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| Goliath23 | hi | 00:05 |
| Goliath23 | anyone already working with the qt nokia sdk and programming for n900? | 00:05 |
| Goliath23 | I wonder how I can reproduce the settings widget that scrolls in from the bottom screen, like in n900's program manager. | 00:06 |
| Goliath23 | should probably ask in maemo, hm? :) | 00:06 |
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| thiago_home | try an icon view | 00:06 |
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| Goliath23 | alright. never heard of that, will read about it | 00:07 |
| Goliath23 | thiago_home: Q3IconView? guess not hm? | 00:10 |
| thiago_home | no Q3 in Maemo or MeeGo | 00:11 |
| w00t_ | QListView, with an icon mode set | 00:11 |
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| Goliath23 | my question was more on how I get a widget thats a child widget of my mainwindow, to bahave like those widgets on n900 that appear to scroll in from the bottom | 00:13 |
| Goliath23 | like the catalogues settings from n900's program manager | 00:14 |
| thiago_home | a list view or widget | 00:16 |
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| Goliath23 | a widget | 00:18 |
| brokendatapoint | just booting up my new Acer Aspire One 532H into Windows 7 ... for the first and only time | 00:20 |
| * brokendatapoint drools for Meego | 00:20 | |
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| Goliath23 | ahhh | 00:24 |
| Goliath23 | found the documentation: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qt-maemo-4.6/examples-maemo5.html | 00:24 |
| Goliath23 | sorry :) | 00:24 |
| CosmoHill | Goliath23: you learning Qt? | 00:24 |
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| fengshaun | where can I download MeeGo to test it on my desktop (AMD)? | 00:26 |
| Goliath23 | CosmoHill: nah. not really. it's something I look into now and then if I have the time. | 00:26 |
| fengshaun | they are only intel-atom or ARM | 00:27 |
| CosmoHill | fengshaun: come back in a year or 2, we might have AMD support by then | 00:27 |
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| fengshaun | ah, thanks! | 00:27 |
| Goliath23 | but the Qt SDK for maemo has gotten really good. the remote deplayment works really fine! | 00:27 |
| Goliath23 | I hope they keep all that with meego | 00:27 |
| w00t_ | I rather doubt it would just be thrown out the window :) | 00:28 |
| benno2 | Hi, is the meego netbook image supposed to work only on certain netbooks ? I tried to load it into virtualbox and it freezes during boot. any ideas if I can run it in a VM ? | 00:28 |
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| CosmoHill | benno2: it won't work in a virtual machine due to the 3D requirments | 00:28 |
| docboy | hello everyone. iam trying to dual boot meego with my installed linuxmint. can anyone tell me how. | 00:29 |
| benno2 | CosmoHill, thanks. and can it work on a dell latitude with nvidia 3d chip ? | 00:29 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 00:29 |
| CosmoHill | Nvidia isn't supported yet | 00:29 |
| w00t_ | benno2: not unless you shoehorn nvidia drivers inside it | 00:29 |
| benno2 | CosmoHill, w00t_ thanks for the info. so is it possible to add nvidia drivers with some trick ? any howto ? what is the "officially" supported gfx driver by the meego image? | 00:31 |
| CosmoHill | I've not been able to get nvidia working | 00:32 |
| Goliath23 | w00t_: lets hope so. I mean. the SDK now creates .deb's automatically. meego is rpm, right? | 00:32 |
| w00t_ | apparently http://www.madeo.co.uk/?p=87 is supposed to work | 00:32 |
| docboy | any1. help me fix wireless with compaq mini110c with meego | 00:32 |
| CosmoHill | and as far as I know there isn't anyone who has yet | 00:32 |
| Goliath23 | w00t_: at least that has to be rewritten | 00:32 |
| CosmoHill | someone has made a meego image for QEMU | 00:32 |
| w00t_ | Goliath23: the two aren't all that different | 00:32 |
| Goliath23 | w00t_: true | 00:32 |
| w00t_ | benno2: http://www.madeo.co.uk/?p=87 was at you btw | 00:32 |
| CosmoHill | docboy: broadcom? | 00:32 |
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| docboy | yes, i cant install the broadcom driver | 00:33 |
| CosmoHill | w00t_: iirc that's what I tried and it didn't work | 00:33 |
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| benno2 | thanks w00t_ ! wondering why meego does not support nvidia. at least it would be easier for developers to try it out since nvidia is widely in use. | 00:34 |
| docboy | cosmohill: yes broadcom? | 00:34 |
| w00t_ | CosmoHill: well, someone on the ML got it working, so. | 00:34 |
| CosmoHill | docboy: http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.0_Wifi.html | 00:35 |
| zs | Hi, I am following this document http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_chroot_install_on_N900 and there is "Unpack the Meego image", where can I find this image? Is it meego-n900-open-armv7l-1.0.0.20100525.1-sda.raw.bz2 ? | 00:35 |
| w00t_ | benno2: pretty sure it's because the drivers are nonredistributable, and the main DE requires 3D acceleration - so there's no way (for now) to prompt people to set it up. | 00:35 |
