is related to xorg config... | 11:23 |
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| Stskeeps | vlj: get a Xorg.0.log please | 11:24 |
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| lcuk | morning #meego \o | 11:33 |
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| X-Fade | w00t_: You really should try stand up ;) | 12:06 |
| w00t_ | X-Fade: too lazy, sitting down is easier | 12:06 |
| w00t_ | (.. i'm here all week) | 12:06 |
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| X-Fade | Booo hiss. | 12:07 |
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| fabo | w00t_: do you recommend some git readings? links, etc... | 12:14 |
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| Khertan | fabo, git readings ? you mean a manual about git ? | 13:04 |
| fabo | Khertan: yes, except the regular doc, git tutorials. | 13:05 |
| Khertan | <lcuk> ShadowJK, add sdk and tools repo, apt-get install build-essential :P | 13:05 |
| Khertan | * MiskaX (~jussi@rankki.sonarnerd.net) a rejoint #maemo | 13:05 |
| fabo | woot gave me good advices in the past ;) | 13:05 |
| Khertan | oups ... wrong copy paste :) | 13:05 |
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| Khertan | fabo, the community git book is very good | 13:06 |
| Khertan | http://book.git-scm.com/ | 13:06 |
| Khertan | i learn using git with it ... (and there is many translation in many language) | 13:06 |
| fabo | ok, thanks. | 13:07 |
| Sage | Hi, anyone know if I can do .spec with spectacle where the master package does not contain %files section, i.e., only subpackages are created? | 13:07 |
| Sage | Or how to remove the requirement of "master" package from subpackages | 13:08 |
| fabo | Sage: NoFiles: yes | 13:09 |
| fabo | sigh, I give spectacle hints :( | 13:09 |
| lcuk | Khertan, i dont mind being pasted wrong occasionally. good morning | 13:10 |
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| Stskeeps | resistance is futile, You will be assimilated | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:10 |
| Khertan | good morning ... sorry for disturbing you :) | 13:10 |
| fabo | hehe :) | 13:10 |
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| Khertan | someone have already use the community obs to build package from a setup.py distutils script ? | 13:11 |
| fabo | Khertan: no, just qmake based packages so far | 13:12 |
| Khertan | i ve made a deb package from a dsc but not yet tested it | 13:12 |
| Khertan | and i ve try to use directly as a repository on my n900 but without luck ... due to folder name :) | 13:13 |
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| neosisani | can you tell me which is md5 sum of meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img ? | 14:41 |
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| ObKo | Hello! I trying to port meego to omap-based device. I have an old kernel (2.6.27) with old PowerVR driver, so I'm trying to run meego's X server using only FB device. I add http://pastebin.org/441056 to /etc/X11/xorg,conf.d/50-video-fbdev, but X server always try to load PowerVR driver (http://pastebin.org/441042). How to told X server not to load PowerVR module? | 14:42 |
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| Stskeeps | ObKo: what xorg fbdev driver is that? | 14:43 |
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| ObKo | It's a standart meego fbdev... | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | what image are you basing on? | 14:44 |
| ObKo | daily from n900 | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | give an url please | 14:45 |
| ObKo | hm, i build it, using this manual: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | could you do a rpm -q -a | grep fbdevb | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | could you do a rpm -q -a | grep fbdev | 14:46 |
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| ObKo | xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx-0.4.0-2.7.armv5tel | 14:47 |
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| ObKo | hm | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, you need to get regular fbdev | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | don't add the nokia closed repository in your .ks | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | when it's not for the n900 :) | 14:48 |
| ObKo | ok | 14:48 |
| ObKo | now repository packages are worked? | 14:48 |
| ObKo | *working | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | more interestingly | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | how did you get armv5tel fbdev-sgx? | 14:49 |
| ObKo | there was a problem at 29.07.10 with gcc | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | armv7 is still broken yes | 14:50 |
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| Stskeeps | OMAP2 or OMAP3, out of curiousity? | 14:53 |
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| ObKo | OMAP3430 | 14:55 |
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| Stskeeps | k | 14:56 |
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| Stskeeps | lo slaine | 15:05 |
| slaine | Hey Stskeeps | 15:05 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps, I missed vlj, did he send his X log? | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | no | 15:09 |
| slaine | working from home on a bank holiday monday is so hard | 15:10 |
| slaine | my kids are down stairs watching starwars and everything. | 15:10 |
