| DawnFoster | it's really a community management function | 00:00 |
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| DawnFoster | not where all of the community activity takes place | 00:00 |
| trixtur | lcuk: I mostly use webapps, I haven't really installed any MeeGo Apps | 00:00 |
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| lcuk | what games are on it? | 00:00 |
| DawnFoster | ideally, to help people get involved in various aspects of the project | 00:00 |
| trixtur | lcuk: I don't know | 00:00 |
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| lcuk | nothing preinstalled? | 00:00 |
| trixtur | lcuk: never cared to look...I don't play games | 00:00 |
| trixtur | or if I do I play them online | 00:01 |
| trixtur | just like I use Google Office for everything office-wise | 00:01 |
| lcuk | sure, its common now, but not always practical | 00:01 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: agreed | 00:01 |
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| trixtur | lcuk: maybe...but M$ has an online version of office now too' | 00:02 |
| lcuk | anyone else got any impressions of meego? are there games on the default install? | 00:02 |
| lcuk | trixtur, doesnt help do work on plane or abroad | 00:02 |
| trixtur | Actually they have offline apps to handle that issue | 00:03 |
| trixtur | I like the fact that it is Linux at the core | 00:03 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: there are some games installed on the meego netbook version | 00:03 |
| DawnFoster | I never play them :) | 00:03 |
| trixtur | I'm a developer so for me its handly | 00:03 |
| lcuk | are they any good dawn? | 00:04 |
| DawnFoster | haven't even tried them *ashamed to say* | 00:04 |
| lcuk | trixtur, do you have a blog? | 00:04 |
| trixtur | lcuk: sorry I wasn't more helpful on your question. | 00:04 |
| lcuk | and have you posted anything about your meegoing | 00:04 |
| trixtur | yeah | 00:04 |
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| Stskeeps | so, if we see MeeGo as a sort of virtual company doing a product.. what'd community office be? the people who make sure people can contribute and providing means and ways to extend the company with new and exciting areas? | 00:04 |
| DawnFoster | I'm addicted to that tetris blocks game on the n900 tho :) | 00:04 |
| lcuk | trixtur, not at all :) nice to chat with real users ;) | 00:04 |
| trixtur | um...no I haven't posted anything about MeeGo | 00:04 |
| thiago_home | HR | 00:04 |
| lcuk | lol DawnFoster its great | 00:05 |
| * lcuk plays chess quite often | 00:05 | |
| lcuk | nice and simple and timeless | 00:05 |
| trixtur | lcuk: I told a friend of mine about it who lives in Florida. He installed it and is loving it as well... but he is another developer type | 00:05 |
| GAN900 | I guess we need to write up a council proposal for MeeGo at some point. | 00:05 |
| DawnFoster | stskeeps: that's a good question, and I'm not sure how to answer it. | 00:06 |
| trixtur | its great for social networking sites...keeps them all well organized and such | 00:06 |
| Stskeeps | because what i'm at least seeing from where i'm standing, is the company being built up with QA departments, managers, and all that jazz :) | 00:06 |
| DawnFoster | GAN900: the point is that if we do this right, we don't need a community council | 00:06 |
| GAN900 | DawnFoster, so you say | 00:06 |
| DawnFoster | GAN900: we get those people involved directly in the project. | 00:07 |
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| GAN900 | Personally, I'm not in agreement | 00:07 |
| DawnFoster | but we need people to contribute and earn those roles | 00:07 |
| DawnFoster | that's the biggest gap right now | 00:07 |
| GAN900 | But I think it's a function of definitions | 00:07 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: lots of companies have a community management function. | 00:07 |
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| GAN900 | You never answered my earlier question about what role you perceive the Maemo Community Council as filling. | 00:07 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: :nod: | 00:08 |
| axel_ | Can anybody help me with the mic-image-creator command, please? | 00:08 |
| timeless_mbp | ? | 00:08 |
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| DawnFoster | I agreed with your definition (for Maemo) - to provide a conduit between Nokia and the community to represent outside interests. | 00:09 |
| DawnFoster | If we can get those people to earn official roles within the project, they can work from within and not as a separate entity | 00:09 |
| GAN900 | DawnFoster, that's not the only function, though. | 00:10 |
| GAN900 | Nor is it the primary function | 00:11 |
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| GAN900 | Having an elected body also helps to alleviate some of the cronyism and corporate favoritism of the "merit" system, too. | 00:11 |
| Stskeeps | company merit of actually pushing a product out and delivering is merit, even if it was transferred and seen as direct contributions in the open | 00:12 |
| GAN900 | Personally, though, I think the parts of the Maemo Community that are currently not likely to be covered by meego.com (non-developmen contributors) should be. | 00:12 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't neglect the people who do actually have talents | 00:12 |
| GAN900 | Which increases the need for a body like the council | 00:12 |
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| DawnFoster | In any open source project, there are a lot of ways for developers and non-developers to contribute | 00:13 |
| DawnFoster | again, look at localization | 00:13 |
| GAN900 | Which increases the need for a body like the council | 00:13 |
| GAN900 | There are very few major Maemo Community contributors who didn't start out as users | 00:13 |
| GAN900 | Oops | 00:13 |
| Stskeeps | GAN900: yes, but there's several areas for people to help out in | 00:14 |
| Stskeeps | ie, moving from user to developer to .. | 00:14 |
| GAN900 | And I think losing that evolution path would be unfortunate. | 00:14 |
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| GAN900 | which you will do if the whole of the community is focused on platform development. | 00:14 |
| DawnFoster | localization is part of the project structure, not something separate | 00:14 |
| Stskeeps | GAN900: i still don't see the problem. pioneer areas where there's work that's obvious has to be done | 00:15 |
| DawnFoster | the community right now is more focused on platform development because that is a prerequisite to getting something out to the users | 00:15 |
| DawnFoster | you are looking at a work in progress | 00:15 |
| GAN900 | Clearly | 00:15 |
| DawnFoster | the focus will not be forever only on platform development | 00:15 |
| DawnFoster | right now, there are few users, because we have little for them to use | 00:16 |
| GAN900 | Stskeeps, there's an awful lot of stop motion, though. | 00:16 |
| DawnFoster | this will change soon. | 00:16 |
| DawnFoster | there will be a huge focus on application development very soon | 00:16 |
| DawnFoster | and we are starting to focus more on users | 00:16 |
| lcuk | does Wine work on meego? is there packages | 00:16 |
| trixtur | lcuk: are you thinking of running games on a netbook? | 00:17 |
| lcuk | why not? | 00:17 |
| trixtur | LOL | 00:17 |
| lcuk | i play stuff on my x41 and x200 | 00:17 |
| trixtur | netbooks are weak sauce | 00:18 |
| lcuk | cpu at 600 and 800mhz respectively | 00:18 |
| trixtur | not really for games | 00:18 |