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| docboy | cosmohill: yah ive tried that and followed. but the the last step is to download the driver. always failed. | 00:36 |
| CosmoHill | docboy: step 6? | 00:36 |
| docboy | cosmohill: ya, its the last step to download and install the driver. | 00:37 |
| CosmoHill | link works for me | 00:37 |
| docboy | cosmohill: is there any other way to do that? | 00:37 |
| CosmoHill | I could host the file if you're having trouble getting it | 00:38 |
| docboy | cosmohill: are you running dual boot? or just meego on your netbook.. | 00:38 |
| CosmoHill | I don't run meego at all | 00:38 |
| brokendatapoint | benno2: i do not know the real reason but am guessing because Meego is a project between Intel and Nokia, then Intel-based onboard graphics and CPU's will be first priority. Also makes continuity of development initially more simple and reliable. | 00:39 |
| brokendatapoint | netbook works fine, now to kill Windows and install Meego... | 00:39 |
| docboy | cosmohill: i installed is 3x and i always failed to fix wifi connection. now iam using linuxmint again. | 00:40 |
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| brokendatapoint | any comments on Meego with the Chromium browser? | 00:41 |
| CosmoHill | bit leaky? | 00:42 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | screen door on a submarine leaky | 00:43 |
| brokendatapoint | k, hmm, might try the other Meego first | 00:43 |
| docboy | can any one tell me if meego is working ok. | 00:45 |
| benno2 | brokendatapoint, thanks for the infos. but interesting that they use the chromium browser. google makes android which is probably the main competitor to meego. why support google by including their browser in meego ? | 00:46 |
| benno2 | not giving an easy way to a large number of developers to try out and run meego on a broad range of hardware is IMHO not such a good move. not all devs are going to buy new hw only to play with meego only to discover that it does not suit their needs. | 00:48 |
| brokendatapoint | NFI other than it is light, open source (sort of) and is 100% net focussed as opposed to a stripped down full-system browser | 00:48 |
| brokendatapoint | benno2: i'm with you, have a fancy, high-speed ATI CPU/Nvidia GPU system ... can't use it for Meego ... so I bought a Netbook 8-) | 00:49 |
| * brokendatapoint remembers why he hates Windows ... stupid anti-virus apps/notifications | 00:50 | |
| CosmoHill | chrome is fast, so it should be good on a computer that isn't powerful | 00:50 |
| benno2 | brokendatapoint, yes. strange. so one has to look for etbooks with intel chipset ? did you look at the audio system ? is that already working (pulse audio server etc) ? | 00:50 |
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| CosmoHill | the reason meego only supports intel at the moment is because it's intel developing it | 00:50 |
| CosmoHill | they don't have AMD or Nvidia hardware at their disposal to develop on | 00:51 |
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| brokendatapoint | CosmoHill: as i thought | 00:51 |
| Jaffa | CosmoHill: I don't think Intel have a problem getting AMD or NVidia h/w ;-) | 00:53 |
| brokendatapoint | using image-writer to write a meego.img to USB stick ... is an awfully long 2 mins 40 secs... | 00:54 |
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| CosmoHill | Jaffa: yeah then they actually have to pay for it :p | 00:57 |
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| brokendatapoint | is a usb stick a USB FDD or a USB HDD? | 01:04 |
| satmd | usually usb hdd | 01:04 |
| brokendatapoint | satmd: thanks, will try that | 01:05 |
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| CosmoHill | it will come up as /dev/sdX | 01:06 |
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| brokendatapoint | CosmoHill: this was in conntext of boot device priority in netbook Setup utility, not onboard a functioning linux system | 01:13 |
| brokendatapoint | but thanks anyway! | 01:13 |
| CosmoHill | oh my bad | 01:13 |
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| brokendatapoint | CosmoHill: no matter, what you upto? my Meego is installing... | 01:14 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm watching family guy and about to do some push ups | 01:15 |
| brokendatapoint | haha cool | 01:16 |
| CosmoHill | I just remembered, I was meant to become a irc server admin a few weeks ago | 01:19 |
| brokendatapoint | doing post-install setup => re Creat User, what does "Encrypt data" mean? encrypt the adduser info or the entire drive data? | 01:19 |
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| CosmoHill | I think it would be /home | 01:20 |
| brokendatapoint | ah, would you recommend encrypt? | 01:20 |
| CosmoHill | last time I did that I forgot the password | 01:21 |
| brokendatapoint | haha, whoops | 01:21 |
| CosmoHill | it would depends on how long you plan to keep meego on your drive and what data you plan to keep on it | 01:21 |
| brokendatapoint | i'll do it to see how it goes, can only generate more crack backtraces for the /devs | 01:22 |
| CosmoHill | my mac is my personal every day computer and has 5 years of my life on it | 01:22 |
| CosmoHill | my windows laptop is just used for work and has pretty much nothing about me on it | 01:22 |