| sivu | anyone have experience on running obs under debian? | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: laptop, watch starwars with them | 15:11 |
| slaine | that's not working though | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | it's not? | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:11 |
| slaine | I was actually doing that but ended up just watching the movie | 15:11 |
| slaine | so I came up to the bedroom | 15:11 |
| ObKo | Stskeeps: thanks a lot, now X work good, another question: is there tslib in meego? | 15:13 |
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| Stskeeps | ObKo: use evdev instead if you can | 15:13 |
| slaine | ObKo: I got my touchscreens working fine with evdev | 15:13 |
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| ObKo | I have a resistive touchscreen :( | 15:14 |
| ObKo | it needs a calibration... | 15:14 |
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| Stskeeps | still, that's possible in evdev | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | we do that in n900 i believe | 15:14 |
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| slaine | vgrade: nice work on the gma500 stuff | 15:15 |
| dm8tbr | ObKo: you got x working? | 15:15 |
| ObKo | Yes! | 15:15 |
| ObKo | more in #openpma | 15:15 |
| dm8tbr | great news! \o/ | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | ObKo: ah, you're one of the archos guys | 15:15 |
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| pundiramit | how much is uxlaunch/mcompositor dependent on SGX? I'm not able to run uxlaunch on devkit8000(omap3 clone). I'm having some issues with SGX as well. Is that may be the reason of uxlaunch failure? | 15:28 |
| pundiramit | If that is the case then can I launch mcompositor without SGX? | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/glestest | 15:30 |
| vgrade_ | slaine, what are you running Joggler or netbook? | 15:30 |
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| Stskeeps | get that working in xorg (chmod +x it) | 15:30 |
| slaine | neither, I just track the gma500 as it's interesting (some of our suppliers use it too, but we couldn't due to the drivers issue) | 15:31 |
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| vgrade_ | ok, I must admit I've had a lot of help from Stskeeps on this | 15:32 |
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| pundiramit | Stskeeps: was that 'glestest' for me to try? | 15:33 |
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| Stskeeps | pundiramit: yes | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | .cc is source | 15:34 |
| slaine | vgrade_: yeah, the joggle community :) | 15:34 |
| pundiramit | Stskeeps: its working fine here | 15:34 |
| vgrade_ | OBS bulding, repo creation, kickstart config all new to me | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | pundiramit: xorg started, export DISPLAY=:0; ./glestest ? | 15:35 |
| pundiramit | yes i did all that and made 'glestest' working | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | pundiramit: okay | 15:36 |
| pundiramit | at some ~44fps | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | pundiramit: what repo are you pulling from? | 15:36 |
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| pundiramit | Stskeeps: I pulled it from here http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/handset/repos/armv7l/packages/ | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | pundiramit: ok, not gonna work. dbus is hosed. use armv5rel | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | pundiramit: ok, not gonna work. dbus is hosed. use armv5tel | 15:39 |
| pundiramit | Stskeeps: also its a last month build.. I pulled it on 20100630 | 15:40 |
| pundiramit | Stskeeps: ok will try a new build today | 15:40 |
| pundiramit | from armv5tel | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:40 |
| ChildOfGod | I am trying to replace mutter on the netbook ux with my own compiled version, but it doesnt work. | 15:41 |
| ChildOfGod | The mutter i built is 2.3 MB whereas the mutter in the netbook ux is some 650 kb | 15:41 |
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| ChildOfGod | on running the emulator in the SDK it gives a white backgroung | 15:42 |
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| ChildOfGod | background* instead of the splash screen. | 15:42 |
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| ChildOfGod | how do i know how a particular binary was built? as in, with what args? i looked at the spec file in the src rpm as well. dint work. | 15:42 |
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| ObKo | Hello! Does anybody know how to convert deprecated touchscreen calibration data (/etc/pointercal) to new evdev parameters (minX maxX minY maxY)? | 16:35 |
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| ObKo | how to run GUI in software rendering mode? | 16:42 |
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| w00t_ | ObKo: export M_USE_SOFTWARE_RENDERING=1 if you're talking about handset | 16:45 |
| w00t_ | ObKo: mcompositor doesn't do software rendering, Stskeeps might be helpful for what to do to get around that | 16:45 |
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| ObKo | thanks | 16:46 |
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| blino | hi fcrozat \o/ | 17:26 |
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| jackherer | hello | 17:27 |
| jackherer | I would like to compile meego handset day1 for my cortex-a8 based device | 17:28 |
