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CosmoHill | cyas | 00:12 |
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andybleaden | HI all anyone been tinkering with banshee community extensions yet at all? | 00:20 |
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[Coke] | Hio; I just picked up a laptop preinstalled with moblin; Should I be doc-searching for meebo now ? | 01:00 |
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[Coke] | er, meego, whoops | 01:08 |
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pxchen_ | \quit | 05:02 |
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Sebas1 | how you install the ui? | 05:27 |
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[Coke] | Sebas1: channel seems very quiet today. I came here by way of #moblin, which I unfortunately just bought a laptop with. =-) | 05:42 |
Sebas1 | oh k. you have meego installed? | 05:42 |
[Coke] | no, downloading now. the laptop came with moblin, which, near as I can tell, is dead. | 05:45 |
[Coke] | s/laptop/netbook/ | 05:47 |
infobot | [Coke] meant: no, downloading now. the netbook came with moblin, which, near as I can tell, is dead. | 05:47 |
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pxchen_ | Who can tell me the ividesktop use which UI toolkit? | 06:13 |
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sivang | morning all | 09:46 |
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sivang | tekojo: hey | 09:52 |
tekojo | morning sivang | 09:53 |
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[Coke] | Sebas1: I ended up going with a different option for the netbook. good luck. | 09:53 |
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reshwindblade | i always wonder why does the logging system log people join and disconnecting from this chat room | 10:11 |
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Stskeeps | reshwindblade: useful occassionally | 10:12 |
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reshwindblade | Stskeeps, yea, keyword occassionally :( I was going thru last few days logs to see what is happening, it was a pain :D | 10:13 |
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Termana | Write a script that wget's the logs and then uses regular expressions to delete lines that are related to joining/parting/quitting and then you've solved your problem. | 10:15 |
reshwindblade | ill add it to the suggestion page ;) but yea could do that | 10:17 |
reshwindblade | oh nvm ill try to do that script, ill post it once done for the benefit of all | 10:17 |
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linuxplatform | Good Morning | 10:33 |
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Quu | fak, cant start terminal :/ | 10:38 |
Quu | something is b0rken | 10:38 |
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Quu | "gnome-terminal has crashed" | 10:46 |
Quu | :f | 10:46 |
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rioch | do you think it's possible to install meego on the archos 5 internet tablet? | 10:47 |
poutsi | Quu, tell me about it... I just found out that right-click-menu-opening any url from gnome term freezes my entire machine | 10:48 |
Quu | lol | 10:48 |
Quu | ctrl+click opens them too | 10:48 |
Quu | and its faster | 10:48 |
Quu | need to irc from tty meh. | 10:48 |
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Quu | now bug raporting tool froze | 10:51 |
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sivang | re | 11:56 |
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pxchen_ | \quit | 12:24 |
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myrtti | you who decided human immunology system deserves to go haywire on introduction to pollen, DIAF! | 12:32 |
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Tm_T | wasn't me! | 12:32 |
* Tm_T hides | 12:32 | |
Stskeeps | Myrtti++ | 12:32 |
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sivang | Myrtti: at least yours is operating at full throttle ;) | 13:15 |
sivang | Myrtti: it is always a tradeoff | 13:15 |
Myrtti | sivang: I wouldn't mind if the allergy medicines I've taken would actually work. | 13:16 |
sivang | Myrtti: they never do...:) | 13:17 |
Myrtti | it's a bit difficult to concentrate to work when I have to wipe my screen clean every 15 minutes. I know how to use a tissue to cover my nose and mouth when I'm sneezing, but I've not developed a superhuman speed to do that yet. | 13:17 |
sivang | Myrtti: By now I think I could get used to everything :) | 13:19 |
sivang | well, not *everything* but for most of it anyways.. | 13:19 |
sivang | Myrtti: you with Intel / Nokia? | 13:19 |
Myrtti | sivang: neither, working for Nomovok | 13:20 |
sivang | Myrtti: they they company doing the huge smartphoen? | 13:20 |