| brokendatapoint | meego: forever data: nothing special, all *serious* stuff is offline | 01:22 |
| brokendatapoint | wow, a fully functional Meego in 33 mins ... with sound, awesome!!!! | 01:24 |
| CosmoHill | damn you | 01:24 |
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| CosmoHill | do you know how long it took me? | 01:24 |
| brokendatapoint | you are not using it, saw your post above | 01:24 |
| CosmoHill | correct | 01:24 |
| CosmoHill | that's how long it took me to get meego working | 01:25 |
| brokendatapoint | haha, so why you here? | 01:25 |
| CosmoHill | cos I'm interested in meego | 01:25 |
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| CosmoHill | I want to learn more about desktop services for linux and GUI | 01:25 |
| brokendatapoint | fair enough, in what capacity? user/dev/vendor | 01:25 |
| brokendatapoint | ah k | 01:25 |
| CosmoHill | also to gain experience at being in a larger community than I'm used to | 01:26 |
| CosmoHill | I need to see if I can grab a Core 2 computer from uni | 01:27 |
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| brokendatapoint | you in the US? | 01:28 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 01:28 |
| brokendatapoint | in a "western" nation? | 01:28 |
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| CosmoHill | yes | 01:29 |
| CosmoHill | you're to me west (assuming your american) | 01:29 |
| brokendatapoint | Kiwi | 01:30 |
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| CosmoHill | there's an easy way to find out | 01:30 |
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| brokendatapoint | I am a Kiwi ... New Zealand | 01:31 |
| CosmoHill | ah okay, my bad | 01:31 |
| CosmoHill | in fruit terms, I'm a limey | 01:31 |
| brokendatapoint | hahaha, Pom, there should be many IBM/Intel-based systems in your neck of the woods to buy to run Meego | 01:32 |
| CosmoHill | yeah but they cost money | 01:33 |
| brokendatapoint | i paid $NZD930 for this Aspire One 532h, a 2GB SODIMM stick and a carry bag ... a second-hand Intel Core 2 would have been cheaper | 01:33 |
| CosmoHill | I'm quiet lucky | 01:35 |
| CosmoHill | I live off decent hand my downs / throw outs | 01:35 |
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| brokendatapoint | quite* not quiet, sorry am pedantic about English | 01:35 |
| CosmoHill | that's alright, helps me improve | 01:36 |
| brokendatapoint | else it will sound like some mangled patois from Africa etc | 01:36 |
| brokendatapoint | are you a Brit, or just living there? | 01:36 |
| CosmoHill | I am british | 01:36 |
| brokendatapoint | great! | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | indeed | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | I think we scared everyone into being quiet | 01:37 |
| brokendatapoint | haha, hmm is night time for the Yanks now, date/time where you are? | 01:38 |
| CosmoHill | erm | 01:38 |
| CosmoHill | late afternoon for american | 01:38 |
| brokendatapoint | haha, my bad, at the bottom of the world, we forget stuff like that | 01:39 |
| CosmoHill | just write down "yesterday" | 01:39 |
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| brokendatapoint | yeah | 01:39 |
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| brokendatapoint | right, i have to go and see a man about a job, enjoy! | 01:42 |
| CosmoHill | good luck | 01:43 |
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| brokendatapoint | CosmoHill: thanks | 01:47 |
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| fengshaun | is there any way I can test meego with qemu? I couldn't find any pointers in the wiki | 02:42 |
| CosmoHill | I've seen something about ARM7 on QEMU | 02:43 |
| CosmoHill | someone also made a meego image for QEMU | 02:43 |
| CosmoHill | http://www.neopeek.com/de/stories/meego/85-meego-10-gui-qemu | 02:43 |
| fengshaun | CosmoHill: thanks a lot! | 02:44 |
| fengshaun | cool! Just what I wanted! | 02:46 |
| CosmoHill | i think i also heard that you can use the SDK on systems that support SSSE3 and have an ATi graphics card | 02:47 |
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| CosmoHill | tomorrow I'll have a go at booting meego on one of my things | 02:53 |
| CosmoHill | for now I'll sleep, cyas | 02:53 |
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| smoku | http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=4179&postcount=4 any idea what's wrong? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | you couldn't be tempted to try this out in a fedora vm could you? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | just to see if there's similar symptoms there | 11:45 |
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| sejo | con meego be used on a n900 already? | 11:50 |
| sejo | can | 11:50 |
| sejo | what functionality can I expect? | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | an xterm | 11:51 |
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| BluesLee | hehe | 11:51 |
| sejo | wow | 11:51 |
| sejo | I think I'll wait a little longer then p | 11:52 |
| sejo | :p | 11:52 |
| BluesLee | sejo: you may try the netbook version | 11:52 |
| sejo | BluesLee: the only netbook I have is an old eeePC (900) and haven't used it for like a year :p | 11:53 |
