IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2014-01-07

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peetahdoes  "ohmd[1048]: GLIB ERROR ** default - module videoep failed to load but listed in require aborting" ring a bell to anyone ? that's what causing the reboot loop of my n900 when the system-services package above version 0.3.8-68+0cssu0 is installed00:51
peetahI currently run the CSSU T9.1 but with the 0.3.8-68+0cssu0 version of system-services instead of the 0.3.8-68+0cssu7 included in CSSU T9.100:53
peetahas soon as I upgrade this package to any superior version, the boot loop is back00:54
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merlin1991hm  I can't grock why this "if (!section)" is faster than this "if (section == NULL)"07:19
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freemangordon_merlin1991: not necessarily, depends on the compiler09:17
freemangordon_but (x == NULL) needs comparison09:18
freemangordon_while !x could use CPU flags09:19
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freemangordonhmm, you know what? I was able to speed apt-worker time to 7 seconds, with extras-devel enabled12:32
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RaimuHow?12:35
freemangordonRaimu: wait some 30 minutes to push the changes on gitorious12:36
Raimu:)12:36
Mark__TCan anyone using thumb2 test if they get "Aborted" when using Abiword (and doing File->Open)13:00
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freemangordonRaimu: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager/commit/35c6a3a8ce524ab91a6b87fb48db94c0501fdcd213:07
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: merlin1991:^^^13:07
freemangordonI guess I can shave off about 1-2 more seconds, but want that one tested first13:10
Mark__Tunfortunatly abiword doesn't come with debugsymbols, so that is all I get: http://pastebin.ca/253129013:24
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I can't build stuff here13:58
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I just thought that the sb x86-emu (xephyr) emulates a (more or less) complete fremantle. So could you please check which else of the x86 binaries we can't build for armel yet?14:07
DocScrutinizer05it seems we would need all of them RE'ed to make fremantle run on other platforms - assuming x86 is a vastly different platform than ARM14:08
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I'd rather have some priority of those binaries, blindly doing RE is not smart IMO14:38
DocScrutinizer05err, sorry? what priority, which binaries?14:39
freemangordon14:06 <DocScrutinizer05> freemangordon: I just thought that the sb x86-emu (xephyr) emulates a (more or less) complete fremantle. So could you please check which else of the x86 binaries we can't build for armel yet?14:39
freemangordonthere are lots of AFAIK14:39
DocScrutinizer05yep, probably14:40
DocScrutinizer05so what you're asking for? a priority list?14:40
freemangordonMark__T: install libc libgmodule and libgnomevfs debug symbols14:40
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: rather a list with a "must have the source code" binaries14:41
DocScrutinizer05sorry, I can't do such list, I'm not in sw development, I don't even have a working scratchbox installation here14:41
freemangordonMark__T: most probably you'll need newer gdb to successfully debug thumb binaries, fortunately I pushed such gdb in extras-devel some time ago14:42
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: a list of armel binaries will do the job as well, I can check if those have x86 counterpads14:42
freemangordonconterparts even14:43
freemangordonshit :(14:43
freemangordonanyway14:43
DocScrutinizer05first approach I'd check which binaries on sb-x86 target get installed from nokia repo resp come with sb and are not available as sourcecode, then grep all of them for any references to /dev or /sys14:43
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: not eveything in nika-binaries repo gets installed in SB14:43
DocScrutinizer05yes, that's why I said "*get installed* from nokia repo"14:44
Mark__Tfreemangordon: will try14:44
Mark__Tfreemangordon: can take a while flaky wlan here14:45
freemangordonso the better approach is to make a list of "must have" bins, then check if there is x86 binary. REed eveything just for the sake of it is not good IMO14:45
freemangordonmy parents have only one son ;)14:45
freemangordonMark__T: np14:45