| g00fy | netbooks aren't that weak! | 00:18 |
| trixtur | fair enough | 00:18 |
| lcuk | i dont want wine for games tho | 00:18 |
| lcuk | i want visual basic | 00:18 |
| g00fy | I'm using mine for life dj performances | 00:18 |
| trixtur | lcuk: why not use Mono | 00:18 |
| lcuk | because thats not what i want | 00:18 |
| trixtur | hmm | 00:18 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: on a sidenote.. where would we be pointing people who want to participate in netbook ux development? like, netbook projects in meego, not their upstreams | 00:18 |
| lcuk | no hmm, i have a lot of code in vb that i sometimes need to run | 00:19 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: that was asked on the ML a while ago, wasn't it? | 00:19 |
| * w00t_ never saw an answer | 00:19 | |
| lcuk | would scratchbox work on meego? | 00:19 |
| timeless_mbp | scratchbox is evi | 00:19 |
| timeless_mbp | evil | 00:19 |
| lcuk | maybe so | 00:19 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: what type of ux development? | 00:20 |
| w00t_ | right | 00:20 |
| w00t_ | [MeeGo-dev] Roadmap/Schedule for 1.1 ? | 00:20 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: well, let's say, i want to contribute to one of the panels, for example the network panel | 00:20 |
| w00t_ | not specifically code | 00:20 |
| w00t_ | but still, not answered | 00:21 |
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| Stskeeps | .. it's really a hypothetical question, because another problem we have is that well, we can't always answer these kind of questions (how, where and who) | 00:21 |
| Stskeeps | gitorious is one answer, but that is just when it comes to it, a code repository | 00:22 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: I'm guessing you would start by discussing your idea on the mailing list to validate that it's aligned with the project, architecture, etc. | 00:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 00:22 |
| DawnFoster | then submit a patch | 00:22 |
| w00t_ | there: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.meego.devel/2494 | 00:22 |
| Stskeeps | i think the roadmap should help that area a lot | 00:22 |
| Stskeeps | / requirements | 00:22 |
| DawnFoster | assuming the idea was a good one | 00:22 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: is there a roadmap? :) | 00:22 |
| Stskeeps | w00t_: will be, go see site | 00:22 |
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| DawnFoster | I thought we had a roadmap published *looking* | 00:23 |
| w00t_ | there is http://meego.com/developers/meego-roadmap.. but it's not really what i'd call a roadmap | 00:23 |
| w00t_ | to quote: "it will be developed with a process that is currently beng setup" | 00:24 |
| Stskeeps | my main point being, when there is a structure visible in mailing lists, clear spaces where people can see 'oh, this is where i have to contribute' and so on, it is difficult to make areas beyond platform development | 00:24 |
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| * w00t_ wonders where that setup is going on | 00:24 | |
| Stskeeps | err, when there is = until there is | 00:24 |
| lcuk | cyas later, theres code waiting for me | 00:25 |
| Stskeeps | at that point people can seperate product development to what is commonly needed to make the project run smoothly, like general community initiatives, etc | 00:25 |
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| DawnFoster | well, the project structure was just defined last week | 00:25 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 00:25 |
| tripzero | Stskeeps, so you want a "help wanted" document? | 00:25 |
| DawnFoster | people are just now starting to get in their roles | 00:25 |
| tripzero | or a "these are the gaps" ? | 00:25 |
| DawnFoster | and get their processes set up | 00:26 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: not complaining - am really happy about that :) it's just to see the root of why there might not be so much community involvement/areas being developed | 00:26 |
| DawnFoster | release engineering has been doing a great job of getting things documented | 00:26 |
| DawnFoster | I've been encouraging other teams to follow their example | 00:26 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 00:26 |
| pupnik | do any of you use UML for project planning? | 00:26 |
| DawnFoster | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering | 00:27 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 00:27 |
| w00t_ | DawnFoster: i'm not sure if it's just irc, but i'm detecting a bit of defensiveness.. don't think there's a need for it, since there's no criticism of what's going on, just questions seeking answers :) | 00:27 |
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| DawnFoster | stskeeps: exactly. I've also been encouraging people to start putting together to do lists | 00:27 |
| Stskeeps | great job at that :) | 00:27 |
| DawnFoster | not getting defensive | 00:27 |
| DawnFoster | just trying to clarify and help share what I know | 00:28 |
| w00t_ | OK, just checking | 00:28 |
| w00t_ | don't want to be putting you on the wrong footing | 00:28 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: and thanks for doing that | 00:28 |
| DawnFoster | Ideally, I want project owners to start having to do lists of what needs to be done, but that they haven't started yet | 00:28 |
| Stskeeps | which reminds me i should probably help document some more stuff on our ARM/N900 pages.. | 00:28 |
| DawnFoster | it gives people a place to see where they can help | 00:28 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: maybe a guide to 'So you just became nominated, what do we expect of you from the community office side..' ;) | 00:29 |
| DawnFoster | w00t_ no worries - thanks for checking :) | 00:29 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps - exactly! | 00:29 |
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| * w00t_ expects Stskeeps to part the red sea | 00:29 | |
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| pupnik | he already did with Mer | 00:30 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm really missing some terms to describe company functions that kind of take care of everything that goes around the product development and the product itself | 00:33 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, we have development, management .. and then the ether around it :P | 00:33 |
| w00t_ | development, management, marketing, sales, menial help | 00:34 |
| w00t_ | (the last category covers GAN900 perfectly IMO ;)) | 00:34 |
| Stskeeps | HR is a term that evokes mental pictures of catbert, but it isn't far from it.. | 00:35 |
| w00t_ | and what is wrong with catbert, I must ask? | 00:35 |
| w00t_ | keeps people on their toes, after all.. :) | 00:35 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: oh! also: finance trolls :P | 00:35 |
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| DawnFoster | and where does Dogbert fit in :) | 00:37 |
| Stskeeps | i think community office's proudest role is to have a sort of vertical role which makes sure the project culture is kept and people are able to join in and contribute and help paving paths and possibly being incubator for new initiatives that haven't yet found a home.. | 00:37 |
| Stskeeps | or something :) | 00:37 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: I always see something like the community office as the grease on the wheels | 00:38 |
| w00t_ | the mentors, the facilitators | 00:38 |
