| gert_ | I wonder if it will be as bad in the EU | 00:00 |
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| AstralStorm | the patents? nah, they're granted a bit smarter | 00:00 |
| AstralStorm | there are more crosschecks too | 00:00 |
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| gert_ | I found quite a few hits for the impedance-thingy when i found it was called an attenuator somewhere btw. | 00:10 |
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| gert_ | But now I must sleep, and maybe continue my search for a useless tablet tomorrow. :P | 00:11 |
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| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 00:27 |
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| mndar | is the meego user interface we see, a window manager or just an application written using Clutter/Mx ? | 00:45 |
| bpeel | mndar: on the netbook ? | 00:46 |
| mndar | yes | 00:46 |
| bpeel | the user interface includes a window manager and some applications that get embedded in the panel | 00:46 |
| mndar | so the panel and the floating 'widgets' are written in/using Gtk? Clutter/Mx ? | 00:47 |
| bpeel | yes | 00:47 |
| bpeel | also the window manager uses clutter to do the compositing | 00:48 |
| mndar | is gtk used anywhere? | 00:49 |
| auke | not in the main UX | 00:50 |
| auke | there are some legacy gtk applications, but they're not part of the meego netbook UX | 00:50 |
| w00t_ | r | 00:50 |
| w00t_ | oops | 00:50 |
| lynxis | n900@meego : searching for a solution. i ran into problems, because the kernel does not recognize the sdcard. just the mmc card. changing the rootpart to mmcblk1p1 does not help. | 00:52 |
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| mndar | bpeel, auke: thanks | 00:54 |
| auke | lynxis: you might have problems with the mmc driver being async. try booting with 'rootwait' on the kernel cmdline | 00:55 |
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| lynxis | auke: using root=/dev/mmcblk1p1 rootwait its waiting for mmcblk1p . but found only 32gig, not the external sd. | 01:02 |
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| tmzt | maybe try /dev/mmcblk0p1? | 01:03 |
| lynxis | now it work. as long the cover is removed, it wont access mmc0 (sdcard) and is using mmc1 (32gig) for mmcblk0 | 01:03 |
| lynxis | thank auke | 01:03 |
| lynxis | thank you auke | 01:03 |
| auke | glad that works! | 01:03 |
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| lynxis | does somebody got a serial cable for n900 ? search for a place to buy or a howto to build | 01:05 |
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| odin_ | serial ? you want to debug the n900 (like kernel) or you want to configure your router from n900 ? | 01:06 |
| auke | it's a standard micro-B cable | 01:06 |
| auke | micro-b usb cable, that is | 01:06 |
| odin_ | ls -l | 01:07 |
| auke | bin etc sbin tmp | 01:07 |
| lynxis | i want to debug the kernel. thought under the battery there were jtag & serial | 01:07 |
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| auke | ah | 01:08 |
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| odin_ | yes I think there is some kind of serial for that but the recipe maybe top secret | 01:08 |
| auke | I suppose you can get a usb<->serial converter and use that | 01:09 |
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| auke | but you'd have to get your n900 kernel to support that as console for debugging | 01:09 |
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| auke | but, I'm not an n900 expert | 01:11 |
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| lynxis | i will use a oszi for it. do you have seen this ? http://mohammadag.ucoz.com/Nokia_N900_RX-51_Schematics.pdf | 01:16 |
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| xota | hi guys! I'm testing meego 1 in a HP 5101. I've tested this: http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.0_Wifi.html to get the wifi card work, and it works but it can't associate to my AP (with WEP key) | 01:56 |
| xota | I'm trying to install ndiswrapper (I used this in another distros), but I can't find it to meego, any help please? | 01:56 |
| slaine | I'm not sure WEP is supported by connman | 01:57 |
| slaine | don't think it has anything to do with the drivers as installed as they're broadcoms | 01:58 |
| xota | WEP is the simplest key... are you sure? | 01:58 |
| xota | go try ok? | 01:58 |
| xota | I will disconnect and then show you the result | 01:58 |
| slaine | I'm off to bed now I'm afraid | 01:58 |
| slaine | I've to catch a flight in 5 hours | 01:58 |
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| xota | ok, nevermind, I will test it anyway. thanks for the info | 01:59 |
| slaine | I used to use WEP on Moblin 2.1 with the same drivers actually | 02:00 |
| slaine | but I moved over to WPA once the laptop that was stuck on WEP eventually died | 02:00 |
| slaine | There is also a #connman channel | 02:00 |
| auke | WEP and WPA(2) are supported by connman | 02:01 |
| slaine | they might have some more details on how to debug your connection | 02:01 |
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| auke | there seem to be problems with access points that don't broadcast their SSID | 02:01 |
| xota | it's strange because it appears to work perfectly | 02:01 |
| auke | i.e. hidden SSID's | 02:01 |
| xota | auke: it's showed | 02:01 |
| auke | ok | 02:01 |
| xota | it have a space in the name, could be the problem? | 02:02 |
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| xota | has* | 02:02 |
| slaine | sorry I can't hang around I'm afraid, sorry | 02:02 |
| xota | no problem slaine, good flight! | 02:02 |
| auke | shouldn't. but try to change the key to one without a space :) | 02:02 |
| slaine | laters | 02:02 |
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| auke | xota: if that works, I suggest you file a connman bug :) | 02:02 |
| xota | no auke, the key is without spaces | 02:02 |
| xota | the ssid have a space | 02:02 |
| xota | go try to change it | 02:03 |
| auke | ah | 02:03 |
| auke | please do | 02:03 |
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| xota | hi! no luck with the test, I open the wifi (no-key) and change the ssid to one withou spaces but it still unassociated | 02:13 |
| xota | anybody can say me the name that the nick that was talking with me before disconnect? I don't have history in irssi | 02:16 |
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| Thordasin | Hi, i'm blind and and i'm trying to get my n900 to talk, i don't mind useing something broken for now to develop on and my question is, does meego have text consoles active with a frame buffer? In other words could i get a kernel module for speakup working on the meego 1.0 or 1.08 prefereable the 1.0 without the xwindows stuff added. | 05:22 |
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| GAN900 | Thordasin, I can't speak directly to experience with it. | 06:10 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, but MeeGo should be much easier to make work for your purposes than Maemo. | 06:11 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, although I suspect things are a bit early yet for the N900 hardware support to really make it useful. | 06:11 |
