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| achipa | for those that want to take a peek at the Bada SDK but can't be bothered to install it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPs6u9AXOsI | 00:01 |
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| RST38h | qgil: I took a look at the actual app code samples | 00:04 |
| RST38h | qgil: It looks like a Symbian ripoff, which by itself is rather funny | 00:04 |
| RST38h | The UI has been borrowed from everywhere, from iPhone to WinMobile | 00:04 |
| Stskeeps | simpsons did it | 00:05 |
| RST38h | Anyway, nightly reading and sleep | 00:05 |
| thiago_home | my opinion from Bada was that it was C++ API made by Java Engineers | 00:06 |
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| timeless_mbp | thiago: yes | 00:08 |
| th0br0 | i'm leaving. bye, good night everyone | 00:08 |
| thiago_home | the string class derives from Object and has a virtual compare... | 00:08 |
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| anaZ | hi, sorry guys i could not attend the meeting | 01:04 |
| anaZ | sunday kinda sucks for meetings :) | 01:04 |
| CosmoHill | there was a meeting? shit | 01:04 |
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| anaZ | too many family commitments on a sunday afternoon | 01:05 |
| anaZ | and to be honest, I hate irc meetings | 01:05 |
| CosmoHill | I've only ever been in one | 01:07 |
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| ml-mobile | maemo is merging with moblin to form MeeGo | 06:04 |
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| d4rkh4v0k | oh, I was trying to find support for my wireless driver on my aspire one, and was hoping someone can help | 06:05 |
| d4rkh4v0k | Is this a good channel ? | 06:05 |
| d4rkh4v0k | I don't have ethernet on my laptop and want to follow the instructions but think it might be easier to install a 3rd party wifi driver | 06:06 |
| microlith | err | 06:07 |
| microlith | meego sources aren't out yet, #moblin is probably still around | 06:08 |
| d4rkh4v0k | I tried but no answer, there was a ton more of support here so I checked here first, I have an idea though so it may work | 06:09 |
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| Stskeeps | moving on from rpm vs deb to hardware adaptation closed source discussion.. | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | at least we're having these early on | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:39 |
| Corsac | I have to admit I wasn't really believing in full opensourceness of the various meego instances, even though every PR would say meego was fully opensource/free etc. | 10:42 |
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| Corsac | it's just that some notice that later than other, or just lower their expectations | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | well | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | it depends on what you define as meego | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | if meego is the core, then yes, it's open source | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:43 |
| Corsac | Stskeeps: except that meego seems to be the brand too | 10:45 |
| Corsac | Stskeeps: which means that's what people will see on their device | 10:45 |
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| Corsac | it might be (it is) confusing, and thus leads to fud quite easily | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | maybe we -do- need a marketing wg | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:45 |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: why bother? | 10:46 |
| timeless_mbp | we'll have 10 marketing groups | 10:46 |
| timeless_mbp | one per vendor | 10:46 |
| Corsac | we already have them, don't we? | 10:46 |
| timeless_mbp | well, we'll get more, i don't know who most of them are :) | 10:46 |
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| Anssi__ | i would appreciate working drivers over openness | 10:48 |
| * Stskeeps has same attitude | 10:48 | |
| timeless_mbp | silly pragmatists | 10:48 |
| timeless_mbp | how dare you not be vigilant extremists! | 10:48 |
| Anssi__ | i have fought too many hours to do simple tasks like adding sound card/video card/<add here> | 10:50 |
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| Corsac | Anssi__: why would it need to be such a trade-off | 10:53 |
| Corsac | Anssi__: there are open drivers which work fine | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | in x86 world | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:54 |
| Corsac | Stskeeps: do you suggests there are _no_ open/working drivers in arm world? :) | 10:54 |
| Corsac | -s | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | Corsac: no, but it is not often seen people successfully reverse engineer :P | 10:54 |
| Corsac | Stskeeps: my point is that hw vendors could open the drivers themselves (and some do), like in x86 world | 10:55 |