| thiago_home | if it has a Core2 processor or better or an Atom, you can try to upgrade it to Meego | 11:53 |
| sejo | just wanted to see whether meego would work on my n900 | 11:53 |
| BluesLee | sejo: it would be sufficient, get unetbootin and the meego netbook image and just boot from an usb stick | 11:53 |
| thiago_home | sejo: it works | 11:54 |
| thiago_home | it doesn't contain much in terms of apps though | 11:54 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: i don't like VM. is there a chroot I could use? | 12:26 |
| smoku | I got used to using scratchbox chroot, so I could live with fedora chroot | 12:27 |
| smoku | I even overcomed my python disgust and thied debugging the problem, but it resists strongly :/ | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: mm, i guess a chroot should be possible to locate | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | not sure where, i think i basically rsynced a fedora vm :) | 12:29 |
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| thiago_home | extract the files from the VM into a chroot | 12:33 |
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| smoku | and I hoped I could finally work without scratchbox madness | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | then help port mic to your distros :P | 12:41 |
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| smoku | well... I found the problem | 12:44 |
| smoku | options.config = "/root/" + os.path.basename(options.config) | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | mic++ | 12:44 |
| smoku | it's hardcoded | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | it's high on my list of things to recode | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:48 |
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| smoku | it's supposed to be written there beforehand | 12:55 |
| smoku | (nice place for temporary files BTW) | 12:55 |
| smoku | but it isn't | 12:55 |
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| smoku | HA! it should be: | 13:04 |
| smoku | options.config = options.bootstrap + "/root/" + os.path.basename(options.config) | 13:04 |
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| Stskeeps | send a merge request :) | 13:05 |
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| Stskeeps | oh, and do you use legacy_mode = 0 or something? | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | that's probably the source of all your problems if you dont | 13:06 |
| smoku | argh! | 13:07 |
| smoku | how do I login to bugzilla? | 13:07 |
| smoku | (I wanted to post e bug report) | 13:07 |
| smoku | what is legacy_mode? | 13:08 |
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| Stskeeps | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/sages-image-creator/blobs/HEAD/mic2.conf | 13:11 |
| smoku | log in asks me for a password | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | you'll want to set that to 0 | 13:11 |
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| smoku | new account - says Access Denied | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | log in with your meego.com credentials? | 13:12 |
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| Myrtti | *yawn* moin | 13:13 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: I am logged in. | 13:14 |
| smoku | I've set legacy mode - it's different now http://pastebin.com/JGvz46mv | 13:15 |
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| Stskeeps | what parameters are you running with? | 13:17 |
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| smoku | sudo mic-image-creator --config=/home/smoku/anemo/meego-codedrop-arm-n900-2010033116.ks --mainrepo=meego --format=loop --cache=mycache | 13:22 |
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| Stskeeps | you're forgetting -a armv5tel | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | or armv7l | 13:24 |
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| smoku | wiki does not say anything about --arch=arm | 13:25 |
| smoku | and in bootstrap mode it worked without | 13:25 |
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| smoku | why does it need qemu? | 13:26 |
| pupnik | looks like i missed an interesting discussion | 13:28 |
| smoku | nope. It's me whining again | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: yeah, Image_Creation? | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: it needs qemu to emulate ARM binaries, to be able to run postinst scripts? | 13:29 |
| smoku | oh | 13:29 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#Running_mic-image-creator | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, sec.. | 13:30 |
| smoku | and as you're there, please mention legacy mode in http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#MIC2_Configuration_file | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Creating_ARM_image_using_MeeGo_Image_Creator | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | that's how we actually build them | 13:31 |
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| Sage | It depends much of the /etc/mic2/mic2.conf if the bootstrap=0 is required or not to the command line. | 13:32 |
| pupnik | the folks at xen tell me it should be able to run meego parallel to my dev OS | 13:33 |