| * Stskeeps should probably sleep, been a hectic day with a lot of meetings | 00:38 | |
| DawnFoster | and speaking of cats, we try to herd them :) | 00:38 |
| w00t_ | right, exactly | 00:39 |
| w00t_ | cat herders | 00:39 |
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| DawnFoster | stskeeps - thanks for all of the input & bouncing ideas around. I really appreciate it | 00:39 |
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| DawnFoster | (now get some sleep!) | 00:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 00:40 |
| Stskeeps | also, http://wiki.meego.com/BananasandPears is a darn long wiki page :) | 00:40 |
| DawnFoster | yeah - I was just talking to someone about that :) | 00:40 |
| DawnFoster | I'm thinking that we should break it down into separate pages | 00:41 |
| * w00t_ notes 'comes with ovi' and grumbles about Ovi's *lack* of APIs.. | 00:41 | |
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| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 00:41 |
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| CosmoHill | night tr | 00:41 |
| GAN900 | w00t_, better than you know. . . . | 00:41 |
| CosmoHill | night trem | 00:42 |
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| * GAN900 doesn't know how the council ended up the group of people doing all the work. :P | 00:43 | |
| w00t_ | true meritocracy | 00:43 |
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| satmd | sounds like food to me | 00:45 |
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| lbt | anyone here got prj create rights on meego.gitorious.org ? | 00:46 |
| Stskeeps | usually it goes through bugzilla | 00:47 |
| Stskeeps | which reminds me i need to hand over meego-device-adaptation | 00:47 |
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| lbt | DawnFoster: any comments on the community OBS... | 00:50 |
| DawnFoster | I think we need to figure out the proprietary stuff | 00:51 |
| DawnFoster | as a Linux Foundation project, that gets really tricky | 00:51 |
| lbt | is it being discussed? | 00:51 |
| DawnFoster | right now, I need to get out of IRC and finish up some other work | 00:51 |
| DawnFoster | not sure | 00:51 |
| DawnFoster | I hope so. | 00:51 |
| lbt | I just wonder why it's not being discussed in the open on the ml | 00:52 |
| Stskeeps | well, it is a complex issue | 00:52 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: nb, you should sync up with x-fade and tero in the morning probably | 00:52 |
| lbt | the irony of discussing whether to allow non-open things into an open project... and having the discussion behind closed doors.... | 00:52 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: at about 7am my time... yep | 00:52 |
| Stskeeps | k | 00:53 |
| lbt | Tero is now in JFDI mode ;) | 00:53 |
| DawnFoster | I don't know that any discussion is happening right now, so let's not assume its behind closed doors | 00:53 |
| DawnFoster | people are busy and working on other things (like the june release we keep promising) most likely :) | 00:53 |
| pupnik | some well written text/ideas/goals on BananasandPears | 00:53 |
| lbt | DawnFoster: sorry... crabby mood after the almost total disinterest in the subject and the issues it raises. | 00:53 |
| pupnik | such documents help people focus on goals | 00:53 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: I don't think it's disinterest - everyone is so busy right now. | 00:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: my email says '1 day ago' it was sent :P | 00:54 |
| DawnFoster | I'm having a really hard time getting everything done | 00:54 |
| DawnFoster | and I know others are in a similar situation | 00:54 |
| pupnik | "Confirm vs. Cancel" was interesting | 00:54 |
| lbt | yeah... I guess I'm just a bit stressed over other stuff... ignore me until I'm cheerful again ;) | 00:55 |
| * Stskeeps passes lbt some tea | 00:55 | |
| * lbt breathes deeply | 00:55 | |
| DawnFoster | lbt: I suspect that other things need to get done first, so people are putting the other OBS stuff off a bit. | 00:55 |
| DawnFoster | take a few deep breaths | 00:55 |
| DawnFoster | :) | 00:55 |
| DawnFoster | we'll get there. | 00:55 |
| lbt | DawnFoster: well, we're meeting in the morning about it | 00:56 |
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| DawnFoster | oh, good | 00:56 |
| DawnFoster | on irc? | 00:56 |
| lbt | yes | 00:56 |
| DawnFoster | coo | 00:56 |
| DawnFoster | cool | 00:56 |
| lbt | 0600 UTC | 00:56 |
| lbt | I kinda worked hard to get something out to get some response as I knew we'd have a get together at the tail end of the week | 00:57 |
| lbt | Still, no objections eh? :D | 00:57 |
| lbt | and my BOSS stuff is finally coming together so that's good | 00:57 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's a more tangible topic once something is ready so it's a matter of legal rubberstamping - have you raised it with the maemo.org crowd on if they even want to dual build? | 00:57 |
| lbt | Jaffa circulated it and got lots of yeses | 00:58 |
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| lbt | I suppose w00t_ is right ... what is there to say other than "sure" | 00:59 |
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| w00t_ | lbt: i'll read and maybe try come up with more of a response soon | 01:01 |
| w00t_ | not had time yet | 01:01 |
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| w00t_ | but really yes, it does sound great, and tbh quite desirable | 01:01 |
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| pupnik_ | http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php Iron: Google Chrome without the spyware? | 01:17 |
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| Wolfsheim | Hello, anyone know the situation with 3g internet ? | 02:03 |
| Wolfsheim | will it resolve itself with a kernel update? | 02:04 |
| pupnik_ | what is not working Wolfsheim? netbook or mobile meego? | 02:05 |
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| Wolfsheim | its 3g internet on the netbook version of meego | 02:09 |
| Wolfsheim | its a HUAWEI E160G USB 3G Modem | 02:10 |
| Wolfsheim | pretty much need it for internet access at the moment so I can't use Meego at all until its supported. | 02:10 |
| Wolfsheim | as far as I can see theres no way of connecting with it | 02:11 |
| pupnik_ | could be | 02:11 |
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| pupnik_ | have you used the huawai in another linux Wolfsheim ? | 02:12 |
| Wolfsheim | yeah its working fine on Ubuntu 10.04, which im using right now | 02:12 |
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| Wolfsheim | so im guessing its a kernel issue | 02:13 |
| Wolfsheim | ive looked on the forums and the wiki and couldnt see any mention of it | 02:15 |
| pupnik_ | look for other USB adapters | 02:15 |
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| Wolfsheim | from what I can tell it should be supported by the next release | 02:17 |
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| tekojo | lbt X-Fade Stskeeps here? | 09:25 |
| lbt | sure. | 09:25 |
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| poutsi | anybody know why I can't install cross-armv7l-gcc into a meego-sdk-0524 chroot? | 10:10 |
| poutsi | it complains about libgomp being too new by a couple of fractions | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, grab the one from 1.0 repo? | 10:14 |
| poutsi | oh, are the chroot's repos set to something else? | 10:15 |
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| poutsi | nah... the cross gcc at 4.4.2-2.3 lags behing gcc which in turn is in sync with libgomp, both at 4.4.2-12.13 | 10:25 |