| Corsac | maybe it's not as mature as x86 world in that matter, but it'd still be nice (and technically possible) | 10:55 |
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| Stskeeps | Corsac: and they are, but it is a uphill battle :P | 10:57 |
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| thiago | possible? yes | 11:01 |
| thiago | now go convince them | 11:01 |
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| Anssi__ | hopefully they keep meego at least open for extending like in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open/closed_principle | 11:01 |
| thiago | I'm hoping that the core is open and that if you are selective about your HW, you only need open drivers | 11:03 |
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| Stskeeps | lo dneary | 11:17 |
| dneary | hi | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | how's it going? | 11:17 |
| dneary | good! | 11:19 |
| dneary | And you? | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | good good, spent most of my weekend hacking :P | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | today i have a lazy streak, not sure it was a good choice to work in weekend :) | 11:20 |
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| Anssi__ | Stskeeps, that is weekend well spent :) | 11:21 |
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| dneary | Stskeeps, On Mer? | 11:21 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, Do you know of anyone who's tried to get Fremantle working on an N810 with no 3D? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | dneary: that's what i'm doing at the moment with the mer^2 stuff | 11:22 |
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| Stskeeps | the problem is everything needs to be recompiled to armv6+vfp vs armv7 | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | so i have to do some changes | 11:22 |
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| dneary | Stskeeps: Would you have any use for a TI Zoom2? | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | dneary: got one :) | 11:28 |
| dneary | The GNOME Foundation had a couple donated by TI and don't know what to do with them | 11:29 |
| timeless_mbp | heh | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | i'd keep it around for meego work and maemo5 development | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | we have a port of m5 on it | 11:29 |
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| Stskeeps | it is a really nice development platform for mobile development | 11:32 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at meego-dev and sighs a bit | 11:45 | |
| slaine | +1 | 11:45 |
| timeless_mbp | i presume i shouldn't bother | 11:45 |
| slaine | I'm thinking of marking that folder as Read | 11:45 |
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| timeless_mbp | you could use it to build a killfile :) | 11:47 |
| slaine | time for some toast me thinks | 11:47 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: is there a log of the meeting last night online ? I'd like to see what happened after I had to sign off | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: th0br0 will put it out | 11:48 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: gramd | 11:48 |
| slaine | s/gramd/grand | 11:48 |
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| X-Fade | I had to miss the meeting :( | 11:49 |
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| Stskeeps | we'll prolly have one soon enough again after the first TSG meeting as to help put things into perspective | 11:49 |
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| slaine | At least we're all on the same page, which was good to see | 11:50 |
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| Stskeeps | wb wazd | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't have minded a broader scope, but that's me :) | 11:51 |
| X-Fade | A blessing for the actual working group would be nice too ;) | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | the thing is also really if to target it being a WG - seems like there's going to be groups not directly referring to TSG as well | 11:53 |
| X-Fade | Yes, but I think the group will overlap into some technical platform decisions. | 11:54 |
| X-Fade | So it can't be standing on it's own. | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | my gripe was a bit that repo group seems to center around 'extras' while it should be bigger :P | 11:55 |
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| X-Fade | Stskeeps: You want it from core builing to obscure platforms and everything in between? :) | 11:57 |
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| Stskeeps | X-Fade: more along lines of being a cross team function for packaging and integration (policy development, collaboration spaces, etc) | 11:59 |