| Thordasin | thanks for the input, really as i understand it the screen, keyboard and wireless are working, is this correct? | 06:13 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, wireless is sort of working. | 06:14 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, cellular and GPS are not. | 06:14 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, I'd recommend emailing the MeeGo-dev list and/or asking your question during European/US working hours. | 06:15 |
| Thordasin | *chuckle* whats does sorta working men :) can i get an ssh session going? | 06:15 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, as there will be more people with direct knowledge on then. | 06:15 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, bugs that cause connection flakiness | 06:16 |
| Thordasin | i sure will, do you know how far they are ahead of us? | 06:16 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, Finnland. | 06:16 |
| GAN900 | Which is +2 UTC | 06:16 |
| GAN900 | s/Finnland/Finland/ | 06:17 |
| Thordasin | i never was good with time i'm in −6 utc so they are 8 ahead or behind? | 06:17 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, the Intel team is mosly in Washington. | 06:18 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, ahead. | 06:18 |
| GAN900 | 5:18 or so there now. | 06:18 |
| Thordasin | ONE LAST QUEST AND I'LL LEAVE YOU BE :) I NOTICE THE IMAGE BUILDER USES RPM'S ARE THEY USEING A FEDORA PORT? | 06:19 |
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| GAN900 | Thordasin, no, MeeGo's its own upstream. | 06:19 |
| GAN900 | It's not based on any other distro | 06:19 |
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| GAN900 | (although it shares some traits with some, including Fedora) | 06:20 |
| Thordasin | SO EVERYTHING WILL HAVE TO BE PORTED NEW, YOU CAN'T USE ANY OF THE ARMEL STUFF FROM FEDORA RIGHT? | 06:20 |
| swc|666 | I CAN'T HEAR YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK UP PLZ? | 06:21 |
| GAN900 | Porting workload shouldn't be overwhelming. | 06:21 |
| Thordasin | i asume my caps lock was stuck?? i'm blind and didn't notice *smile* | 06:21 |
| GAN900 | swc|666, presumably he can't see. . . . | 06:21 |
| GAN900 | Yeah. :P | 06:21 |
| swc|666 | lol | 06:22 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, I don't believe it'll be more worse than porting from Debian to Ubuntu or Debian to Maemo. | 06:22 |
| GAN900 | Although my expertise in this area is quite limited. | 06:22 |
| * GAN900 is a community guy | 06:23 | |
| swc|666 | is meego using busybox or no? | 06:23 |
| Thordasin | well i really appreciate you takeing the time to give me this info, i'll try and get up early tommorrow and catch the developers :) | 06:23 |
| GAN900 | Thordasin, no problem. And good luck. :) | 06:23 |
| GAN900 | Personally I find the idea of a blind-accessible smartphone badass. | 06:24 |
| GAN900 | swc|666, I think it depends on the UX. | 06:24 |
| Thordasin | thanks, i'll give you a shout on here and tell you how i've done if i make any progress :) | 06:25 |
| Thordasin | there actually are a couple of them now the iphone has voice over buil-in and the android phones come with talkback built-in | 06:26 |
| GAN900 | Yes, but one that's not evil and/or closed. :P | 06:27 |
| Thordasin | and of course there are screen readers you can purchase for windows mobile symbian and black berries | 06:27 |
| Thordasin | true thats why i want to start with meego from the ground up to try and get something we can make free and open. | 06:28 |
| Thordasin | heck i'd be thrilled just to have text consoles with speakup on my n900 so i can have a pocket linux :) | 06:29 |
| Thordasin | well g-night guys i'm gonna crash so i can get up early and hit this channel again :) | 06:30 |
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| Myrtti | örrörörörör | 07:31 |
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| Stskeeps | morning Myrtti | 07:59 |
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| Stskeeps | Thordasin: i'd look into the capabilities of Qt - at least http://qt.nokia.com/about/news/archive/00000176/ discusses this topic. handset UX is built upon qt and libmeegotouch so maybe it can be modded sufficiently | 08:06 |
| RST38h | heya Sts, Myrtti | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | morn RST38h | 08:06 |
| RST38h | Sts: My prayers have been answered: Grilo plugin for MAFW lets you brwse the file system for music, finally =) | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 08:07 |
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| embedded | Hi all! | 08:09 |
| Thordasin | stskeeps, thanks much i will read that right away. do you know if meego boots into a text console now? | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | Thordasin: well, depending on device and .ks | 08:11 |
| Thordasin | well what i have is an n900 and i'd love to get it to boot into a text console with the speakup module added to the kernel. | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | Thordasin: for nokia n900 we're booting into UX but it's a one-liner to get it booting into a prompt instead | 08:12 |
| embedded | may I make a question relating the Maemo OS since in the proper channel nobody can reply to it? | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | embedded: kinda off topic here | 08:12 |
| Termana | embedded, everyone here is most likely in the Maemo channel, except for the moblin and Intel people | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | Thordasin: how hacker-ish are you? | 08:13 |
| Thordasin | i thought i was pretty good until i tried to get orca running in maemo :) | 08:14 |
| embedded | I know, but since nobody can help me in that channel I went here to get help | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | what backend does speakup use? ALSA? | 08:15 |
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| Stskeeps | (for sound) | 08:15 |
| hariprajan | hello | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 08:16 |
| hariprajan | I trying to install openvg in meego | 08:16 |
| slonopotamus | Thordasin: making _anything_ running in maemo is a challenge (without clear feel of satisfaction) | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | hariprajan: what platform? X86, ARM? | 08:16 |
| hariprajan | Shivavg insalled and it's working fine | 08:16 |
| hariprajan | x86 | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | Thordasin: are you by chance capable of getting a fedora vm or the likes? the tools for making boot images are rather fedora-specific | 08:17 |
| Thordasin | yes it uses alsa | 08:17 |
| Thordasin | well actually i take that back, speakup can use hardware synth on the serial ports or it can use speech dispatcher, which i believe can use alsa or pulse | 08:18 |
| hariprajan | my issue is which implementation of openvg does meego support? | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | hariprajan: that's a good question - worth sending to meego-dev@meego.com i beleive | 08:18 |
| hariprajan | thanks your help | 08:18 |