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| balor | I'm trying to flash an N800 with OS2008 using command "flasher-3.5 -f -F RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin", but am getting "To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-Loader image". What am I doing wrong? | 14:22 |
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| * balor is aware the hardware/software combo is old, but it's a testing device | 14:22 | |
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| Stskeeps | RX-44 is N810 | 14:23 |
| balor | ah | 14:23 |
| balor | Stskeeps: what's the last N800 release? | 14:24 |
| Myrtti | ... how is this connected to meego? | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | balor: look for RX-34, and #maemo :P | 14:24 |
| balor | Stskeeps: thanks | 14:24 |
| CosmoHill | hey Stskeeps | 14:25 |
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| Stskeeps | moo | 14:27 |
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| pinchartl | Stskeeps: previous flasher versions relied on the flashing algorithm being part of the boot loader. they now assume it's not the case, and require the flashing algorithm to be sent to the device. it must be part of the image | 14:29 |
| pinchartl | Stskeeps: try with an old flasher version if you got one | 14:29 |
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| pinchartl | (the flashing "algorithm", as far as I know, is a kernel+initrd image that is booted by the boot loader) | 14:30 |
| pinchartl | and I meant balor instead of Stskeeps | 14:31 |
| pinchartl | and, reading the original question again, that's probably unrelated :-) | 14:31 |
| balor | pinchartl: it worked when I got the correct image | 14:31 |
| balor | pinchartl: dumb users! | 14:31 |
| pinchartl | :-) | 14:31 |
| * pinchartl still needs to recover from lack of sleep | 14:32 | |
| CosmoHill | http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/meego-dot-net/ << I'm just read that and I'm kinda confused | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: i think it's more safe to assume the people behind those sites aren't taking their mandated medication | 14:33 |
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| pinchartl | it's a fact that the meego netbook image uses banshee as its default media player, and that's bad. my hope is that it will be replaced | 14:34 |
| * thiago_home agrees with Stskeeps | 14:34 | |
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| Myrtti | oh, techrights. | 14:36 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: I did think they were taling crap | 14:36 |
| Myrtti | the site formerly known as boycottnovell | 14:36 |
| thiago_home | conspiracy-theorists | 14:37 |
| Myrtti | or http://identi.ca/notice/36624738 | 14:37 |
| CosmoHill | I have a nice picture to show you guys :) | 14:37 |
| Myrtti | and http://identi.ca/notice/35574906 | 14:38 |
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| CosmoHill | http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/meego-gdm-fbfu.jpg | 14:39 |
| CosmoHill | i think this is what happens when you don;t flush the VRAM | 14:39 |
| thiago_home | that's the boot screen? | 14:40 |
| CosmoHill | the blue part is | 14:40 |
| * thiago_home also notes the "Prepare to Boot to OS12]: Boot Menu" message at the bottom | 14:41 | |
| CosmoHill | the big white part is the BIOS screen | 14:41 |
| CosmoHill | it says "PHILIPS" in the background behind GDM | 14:41 |
| thiago_home | so what is this? the boot or gdm? | 14:41 |
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| CosmoHill | gdm | 14:42 |
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| CosmoHill | I think what has happened is that X has started and hasn't cleared what was in the VRAM | 14:43 |
| thiago_home | -yeah | 14:43 |
| CosmoHill | since the BIOS is 1280x800 and the meego boot is a lot smaller, you see most of the bios and some of the boot screen | 14:43 |
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| * gour1 was able to get meego running under VM (vbox) :-D | 15:31 | |
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| CosmoHill | how'd you do that? | 15:32 |
| CosmoHill | did you change moblin-dm to gdm? in inittab? | 15:33 |
| gour | CosmoHill: i followed http://www.adriannuta.com/2010/06/14/run-meego-in-virtualboxlinux/ | 15:33 |
| gour | spent so much time with this issue...at the end it was quite simple - proper liglx.so only :-) | 15:34 |
| CosmoHill | hmm | 15:36 |
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| gour | it would be nice to put the above url to http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox page | 15:40 |
| gour | i belive thati'm going to buy (dell) netbook and develop my meego app for it...later, if handhelds becomes cheaper i may target 'em | 15:42 |
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| CosmoHill | gour: i wonder if I can use this to get nvidia working | 15:48 |
| gour | CosmoHill: well, my desktop has ati card | 15:48 |
| CosmoHill | gour: have you tried the SDK? | 15:50 |
| gour | CosmoHill: yes, it works, but i prefer VM | 15:51 |
| gour | and it's quicker | 15:54 |
| CosmoHill | ah I've ran into a problem | 15:59 |
| CosmoHill | I get to the select hard drive section | 15:59 |