| jackherer | can somebody point me in the right direction ? | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: omap3? | 17:28 |
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| jackherer | Stskeeps: something like that yes | 17:29 |
| jackherer | I am wondering if it is possible to use the normal SDK | 17:29 |
| jackherer | I can't find the developer bit in the day1 area | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | start with the open n900 image, make it boot to console | 17:29 |
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| Stskeeps | then you need to get gles2 working | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | (3d accel) | 17:29 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: a) it wants me to enter my n900 imei (I don't want tio cope with licensing bs) b) I want to compile it on my computer. | 17:30 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: opengl is impossible on my device. | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: even opengl es? | 17:30 |
| jackherer | no hardware accerlation. | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | thats an odd cortex a8 | 17:30 |
| thiago | omap3 have HW acceleration | 17:31 |
| thiago | but the drivers aren't free | 17:31 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: meego handset does not work without opengl ? | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: ok, first off, you will want to use the already compiled rpms, not rebuild manually | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: open n900 images doesnt require imei, they are on repo.meego.com | 17:32 |
| thiago | jackherer: no, opengl is required for MeeGo in any version | 17:32 |
| jackherer | that sucks big time | 17:32 |
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| Stskeeps | jackherer: you can construct your own image using mic2 and a kickstart file | 17:32 |
| jackherer | then I can forget it on my plat | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: software rendering exists but is bloody slow and buggy. | 17:33 |
| X-Fade | Software rendering might work, it is just a lot slower. | 17:33 |
| jackherer | a real pity | 17:33 |
| jackherer | I have a fast ass machine :D | 17:33 |
| thiago | you have a fast OMAP3 without HW acceleration? | 17:33 |
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| Stskeeps | jackherer: could you reveal what SoC it is? | 17:34 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: what is mic2 ? | 17:34 |
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| Stskeeps | jackherer: image creator | 17:34 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: ok I would prefer that over the non legit download of n900 specific image then | 17:34 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: do you have some URI | 17:34 |
| thiago | or are you trying on a non-OMAP3 Cortex-A8? | 17:34 |
| lcuk | is meego resolution independent now? will it happily build/run on something with less than 800*480? | 17:34 |
| lcuk | ie, if there was some other devices around which were otherwise capable | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.11.20100720.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/ | 17:35 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: I prefer trying stuff out first. when I get it working I make small writeup how I got it running on the device etc. for now it is a cortex-a8 based device .. | 17:36 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: ok that looks better than 'please enter imei here' | 17:36 |
| thiago | that's "please enter IMEI on IRC" :-P | 17:37 |
| thiago | j/k | 17:37 |
| X-Fade | jackherer: If you look closely at that imei url, you'll notice that that is not meego. | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: this image requires you to put in your own /usr/lib/libEGL.so and /usr/libGLESv2.so, ui wont work without | 17:37 |
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| jackherer | Stskeeps: ok I need an image that allows for software rendering | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: wait some weeks then for newer libmeegotouch to get merged. | 17:38 |
| peb_ | jackherer: If you have something I can test, give it to me. I'm looking for a (detailed/easy) way to get meego on my N900 (as trial) | 17:38 |
| X-Fade | peb_: That is already on the wiki? | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | peb_: we are doing automated weekly releases starting this week. | 17:39 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: there is no way in hell I can get software rendering meego image now ? | 17:39 |
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| peb_ | OStskeeps: OK, then I'll check (the wiki again) ... goofed on that, and try it this night. Daily builds sounds .. challenging in case of testing :-) | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | peb_: weekly | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:40 |
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| peb_ | Stskeeps: sorry .. weekly is really fine. Flash on the weekend, test during the week ... | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: there is a way but it is ugly and i am on a mobile keyboard. | 17:41 |
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| jackherer | Stskeeps: ok how about we sort it at different point ? | 17:42 |
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| jackherer | Stskeeps: would appreaciate it a lot | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: wait some weeks for a updated libmeegotouch | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | best advice i can give | 17:42 |