| hariprajan | I am doing meego testing | 08:18 |
| Thordasin | yes, i've read the instuctions and have found a speak modiefed fedora 13 | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | Thordasin: do you know which kernel config options have to be enabled for speakup? | 08:19 |
| hariprajan | thanks your help , I will send a mail to them | 08:19 |
| hariprajan | I found that meego repositery having Openvg libraries and it is missing now | 08:20 |
| Thordasin | stskeeps, no i'm not usre which ones are required, i haven't built a kernel in gosh 6 years now i used to do it very often, i've been useing linux sin 1993 | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | Thordasin: feel free to join #meego-arm , which is where people sit who port things to ARM and specifically, the n900 port development team sits there | 08:21 |
| Thordasin | cool be right there | 08:22 |
| hariprajan | I have another issue in meego , I can't play audio cd in meego , and it is not detecting "NTFS" file system, after installing NTFS-3G files , it works fine | 08:22 |
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| Stskeeps | Thordasin: but i think your use case is entirely possible. my initial worry is that some things might require some kind of x server connection, not so much for ui, but for dbus communication etc | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | do you know of any things like xterm with speakup, as that might be easier to accomplish? | 08:23 |
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| hariprajan | hi | 08:27 |
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| qxyz | Hi guys | 09:12 |
| qxyz | Is repo.meego.com down ? | 09:12 |
| qxyz | I was busy upgrading from there and now I can't seem to connect to it again | 09:12 |
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| ChildOfGod | I downloaded the meego SDK as mentioned in http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux but I see most of the panel related packages names as moblin-panel-* inside it. Should it not be meego-panel-* instead? | 09:16 |
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| ChildOfGod | What is penge? | 09:29 |
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| FunkyPenguin | um is there something up with repo.meego.com? i cant get to it for some reason | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, same problem here | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | there's mirrors at kernel.org or something | 10:18 |
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| fabo | how submit request are reviewed ? in submit order ? | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | i guess, unless a certain order is asked - obs will sort things out normally | 10:51 |
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| fabo | my sr is still pending | 10:52 |
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| heliocastro | mornning | 11:26 |
| heliocastro | Someone is using meego-sdk with fedora 13 ? | 11:27 |
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| ChildOfGod | Where can I find some sample code that uses mx? | 11:37 |
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| lbt | fabo: #ping | 11:45 |
| fabo | lbt: pong | 11:47 |
| lbt | I've upped the OBS community worker size and triggered a Qt rebuild | 11:48 |
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| lbt | FYI... when it finishes the xen chroot writes the packages to swap to pass them back to the host... | 11:48 |
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| lbt | it was running out of swap space | 11:49 |
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| fabo | lbt: does it means you should increase swap size ? | 11:50 |
| lbt | yes.. done it | 11:50 |
| lbt | for i in /dev/OBS/worker_swap*; do lvextend -L 2G $i; done | 11:50 |
| * lbt loves lvm | 11:50 | |
| Stskeeps | how many terabyte are we up at in potential space now? :P | 11:50 |
| lbt | heh... we have a miserly 400Gb | 11:51 |
| fabo | well, Qt is one of the bigger beast .oO(until you intend to build openoffice.org) ;) | 11:51 |
| lbt | and ?chrome | 11:51 |
| fabo | how much does it take chrome ? | 11:51 |
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| lbt | dunno - apparently it is one of the 400Mb src tarball ones | 11:52 |
| lbt | it's the reason we can't have remote builds against meego.com from the community OBS :( | 11:53 |
| fabo | dunno how it is built, but using system libs instead embedded copy should reduce the size | 11:53 |
| lcuk | lbt has this obs got the tricks and speedups you started for doing the qt builds when first discussing obs a few months ago? | 11:53 |
| lcuk | i recall qt was a big lump of an all day build | 11:54 |
| lbt | lcuk: not quite yet | 11:54 |
| lbt | they're on the meego.com OBS | 11:54 |
| lbt | and we need to redo them for Fremantle and Harmattan | 11:54 |
| fabo | => Build needed 01:32:49, 6416504k disc space | 11:54 |
| lcuk | fabo, thats a bit excessive for helloworld :p | 11:55 |
| fabo | it's chrome ;) | 11:55 |
| lbt | big font | 11:55 |
| lcuk | ok then Html>helloworld</html> :p | 11:55 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:56 |
| lbt | I'm thinking we need to find a way to do an x86 build of MeeGo now... | 11:56 |
| lbt | who's in? | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | edit glibc spec, gcc and click 'rebuild'? | 11:56 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yeah... but its the feed and watering | 11:57 |
| tmzt | handset ux? | 11:57 |
| lbt | and setting up project structures | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: 'best' thing would be to do it based on meego releases, i guess | 11:57 |
| lbt | do we just duplicate the MeeGo ones | 11:57 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: yes... | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | like, 1.0, 1.1 | 11:57 |
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| lbt | I don't know how our poor 16CPU box will cope building all of MeeGo though | 11:58 |
| lbt | Hi Jaffa :)# | 11:59 |
| lbt | hmmm smiley ^^ with a goatee | 12:00 |
| w00t_ | :)~ | 12:00 |
| lbt | french goatee | 12:00 |
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| Aard | oh, goatee, not goatse. | 12:05 |
| w00t_ | vital difference, there | 12:05 |
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| * lbt refrains from starting a new set of smilies .... :O | 12:06 | |
| w00t_ | <O< | 12:06 |
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| Aard | lbt: there's already one: (_O_) | 12:09 |
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| ChildOfGod | I need some help on mx. Is there some sample code available somewhere? | 12:13 |
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| ChildOfGod | The best place to learn mx is the tests directory in the mx source code. | 12:37 |
| townxelliot | ChildOfGod: you might find this useful - http://moblin.org/documentation/moblin-sdk/coding-tutorials/building-pdf-viewer-in-c | 12:39 |
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| ChildOfGod | townxelliot: wow, thanks :) | 12:40 |