| CosmoHill | I click "create custom partition" and press next, the next page however is blank apart from the back and next buttons | 15:59 |
| gour | i used default layout | 16:00 |
| CosmoHill | I tried that but it says I don't have enough space | 16:01 |
| gour | have you created virtual hd? | 16:01 |
| CosmoHill | no no this is real hardware | 16:01 |
| CosmoHill | I'm trying to use my 4GB ipod mini as an external hard drive | 16:02 |
| gour | ahh | 16:02 |
| gour | no idea then | 16:02 |
| CosmoHill | anyone know the name of the installer used by meego? | 16:04 |
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| CosmoHill | interesting, init 4 is the installer | 16:04 |
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| CosmoHill | Plan B | 16:18 |
| * CosmoHill walks away | 16:18 | |
| amjad | i wont be surprised if meego installer is anaconda, | 16:22 |
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| satmd | snakes. everywhere. | 16:24 |
| gour | CosmoHill: any progress? | 16:27 |
| CosmoHill | nope gave up | 16:27 |
| gour | :-( | 16:27 |
| CosmoHill | I might give vmware ESXi | 16:28 |
| CosmoHill | ago later | 16:28 |
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| smoku | File "/usr/bin/mic-image-creator", line 780, in main | 16:59 |
| smoku | raise FatalError("failed to create image : %s" % e) | 16:59 |
| smoku | UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xf3' in position 57: ordinal not in range(128) | 16:59 |
| smoku | :/ | 16:59 |
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| smoku | what's wrong again :/ | 16:59 |
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| thiago_home | compound error | 16:59 |
| thiago_home | it was going to raise an error, but an error was raised about the error | 16:59 |
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| smoku | ok. with LANG=POSIX it is: | 17:00 |
| smoku | Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'nokia-n900-configs' : No package(s) available to install | 17:00 |
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| Sage | some daily/weekly snapshots are still missing some n900 packages | 17:05 |
| Sage | Add the meego 1.0 repository after the last repository to your .ks file so mic will take missing packages from that repo if not found from the other repos. | 17:06 |
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| CosmoHill | wtf, I got into the back garden to find out that dad's cut a tree down | 17:58 |
| gour1 | ? | 18:00 |
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| CosmoHill | We have trees in our back garden | 18:01 |
| CosmoHill | dad's most of the way through cutting one down | 18:01 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, its fathers day, we do manly things today | 18:05 |
| lcuk | go and offer him a brew or somethin | 18:05 |
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| DawnFoster | happy father's day, guys! | 18:06 |
| * lcuk fixed jakes bike | 18:06 | |
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| lcuk | :D thanks DawnFoster | 18:06 |
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| * thiago_home will spend Father's Day with his dad, in August | 18:06 | |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: i didn't know you had kids | 18:09 |
| CosmoHill | happy father's day dads | 18:10 |
| * lcuk has 2 | 18:10 | |
| * CosmoHill has none :( | 18:10 | |
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| xDaReaperx | really ? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=cache:http://wiki.meego.com/BananasandPears | 19:20 |
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| thinker_ | Hi.. I am new to MeeGo. I would like to know how to build meego from the source. Is there any document about building meego? I have searched it for a couple days. | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | first off, why would you want to? | 20:57 |
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| thinker_ | I am considering if I should run MeeGo on a new platform. | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | alright, is it a Atom-based board, or ARMv5 or ARMv7? | 21:02 |
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| thinker_ | ARMv7 or MIPS | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, ARMv7 MeeGo is already built for | 21:03 |
| Bostik | and if it's cortext A9, please tell me where you got the hardware from :) | 21:03 |
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| thinker_ | Is there any start point/document for me? | 21:04 |
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| GAN900 | Bostik, Apple? :D | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | thinker_: if you want to try out core meego on a ARMv7 platform, grab the open image for the N900 | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | MIPS, - start a discussion on meego-dev, because I bet you're not the first | 21:05 |
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| thinker_ | I known there are some repositoris for MeeGo at GitHub. But, it seems not all source required by MeeGo at there. Is it right? | 21:09 |
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| Stskeeps | thinker_: repo.meego.com will have all the source RPMs | 21:10 |