| X-Fade | Makes sense. Would definately be a more complex target though. | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | cos current team probably won't scale | 12:00 |
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| X-Fade | Well, question is who does all this now? | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | that's also what is not really known | 12:02 |
| X-Fade | There are teams working, preparing things but not in the open. So that is hard to find out atm. | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:03 |
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| Stskeeps | tekojo: your jabber looks a bit unstable :) | 13:12 |
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| Stskeeps | glueguns are usually more friendly | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:17 |
| CosmoHill | it's the only way Stskeeps can nail someone | 13:18 |
| tekojo | Stskeeps which one :) | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | oi, i'm married | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | tekojo: not the google one | 13:18 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 13:19 |
| tekojo | cvm I think I'm on with three different machines | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 13:19 |
| tekojo | And they are not playing nice together | 13:20 |
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| burchr | Stskeeps: you might say that, until you've had hot glue shot all over you | 13:24 |
| burchr | (I have, it's not friendly) | 13:24 |
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| ech0dish | was wondering when the n900 goes to meego will it have a new user interface or perhaps an upgraded version of its current? Also any idea when we might get a MiFi application? | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | noone knows yet | 13:42 |
| CosmoHill | and nobody ever will | 13:42 |
| ech0dish | eventually we will lol | 13:43 |
| ech0dish | love the device though, had previous n800 and n810 models.. i miss a lot of the features... anyone found a way to unrar anything on the n900 yet? | 13:44 |
| ech0dish | can download all the rar'd up movies and video's i want with this thing but can't extract them.. grr.. | 13:45 |
| lcuk | ech0dish, have a google about for rar maemo? | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | ech0dish: see if you can locate source for diablo, it should be possible to decompile | 13:46 |
| ech0dish | maemo5 can run diablo? | 13:46 |
| ech0dish | huh | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | it's worth a try with the deb from there | 13:46 |
| ech0dish | yeah i'll try it | 13:46 |
| ech0dish | thx for the tip, will try and compile a few diablo apps to see | 13:47 |
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| koivula | Now I truly understand why Steve doesn't want flash on his mobile devices. | 13:52 |
| * CosmoHill hears the word flash and stabs adobe | 13:53 | |
| CosmoHill | watching a SD video shouldn't take that much processing power :( | 13:54 |
| koivula | Hell most of shitty flash even get my 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo to use it's other core 100%. | 13:54 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, http://xkcd.com/676/ | 13:55 |
| * CosmoHill bursts out laughing | 13:55 | |
| CosmoHill | (IRL i'm just smiling) | 13:56 |
| CosmoHill | i found something weird | 13:56 |
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| CosmoHill | in power saving mode the processor performace is capped | 13:57 |
| koivula | http://xkcd.com/619/ | 13:57 |
| koivula | :) | 13:57 |
| CosmoHill | but most of the time it doesn't affect the quailty of the flash video | 13:57 |
| CosmoHill | it still used 100% load but the processor is cooler | 13:57 |
| asy2 | meego work for ion nvidia ? | 13:58 |
| CosmoHill | maybe | 13:59 |
| CosmoHill | I'd like to know why adobe uses 100% load with no difference in quaility when the processor is limited | 13:59 |
| CosmoHill | and will use 100% load when it's unlimited and just overheat | 13:59 |
| Anssi__ | uh.. 100% of cpu is quite much. | 14:00 |
| lcuk | almost as much as 110% | 14:00 |
| Anssi__ | yep. | 14:00 |
| CosmoHill | sometimes it's just better to download the flash video and play it in VLC | 14:00 |
| CosmoHill | based purely on processor temperature, I'd say flash 10 is worse than flash 9 | 14:01 |
| lcuk | people in cold climates appreciate the heating effect | 14:01 |
| lcuk | youtube is used to warm up houses | 14:01 |
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| CosmoHill | my processor uses 10W and gets up to 66'C | 14:02 |
| lcuk | throw another lolcat onto the fire | 14:02 |
| asy2 | i have try meego found madecko img but this dont load in ion nvidia | 14:02 |
| w00t | lcuk: I have a friend who compiles Qt repeatedly when it gets cold | 14:02 |