Stskeeps | you're thinking of aava? | 13:20 |
sivang | ah yes | 13:21 |
sivang | brr the names get me confused | 13:21 |
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pupnik_ | hmm morrestown phone: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/16/aava-mobiles-intel-moorestown-prototype-hands-on/ | 13:22 |
pupnik_ | apparently someone should be working on wine+meego builds/compatibility/testing | 13:25 |
pupnik_ | world of warcraft... | 13:25 |
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Tm_T | why would anyone do that when we have Wesnoth? | 13:26 |
crysaz | if you stand in a midle of a field and you can barely see tree line in horizon, you could describe that open space as aava in finnish | 13:26 |
crysaz | i think it is great name for that phone | 13:26 |
pupnik_ | well i did notice "one hour playtime" | 13:27 |
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Quu | damnit | 14:40 |
Quu | cant open terminal | 14:40 |
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vlj | there is still no emgd driver for meego ivi ? | 14:40 |
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CosmoHill | The Sky Crawlers or Evangelion 1.11? | 15:33 |
Stskeeps | beer? | 15:34 |
Stskeeps | :P | 15:34 |
CosmoHill | I prefer cider myself | 15:35 |
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pupnik_ | does anyone know if meego UX has a position wrt the "escape" function, and/or the assignment of that to a hardware key? | 15:39 |
pupnik_ | i bring it up because i forsee many corporate-originated UX decisions will be made, and they should get some discussion time | 15:41 |
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pupnik_ | i bring it up because i forsee many corporate-originated UX decisions will be made, and they should get some discussion time that could be helpful | 15:42 |
pupnik_ | oops | 15:42 |
pupnik_ | i bring it up because i forsee many corporate-originated UX decisions will be made, and they should get some discussion time that could be helpful | 15:43 |
Stskeeps | what's the difference between a meritocratic open source project with some members having more resources, time and merit than others .. and a company? | 15:43 |
pupnik_ | hm | 15:43 |
Stskeeps | both has to 'sell' their product to a user, otherwise they won't get revenue/recruits | 15:43 |
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Tm_T | both can decide they're happy as it is and dont desire to grow too | 15:44 |
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Stskeeps | i'm just saying that there's little difference in how a company makes decisions and a well-run open source one does :P | 15:45 |
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Tm_T | Stskeeps: agree | 15:46 |
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Stskeeps | both are made over coffee. | 15:46 |
Stskeeps | ;) | 15:46 |
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Tm_T | ...was about to say I need some coffee to stop me talking nonsense | 15:47 |
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rioch | do you think it's possible to install meego on an archos 5 internet tablet? | 15:50 |
Stskeeps | it's ARMv7 isn't it? | 15:51 |
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rioch | Main processor: ARM CortexTM-A8, 32 bit, In-order, dual-issue, superscalar core @ 800 MHz | 15:52 |
rioch | taken from: http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en | 15:52 |
Stskeeps | wouldn't say no, given n900 is similar | 15:52 |
Stskeeps | can you hack it to run angstrom or whatever? | 15:52 |
rioch | yeah, you can download something from archos to do that | 15:53 |
rioch | they seem to market it as an open device, but I don't have one yet so I don't know what that really means | 15:53 |
Termana | I would say no though. Yes it is an OMAP3 board inside (AFAIK), but I believe they actually lock them down and stop you from installing custom userspaces | 15:53 |
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rioch | So it's an unsure but probably no? | 15:55 |
Stskeeps | well, not exactly | 15:55 |
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Stskeeps | see if anyone ported angstrom or whatever to it and do some research | 15:56 |
Stskeeps | the biggest problem will be kernel and SGX drivers | 15:56 |
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rioch | Stskeeps, I don't think porting is required. http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/dualoslinux.html?country=us&lang=en | 15:56 |
rioch | unless you mean something else | 15:56 |
Stskeeps | kernel 2.6.33 and sgx driver + libs to have a proper experience | 15:57 |
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rioch | what is sgx? | 15:58 |