DocScrutinizer05I think the above approach is exactly to get such list of must-have binaries14:46
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: don;t we have that list prepared by jonwil?14:46
DocScrutinizer05sorry, I don't know14:47
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: anyway, gtg, bbl14:47
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peetahdoes  "ohmd[1048]: GLIB ERROR ** default - module videoep failed to load but listed in require aborting" ring a bell to anyone ? that's what causing the reboot loop of my n900 when the system-services package above version 0.3.8-68+0cssu0 is installed14:57
peetahI currently run the CSSU T9.1 but with the 0.3.8-68+0cssu0 version of system-services instead of the 0.3.8-68+0cssu7 included in CSSU T9.114:57
peetahas soon as I upgrade this package to any superior version, the boot loop is back14:58
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sixwheeledbeastpeetah: I have seen this issue reported before re system-services. check /etc/fstab and blkid IIRC it's related to easy-debian and partitions I'd have to check through my PM's and e-mails15:14
peetahsixwheeledbeast: it's been a long time since I removed easy-debian: my fstab and blkid are now quite basic15:17
peetahsixwheeledbeast: but if you find any clue in your PM's and e-mails, I'll take it thanks15:18
sixwheeledbeastpeetah: fw190 on TMO had the same issue, I will look when I get a minute. can you pastebin the above?15:23
peetahsixwheeledbeast: I read your reply on the flopswap thread, and it was about the device swap partition having a UUID15:24
peetahsixwheeledbeast: http://pastealacon.com/3374715:26
peetahbut this is what is set when using 0.3.8-68+0cssu0: give me a moment to upgrade, boot with backupmenu et get the files generated by 0.3.8-68+0cssu7 version15:27
sixwheeledbeastI'll have to get back to work, I'll check later and see if I found a reason only fw190 was effected. Do you use FlopSwap BTW?15:29
peetahI used to, but as I told you somewhere is the flopswap thread (user pierrem) , since 1 or 2 version it does not use the sd swaps after reboot15:30
peetahs/is/in/15:31
infobotpeetah meant: I used to, but as I told you somewhere in the flopswap thread (user pierrem) , since 1 or 2 version it does not use the sd swaps after reboot15:31
peetahsixwheeledbeast: here they are  with 0.3.8-68+0cssu7: http://pastealacon.com/3374815:36
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merlin1991freemangordon: any ideas how to test the ham code?17:12
freemangordonmerlin1991: hmm? git clone xxx;dpkg-buildpackage17:12
freemangordon:P17:12
merlin1991yeah but that isn't really a distinct test case17:13
freemangordonmerlin1991: I did it by comparing the available applications/updates between 2 devices17:13
merlin1991let's write some unit tests for apt-worker lulz17:13
freemangordonone with those patches and one without17:13
freemangordonmerlin1991: there are some tests17:13
merlin1991yeah but imagine attempting to get 100% coverage17:14
freemangordonmerlin1991: I'd rather push in cssu-devel and wait for feedback17:15
freemangordonmerlin1991: BTW I'll try to reduce that time a bit more when I am back home and will push to cssu-devel (no matter if I fail)17:16
merlin1991semi fast ham, that's going to be fun thing on tmo when it comes out xD17:16
freemangordonI guess reduction from 111s to 6s is a big win :D17:17
freemangordonyeah :D17:17
freemangordonmerlin1991: BTW if you have some spare time, please fix the changelog17:17
merlin1991what's wrong with it?17:17
freemangordonnothing17:17
freemangordonit is just missing the new version17:18
freemangordon(the one that will be pushed to -devel)17:18
freemangordonthe same for fmtx middleware17:18
merlin1991ah ham debian/changelog I was mentally here: https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog17:18
freemangordonmerlin1991: I am too lazy to add new entries in those 2 changelogs (ham and fmtx-middleware)17:19
freemangordon:D17:19
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sixwheeledbeastpeetah: I looked through my PM's and I didn't get to the bottom of the system-services boot loop fw190 is using an earlier version still. I don't know what user "pierrem" said but if there is any problems with FlopSwap I'd like know and try to fix them.18:06
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peetahsixwheeledbeast: concerning flopswap here is our conversation http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87985&page=1618:09