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| asy2 | and moblin load but no easy to have nvidia supported | 14:02 |
| lcuk | why doesnt that surprise me w00t | 14:02 |
| w00t | :) | 14:03 |
| CosmoHill | asy2: i think you need to use the older nvidia driver | 14:03 |
| CosmoHill | I used the newest and moblin is unuseable | 14:03 |
| CosmoHill | w00t: lol | 14:04 |
| CosmoHill | in the winter when I was younger I used to get out of my bed, start the PC folding and get back into bed for 10 mins | 14:04 |
| asy2 | industry is very closed and i not understand well why nokia com in in intel developement moblin for create meego | 14:04 |
| Anssi__ | iv'e heard that there should be coming sort gpu support in latest beta flash | 14:04 |
| Anssi__ | *i have.. | 14:04 |
| CosmoHill | they need to rewrite flash from screatch imo | 14:05 |
| asy2 | now i have installed chromuim-os but wifi failed | 14:05 |
| Anssi__ | it worked at least on my linux box (farmville was smoother :) | 14:05 |
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| joppu | sometimes it's better to use MPlayer instead of [D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[DVLC | 14:06 |
| CosmoHill | i should probably mention that I'm on a mac | 14:06 |
| CosmoHill | (powerpc) | 14:06 |
| Anssi__ | woow | 14:07 |
| joppu | "well, that's what you get from buying a mac" | 14:07 |
| asy2 | CosmoHill ok but i have already recompliling Xorg and kernel i try later port from my gentoo moblin | 14:07 |
| joppu | powerpc... | 14:07 |
| asy2 | i have a mac | 14:07 |
| asy2 | macmini | 14:07 |
| asy2 | and a imax mini HP | 14:08 |
| * CosmoHill stabs joppu | 14:08 | |
| joppu | http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/ | 14:09 |
| CosmoHill | i hear that at uni | 14:09 |
| CosmoHill | they're basically going "well it's your fault that you can't run something your computer was never designed for" | 14:09 |
| joppu | haha | 14:10 |
| slaine | CosmoHill: I've an iMac G5 at home | 14:10 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 14:10 |
| slaine | nice machine, at 1.8Ghz it too runs at 100% when flash loads up | 14:11 |
| CosmoHill | i hate they way they say it's my fault | 14:11 |
| slaine | Answer of the ignorant | 14:11 |
| CosmoHill | i've used my laptop nearly every day since I've had it :) | 14:11 |
| joppu | btw, I have VLC as a hilight on irssi, so I can bitch at people every time they mention it. | 14:11 |
| slaine | joppu: why ? | 14:12 |
| CosmoHill | slaine: in my head I'm thinking "why don't you just get a room with MS and fuck each other, cos that's what you really just wanna do" | 14:12 |
| joppu | slaine: 'cause it sucks | 14:12 |
| slaine | CosmoHill: lol | 14:12 |
| slaine | joppu: very articulate answer there, thanks. | 14:13 |
| CosmoHill | he'll use a MS product over anything else | 14:13 |
| slaine | joppu's clocked up two awesome answers so far | 14:13 |
| CosmoHill | apart from the adobe stuff he stole | 14:13 |
| CosmoHill | which is going around all the students | 14:13 |
| CosmoHill | apparently I'm a moron for actually buying my software | 14:14 |
| slaine | CosmoHill: who's "he" | 14:14 |
| joppu | I'm sure this will all come down to Flash on iPad | 14:14 |
| CosmoHill | guy at uni | 14:14 |
| slaine | right | 14:14 |
| CosmoHill | joppu: just what you need, something to keep your lap warm | 14:14 |
| slaine | Student in opinionated shocka, news at 11 | 14:15 |
| CosmoHill | get two iphones and you can have warm hands in the winter | 14:15 |
| koivula | joppu, at least it works bettern than mplayer | 14:15 |
| joppu | "Steve Jobs is our hero because he fights Adobe" what would these people say if the new Microsoft OS was incompatible with Flash | 14:16 |
| joppu | koivula: yeah, on a Mac | 14:16 |
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| koivula | joppu, yes :) | 14:16 |
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| RST38h | joppu: Steve Jobs is their hero because he produces shiny smooth substitutes for the objects of their sexual desire | 14:19 |
| * RST38h actually took his time to compose this definition as precisely as possible | 14:20 | |
| slaine | My iPhone and I appreciate that RST38h, thanks | 14:20 |
| Anssi__ | i think i will be soon allergic for apples. | 14:21 |
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| CosmoHill | only reason to get an iPhone, BoxedIt | 14:24 |
| CosmoHill | I'll play it whenever my mate leaves his phone near me | 14:24 |
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| Anssi__ | i have not ever owned apple product but it's first time for everything. Brainwashing seems to be working. | 14:27 |
| Anssi__ | *never | 14:28 |
| CosmoHill | rawr | 14:29 |
| CosmoHill | in the channel topic: "Do not PM users" | 14:29 |
| CosmoHill | what do people do to me | 14:29 |
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| RST38h | CosmoHill: Or rather "PM users at your own risk" | 14:31 |