| poutsi | suspiciously similar versions :p | 10:25 |
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| Stskeeps | poke dl9pf_ | 10:25 |
| poutsi | I wonder if it will asplode if I just force it | 10:25 |
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| msian_tux_lover | can someone assist...what is the passwd for root in meego...I cannot sudo su and key in meego | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | meego, probably | 10:44 |
| msian_tux_lover | Stskeeps, doesnt work... | 10:44 |
| msian_tux_lover | I installed from USB stcik | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | su, not sudo su | 10:45 |
| msian_tux_lover | Stskeeps, doesnt work as well | 10:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hm, ok | 10:46 |
| msian_tux_lover | any ideas? | 10:46 |
| nextime | meego use grub as bootloader? just boot with init=/bin/sh in kernel command line, remount your fs in read-write and change your root password | 10:47 |
| nextime | :) | 10:47 |
| msian_tux_lover | nextime, haha...I edited the grub line and put in "single" at the end of the stanza | 10:48 |
| msian_tux_lover | changed the passwd | 10:48 |
| msian_tux_lover | nextime, thank you much for your reply | 10:48 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:48 |
| msian_tux_lover | Jaffa, :) | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | morn jaffa | 10:50 |
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| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 11:08 |
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| slaine | morn Stskeeps | 11:15 |
| slaine | you back home yet ? | 11:15 |
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| Stskeeps | nop, still up north | 11:15 |
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| Trollkar1en | darix: Are you /users | 11:51 |
| Trollkar1en | ops | 11:52 |
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| dl9pf_ | Stskeeps: pong | 12:11 |
| dl9pf_ | poutsi: reading backlog | 12:11 |
| dl9pf_ | ok, it seems like the versions on the repo were mixed | 12:12 |
| dl9pf_ | could you retry an set the repositories to builds/../trunk/daily/core/ | 12:12 |
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| poutsi | dl9pf_, alright, trying | 12:17 |
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| poutsi | now it blew up in a different way :) but I guess I should update everything from daily and try again | 12:29 |
| poutsi | Problem: nothing provides cpp = 4.4.2-1.2 needed by cross-armv7l-gcc-4.4.2-1.2.i586 | 12:29 |
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| poutsi | dl9pf_, I updated to daily and I get the error above | 14:32 |
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| slaine | FunkyPenguin: are the graphics in the mutter-moblin-branding-upstream rpm ? | 15:32 |
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| FunkyPenguin | slaine, not heard of that package, but i'll have a look - thanks | 15:40 |
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| FunkyPenguin | ok so where does mutter-moblin-branding hide? cant find it in repo.meego.com | 15:43 |
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| slaine | FunkyPenguin: it's gernerated by the mutter-moblin source rpm it seems | 15:46 |
| slaine | at leats, when I did yumdownload --source on it, it gave me mutter-moblin | 15:46 |
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| slaine | pippin, what was the details on that clutter app we spoke about before, the one you made for building a scene etc. | 15:49 |
| slaine | want to try it out on my meego install | 15:49 |
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| FunkyPenguin | slaine, hmm, i'll need to check my spec then - thanks | 15:56 |
| pippin | slaine: git://git.clutter-project.org/cluttersmith.git | 15:56 |
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| slaine | pippin: sweet, thanks | 15:58 |
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| Stskeeps | for the Hildon coders interested in MeeGo: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-June/003201.html | 16:02 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: nice | 16:02 |
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| npouillard | Hi, I've downloaded the SDK and chrooted it, but I don't know the name of the UI that I should run/install? | 16:08 |
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| npouillard | I see that my question is pretty noob, but I'm looking at the wiki/docs and can't find a page describing how to start the main UI | 16:12 |
| Vortiago | startmeego | 16:13 |
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| Vortiago | http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux#Run_the_Simulator npouillard, that part there | 16:14 |
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| npouillard | Vortiago: Ok, I've already done that actually | 16:16 |
| * npouillard has a NVIDIA card... | 16:16 | |
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| npouillard | Vortiago: The DISPLAY=:2 glxgears worked fine | 16:18 |
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| npouillard | The startmeego command is not supposed to end up on a black screen right ? | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | afternoon dneary | 16:22 |
| dneary | hi Stskeeps | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | dneary: sent an initial proof of concept build of hildon on meego mail to meego-dev and mobile-devel-list | 16:23 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, I was having a chat earlier & a question came up I hope you might be able to answer | 16:23 |
| dneary | cool! | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 16:23 |
| dneary | the question is: if I want to start developing a Qt application for meego handset now, what can I do? | 16:24 |
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| chem|st | when does meego start to be open source? and I do not mean the damn code? | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | as far as i know, same thing as if you'd develop one towards fremantle | 16:24 |
| dneary | Use meego netbook as a base & port to the handset UX when it's out? | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | for instance - or make a qt app for m5 | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | .. as far as i know. | 16:25 |
| dneary | Fremantle has the scratchbox SDK to work with - is there an equiv. for meego yet? I'm not aware of it | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | no, not yet - there's a application SDK in progress | 16:25 |
| dneary | ok | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | ie, MADDE and all those friends, there's some stuff on wiki | 16:26 |
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| dneary | I'm still a bit confused about madde | 16:27 |
| dneary | is madde going to be the only official SDK for MeeGo? | 16:27 |
| dneary | It's not usable for fremantle yet, is it? | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's a seperation between platform and application sdk, at least | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.1_Application_SDK_Project_Plan | 16:28 |
| jarkko^ | isn't nokia qt sdk already using madde for compilation? haven't checked since i'm still using sbox1 for everything :) | 16:28 |
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| poutsi | yes it is | 16:31 |
| jarkko^ | cool | 16:31 |
| sx0n | it's quite complex issue still | 16:32 |
| sx0n | meegotouch uses sb1 afaik | 16:33 |