| jackherer | I prefer trying out the ugly hack | 17:43 |
| ObKo | Does meego go sleep every 5-10 min, or it's my hardware bug? | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | jackherer: try to boot the open image first and come back afterwards. | 17:45 |
| jackherer | Stskeeps: ok let's see. thanks | 17:45 |
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| thiago | probably got the SoC from someone or some company without the license for the GLES driver | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | not impossible | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | i would vote ipad | 17:47 |
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| thiago | that's not an A8 | 17:47 |
| thiago | the iPad has an Apple A4 processor | 17:48 |
| X-Fade | It is. | 17:48 |
| tmzt | thiago: hah | 17:48 |
| X-Fade | Which is a A8. | 17:48 |
| tmzt | thiago: yeah, it's a cortex A8 core | 17:48 |
| thiago | A4 is the SoC then? | 17:48 |
| * thiago is confused | 17:48 | |
| tmzt | thiago: Apple doesn't have a processor | 17:48 |
| tmzt | thiago: they have a Samsung designed chip they sell as the A4 | 17:48 |
| thiago | A8 with SGX 535... | 17:49 |
| thiago | it's like an OMAP3 but it's not from TI | 17:49 |
| leinir | tmzt: Which, of course, is just short for Apple M4GIC! ;) | 17:49 |
| leinir | (sorry, that exclamation mark should have been !!111eleventyone ;) ) | 17:50 |
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| GAN900 | tmzt, they have their own design and manufacturing house. | 18:03 |
| GAN900 | tmzt, PA Semi | 18:03 |
| tmzt | GAN900: they do, but that doesn't mean the where there in much force for the A4 chip in the iPad | 18:03 |
| tmzt | they will likely be in future | 18:04 |
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| tmzt | they also have another design team I think for a company acquired earlier | 18:04 |
| tmzt | and teardowns have shown the chip to be basically the same as earlier Apple-branded Samsung processors | 18:04 |
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| TSCHAKeee | which samsung core is the A4 based on? | 18:05 |
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| tmzt | TSCHAKeee: as far as memory map layout I don't know, I would guess similar to iPhone 3gs | 18:26 |
| tmzt | if you look into iphonelinux for 4g or iPad (if they exist yet) that might tell you | 18:27 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: welcome back from vacation! | 18:33 |
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| thiago | tmzt: 3GS is an OMAP3430, so it's easy :-) | 18:34 |
| tmzt | not it's not | 18:35 |
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| tmzt | that's misinformation | 18:35 |
| tmzt | it's a samsung | 18:35 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: Thanks! I feel relaxed & refreshed :) | 18:36 |
| * thiago goes by what's on wikipedia | 18:36 | |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: Also, it's metrics time again whenever you get a chance to run the IRC metrics (no hurry). | 18:36 |
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| tmzt | thiago: where? | 18:37 |
| tmzt | thiago: there were early reports that it's TI but they are wrong | 18:37 |
| tmzt | later tear downs proved it | 18:37 |
| thiago | I'm sure I found it on wikipedia, but I can't find it anymore | 18:37 |
| thiago | probably been corrected since I last found it | 18:37 |
| DawnFoster | On another note, a quick reminder before all of the Europeans check out for the day: We have a community office meeting at 05:00 UTC tomorrow morning http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings#Next_CO_meeting | 18:37 |
| microlith | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_3Gs#Models | 18:38 |
| DawnFoster | that's tonight at 10pm for those of us here on the west coast of the US | 18:38 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: will do when i have a moment tonight | 18:46 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: cool - I probably won't get to the metrics until later this week, so no rush | 18:47 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: thanks! | 18:47 |
| Annagul | Hello | 18:47 |
| b-man_ | Stskeeps: out of curiosity, how does meego get battery status on the n900? does it talk to bme? | 18:48 |
| threezero | b-man_, through contextkit which talks to bme | 18:48 |
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| b-man_ | ah | 18:48 |
| b-man_ | thanks threezero | 18:48 |
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| Annagul | I have an issue with my Wifi networks. There is no wifi networks available in the connman tab | 18:49 |
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| b-man_ | threezero: i'm assuming that the context interface for bme is closed? | 18:50 |
| Annagul | Where do I can start to look? | 18:50 |
| threezero | b-man_, yeah | 18:50 |
| b-man_ | gah | 18:50 |
| slaine | Annagul: what wifi card do you have ? | 18:50 |
| threezero | b-man_, the interface to contextkit isn't closed though | 18:51 |
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| threezero | so you *can* get battery status from contextkit | 18:51 |
| Annagul | slaine: atheros AR242x | 18:51 |
| b-man_ | oh, ok :) | 18:51 |
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| Annagul | slaine: acer aspire one zg5 | 18:52 |
| Annagul | module (loaded) ath5k | 18:52 |