Stskeeps | 3d acceleration | 15:58 |
Termana | rioch, the problem with thats is that it is actually distributed by Archos | 15:59 |
Termana | you need to find out if a third party independent of Archos has made firmware/custom ROMs available for it | 15:59 |
rioch | ahh ok I understand | 16:00 |
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rioch | Termana, maybe this is useful? http://www.openaos.org/about | 16:08 |
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Termana | rioch, I had a quick skim read and poke around. It seems that it all links straight back to an Archos official firmware | 16:12 |
Termana | rioch, but they have an IRC channel here on freenode, you should ask them directly | 16:13 |
Termana | #openaos | 16:13 |
rioch | thanks. | 16:14 |
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pupnik_ | $1000 bid for an openpandora. you seeing this nokia? http://cgi.ebay.com/Pandora-Handheld-One-first-OpenPandora-/320542763412?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games&hash=item4aa1d66994 | 16:25 |
Stskeeps | well, anything to skip a queue | 16:26 |
w00t_ | ^ | 16:26 |
w00t_ | some people have too much money and too little sense | 16:26 |
frals | öpö | 16:26 |
frals | s/öpö/lol/ | 16:26 |
infobot | frals meant: lol | 16:26 |
pupnik_ | another went for £580 | 16:26 |
w00t_ | frals: øpø to you too | 16:26 |
Tm_T | œpœ | 16:27 |
rioch | Termana, I think this answers the question: [12:19] <av500> but SDE allows you to boot any linux kernel and user space | 16:28 |
Stskeeps | well, does a working 2.6.33 exist? | 16:29 |
Stskeeps | :P | 16:29 |
rioch | no idea, so if it doesn't I'd need to compile one myself and get it working. a fun, if a little daunting, project | 16:30 |
Termana | rioch, yes, you would have to take Archo's forked kernel, or whatever the openaos guys have and rebase the code to a .33/.34 kernel source. Depending on what the latest kernel version available is, you either have a medium pain in the arse ahead of you, or a major pain in the arse ahead of you | 16:32 |
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rioch | I'm not a big fan of pains in my arse | 16:34 |
rioch | Maybe this is a dumb question, but how does it relate to getting meego on the device? | 16:34 |
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Termana | CosmoHill, thank you alarm clock | 16:37 |
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CosmoHill | O.o | 16:37 |
Termana | rioch, ... you need to be able to run a .33/.34 kernel, and have the ability to use custom userspaces to be thinking about porting' MeeGo | 16:38 |
Termana | CosmoHill, you know.. cause digital alarm clocks blink... | 16:38 |
CosmoHill | :3 | 16:38 |
CosmoHill | mine normally blink 12:00 | 16:39 |
rioch | Termana, ok. thanks for help. | 16:39 |
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CosmoHill | hey th0br0 | 17:29 |
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CosmoHill | mmm, X11 over ADSL, nippy -.- | 17:34 |
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Trollkarlen | Anyone haveing problems with zypper in the meego repo ? | 17:57 |
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CosmoHill | it says one of the things isn't signed and asks if you want to go on | 17:57 |
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CosmoHill | that's what I get | 17:57 |
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jperez26 | Hi anyone o.o | 18:53 |
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Cosmo[PB] | hello | 18:53 |
koupsaa | move from moblin-web-browser to chrome/chromium i a very very bad idea | 18:53 |
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jperez26 | I was looking for some info on MeeGo for the N8x0 | 18:54 |
koupsaa | hello CosmoHill | 18:54 |
jperez26 | I'm very much out of the loop since I've been away from the Maemo community for a few months | 18:54 |
CosmoHill | jperez26: as far as I know only the N900 is supported at the moment | 18:54 |
koupsaa | chrome boring me :( sniff | 18:54 |
CosmoHill | i think there is somethign on the forums / wiki / mailing list about the N8X0 | 18:55 |
w00t_ | jperez26: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 | 18:55 |
jperez26 | Yeah...I figured as much and yet I was told it isn't N8x0-unfriendly | 18:55 |
jperez26 | o.o | 18:55 |
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jperez26 | Very nice. Just checked out the wiki page and the thread linked from it. Very good stuff. I'll keep an eye on the project. Thanks for your help guys and gals. | 19:04 |
w00t_ | feel free to hang around and help out if you can, etc | 19:05 |