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| slaine | lol | 14:31 |
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| CosmoHill | damn you IE, why do you have to be different | 14:33 |
| CosmoHill | for some reason it defaulted to bold | 14:35 |
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| wazd | hello humans :) | 15:18 |
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| john213 | hello there | 15:20 |
| john213 | can MEEGO run on arm9 | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | what's that, armv4t? | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | and noone knows yet | 15:21 |
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| slaine | MeeGo, coming soon | 15:22 |
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| qgil | CosmoHill: that being... | 16:36 |
| * CosmoHill scrolls up to see what he said | 16:36 | |
| CosmoHill | my server | 16:36 |
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| slaine | qgil: did you ever get your nokia 3g book drivers working ? | 16:51 |
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| qgil | slaine: no, I gave up | 16:52 |
| lcuk | will the noka booklet run meego? is it atom based or pemntium m? | 16:52 |
| slaine | I found out afterwards, that for some reason, the IVI install came with an xorg.conf file | 16:53 |
| qgil | slaine: now I'm wondering whether I should wait for MeeGo to ship the drivers (no idea if it will happen) or install Windows 7........ | 16:53 |
| slaine | you have to login to runlevel 3, configure the xorg.conf and try again | 16:53 |
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| slaine | However, you end up with and Xfce desktop and not the Moblin UX | 16:54 |
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| slaine | and I'm not even sure if the Moblin UX works on the gma500 drivers they provided | 16:54 |
| qgil | slaine: well, getting familiar with the Moblin UX was the intend :) | 16:54 |
| slaine | i seem to recall uxlaunch neing unhappy | 16:54 |
| slaine | nod | 16:54 |
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| CosmoHill | son of a bitch, the whole adobe store is flash | 17:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | <CosmoHill> in the channel topic: "Do not PM users" -- in #maemo topic: Getting spammed? /mode YOURNICK +R | 17:06 |
| CosmoHill | ? | 17:07 |
| CosmoHill | what does that do? | 17:07 |
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| qgil | th0br0: I'm supposed to be operating our lovely meetbot on Wednesday at the TSG meeting - anything I should do or know? Your help is appreciated | 17:57 |
| X-Fade | qgil: We could probably do a practice meeting, so you can try it out? | 17:58 |
| slaine | lol, we didn't use it last night I think | 17:58 |
| X-Fade | qgil: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 17:59 |
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| Stskeeps | not a lot but in tsg it will for sure be needed.. | 17:59 |
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| X-Fade | qgil: Or rather: http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html | 18:00 |
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| qgil | X-Fade: a practice meeting this evening would be fun :) | 18:01 |
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| slaine | I wanna see the logs for that ;) | 18:01 |
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| qgil | or at the time that suits you best, actually | 18:02 |
| qgil | I just need 2 hours of no-computer from now on :) | 18:02 |
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| thiago | qgil: have a nice evening! | 18:03 |
| X-Fade | We need th0br0 to be awake at least. | 18:03 |
| CosmoHill | bye bye qgil | 18:03 |
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| qgil | th0br0 awake and me not sleeping - seems doable :) | 18:04 |
| qgil | so I'll go get some fresh air (Helsinki is still pretty good at providing *fresh* air) :) | 18:04 |
| thiago | go get some coffee | 18:04 |
| qgil | bye | 18:05 |
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| CosmoHill | thiago: there's probably a starbucks near him | 18:05 |
| thiago | even better | 18:05 |
| thiago | no Starbucks in Oslo though | 18:05 |
| CosmoHill | :o | 18:05 |
| CosmoHill | yet... | 18:05 |
| VDVsx | thiago, neither in Finland afaik | 18:08 |
| VDVsx | and Finland is the country that consumes more coffee per capita :P | 18:08 |
| szbalint | bah, you call that coffee earth-clan! | 18:09 |
| Corsac | VDVsx: because you never heard of espresso or because you drink that much espresso? | 18:11 |
| VDVsx | Corsac, I only drink expresso, but I'm not in Finland, just heard that ;) | 18:12 |
| VDVsx | well, sometimes I drink bad coffee but only abroad :P | 18:12 |
| * VDVsx his coffee addicted :P | 18:13 | |
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| timeless_mbp | VDVsx: we have starbucks in HEL | 19:02 |