| townxelliot | ChildOfGod: much of the technology is deprecated (like the Linux Project Generator), and the Mx API may have changed a bit (though I did check that tutorial over in June, I think), but hopefully there's some useful stuff in there | 12:41 |
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| ChildOfGod | ok. | 12:41 |
| townxelliot | ChildOfGod: some of the old Moblin sample code may also be useful: http://git.moblin.org/moblin-sdk-examples | 12:42 |
| townxelliot | ChildOfGod: sorry, http://git.moblin.org/cgit.cgi/moblin-sdk-examples/ | 12:43 |
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| Jaffa | lcuk: Replied to your "smart unionfs" idea with an article I was just reading in LWN | 13:00 |
| lcuk | \o great jaffa just opened it now | 13:01 |
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| amjad | is it only me or repo.meego.com is down?? | 13:24 |
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| ChildOfGod | amjad: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/repo.meego.com | 13:31 |
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| amjad | thanks ChildofGod, it is down | 13:32 |
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| Kompo | is there an irc channel for meegotouch development/developers? i don't see any action in #meegotouch on freenode | 13:46 |
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| w00t_ | Kompo: good question, I don't know where they hang out.. might be an idea to send a mail to the ML and ask whether there is anything set up | 13:47 |
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| InformatiQ | about kickstarter | 14:09 |
| InformatiQ | does anyone know if there is a tool to write the yaml files? | 14:10 |
| sandsmark | vim? :-) | 14:11 |
| ChildOfGod | http://search.cpan.org/~andya/Data-YAML-0.0.6/lib/Data/YAML/Writer.pm | 14:11 |
| ChildOfGod | perl module | 14:12 |
| InformatiQ | well i was hoping for something along the lines of converting a ks file to a yaml file | 14:12 |
| InformatiQ | or a kickstarter specific tool | 14:12 |
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| tmzt | is telepathy-ring officially part of meego and is this the main source repo? | 14:18 |
| tmzt | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-cellular/telepathy-ring | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes, yes | 14:18 |
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| Stskeeps | ofono based | 14:18 |
| tmzt | cool, was this called something before? | 14:18 |
| tmzt | like robots stuff | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's telepathy-ring from maemo5 remade for ofono | 14:19 |
| tmzt | hah, I might know some people who would add fso2 support if there's any interest, or making it modular enough to support both | 14:19 |
| ScottishDuck | So... meego can do calls on n900 now? | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | working on it, a lot of kernel patches to go in, plugin updates, etc | 14:20 |
| ScottishDuck | right | 14:20 |
| tmzt | what is librtcom? | 14:20 |
| ScottishDuck | Beta is set for august, right? | 14:20 |
| luist | heey i need some information about garage... i install an application correctly, but when i remove it, it leaves the dependencies installed... how can i prevent that? can i pass 2 tags "package" in garage_data.xml to force install/remove these 2 packages? | 14:22 |
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| InformatiQ | win 3 | 14:31 |
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| koupsaa | hello, meego repositories down ? | 14:35 |
| amjad | yes koupsaa | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | seems so, mirrors exist | 14:36 |
| koupsaa | ok thx, it's difficult to setup mirrors ? | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | i thought repo was load balanced actually | 14:39 |
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| koupsaa | it is because of success, :) | 14:42 |
| koupsaa | meego success | 14:43 |
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| lbt | right.. food | 14:58 |
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| luist | heey i need some information about garage... i install an application correctly, but when i remove it, it leaves the dependencies installed... how can i prevent that? can i pass 2 tags "package" in garage_data.xml to force install/remove these 2 packages? | 15:25 |
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| slonopotamus | luist: use nonbroken package manager | 15:29 |
| slonopotamus | luist: apt doesn't correctly handle deps removal | 15:29 |
| slonopotamus | err | 15:30 |
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| luist | slonopotamus, uh? isnt zypper the default? | 15:45 |
| slonopotamus | luist: i messed up channels a bit :) can't say anything about zypper | 15:45 |
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| Macer | so. meego worth trying yet? ;) | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | not this week on arm | 15:54 |
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| Macer | Stskeeps: ok thanks | 16:10 |
| Macer | new episodes of eureka | 16:10 |
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| FunkyPenguin | DawnFoster, any news on the compliance program? | 16:20 |
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| DawnFoster | FunkyPenguin: I'll have to check. Quite a few people have been out on holiday this month, so I'm not sure exactly where we are with it. | 16:25 |
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| DawnFoster | I'm hoping to get it on the next TSG agenda for Aug 4 (assuming it's ready for approval) | 16:26 |
| FunkyPenguin | DawnFoster, ok thanks - the trademark restrictions for themeing/icons have some major implications | 16:27 |
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| DawnFoster | FunkyPenguin: We do have the trademark guidelines if that helps: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/linux-foundation-trademark-usage-guidelines | 16:29 |
| DawnFoster | Reminder: we have a community office meeting in #meego-meeting starting in 30 minutes. Anyone can join. Agenda here: http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings | 16:31 |
| FunkyPenguin | DawnFoster, thanks, but according to the rather sparse License file in say moblin-icon-theme i have to comply with the Trademark which asks for compliance | 16:31 |
| FunkyPenguin | is there any reason for this oddity? | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: 30 minutes? oh, thought it was tonight | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | time to get out the door and get some cash for the delivery guys then, brb | 16:32 |
| DawnFoster | FunkyPenguin: compliance ensures that when someone calls something MeeGo that it really is MeeGo and adheres to certain standards. | 16:32 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps. we rotate times, so this one is at 14:00 UTC (last one was 19:00 UTC). | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 16:34 |
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| FunkyPenguin | DawnFoster, i understand compliance, but what about for people wanting to spread some of the love (using the user experience on another distro)? | 16:35 |