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jperez26 | Well, I'll see what I can do. I'm still trying to get myself into a better understanding of the Linux OS itself. Being a Windows person since I was a kid and having to stick with it until recently, it's still a somewhat hard transition | 19:11 |
jperez26 | Plus all the information available sometimes makes my head spin lol | 19:11 |
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kylepotts | does meego support the dell mini 10v? | 20:11 |
jarkko^ | http://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms | 20:13 |
jarkko^ | according to this, yes | 20:14 |
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kylepotts | jarkko^: thanks, I thought so but I was just making sure. What packages does meego support? | 20:14 |
kylepotts | can I install apt? | 20:15 |
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* Stskeeps is happy to see the QA team + QA tools developers spring into the open | 21:01 | |
Stskeeps | and a lot of build infrastructure documentation and stuff | 21:02 |
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alexandercp | good afternoon | 21:10 |
alexandercp | somebody from venezuela? | 21:10 |
alexandercp | hellooooooo | 21:12 |
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slonopotamus | alexandercp: i think you want #venezuela | 21:14 |
Stskeeps | well, depends if you're looking for l10n | 21:15 |
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alexandercp | slonopotamus, i want venezuelan people to know a im not alone here | 21:17 |
alexandercp | i entered for learn about meego i trying the os in this moment | 21:18 |
alexandercp | i have a aao d250-1990 | 21:18 |
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alexandercp | i tryed to install the os in a 8gb sdhc but not start | 21:19 |
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alexandercp | slonopotamus i has joned #meego because i want to talk about meego | 21:21 |
alexandercp | i just only ask about another venezuelan only to see if i am not alone in the room | 21:21 |
alexandercp | do you understand because i asked about another venezuelan peoples here? | 21:22 |
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TSCHAKeee2 | Stskeeps: yayz on the QA openness :) | 21:24 |
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alexandercp | i had a question | 21:26 |
alexandercp | how i enter to the meego applications store? | 21:26 |
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Stskeeps | not sure there's one yet? | 21:27 |
Quu | garage? | 21:27 |
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alexandercp | yes | 21:28 |
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alexandercp | i'm using in this moment a live version across pendrive | 21:29 |
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b-man|laptop | Stskeeps: are there any real risks to watchout for while in R&D mode? | 21:30 |
Stskeeps | b-man|laptop: you can technically run out your battery or go into a reboot loop without end.. | 21:30 |
b-man|laptop | hm, ok | 21:31 |
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tuliobaars | When does the MeeGo will be ready to N8x0 ??? | 21:32 |
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Stskeeps | tuliobaars: dunno, what are you doing to help move it along? :) | 21:33 |
tuliobaars | i don't know where to start, sorry! | 21:34 |
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Stskeeps | well, i guess not much to do atm, what areas can you help in? | 21:34 |
tuliobaars | i just wanna know | 21:34 |
tuliobaars | oh, the test | 21:34 |
tuliobaars | i'm not afraid of bricking my NIT | 21:35 |
tuliobaars | Divulgation, translation of howto's | 21:35 |
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tuliobaars | so many things! just now, i can't help with the kernel | 21:35 |
tuliobaars | I can HOST the files! | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:36 |
tuliobaars | 24x7 in my own server | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | i'll let you know when there's something more proper on the table :) | 21:36 |
tuliobaars | skype? tulio.baars.meira | 21:36 |
tuliobaars | stay in contact | 21:36 |
alexandercp | tulio do you speak spanish? | 21:37 |
Stskeeps | you can follow the progress on forum.meego.com i guess | 21:37 |
tuliobaars | no, just portuguese | 21:37 |
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tuliobaars | and english | 21:37 |
tuliobaars | portuguese its almost an spanish | 21:38 |
alexandercp | i speak spanish and a little of english | 21:38 |
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tuliobaars | ok | 21:39 |
tuliobaars | skype: tulio.baars.meira | 21:39 |
tuliobaars | lets try | 21:39 |
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alexandercp | what is the difference about live cd and installed meego on the netbook? | 21:41 |