| pupnik | interesting development thread: using plain QT versus handset meego-touch-framework http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=524 | 16:33 |
| jarkko^ | and what's the major difference between obs and madde and why are they both needed? :) | 16:34 |
| pupnik | afaik, Madde is your development environment with all the happy qt-stuff, and it will eventually get happy buttons to submit to OBS | 16:34 |
| poutsi | and isn't obs more about building whole systems then | 16:35 |
| pupnik | everything is part of the whole system, no? | 16:36 |
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| albertonan | hi | 16:37 |
| albertonan | i have a question | 16:38 |
| poutsi | well, bash for example is part of lots of systems | 16:38 |
| poutsi | and not all those systems are built with obs | 16:38 |
| sx0n | http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service | 16:38 |
| poutsi | I was just grasping for some explanation for jarkko^ :) | 16:38 |
| albertonan | can i run meego on my Toshiba A300? | 16:38 |
| sx0n | madde is imo more like "access point for ides" and obs is more like set of generic tools? | 16:39 |
| sx0n | can i be more wrong.. | 16:39 |
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| albertonan | hello? | 16:40 |
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| pupnik | albertonan: i don't know | 16:40 |
| pupnik | can you? | 16:41 |
| sx0n | http://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms | 16:41 |
| pupnik | see system requirements | 16:41 |
| albertonan | i want to install meego on portatil | 16:41 |
| albertonan | i have intel pentium dual core | 16:42 |
| albertonan | will it run? | 16:42 |
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| jarkko^ | after reading some wiki pages i get the idea that while madde cross-compilation toolchain for local use and obs is kind of "cloud service" for building large amounts of packages :) | 16:42 |
| jarkko^ | -typos | 16:43 |
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| albertonan | it isnt a netbook | 16:43 |
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| albertonan | hello??? | 16:44 |
| albertonan | mi pc isnt a netbook | 16:44 |
| albertonan | can meego run in it' | 16:44 |
| albertonan | ? | 16:44 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | albertonan: the Meego for Netbooks, can only run on Netbooks with Intel Atom Nxxx series CPUs with Intel GPUs. | 16:44 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | albertonan: this has been written in the documentation and all over the website. | 16:45 |
| jarkko^ | if it supports SSE3 instructions, has intel GPU, i guess it will run | 16:45 |
| albertonan | is intel | 16:45 |
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| albertonan | suport sse3 | 16:45 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | that's ssse3 | 16:45 |
| albertonan | i ok | 16:46 |
| jarkko^ | oops forgot one s :) | 16:46 |
| jarkko^ | but anyway, core 2 duo has ssse3 support | 16:46 |
| albertonan | ok | 16:46 |
| jarkko^ | it runs atleast on my dell e6400 without issues | 16:46 |
| albertonan | so, it wil run | 16:47 |
| Norgs_ | Of the 2 downloads on the main page, does | 16:47 |
| Norgs_ | The | 16:47 |
| Norgs_ | Second one simply | 16:47 |
| jarkko^ | core 2 duo, x4500 gpu etc. | 16:47 |
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| albertonan | ok | 16:47 |
| Norgs_ | Simply include chrome also? | 16:47 |
| albertonan | i am downloadin with chrome | 16:47 |
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| albertonan | is meego good or is only to pass the time? | 16:49 |
| albertonan | are programs? | 16:49 |
| albertonan | what i can do with it? | 16:49 |
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| * TSCHAKeee2 loves it when people come in with informed questions | 16:49 | |
| jarkko^ | albertonan: practically nothing if you are not interested either (a) developing for it or (b) developing it | 16:50 |
| albertonan | ok | 16:51 |
| sx0n | albertonan, it's linux. | 16:51 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | albertonan: it's mostly centered towards internet activities, right now, things are very bare, it does everything i need it to at present. It's linux, so you can copy stuff over and install it (fedora 12 packages work okay, provided you have the appropriate dependencies) | 16:51 |
| pupnik | jarkko^: can you add to | 16:51 |
| pupnik | http://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms | 16:52 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | albertonan: but yes, right now, any MeeGo specific apps are still being developed. | 16:52 |
| Norgs_ | If you wanna play with some light weight os for your laptop maybe try chromeos Hexxeh build. | 16:52 |
| jarkko^ | pupnik: ok, i can do that | 16:52 |
| pupnik | hmm no we can't | 16:52 |
| pupnik | at least i can't | 16:52 |
| albertonan | i have tried chrome os | 16:53 |
| jarkko^ | pupnik: me neither :) | 16:53 |
| * nextime instead of chromeos also suggest xpud => www.xpud.org | 16:53 | |
| sx0n | it would be nice to have some information about toolchain/sdk mess in wiki. | 16:54 |
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| albertonan | how i can develomp for meego? | 16:56 |
| sx0n | there is lot of nice diagrams how to hardware process works but not actually what it has enabled. | 16:56 |
| sx0n | albertonan, there sdk for it. | 16:56 |
| albertonan | ok | 16:56 |
| albertonan | where are the sdk? | 16:56 |
| sx0n | http://meego.com/developers/getting-started | 16:57 |
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| jarkko^ | pupnik: i created an unofficial page here http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Hardware | 16:57 |
| pupnik | good wok | 16:57 |
| albertonan | if it run on my laptop i wil talk with you | 16:57 |
| albertonan | ;) | 16:57 |
| sx0n | i was one day thinking that we should have validation sw. | 16:58 |
| sx0n | and meego stickers :) | 16:58 |
| Myrtti | neener neener | 16:58 |
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| albertonan | i will do a application for meego | 16:59 |
| albertonan | remember albertonan or cad10 | 17:00 |
| albertonan | ;) | 17:00 |
| jarkko^ | there was already a page for that: http://wiki.meego.com/Devices | 17:01 |
| jarkko^ | didn't notice it | 17:01 |
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| jarkko^ | anyway added e6400 there.. | 17:01 |
| Asteroidy | Salve.. | 17:02 |
| sx0n | jarkko^, wow, you might even run meego in it ;) | 17:04 |
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| jarkko^ | i cleaned up user chapter a bit in main page so that it easier detect that already existing hardware page | 17:05 |
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| sx0n | there might be some unofficially supported hw mentioned in mail threads. | 17:06 |
| pupnik | oops jarkko^ thanks | 17:06 |
| sx0n | i think vbox is probably never going to be supported. | 17:06 |
| Norgs_ | Oh. Sad. | 17:06 |
| pupnik | delete the page eh | 17:07 |
| sx0n | just my guess.. | 17:07 |
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| jarkko^ | only major issue with vbox is that ux requires gpu (ui is clutter based, right?) | 17:09 |
| thiago | netbook is | 17:09 |
| thiago | but the meegotouch-based UIs also require GPU | 17:09 |
| thiago | MeeGo requires OpenGL or OpenGLES | 17:09 |
| thiago | period | 17:10 |
| sx0n | vbox supports opengl. | 17:10 |
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| sx0n | http://www.geeks3d.com/20090621/quick-test-virtualbox-3-0-and-opengl-2-0/ | 17:11 |