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| DawnFoster | FunkyPenguin: I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to use the MeeGo logo or call it MeeGo (just a guess - I'm not in charge of compliance) | 16:37 |
| FunkyPenguin | ok, that's fine - sort of like what was in place with Moblin | 16:38 |
| DawnFoster | FunkyPenguin: keep in mind that it's a guess on my part, since I haven't seen the final compliance docs either :) | 16:38 |
| FunkyPenguin | DawnFoster, yup i understand, thanks | 16:39 |
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| HolgiDE | hi | 16:53 |
| HolgiDE | I have a question: is there a build available containing the released updates for meego netbook 1.0 | 16:54 |
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| DawnFoster | Community Office meeting starting now in #meego-meeting http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings | 17:00 |
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| luist | heey i need some information about garage... i install an application correctly, but when i remove it, it leaves the dependencies installed... how can i prevent that? can i pass 2 tags "package" in garage_data.xml to force install/remove these 2 packages? | 17:04 |
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| HolgiDE | luist: looks like this is not he place for answers, I also stated a question without any reaction | 17:26 |
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| lcuk | HolgiDE, images are meant to be reprepared on a weekly basis | 17:27 |
| lcuk | i believe | 17:27 |
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| lcuk | i am not sure if its setup, ive only seen people updating | 17:28 |
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| lcuk | luist, right now, lbt may be the best person to ask but hes afk | 17:28 |
| HolgiDE | lcuk: can you give me a link to the source or is that just via online update? | 17:28 |
| luist | lcuk ok thx | 17:29 |
| lcuk | HolgiDE, i dont have any technical bits with me, someone else will | 17:31 |
| HolgiDE | lcuk: ok | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | HolgiDE: what was your question? | 17:31 |
| HolgiDE | Stskeeps: if there are newer iamges available for netbooks than 1.0 | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/ http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.11.20100716.1/netbook/images/ | 17:33 |
| HolgiDE | Stskeeps: thanks, that's exactly what I need | 17:33 |
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| lcuk | ta Stskeeps \o | 17:34 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: i guess its also about how you see your role - i personally wouldn't expect you to answer questions on tech matters in forums, except for matters related to forming community | 18:03 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: me either, but when no one else is willing to step in and answer, I have to do the right thing for the community | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | rather facilitating so others could | 18:03 |
| DawnFoster | which means answering tech questions. | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | and agreed, always a bit of bootstrapping | 18:03 |
| DawnFoster | I've requested help answering forum questions in the past several community office meetings, in several mailing list posts, and in multiple Intel meetings | 18:04 |
| DawnFoster | lots of people complain that there isn't anything they can do to participate | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | must be frustrating at times, yeah | 18:05 |
| DawnFoster | but they don't want to help with the areas that really need help | 18:05 |
| DawnFoster | *nod* | 18:05 |
| * TSCHAKeee hugs DawnFoster i feel your pain. albeit in a different community. :) | 18:06 | |
| DawnFoster | thanks | 18:06 |
| DawnFoster | I'm kind of used to it - this is typical for community managers | 18:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | mhm | 18:06 |
| TSCHAKeee | yeah..the stress is an odd one.. | 18:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | some drink | 18:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | some turn to drugs | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | maybe something along bugjar, but for threads? | 18:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | some just play WoW | 18:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | :P | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | mailed to -dev | 18:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | me, I just make voodoo dolls of all the trolls and smash them with a hammer | 18:07 |
| DawnFoster | I'll have to try the voodoo dolls - sounds like fun :) | 18:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | it works | 18:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | :) | 18:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | hehehehehe | 18:09 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: i think a skilled set of forum people will come when QA structure becomes appearant, as people can participate in the testing and know the pitfalls | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | same patterns goes for people in #meego-arm, we help because we've been through same troubles and know how to deal with it | 18:11 |
| DawnFoster | the reality is that answering user questions feels a lot like customer support, which isn't very sexy, so it can be hard to get people to help | 18:13 |
| DawnFoster | I've had this challenge in every community I've managed :) | 18:13 |
| DawnFoster | we need to make answering questions in the forum sexy | 18:13 |
| DawnFoster | or I need more work on those voodoo dolls and mind control | 18:14 |
| DawnFoster | I'll try anything at this point :) | 18:14 |
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| Stskeeps | i guess challenge is also that well, our current stage isn't end-user 'ready' (a lot of quirks), which is even more difficult to create a forum community around | 18:19 |
| DawnFoster | exactly | 18:21 |
| DawnFoster | we have a lot of novice end users trying out a developer build | 18:22 |
| DawnFoster | always a recipe for difficult conversations | 18:22 |
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| TSCHAKeee | heheh | 18:22 |
| Termana | DawnFoster, I think one of the problems is that they for some reason expect it to be end-user ready, when its still in early kind of stages of development | 18:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | for my community, imagine loads of people installing what they think is XBMC on steroids.. only to fall down when they fail to understand that the system takes pre-planning to use... :/ | 18:24 |
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| DawnFoster | I'm hoping it gets easier once we have OEM builds for end users | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | it's also a bit confusing that on one side we're met with that nvidia and other things aren't supported cos of licensing, while at the same time we have 'closed' builds like chrome and flashplayer in netbook images.. | 18:26 |