| timeless_mbp | … Ben and Jerry's, TGI Fridays, Pizza Hut, McDonalds | 19:03 |
| timeless_mbp | we used to have Esso, but i think they left | 19:03 |
| VDVsx | timeless_mbp, is it new ? I read a article a while ago with the info above, probably outdated | 19:03 |
| timeless_mbp | not very | 19:03 |
| timeless_mbp | oh, we also have Roger's and Pete's Coffee | 19:03 |
| timeless_mbp | perhaps late 2008 i guess | 19:04 |
| timeless_mbp | it's been a while | 19:04 |
| VDVsx | interesting, so googling starbucks finalnd gives a lot of bad info :p | 19:05 |
| VDVsx | just tried, ehehe | 19:05 |
| VDVsx | damn you google!!! | 19:05 |
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| zeenix | VDVsx: there's no starbucks here last i checked | 19:07 |
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| VDVsx | zeenix, timeless_mbp knows one it seems ;) | 19:08 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://plazes.com/plazes/130549_starbucks_17th_s perhaps? | 19:12 |
| VDVsx | http://www.starbucks.com/store-locator | 19:12 |
| VDVsx | says no, to me | 19:12 |
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| timeless_mbp | i'll get pictures some day when i'm not sick | 19:14 |
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| baruche | Hi | 19:37 |
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| edo_v | will meego running on nokia 5800 | 19:52 |
| rsalveti | edo_v: if you're able to hack your nokia 5800, there could be an image for it | 19:53 |
| rsalveti | but you can't flash and hack it the way you want | 19:54 |
| edo_v | ok | 19:54 |
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| sp3000 | roger, pete? you forgot wayne ;> | 20:06 |
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| GAN900 | lol | 20:17 |
| GAN900 | Just buy a real device. | 20:17 |
| GAN900 | 5800 has no 3D | 20:17 |
| GAN900 | So, no, no MeeGo | 20:18 |
| * RST38h cackles suggestively at that | 20:18 | |
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| ShadowJK | besides, 5800 can't boot linux kernel :) | 20:34 |
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| VDVsx | GAN900, I can run quake1&2&3, so not that bad :P | 20:41 |
| VDVsx | on the 5800 | 20:41 |
| GAN900 | lol | 20:41 |
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| loekje_ | q | 21:21 |
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| qgil | I wonder the best way to handle the questions that DawnFoster will forward to the TSG meeting, using the commands at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot | 21:28 |
| qgil | perhaps this: | 21:28 |
| qgil | #info VDVsx asks bla blu bli | 21:28 |
| qgil | and then the answer | 21:28 |
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| qgil | #info Imad answers: mumble mumble | 21:28 |
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| qgil | or #agreed Valtteri says: etc etc | 21:29 |
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| DawnFoster | qgil - do I need to do any of this when I enter the question into the #meego channel? or will you handle all of the commands to meetbot? | 21:32 |
| qgil | DawnFoster: you can forget about the bot | 21:33 |
| qgil | DawnFoster: although you can introduce commands if you wish - but easier in following meetings | 21:33 |
| VDVsx | #info & #info sounds better to me, since #agreed have other meaning according to the doc above | 21:33 |
| DawnFoster | qgil - cool, thanks | 21:33 |
| DawnFoster | also, I've created #meego-meeting-questions which is where people will post questions | 21:34 |
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| DawnFoster | will be easier than parsing them out of back channel conversations at #meego. | 21:34 |
| CosmoHill | hey DawnFoster and qgil | 21:35 |
| thiago_home | #meego-alternative-meeting :-P | 21:35 |
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| DawnFoster | hey cosmohill | 21:36 |
| CosmoHill | i was about to ask, when is the test meeting | 21:37 |
| qgil | VDVsx: ok #info #info then | 21:37 |
| qgil | CosmoHill: depends on th0br0 's availability - forgot to ask huim yesterday when he was ruling the repo meeting | 21:39 |
| thiago_home | we can have a meeting to discuss what commands to accept and have the test meeting in one go | 21:39 |
| * CosmoHill guesses he should come out of #meego-alternative-meeting | 21:39 | |
| Stskeeps | if need be i can probably set up a meetbot | 21:39 |
| DawnFoster | thiago_home I think we should have a prep meeting before the test meeting (kidding( | 21:40 |
| * thiago_home thinks meetings are only good to set the time for the next meeting | 21:40 | |
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| qgil | thiago_home: plus an action to decide the place | 21:41 |
| VDVsx | For the alternative channel we should agree on a tag for the questions as well (e.g: Question: bla bal), this way the mod can set their IRC client to highlight that tag, and easily filtrate any side talk | 21:42 |