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| thinker_ | Stskeeps: thanks you | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | and the OBS prjconfs are in gitorious somewhere | 21:12 |
| amjad | stskeeps, i am thinking of powerpc, but i am not in south africa for this one http://www.linkbook.co.za | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | amjad, thinker_: if i were you, i'd start a discussion on how to in practice do ports to other processors on meego-dev | 21:15 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: I was harsh, but I blame the mood after so many unproductive hours. | 21:26 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i was pretty frustrated with mic2 up to the point it started working ;) | 21:26 |
| Stskeeps | and your experience was partly painted by the fact you used the generic instructions instead of the ARM ones | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | .. i would have written the mail in another tone, but that's just me | 21:28 |
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| * Stskeeps yawns | 21:30 | |
| smoku | well... at least I bothered to describe my MeeGo experience, instead of saying "oh f* this" and moving on ;-) | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | i hope the situation will change at least with regards to our N900 in the next couple of days. regarding the state of mic2 and generic documentation, that's something for the mic2 team and release team | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | our N900 images, that is | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | 'These were removed from the codedrop repos, but are not | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | shared anymore because they share new Handheld UI repo.' | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | this part is wrong - it is just cos they weren't included into trunk yet :) | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | it is annoying the old repos were moved | 21:33 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | yup grrr | 21:33 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | :P | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: can we make an appointment that by next daily image that includes our nokia n900 config files, we try this in either qemu/kqemu fedora vm and with the new .ks'es, the experience should be less shit by then hopefully | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | cos right now we're in a bit of a limbo until Trunk opens for commits again thursday | 21:36 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Process#The_iterative_development_model_-_weekly_cycles | 21:36 |
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| smoku | frankly I would not touch this .ks crap anymore | 21:48 |
| smoku | I'm looking now how to build the image manually and script it | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough - just offering | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | let me just drag out some docs i have on that.. you might be able to get something working with that | 21:49 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: there's a large bunch of data relating to perception of project from potential community members (maemo.org people), http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=55913 - not sure if you read it yet. gets a bit depressing at times but it illustrates pretty well some (perceived? practical?) issues surrounding MeeGo i guess | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | 32 pagesa | 23:11 |
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| Stskeeps | it is initially more consumer oriented but turns into a meego discussion | 23:12 |
| * Stskeeps just looks forward to this month being over. | 23:13 | |
| CosmoHill | how so? | 23:14 |
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| Stskeeps | handset ux's supposed to be out in june, i believe | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | ah okay | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | this month has been a good month so far | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | may was basically coursework and revision | 23:14 |
| * Stskeeps is planning to spend a week in a row getting drunk, in approximately a week. | 23:15 | |
| Stskeeps | should recharge me for the coming summer | 23:15 |
| CosmoHill | my friend plans to have 21 pints on his 21st birthday | 23:15 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: thanks for plugging away | 23:15 |
| Stskeeps | not sure i understand that expression | 23:16 |
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| Stskeeps | ah | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: just wondering, what's your day job? | 23:17 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: maemo.org distmaster and n900 hardware adaptation team member | 23:17 |
| Stskeeps | (not kidding) | 23:17 |
| CosmoHill | ah yes, i think i remember something from the who's who page | 23:17 |
| CosmoHill | have a cookie | 23:18 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: I just wish people didn't have tunnel vision or tries to glorify the past | 23:19 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: The past sucked. MeeGo's *Nokia* learning from it. Unfortunately, one doesn't get the sense that MeeGo is learning from maemo.org. | 23:21 |