| DawnFoster | agreed | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | is repo.meego.com considered linux foundation territory or intel territory, just out of curiousity? | 18:28 |
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| w00t_ | Stskeeps: i'd have thought meego territory :-P | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | well, meego sorts under LF - no strong feelings towards either of them :P | 18:29 |
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| Stskeeps | when it comes to some licensing agreements things like that might matter, or help some issues, hence me pondering :) | 18:32 |
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| Termana | Good night #meego | 18:36 |
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| DawnFoster | a few things are on intel servers now, but when we move them to osu those will be linux foundation, too | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:36 |
| DawnFoster | oops, lost my connection | 18:36 |
| DawnFoster | and we're operating as if they were at the linux foundation for the most part anyway | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | i was personally happy to see non-oss seperated out, declares things better and shows what lengths there actually are needed to make things work | 18:37 |
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| Stskeeps | from a technical pov, that is | 18:37 |
| DawnFoster | stskeeps: agreed. It's funny some of the comments I hear from people who want an open source system, but they want it to work on hardware that doesn't have open source drivers :) | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | i am personally happy if i can get the drivers in the first place.. next step is being able to redistribute the resulting image without legal consequence | 18:39 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, best get the full intel graphics drivers open and available then :p | 18:39 |
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| DawnFoster | you have no idea how frustrating that is for our team :) | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | i would be happy to see something like ubuntu's closed hardware driver system in meego, like, for those unfortunate people having GMA500 or nvidia or ATI, etc | 18:40 |
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| DawnFoster | yeah, I've been hammering people internally to provide some better way to do this | 18:40 |
| DawnFoster | needless to say, I don't make those decisions | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | i bet you're happy that you don't have to at times either :P | 18:41 |
| DawnFoster | good point | 18:42 |
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| Stskeeps | frankly, if those emgd drivers are distributed like they were with the IVI licensing on moblin, there really should be no problem unless you're really picky | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | as in, a repo with the rpms in them for it you grab after a eula acceptance | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | same method we have on n900 | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | my job is to tell people what the community thinks is broken, and I just had a huge discussion with the architects about the drivers issue | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | best thing to happen is to make meego so popular nvidia, ti, imgtec and ati starts posting drivers for meego ;) | 18:43 |
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| DawnFoster | that's the ideal situation | 18:44 |
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| Stskeeps | or a livecd with mic2 installed to generate images on the fly :P | 18:45 |
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| fabo | repo.meego.com/tools/ has been updated | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | cool, finally | 18:47 |
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| Khertan | hi ! | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | lo Khertan | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | how's it going? | 18:51 |
| Khertan | i'm fine | 18:51 |
| Khertan | fighting with my own repository | 18:51 |
| lbt | hey Khertan.... were you interested in the community OBS... | 18:51 |
| Khertan | but fine ... and you ? | 18:51 |
| Khertan | lbt, of course i'm ! | 18:51 |
| lbt | want to beta test it? | 18:52 |
| Khertan | yep | 18:52 |
| lbt | we really need some help on the maemo side | 18:52 |
| Khertan | :) | 18:52 |
| Khertan | i still didn't understand how it s work | 18:52 |
| Khertan | but i ll study that | 18:53 |
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| Stskeeps | hm, where was the questions page again for forum? | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | as in, unanswered | 18:53 |
| Khertan | someone know if pyqt are available in some repository for meego ? | 18:54 |
| lbt | Khertan: any questions... just yell | 18:56 |
| lbt | also... just to get going: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build | 18:56 |
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| DawnFoster | lbt: minutes from the community office meeting http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-07-20-13.59.html | 19:03 |
| DawnFoster | (the one you missed 2 hours ago) | 19:03 |
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| lbt | DawnFoster: yeah... wedding anniversary today... we went shopping for a kettle ;) | 19:04 |
| DawnFoster | congratulations! | 19:04 |
| lbt | <grin> ta | 19:05 |
| lbt | 19 apparently... | 19:05 |
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| lbt | DawnFoster: I'm very keen to participate... sometimes I'll have my head down though. If I'm not around I'd appreciate a ping. | 19:07 |
| DawnFoster | I can try to remember to ping you. This one was at 7am - I was still on my first cup of tea | 19:08 |
| DawnFoster | I may or may not have been coherent | 19:08 |
| lbt | yup... and the 05:00 one... maybe not... | 19:08 |
| DawnFoster | yeah, that one keeps me up past my bedtime | 19:09 |
| DawnFoster | we'll see what kind of participation we get from asia | 19:09 |
| DawnFoster | if we aren't seeing participation, we'll move it back to 19:00 | 19:09 |
| DawnFoster | utc | 19:09 |
| lbt | *nod* | 19:09 |
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| lbt | no mrshaver... OK | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | hm? he was in meeting | 19:10 |
| lbt | yeah... not here now though.... wondered about the security group | 19:10 |
| lbt | it's an issue for maemo obs | 19:11 |
| lbt | I'm good enough to know I can't do it ;) | 19:11 |
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| DawnFoster | mrshaver is going to pop back into irc just for you lbt :) | 19:13 |
| lbt | hey mrshaver :) | 19:14 |
| mrshaver | not sure I can actually answer any questions though! :) | 19:14 |
| lbt | sorry I missed the meeting | 19:14 |
| mrshaver | np, it was pretty slow with all the vacations | 19:14 |
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| lbt | I was just going to ask about the security 'audit'/support | 19:14 |