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| DawnFoster | VDVsx: I've created a separate channel for questions at #meego-meeting-questions | 21:43 |
| VDVsx | DawnFoster, yes, but people will talk about the questions for sure, always happens :) | 21:44 |
| VDVsx | can be a bit disturbing for you | 21:44 |
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| DawnFoster | VDVsx I know, but hopefully, I can separate some of it from the rest of the chatter. | 21:47 |
| DawnFoster | this first one is going to be fun :) | 21:47 |
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| lcuk | DawnFoster, :) pleased there will be an open channel for questions, it will help the other moderators also to see | 21:53 |
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| DawnFoster | lcuk: we thought it would be more transparent & other people can help by letting me know if I missed an important question | 21:55 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: I suspect that we'll have more questions than we can answer during this first TSG | 21:55 |
| lcuk | yeah, its mostly for your sanity - having a single pair of eyes means you wont catch everything | 21:56 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk, exactly! | 21:56 |
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| mmeeks | anaZ: is it possible that you have warnings-as-errors turned on - or something, | 22:10 |
| qgil | lbt http://meego.com/community/events ? | 22:10 |
| mmeeks | anaZ: and that the mail-view things flagged just as warnings, are really the errors causing failure ? | 22:10 |
| * mmeeks has no diea. | 22:11 | |
| anaZ | mmeeks: yes | 22:11 |
| anaZ | well, lets say I guess so | 22:12 |
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| mmeeks | anaZ: did you change that for Trunk ? | 22:13 |
| anaZ | I did not change anything | 22:13 |
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| thiago_home | mmeeks: your patch to dbus didn't fix my threading issue... | 22:19 |
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| mmeeks | thiago: drat :-) | 22:23 |
| mmeeks | thiago_home: can you send me a link to the buglet ? :-) | 22:24 |
| qgil | mmeeks: this is what happens when you write patches while having dinner | 22:24 |
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| * mmeeks obviously got a meat-ball wedged between the ^ operator and the goto ... | 22:24 | |
| CosmoHill | my friend had a pet called meatball | 22:24 |
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| thiago_home | mmeeks: the Qt issue is http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-7475 | 22:27 |
| thiago_home | I haven't distilled a libdbus-only testcase yet | 22:27 |
| thiago_home | but basically it's calling NameHasOwner via dbus_connection_send_with_reply_and_block from two different threads, simultaneously | 22:28 |
| Troy54 | Hi | 22:28 |
| mmeeks | thiago: hopefully you loose the timeout between the two, but - wow, that sounds bad :-) | 22:29 |
| mmeeks | sounds like on the wire corruption. | 22:29 |
| mmeeks | thiago: the very #1st step in this kind of bug though is simple. | 22:29 |
| mmeeks | thiago: do you call dbus_threads_init() or whatever it is called ? | 22:29 |
| mmeeks | thiago: if not, life is really, really bad :-) | 22:29 |
| * mmeeks is always forgetting to do that in his tests. | 22:29 | |
| lbt | qgil: possibly. I was thinking of a more casual level - eg the Sunday night Repository Party .... or even, I guess, "Meetup in London for drinks" | 22:35 |
| thiago_home | yes, it's called | 22:37 |
| mmeeks | thiago: I'll have a look at some stage, if I can't persuade Colin | 22:38 |
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| burchr | lbt: drinks? | 22:47 |
| burchr | *ears prick up* | 22:47 |
| lbt | Sat 17th April - London | 22:47 |
| lbt | you free? | 22:48 |
| * burchr checks his calendar | 22:48 | |
| burchr | should be | 22:48 |
| lbt | there's a "get students started with OSS" type thing happening | 22:48 |
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| burchr | that sounds scary :P | 22:49 |
| lbt | yeah - we'll need a drink! | 22:49 |
| burchr | got more info anywhere? | 22:49 |
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| Jaffa | burchr: I'm about to post to meego-community/maemo-community and talk.maemo.org about it. | 23:05 |
| Jaffa | burchr: Public face == http://www.graduatedevelopmentcommunity.co.uk/ | 23:06 |
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| burchr | Jaffa: ta, passed it on to my better half who might be interested too | 23:28 |
| Jaffa | burchr: Cool, email gone to meego/maemo-community: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-March/000507.html | 23:28 |
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| CosmoHill | hey slaine | 23:54 |
| slaine | evening CosmoHill | 23:56 |
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