| Stskeeps | i think it is in a lot of ways, especially in the fact that the emphasis of having a working community | 23:22 |
| Stskeeps | as in, a community doing work, working on a product, governing and impacting a producct | 23:22 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: True. | 23:23 |
| Jaffa | Although, has the kernel process been published yet? :-) | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | cos that was really shit in maemo.org - nokia was in charge and there was only fringe semi-managed projects | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | don't get me started on kernel process, you know my opinion :P | 23:23 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: And one of the key stakeholders is still working on a big reveal; and the other did their own prototype tablet UI which (AFAICT) isn't open either ;-) | 23:23 |
| Jaffa | qgil's right - most people who've been into Maemo will be able to get into MeeGo more when there's something more tangible. | 23:24 |
| Jaffa | But there are a few who, well, y'know. Not going into rant mode here, got an MWKN to edit. | 23:25 |
| Stskeeps | i'm personally discouraged by the state of the community atm, as i can't do any initiatives without severe toxicity from people | 23:26 |
| Stskeeps | (maemo.org that is) | 23:26 |
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| Stskeeps | right, time to sleep | 23:27 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas Stskeeps | 23:27 |
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| * CosmoHill wonders what age Cyruss1989 is | 23:28 | |
| Cyruss1989 | lol | 23:28 |
| Cyruss1989 | could someone help me with an installation? installed openoffice, but it does not appear in the list | 23:29 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 23:29 |
| Cyruss1989 | hi btw | 23:29 |
| CosmoHill | did you install it via the package manager? | 23:29 |
| Cyruss1989 | no i used this: cd ~/Downloads tar -xvzf OOo_3.2.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm-wJRE_de.tar.gz cd OOO320_m18_native_packed-1_de.9502 chmod +x setup sudo ./setup | 23:30 |
| Cyruss1989 | i am a total newbie | 23:30 |
| CosmoHill | hmm | 23:31 |
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| Cyruss1989 | seemed allright, but nothing has appeared ;) | 23:31 |
| CosmoHill | do you know the install path? | 23:31 |
| Cyruss1989 | nope dont think i do | 23:32 |
| CosmoHill | ls /opt | 23:32 |
| Cyruss1989 | there is just a googlefolder | 23:32 |
| lardman | hey Jaffa, Stskeeps | 23:35 |
| CosmoHill | Cyruss1989: open terminal and type "ls /opt" | 23:35 |
| lardman | re Meego, yeah I think a lot of people, me included, are waiting to see what happens | 23:35 |
| lardman | the vast wait until the latest PR in Maemo didn't help, as people (like me) waited, and waited, etc., and it's then hard to get back to it | 23:36 |
| lardman | especially when it wasn't all that exciting when it turned up in the end ;) | 23:37 |
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| Jaffa | lardman: Some of the tmo crowd imagined it'd be like the Second Coming, or something | 23:38 |
| lardman | Well I did hope for more exciting stuff after such a long wait :) | 23:39 |
| lardman | but being a realist didn't expect it, knowing it was only a bug-fix | 23:39 |
| lardman | tmo is far far too noisy now, shame really as when I get the time to read through there are some interesting threads there | 23:40 |
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| lardman | just too time consuming separating wheat from chaff and all that | 23:40 |
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| lardman | on that note, bed time as my wife's car has died so I have to drop her off; night all | 23:44 |
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| korgoth | hello meegos | 23:45 |
| korgoth | :) | 23:46 |
| Cyruss1989 | Hi | 23:47 |
| pinchartl | Jaffa: I share the feeling that the current situation looks a bit unorganized, but I (at least for now :-)) have some faith in the project | 23:48 |
| korgoth | umm, will meego run on nokia n810? | 23:48 |
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| Stskeeps | korgoth: already does. no promises on ux's | 23:51 |
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| pinchartl | Stskeeps: weren't you supposed to have gone to bed ? :-) | 23:52 |
| Stskeeps | pinchartl: n900 is an enemy of sleep | 23:52 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: you're in bed and still on irc? | 23:53 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: The incessant vibrate when you get an email, eh? ;-) | 23:53 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: ssh is great | 23:53 |
| CosmoHill | lol | 23:53 |
| pinchartl | Stskeeps: don't tell me. I should be in bed too :-) | 23:53 |
| * Jaffa 's finishing this cuppa and then bedding. Without N900 (it's, unsurprisingly, on charge) | 23:54 | |
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| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: irsse + screen + ssh? | 23:59 |
| Stskeeps | bingo | 23:59 |
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