| jarkko^ | thiago: where that tight dependency to gl comes from? because of duicompositor? | 17:11 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | among other things | 17:12 |
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| thiago | yes, and the fact that there's a lot of GL code | 17:12 |
| thiago | and choice: we want GL | 17:12 |
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| thiago | software raster isn't going to cut on devices | 17:12 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | and to anyone else who would complain about that.. *thhpppbbbbbbbbbttttttt* :P :) | 17:12 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | no really..yeah.. we have all these mobile devices, with low power CPUs, and GPU accelleration to make things nice...this is what meego is targeting. | 17:13 |
| thiago | of course, we need good GL drivers | 17:13 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | (mobile being a very large term, with some expanded exceptions) | 17:13 |
| thiago | that's where the problem lies | 17:13 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | *nod* | 17:13 |
| jarkko^ | yes i don't care about politics (fine with GL decision) :) just wanted to understand where the tight binding comes from.. qt paint engines themselves are loaded dynamically.. | 17:13 |
| thiago | jarkko^: but not exchangeable at runtime | 17:14 |
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| thiago | jarkko^: and you can use GL without the graphics system | 17:14 |
| jarkko^ | yes i know | 17:14 |
| sx0n | qglwidget? | 17:14 |
| thiago | yes | 17:14 |
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| jarkko^ | yes but anyway the graphics engine is loaded when application starts up for that application | 17:17 |
| thiago | yes | 17:17 |
| jarkko^ | unless core applications mix raw opengl and qpainter together | 17:17 |
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| thiago | my point is that code using QGLWidget directly still needs GL | 17:17 |
| jarkko^ | that should not form tight binding to opengl | 17:17 |
| jarkko^ | (for example by using qglwidget) | 17:17 |
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| jarkko^ | but i guess they do then :) | 17:18 |
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| barroca | hello, i'm trying to recompile moblin-panel-myzone-0.1.32-1.2.src.rpm but it has a dependecy to build called pkg-config(moblin-panel) that i can't solve. Which package provides this dependency? | 17:19 |
| thiago | probably moblin-panel-devel | 17:19 |
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| jarkko^ | there is btw one feature that qt should have in a way or another (does not relate to meego but related to previous discussion) to help to make high performance apps for mobile devices | 17:20 |
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| jarkko^ | if we assume that we are running qt application with -graphicssystem opengl | 17:20 |
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| jarkko^ | there should be a way in application detect that and to be able to create shared GL context with the "main context" | 17:20 |
| sx0n | jarkko^, i don't think that it would be very long term solution to use qglwidget. | 17:21 |
| jarkko^ | this isn't related to that at all | 17:21 |
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| jarkko^ | but generally it would be nice to be able to create opengl context that could texture mapped easily with drawTexture() (for example draw something to fbo) | 17:22 |
| sx0n | jarkko^, i think it's egl that manages shared context | 17:22 |
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| jarkko^ | so? | 17:22 |
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| sx0n | how client can create shared context between others. | 17:23 |
| sx0n | *use | 17:24 |
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| jarkko^ | hmm.. i don't understand but what i mean is that there should be a way to get pointer to the QGLContext of the paint engine :) | 17:25 |
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| barroca | thiago: i | 17:26 |
| barroca | thiago: i'm not sure if the package has this name. | 17:26 |
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| barroca | thiago: the only package with -devel that i've found was the moblin-panel-myzone-devel | 17:29 |
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| Myrtti | COFFEEEE ihihihiihi | 17:32 |
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| albertonan | hi | 17:47 |
| albertonan | i am writting from meego | 17:47 |
| albertonan | it run perfectly | 17:47 |
| albertonan | i have bluetooth and work | 17:47 |
| albertonan | i have wifi and work | 17:48 |
| albertonan | my sound work perfectly | 17:48 |
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| albertonan | my video work perfectly | 17:48 |
| albertonan | i love it | 17:48 |
| thiago | cool | 17:48 |
| albertonan | Toshiba A300 | 17:48 |
| albertonan | not a netbook | 17:48 |
| albertonan | or notebook | 17:49 |
| albertonan | is a laptop | 17:49 |
| albertonan | i am happy | 17:49 |
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| sx0n | albertonan, could you set that configuration into wiki then? | 17:50 |
| albertonan | i dont understant you | 17:51 |
| albertonan | i am not english | 17:51 |
| Myrtti | albertonan: can you document your hardware to the wiki | 17:51 |
| albertonan | ok | 17:52 |
| Myrtti | albertonan: so other people know it works with MeeGo | 17:52 |
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| albertonan | my bluetooth isnt integrated | 17:52 |
| albertonan | is an usb bluetooth | 17:52 |
| sx0n | http://wiki.meego.com/Devices | 17:52 |
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| albertonan | how i name it_ | 17:53 |
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| albertonan | mmm | 17:54 |
| albertonan | i dont like my taskboard | 17:54 |
| albertonan | arent the same symbols | 17:54 |
| albertonan | i have he spanish iso | 17:54 |
| albertonan | how i can change the symbols? | 17:55 |
| sx0n | difficult to say... | 17:56 |
| albertonan | mmm | 17:56 |
| albertonan | where normaly is the ? now is + | 17:57 |
| albertonan | and i want to change it to normal | 17:57 |
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| albertonan | i can do it_ | 17:57 |
| sx0n | you mean keyboard layout? | 17:57 |
| albertonan | yes | 17:58 |
| albertonan | sorry but my english is too poor | 17:58 |
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| albertonan | so i dont know how to explain | 17:59 |
| albertonan | sorry | 17:59 |
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| albertonan | sx0n do you know how i can change it_ | 18:00 |
| sx0n | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_FAQ#How_can_I_change_my_keyboard_layout_after_installation.3F | 18:00 |
| albertonan | thx | 18:01 |
| sx0n | i did not write it... :) | 18:01 |
| albertonan | my webcam run | 18:02 |
| albertonan | too | 18:02 |
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| albertonan | now work perfectly the keyboard layout | 18:04 |
| albertonan | :) | 18:04 |
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| babaandrea | hi all, where can i find som edoc for develop a client for myZone? i would like to insert the message from a social network that is not support. | 18:53 |
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| CosmoHill | there might be something on the wiki about development of apps | 18:57 |