| Annagul | I have searched in the -dev mailing list, but nobody has that problem | 18:53 |
| slaine | yeah, would have thought it would just work | 18:53 |
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| slaine | Annagul: does ifconfig from a console, show the device ? | 18:54 |
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| Annagul | slaine: yes | 18:54 |
| Annagul | ups, wait, no | 18:55 |
| Annagul | I can see the device with a iwconfig | 18:55 |
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| Annagul | with a "ifconfig wlan0 up" I received "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132" | 18:56 |
| slaine | Annagul: don't know much connman really. Perhaps #connman might offer better help in diagnosing | 18:57 |
| slaine | (my broadcom is eth1, not wlan0) | 18:57 |
| Annagul | ok, I will try in #connman | 18:57 |
| Annagul | thank you, anyway | 18:58 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.july.html | 19:54 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: Great, thanks! | 19:58 |
| * CosmoHill offers DawnFoster a cup of tea | 19:59 | |
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| w00t_ | Stskeeps: hah @ the 30th | 19:59 |
| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: We I've been working since 6am (10am now) and I just made my 3rd pot of green tea :) | 20:00 |
| CosmoHill | there's a 6am? | 20:01 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.dev.july.html (#meego-dev, a latecomer) and http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.arm.july.html (#meego-arm) | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | very obvious when it's weekend there.. | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:03 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: that data (for #meego) shows that me being at uni has an affect :) | 20:03 |
| CosmoHill | Since you're not top :p | 20:03 |
| CosmoHill | Most uses words almost makes a sentence | 20:04 |
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| Stskeeps | i think it's very saying that the top# 13 word on #meego-arm is connman | 20:06 |
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| CosmoHill | what's connman? | 20:07 |
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| w00t_ | CosmoHill: depending on who you ask, a connection manager, or annoying | 20:09 |
| w00t_ | :-P | 20:09 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 20:10 |
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| CosmoHill | Does Arjan from this channel do PowerTop? | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | think so | 20:12 |
| w00t_ | ^ | 20:12 |
| w00t_ | pretty sure that is the case, yes | 20:12 |
| CosmoHill | we need to get him some cookies | 20:12 |
| CosmoHill | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ2OQ | 20:12 |
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| thiago | CosmoHill: yes, that's him | 20:13 |
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| CosmoHill | (I show my appreciation by give people cyber cookies or hugs) | 20:13 |
| thiago | which reminds me I need to upgrade my powertop | 20:13 |
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| CosmoHill | It's nice to read an article and go "hey, I know him!" | 20:14 |
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| CosmoHill | why does the powertop that came out today say Copyright Intel 2007? | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | i never understood the range part of copyrights | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | is it like 'earliest code is from X and latest is from Y'? | 20:16 |
| thiago | probably forgot to update | 20:17 |
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| CosmoHill | doesn't work on my server | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 20:22 |
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| CosmoHill | requires the kernel to be reconfigured :) | 20:22 |
| thiago | doesn't really matter on servers... | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | hush you | 20:23 |
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| GAN900 | Stskeeps, usually. | 20:27 |
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| Stskeeps | gitorious's merge requests kinda suck compared to launchpad ability, heh | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of manual work instead of a nice button to 'yes, merge this' | 20:33 |
| thiago | yeah, we know | 20:34 |
| mikhas | the worst part being that everyone complains about missing gitorious features (or lame MR's) but what does the gitorious crew focus on? making it more "shiny" | 20:34 |
| mikhas | perhaps it's time to ditch gitorious and move back to github | 20:34 |
| thiago | it's not "back" since it was never in github | 20:35 |
| thiago | and the gitorious crew is being paid to work on our features | 20:36 |
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| thiago | so they're not working on shiny, they're working on what we ask them to | 20:37 |
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| Stskeeps | i swear, not having that one button adds at least 15 mins of work per merge :P | 20:37 |
| * CosmoHill noms pizza | 20:37 | |
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| mikhas | Stskeeps, if only | 20:40 |
| mikhas | you need to keep your MR's up-to-date sometimes | 20:41 |
| mikhas | no fancy github repo tracking | 20:41 |
| mikhas | err, fork tracking, I mean | 20:41 |