alexandercp | in the installed is more applications enabled? | 21:41 |
alexandercp | or the installed is similar to the live? | 21:42 |
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clipartcat | "And I'd like to talk for minute about iOS 4 upgrades. For the 3G, not all the features are supported, same with the iPod touch, and this excludes the first generation. Upgrades are free for all these products." | 21:48 |
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Stskeeps | heh | 21:51 |
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crismon | Hi channel, I have a question: Has anyone ever tried Meego on eeepc 900? Are there problems? | 22:35 |
FunkyPenguin | crismon, what cpu does the 900 have, is it a celeron? | 22:36 |
CosmoHill | eeePC 901 works | 22:36 |
FunkyPenguin | if it is then you wont be able to install it locally, but will be able to run it from usb | 22:36 |
crismon | FunkyPenguin: is celeron..... | 22:36 |
FunkyPenguin | anyone know where the tarballs live? im itching to start packaging it for opensuse | 22:37 |
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CosmoHill | FunkyPenguin: tarballs for what? | 22:42 |
crismon | FunkyPenguin: thank you | 22:42 |
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FunkyPenguin | CosmoHill, for the netbook ux | 22:43 |
CosmoHill | you might have to download the src.rpm files and uppack them? | 22:44 |
FunkyPenguin | is there something similar to ftp.gnome.org and also are there separate pages for each package? | 22:44 |
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FunkyPenguin | ugh that is far from fun :( is there a list of what components make up the netbook ux then? | 22:45 |
CosmoHill | do you think on the wiki we should have a list of common devices that don't support meego? | 22:45 |
CosmoHill | things that people ask about a lot | 22:46 |
FunkyPenguin | crismon, you're welcome - i tried to install to both hard disk and sd card but failed | 22:46 |
FunkyPenguin | running from the usb stick worked a treat | 22:46 |
FunkyPenguin | CosmoHill, i think it just needs to be highlighted about the cpu architecture requirements | 22:46 |
FunkyPenguin | so basically in *BIG* letters what doesnt work | 22:47 |
FunkyPenguin | no real need to list all devices as that will be one huge list | 22:48 |
CosmoHill | it's basically Core 2 and Atom processors | 22:48 |
FunkyPenguin | only Atom N series - the Z series is Poulsbo powered ;) | 22:49 |
CosmoHill | damn | 22:49 |
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altini | hello can anyone help me o direct me on how can i install meego on usb stick | 23:05 |
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Quu | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+meego+on+usb+stick | 23:06 |
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CosmoHill | altini: it's on the wiki :) | 23:07 |
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CosmoHill | Quu: you may have offended the guy | 23:08 |
Quu | sorry :< | 23:08 |
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CosmoHill | or maybe he found the answer | 23:11 |
CosmoHill | he's replaced you with google | 23:11 |
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Quu | imo googling seems too hard. | 23:12 |
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balor | Does GMA500 support for meego 1.0 exist? | 23:47 |
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CosmoHill | no | 23:49 |
CosmoHill | not really | 23:49 |
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balor | CosmoHill: Thanks. I was afraid of that. | 23:50 |
* balor has an expensive paperweight | 23:50 | |
CosmoHill | i think there is something on google | 23:51 |
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balor | It looks like GMA500 support is broken everywhere - Fedora 13, Mandriva etc... | 23:53 |
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summel | anybody has a link to that sexy open source hardware phone concept thingy? | 23:54 |
vgrade | this is as far I have got so far on the Joggler GMA500 based MID | 23:54 |
vgrade | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWOjZQ8jVE | 23:54 |
balor | summel: This? http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/Wild_ducks_project | 23:55 |
summel | npo | 23:55 |
summel | there were also some renders on how it would/could look | 23:55 |
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balor | vgrade: So broken is for some value between "paperweight" and "some guy on IRC has made it kinda work" :) | 23:57 |
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balor | vgrade: Any pointers on how to get that far? | 23:57 |
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