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| tekojo | ping lbt | 19:09 |
| babaandrea | thanks | 19:09 |
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| CosmoHill | hey tekojo | 19:09 |
| tekojo | hello CosmoHill | 19:10 |
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| khaico | Hello | 19:15 |
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| khaico | Meego will be able to get installed in Nokia N8 ? | 19:18 |
| tekojo | khaico: N8 is a Symbian device | 19:19 |
| Xisdibik | he might have ment the N800/810? | 19:21 |
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| khaico | No Xisdibik I didnt ment them :) | 19:22 |
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| Xisdibik | khaico: then see teko's answer ;) | 19:22 |
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| khaico | eh ok , I havent concern with serious mobiles for many years, from when I had Nokia 6600 , so just wondering if i will be able to install this great OS to a phone like nokia n8 (since everyone is blaming Symbian lol) | 19:23 |
| khaico | anyway I got my answer ,thanks :) | 19:24 |
| sivang | khaico: I've actually started a thread on that. It appears this won't be easy but might be possible, with foundation's images perhaps | 19:24 |
| sivang | khaico: where? | 19:24 |
| sivang | khaico: Symbian has been kind to us, it is not polite to blame it :) | 19:24 |
| sivang | to me, at least! | 19:24 |
| khaico | Ofc ,its a great OS , but people Is blaming Symbian , they're telling that is slow (Lol some seconds wont "Eat" all ur life ) but anyway | 19:25 |
| khaico | by the way everything is possible , So I hope people will work to make meego work on phones like that . :] | 19:26 |
| Xisdibik | khaico: you would be surprised how a few seconds over time adds up :P | 19:26 |
| khaico | you think so ? ahha :D | 19:26 |
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| Xisdibik | I dont worry about those few seconds adding up over time | 19:27 |
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| Xisdibik | but its still a substantial amount of time | 19:27 |
| sivang | Xisdibik: I actually appreciate the arrrangement of events in SYmbian, a tiny bit slow at times, | 19:28 |
| sivang | Xisdibik: but everything is notified and presented for you to act in an organnized an predicted manner. | 19:28 |
| sivang | Xisdibik: which is sometimes lacking in Maemo | 19:28 |
| sivang | khaico: I also hope so. I think it'd be great to also try the opposite, for example take S^3 and install it onto an N900 | 19:29 |
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| Xisdibik | sivang: interesting, ive never used symbian so I wouldn't know, i was more generalizing to seconds adding up over life :) | 19:29 |
| khaico | sivang ,seems like you love symbian :D | 19:29 |
| sivang | khaico: using the very lightweight nature of S^3 on such a strong machine comapred to what it is used to run. | 19:30 |
| sivang | khaico: I've gown up with it, so to speak. | 19:30 |
| sivang | *grown | 19:30 |
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| khaico | Well, my first "serious " phone was the nokia 6600 so i started with it too , its great , but never tried any other phone to compare | 19:30 |
| khaico | but seems like this OS is slow , and this wont change very much | 19:31 |
| sivang | khaico: display might sometimes be slow, but input is not missed, so I guess buffering takes place so all your requests are served, with a bit of time. | 19:31 |
| sivang | khaico: you should try N97/mini a smartphone in your button shirt pocket :) | 19:32 |
| khaico | Yes, but when Im watching videos with mobiles which got Android OS , im gettin' pissed of , | 19:32 |
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| sivang | khaico: pleasure to be online with, especially the great physical keyboard that allows for multi participant chats on Fring. | 19:32 |
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| sivang | khaico: pretty amazing, N95 has made it quite a standard to be able to watch videos off the phone to a TV with just a bit of transcoding. | 19:33 |
| sivang | khaico: the machine looked weak for me at start to do that, but it is very good at that. | 19:33 |
| khaico | yes | 19:33 |
| sivang | and in Maemo, I do not do any transcoding at all.... | 19:34 |
| sivang | JOY | 19:34 |
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| sivang | I just copu it, plug the S-Video and that's it. | 19:34 |
| sivang | and the girl is impressed :) | 19:34 |
| sivang | khaico: isn't adroid playback any good? | 19:35 |
| sivang | never had one, so I don't know. | 19:36 |
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| khaico | I dont know a thing too | 19:37 |
| khaico | has been out of those thinks for years :/ | 19:37 |
| khaico | the last month im just spending many time on searching about phones . and i really hate iPhone :p | 19:37 |
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| khaico | sivang , do you think should i buy nokia n 900 or n8 ,or should i wait for nokia n 9 ? | 19:40 |
| tekojo | X-Fade: when you get back to a console do you know of any management 'panel' for servers ? | 19:41 |
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| sivang | tekojo: you mean , like plesk and friends? | 19:41 |
| sivang | khaico: can you buy an n8 already? | 19:42 |
| khaico | no :) | 19:42 |
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| tekojo | sivang: plesk? need to google a bit :) | 19:42 |
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| sivang | khaico: I'd go for the n8 for sure. A rocking strong multimedia and communication device, and I really like to see and play with S^3 on a phone | 19:43 |
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| sivang | tekojo: plesk is actually a non free, but there are a couple like this who are. | 19:44 |
| tekojo | sivang: yes, looks kind of like the thing | 19:44 |
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| khaico | sivang : yes but meego is a really strong OS comparing with S^3 :/ | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer2 | Stskeeps: next TSG meeting still ""...is 9 June 19:00 UTC in #meego-meeting."" ?! | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer2: wiki.meego.com is the authorative one | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:45 |
| sivang | tekojo: there's another one which is open source, forgot the name! | 19:45 |
| sivang | tekojo: my memory is .... | 19:45 |
| sivang | tekojo: I forgot :) | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer2 | Stskeeps: /topic | 19:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer2 | Stskeeps: I'd fix it if... | 19:45 |
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| sivang | tekojo: I had have much experience dealing with hosting companies lately but I forgot the name, I used the open source one since it was easier to tailor and was a bit lighter. | 19:46 |
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| *** Stskeeps changes topic to "MeeGo - http://meego.com | This channel is logged, see them at http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/ | http://wiki.meego.com/Whos_who - add yourself | MeeGo 1.0 Release http://bit.ly/dnq4gV | The Next TSG meeting is 23 June 19:00 UTC in #meego-meeting." | 19:46 | |
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| sivang | khaico: depends on your needs. | 19:47 |
| tekojo | flexcp and web-cp seem to be OSS | 19:47 |
| * Stskeeps should go for some kebab | 19:47 | |