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| thiago | for Qt, we don't want a "Merge this" button | 20:43 |
| thiago | merging requires Legal check, build test and regression check | 20:44 |
| thiago | Gitorious can't do that | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | a scriptable gitorious would be nice | 20:44 |
| mikhas | thiago, you could simply have two repos | 20:45 |
| mikhas | and one project alone should not defer the productivity of all others | 20:45 |
| thiago | no, but the point is that we're paying them to do other features first | 20:46 |
| thiago | we're not paying them for a feature we don't need | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: well, you could technically throw a bot at the merge request branch and test it | 20:46 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: waste of CPU cycles. It needs to be tested as it's integrated. | 20:46 |
| mikhas | that's why moving away from gitorious might be a good option | 20:46 |
| mikhas | it'll take ages until they come around implementing stuff normal users want | 20:46 |
| mikhas | you block them =p | 20:47 |
| thiago | like line-by-line reviewing? | 20:47 |
| thiago | like fine-grained notifications? | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | i'd just go for notifications in general | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:47 |
| mikhas | or I just go to github, which had useful notifcations from the beginning | 20:47 |
| thiago | there are notifications already | 20:47 |
| thiago | it's just too much noise | 20:47 |
| thiago | mikhas: well, someone implemented the notifications at one point | 20:47 |
| thiago | I still prefer Gitorious because it's open source | 20:48 |
| mikhas | all I am saying is that gitorious does not seem to move fast enough. if someone is even paying money (to make them move faster or slower? =D), and things still dont improve ... | 20:48 |
| thiago | that is true | 20:49 |
| thiago | the company behind gitorious is much smaller than the one behind github | 20:49 |
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| Stskeeps | works for me? | 21:05 |
| auke | ok, I didn't check today yet | 21:05 |
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| wesbluemarine | is it possible to have meego on a pc with an nvidia ion? | 22:40 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 22:41 |
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| wesbluemarine | :( | 22:42 |
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| CosmoHill | Meego doesn't support Nvidia yet | 22:43 |
| wesbluemarine | :( | 22:44 |
| wesbluemarine | but | 22:45 |
| wesbluemarine | meego has fedora packages right? | 22:45 |
| auke | no | 22:45 |
| thiago | no | 22:45 |
| auke | no no no | 22:45 |
| wesbluemarine | :\ | 22:45 |
| auke | meego has rpm's | 22:45 |
| thiago | MeeGo has MeeGo packages | 22:45 |
| auke | meego rpms | 22:45 |
| wesbluemarine | ah ok | 22:45 |
| wesbluemarine | ok ok i 've understood | 22:45 |
| auke | repeat after me: MeeGo is not a Fedora derivative | 22:45 |
| wesbluemarine | :D | 22:45 |
| thiago | MeeGo is not a Fedora derivative | 22:46 |
| thiago | :-) | 22:46 |
| wesbluemarine | i want a nice tablet with meegi | 22:46 |
| auke | thiago: w00t | 22:46 |
| auke | wesbluemarine: me too | 22:46 |
| lbt | is 0.6.1 < 0.6.1-proposed1 < 0.6.2 (deb) and 0.6.1 < 0.6.2.proposed1 < 0.6.2 (rpm) | 22:46 |
| auke | the closest thing you can get right now is something like the lenovo s10-3t | 22:46 |
| auke | lbt: I'd think that 0.6.1-proposed1 < 0.6.1 | 22:47 |
| lbt | in deb? | 22:47 |
| auke | but, not sure how (deb) does that | 22:47 |
| auke | no idea | 22:47 |
| lbt | I'm trying to package some libs for suse and debian... | 22:47 |
| lbt | we need to sort this for the tools which we need to distribute | 22:48 |
| lbt | ah well | 22:48 |
| * lbt goes to play with something easy like Xen | 22:48 | |
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| UlfHofemeier | Hi | 23:03 |
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| lcuk | quim seems to be having a bit of an uphill struggle getting meego on his netbook :( http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=6389#post6389 | 23:17 |
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| vgrade | http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/02/nokias-treatment-of-meego-smartphone-ui-revealed/ | 23:49 |
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| threezero | vgrade, wow, looks good | 23:55 |
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| lcuk | i asked earlier, is there a minimum resolution for meego - or will the user be able to choose a lower resolution (but faster..) screen/device to have it installed on? | 23:56 |
| threezero | see, this is why i think we need sep chans for the verticals | 23:57 |
| lcuk | hmm? | 23:57 |
| threezero | i don't know how to answer this question because I don't know if you are referring to handset, netbook, x, y or z | 23:57 |
| threezero | ;) | 23:57 |
| lcuk | any | 23:58 |
| lcuk | all | 23:58 |
| lcuk | doesnt matter | 23:58 |
| threezero | sure it does | 23:58 |
| lcuk | lower the resolution, improve the performance | 23:58 |
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| lcuk | theres been talk from the start that meego will not run in software emulated 3d | 23:58 |
| lcuk | but there has to be a breakpoint | 23:58 |
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| lcuk | works for atom or arm or any cpu | 23:59 |
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