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| lbt | we could get them started on the community OBS as installed if there was interest | 19:15 |
| mrshaver | lbt: since we haven't migrated everything to OSU yet, I shifted the focus of the consulting a bit to concentrate on recommendations for the infrastructure | 19:16 |
| lbt | and of course... trying to get a hold of "Adam" so X-Fade and I can get going on the next step | 19:16 |
| mrshaver | but, they would like to talk to you about the OBS as well | 19:16 |
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| lbt | great - I'd love that ... I'm a bit of a security bod too | 19:17 |
| mrshaver | and I'm sure we can use your recommendations and others to get it right from the beginning | 19:17 |
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| lbt | is the scope the infra and tools or does it extend to the platform? | 19:17 |
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| mrshaver | no, it's just for infra and tools | 19:18 |
| lbt | OK - good to be clear | 19:18 |
| mrshaver | Adam has separated the build infrastructure a bit from these servers, so it would be some slight talking back and forth, but not much | 19:18 |
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| lbt | OK | 19:19 |
| mrshaver | as X-Fade mentioned, getting the SSO figured out is the big one to tackle | 19:19 |
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| lbt | yes... well, I've sorted out a buglet in LDAP for OBS today so my head is in that space now | 19:20 |
| mrshaver | doesn't OBS now support OpenID as well? | 19:20 |
| lbt | I'd have to check to see how stable it is | 19:21 |
| lbt | it was a GSOC project... not sure if it completed | 19:21 |
| mrshaver | if you could help Niels fill in as much detail as possible about the community OBS on this page, it would help a lot: http://wiki.meego.com/Web_infrastructure | 19:21 |
| mrshaver | just create a separate page for it and link from that table | 19:21 |
| lbt | you've seen : http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service ? | 19:22 |
| lbt | especially : http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service/Installation | 19:22 |
| mrshaver | I do recall that page, maybe we just link from the meego wiki page to these pages? | 19:22 |
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| lbt | yes... just FYI really | 19:23 |
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| lbt | are the security group advising on SSO ? | 19:24 |
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| mrshaver | lbt: yes, they would be looking at SSO across all the services | 19:24 |
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| lbt | good | 19:24 |
| mrshaver | I imagine LDAP will win out, but I'm not sure? | 19:25 |
| lbt | See what they say... I'm not up-to-date | 19:25 |
| lbt | On a related topic... | 19:26 |
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| lbt | I think we should look at this very carefully : http://wiki.meego.com/Infrastructure/BOSS/Design | 19:27 |
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| lbt | we actually have a lot of workflow type things in the community that it could help | 19:28 |
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| mrshaver | I'll take a closer look at that, I just glanced when I last heard about it | 19:28 |
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| mrshaver | Does Anas know about this as well? | 19:29 |
| lbt | yes... we'll be using it in meego.com build | 19:29 |
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| lbt | I think it could be useful to us in the community too | 19:29 |
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| lbt | it's designed for long-term processes | 19:29 |
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| mrshaver | seems well thought out | 19:30 |
| lbt | kinda cool to specify ... => timeout 3w | 19:30 |
| lbt | w=weeks | 19:30 |
| lbt | yeah.. it's my baby :) | 19:30 |
| mrshaver | BTW, did you see my question to Niels about the community OBS being slow with only a few build hosts | 19:31 |
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| lbt | yes... sizing it is a problem | 19:31 |
| mrshaver | do you have any ideas of the expansion necessary if builds are really slow? | 19:31 |
| lbt | Nokia's isn't being stressed | 19:31 |
| lbt | no. I'd ask Anas about the load on theirs. | 19:31 |
| lbt | plus I know we're not doing accel on arm yet | 19:32 |
| lbt | and I don't know how the community will use it | 19:32 |
| lbt | if it's a garage then it's not so big a deal | 19:32 |
| mrshaver | he didn't provide any specifics, but he did say it would be painful with only a few | 19:32 |
| lbt | but one thing that I'm hearing is an x86 build of MeeGo... non-sssssssse3 | 19:32 |
| lbt | which may take more grunt | 19:33 |
| lbt | also s/hearing/hearing and pushing/ :) | 19:33 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: is there any prioritization in obs yet? | 19:34 |
| lbt | yes... | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | oh? | 19:34 |
| lbt | but it's hard to asses how it impacts without having a loaded system | 19:34 |
| lbt | stress testing an OBS is an interesting challenge... | 19:35 |
| lbt | we need Mer | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | import our old sources, rebuild ;) | 19:35 |
| lbt | mmm.... | 19:35 |
| * lbt may just go and create Mer as the x86 build... | 19:36 | |
| lbt | heh | 19:36 |
| lbt | 0.18 lives! | 19:36 |
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| * Stskeeps misses Mer to some degree but at least the porting community seems to flourish in meego-arm | 19:37 | |
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| lbt | I want to see some of your arm guys doing some apps on the open OBS too | 19:38 |
| lbt | we really need to understand the best way to setup projects | 19:38 |
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| Stskeeps | i know i'd like joggler and n8x0 on open obs, easier collab | 19:38 |
| lbt | I don't think it's as simple as "do what meego.com does" | 19:38 |
| lbt | yep... | 19:39 |
| lbt | you have an account | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | i know | 19:39 |
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| Stskeeps | but easier when others can get one too :) | 19:41 |
| lbt | yeah.. it's the nokia EULA at the moment... | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | you at your mic2 setup now btw? | 19:43 |
| lbt | https://build.obs.maemo.org/project/show?project=Mer | 19:44 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: any news on the n8x0 image? | 19:44 |
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| lbt | no... I hate kvm/lvm/grub-pc | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: no sorry, focusing mostly on n900 this week - the dbus issue is quite bad. i have to wrap up my project period so will push out all my n8x0 stuff during this week | 19:45 |
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| * Stskeeps wonders if mic2 can build fat32 partitions to | 19:50 | |