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| tekojo | Stskeeps: just ask samppa... | 19:48 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: kebab! | 19:48 |
| * sivang yummms | 19:48 | |
| Stskeeps | tekojo: yeah, that place is up the street :P | 19:48 |
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| Stskeeps | right, going out | 19:48 |
| sivang | tekojo: good kebab in Helsinki? :) | 19:48 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: don't forget to ask Tehini with it | 19:49 |
| tekojo | sivang: not really, there's one good place I know 70km north of here... :) | 19:49 |
| sivang | tekojo: hehe | 19:49 |
| sivang | tekojo: it is so common in here... | 19:49 |
| sivang | tekojo: webcp looks nice | 19:50 |
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| tekojo | sivang: need to look at it | 19:51 |
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| sivang | tekojo: checking sometehing for the new servers that's coming? | 20:01 |
| rob____ | Hey guys - I'm trying to install Meego 1.0 on an EEEPc 700. No matter how I configure my partitions, it hangs on "Installing bootloader". Any ideas? | 20:01 |
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| frals | Stskeeps: if you are at radisson seaside the pizzeria up the alley is good (just ask lcuk)! :D | 20:05 |
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| Stskeeps | frals: nah, omena :) | 20:11 |
| frals | ok.. my knowledge of helsinki hotels is limited to klaus k, radisson seaside and holiday inn west :D | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:12 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | haha | 20:12 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | :) | 20:12 |
| Myrtti | omena ♥ | 20:12 |
| Myrtti | (especially the one close to our office) | 20:13 |
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| Stskeeps | indeed | 20:17 |
| * w00t_ lacks experience with finnish hotels totally! :P | 20:18 | |
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| tekojo | sivang: yes, mapping the possibilities | 20:23 |
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| thiago_home | arjan: ping | 20:45 |
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| arjan | hi | 20:57 |
| arjan | what can I do for you sir | 20:57 |
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| thiago_home | arjan: your email | 20:58 |
| thiago_home | 403 4.7.0 encryption too weak 0 less than 168 | 20:58 |
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| thiago_home | have you seen this before? | 21:00 |
| arjan | nope | 21:00 |
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| thiago_home | weird | 21:01 |
| thiago_home | sending through another SMTP server | 21:01 |
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| arjan | ah got it now | 21:02 |
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| sivang | how does one create a thread on the forum? | 21:03 |
| thiago_home | ok, blame Microsoft then | 21:03 |
| sivang | I'm logged but there's no visible way to do that. | 21:03 |
| arjan | thiago_home: sent to our qt packaging person | 21:03 |
| arjan | thanks | 21:03 |
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| sivang | ah! suddenly a 'new thread' button appears. | 21:06 |
| sivang | odd | 21:06 |
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| sivang | for any authoritive comments, I'd be happy to read: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=3984#post3984 | 21:09 |
| sivang | DawnFoster: ^ followed your instructions :) | 21:09 |
| sivang | how can I make sure the forum will update me when someone responds to my thread? | 21:11 |
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| tekojo | sivang: thread tools, follow | 21:23 |
| sivang | tekojo: let me look | 21:23 |
| * sivang looks | 21:23 | |
| sivang | tekojo: this is cumbersome | 21:24 |
| sivang | tekojo: whenever I start a new thread I think it is wise to provide a '[x] subscribe to this thread' when creating it or having something automatic for sub'ing to your started threads automagically. | 21:25 |
| tekojo | hmm. I recall that it was easier, but apparently not | 21:25 |
| * sivang sighs | 21:25 | |
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| frals | sivang: you mean like the dropdown menu you can pick "Subscription" mode from when you create a new topic? | 21:26 |
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| sivang | frals: I just created a new thread, didn't see it | 21:27 |
| CosmoHill | arjan: you use a Matrox graphics card in your i7 right? | 21:27 |
| frals | i got the "new thread" page open now and i see it clearly | 21:27 |
| CosmoHill | and that runs meego? | 21:27 |
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| arjan | CosmoHill: it runs. not very well. | 21:27 |
| arjan | at least the UI part does not run very well | 21:28 |
| arjan | the gpu is slow as fsck | 21:28 |
| CosmoHill | I have a Matrox GS200 | 21:28 |
| CosmoHill | do you think that would work? | 21:28 |
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| frals | sivang: hint, "additional options" ;-) | 21:28 |
| sivang | frals: If I overlooked it, it is not up to ui standards :) | 21:29 |
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| * thiago_home got a new i7 on Monday | 21:30 | |
| thiago_home | QtCore compiles in under 15 seconds | 21:30 |
| thiago_home | a full src build of Qt in under 3 minutes, including WebKit | 21:30 |
| sivang | frals: right, you have to scroll down unless you use your wide screen in portrait mode given you have a 22" :-) | 21:31 |
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| sivang | thiago_home: wow cool | 21:31 |
| sivang | thiago_home: how many cores? | 21:31 |
| sivang | thiago_home: did you use distcc? | 21:31 |
| sivang | thiago_home: err | 21:31 |
| sivang | thiago_home: not that, the parallel building thing | 21:31 |
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| frals | sivang: yeah, which is why most browsers show a scrollbar if all the page content isnt visible at once.. ;p | 21:32 |
| sivang | thiago_home: e.g all the parallel makes | 21:32 |
| sivang | frals: wel.... | 21:32 |
| sivang | frals: :) | 21:32 |
| sivang | frals: I was in a hurry! :p | 21:32 |
| thiago_home | sivang: 4+4 cores | 21:34 |
| thiago_home | sivang: using teambuilder, not distcc | 21:34 |
| thiago_home | 130-node compile farm | 21:34 |
| thiago_home | make -j60 | 21:34 |
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| sivang | thiago_home: weeee | 21:36 |
| timeless | MohammadAG5: yes? | 21:38 |
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| timeless | wrap nautilus file opicker as hildonfm? | 21:39 |
| timeless | ooops, wrong window | 21:39 |
| sivang | hey timeless | 21:39 |
| timeless | hi.. | 21:39 |
| sivang | are you not happy to see me? | 21:40 |
| * sivang kids | 21:40 | |
| timeless | i just looked into the sun | 21:40 |
| timeless | just headed away from the office | 21:40 |
| sivang | hah | 21:40 |
| sivang | haha | 21:40 |
| sivang | timeless: go out then, enjoyt | 21:41 |
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| srikanth | Hello Guys any latest MeeGo release for N900 | 22:33 |
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| tripzero | nope | 22:35 |
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| microlith | nope, and what information was up, was sliently removed. lots of secrecy for an open source project ;) | 22:48 |
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| srikanth | hi any one know how to flash N900 with windows flasher | 22:57 |
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