| Stskeeps | o | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | would be nice to be able to build a full joggler usb stick image | 19:50 |
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| Zoup | is meego is stable on N900? | 20:37 |
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| * Zoup searche topics, faq, every where, not a very good answer :) | 20:38 | |
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| GAN900 | No | 20:53 |
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| GAN900 | Wireless is buggy | 20:55 |
| GAN900 | No cellular | 20:55 |
| GAN900 | Very much an alpha release. | 20:55 |
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| Stskeeps | making a hw adaptation on top of a moving target is very like riding a bull at a rodeo | 20:56 |
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| darkforester | Hey | 21:07 |
| darkforester | >.< | 21:07 |
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| darkforester | Hey guys | 21:08 |
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| Stskeeps | wello | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | patience.. | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:08 |
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| trip0 | "well if nobody is going to reply to me within 1.5mins, I'm outta here!" | 21:15 |
| trip0 | "squirrel!!" | 21:16 |
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| auke | be that way :) | 21:16 |
| trip0 | :P | 21:17 |
| auke | I'm too busy fixing bugs guys ;) | 21:17 |
| auke | new powertop release coming too for x86 fans | 21:17 |
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| gsever | hello | 21:56 |
| gsever | any google voice users around on N900? | 21:56 |
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| w00t_ | sandsmark: thanks for the merge (phonon) | 23:20 |
| sandsmark | oh, np | 23:20 |
| sandsmark | thanks to you :-) | 23:20 |
| sandsmark | sorry it took so long :-P | 23:20 |
| w00t_ | i've seen a lot longer, don't worry about it :-) | 23:20 |
| sandsmark | (I blame mostly Akademy and Solskogen :-P) | 23:20 |
| sandsmark | hehe | 23:20 |
| villev | anyone know where I can crab a spectacle config file (yaml) for a simple python project? | 23:23 |
| villev | I'm actually package something for opensuse, but I'd rather go the "meego way" first | 23:24 |
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| Stskeeps | villev: i put an example on the forum i think | 23:30 |
| Stskeeps | (search after spectacle) | 23:30 |
| villev | yeah, I found your example Stskeeps... but can that really build a python project?? | 23:31 |
| villev | does it try to guess everything by seeing that there is setup.py around? | 23:32 |
| Stskeeps | that's a good question.. let me check something | 23:32 |
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| villev | Stskeeps: best would be some place with tons of spectacle files | 23:33 |
| Stskeeps | like meego rpms :P | 23:34 |
| villev | as it seems there was no such link immediately handy | 23:34 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastebin.com/sjAMtcmv | 23:34 |
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| villev | thanks Stskeeps, I'll use something like that | 23:35 |
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| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Spectacle | 23:35 |
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| villev | Stskeeps: that's an example of page that you open, page down page down, don't find useful stuff, keep on googling ;-) | 23:40 |
| villev | that is, it should have some examples | 23:40 |
| villev | that's what my eyes always scan first | 23:40 |
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| villev | or a link to a page where you can browse these source rpms | 23:41 |
| villev | to get examples | 23:41 |
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| villev | or well, it has "two example spectacle YAML files are placed to examples/ directory in source code" but perhaps it should directly include those examples | 23:42 |
| timeless | villev: does mxr.moego.org suit your needs? | 23:44 |
| * timeless is irc'ing from an n900 while tryinh yo cross a busy street | 23:44 | |
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| TSCHAKeee | :P | 23:47 |
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| timeless | there was a big van available.. | 23:48 |
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| timeless | don't worry, i get 4 crossings in about a 10min span | 23:48 |
| villev | timeless: possibly :-). should I be able to find the yaml files by searching for them? I don't see many useful ones (just from yaml libs actualy) | 23:48 |
| timeless | villev: there are a couple of roots, i can't remember which is which | 23:49 |
| timeless | an offhand i'm not sure what a yaml is | 23:49 |
| villev | well, on meego-root I I found a few | 23:49 |
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| timeless | well, that's something :) | 23:50 |
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| villev | yaml files are used to generate a spec file | 23:50 |
| villev | through "spectacle" | 23:50 |
| * timeless hopes spectacle can be found there too | 23:51 | |
| villev | but it seems mxr is a bit broken. or it gives me "not found" errors when clicking through links | 23:51 |
| villev | e.g. http://mxr.moego.org/meego/sourcegarage-netbook-ui/ | 23:51 |
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| timeless | hrm | 23:52 |
| villev | or http://mxr.moego.org/meego/sourcegarage-client-services/rpm/garage-client-services.yaml | 23:52 |
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| timeless | one sec | 23:52 |
| villev | perhaps / missing in sourcegarage... | 23:52 |
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| timeless_mbp | oh | 23:52 |
| timeless_mbp | yeah, there's a / missing | 23:53 |
| * timeless_mbp frowns | 23:53 | |
| timeless_mbp | there's something confused in that install | 23:53 |
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| timeless | should be fixed now | 23:54 |
| timeless | at least temporarily | 23:54 |
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| villev | yeah, it's working now. and I find 3, yes, three yaml files | 23:56 |
| villev | one would think there should be more... | 23:56 |
| timeless | try the repo.meego.com root instead | 23:56 |
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| villev | yes, much better | 23:57 |
| timeless | the meego root was based on git repos i could find by searching iirc | 23:57 |
| timeless | no one gave me a list | 23:57 |
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| timeless | also i'm worried about how to structure it since source root names for git repos seem uncreative | 23:58 |
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| villev | actually, meego/ root was still better after all | 23:59 |
| villev | the many matcher from meego-repo are coming from yaml libs again | 23:59 |
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| villev | matches | 23:59 |
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| timeless | try \.yaml$ | 23:59 |
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