peetahsixwheeledbeast: I am "pierrem"18:10
sixwheeledbeastAh...post 15118:12
peetahsixwheeledbeast: yes, sorry I did not precise it was the tmo flopswap thread18:14
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sixwheeledbeastpeetah: Hmm well yes reading back through, FlopSwap =>0.1.0 will not work correctly a boot for you without fixing your system-services issue.18:18
peetahsixwheeledbeast: I'm afraid so, and now that I narrowed it down to this videoep module used by ohmd, I hope that someone will be able to help me futher18:20
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sixwheeledbeastpeetah: ohmd is stock AFAIK and not touched by CSSU. That sounds like possible corruption, have you tried the latest fsck DO NOT use the stock maemo one.18:28
sixwheeledbeastor maybe someone can help from the CSSU team if you have a syslog.18:28
peetahI reinstalled ohm and ohm-plugins-misc packages but did not fsck18:28
sixwheeledbeasthttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5/syslog18:29
peetahsixwheeledbeast: yes, the syslog is here: http://pastealacon.com/3375018:30
peetahsixwheeledbeast: tmo user rdorsh had the same issue, but pali on tmo and, I think I also read irc log involving DocScrutinizer05 , both told him that there were a file system corruption and the guy just flashed its device18:35
sixwheeledbeastyep, this is the thread I found18:36
sixwheeledbeastjust now18:36
sixwheeledbeasthttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1352219&postcount=4318:36
peetahbut I would rather not: the simple fact that it works with a previous version of system-services tells me that I must have done something wrong somewhere while experimenting sometimes ago, thus it should be reversible18:37
sixwheeledbeastdo you have a backup <T8.x18:38
peetahand since it does not seem to raise any important issue except for flopswap, I'll continue digging18:38
sixwheeledbeastI would say it's the same corruption issue18:39
peetahWhen the prolem arose first, meaning when the new upstart system was introduced, I used previous backup, but each upgrade provoked the same effect18:39
peetahanyway I will fsck the partition to be sure18:40
peetahand to answer your question, no I don't have pre T8.x backups anymore18:41
sixwheeledbeastpeetah: IIRC the issue was T8.0 enabled fsck on boot which stock fsck was buggy. This caused NFS stale and other issues for some. All this is now fixed AFAIK. I can't see how upstart is to blame looking at the error in syslog.18:51
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: the issue was more like T8.0 did NOT run fsck during boot22:20
DocScrutinizer05iirc22:21
sixwheeledbeastNot AFAIK22:21
DocScrutinizer05since pali assumed fsck shouldn't get run unattended and would happen pretty rarely22:21
DocScrutinizer05a lot of people had broken fs then, since unclean shutdown is not as rare as assumed22:22
sixwheeledbeastSee changelog - T8.0 - added fsck option in mount-opts. T8.1 - do not run fsck, fixed booting with SD card inserted22:23
DocScrutinizer05hmm, then that's been 8.1, was even worse than 8.0, I guess22:24
sixwheeledbeastthen T9 has fixed fsck for ext partitions and reenabled fsck on boot22:24
sixwheeledbeasthttp://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#Tmaemo822:25
DocScrutinizer05sounds about correct, except we are on 8.3 right now, not 922:25
sixwheeledbeastT9.1 I believe22:25
DocScrutinizer05at least according to topic22:25
DocScrutinizer05ohmy22:26
sixwheeledbeasttook 4 month to update stable on /topic22:26
sixwheeledbeastafter mentioned it ;)22:26
sixwheeledbeasts/after/after I22:26
peetahsixwheeledbeast: by the way, my partitions are ok, so I'm back with "ohmd failing to load videoep"22:26
peetahexcept if the issue comes from the ubifs root partition: this one I don't know how to verify it22:27
DocScrutinizer05[2014-01-07 21:27:45] [Notice] -ChanServ- Flags +Aiortv were set on sixwheeledbeast in #maemo-ssu.22:27
sixwheeledbeast:) lol22:28
DocScrutinizer05/msg chanserv help22:30
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DocScrutinizer05/msg chanserv help flags22:30
DocScrutinizer05/msg chanserv help op22:31
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sixwheeledbeastnever done that before :D22:31
DocScrutinizer05np22:31
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DocScrutinizer05/msg chanserv op #maemo-ssu22:32
DocScrutinizer05/topic <new-topic>22:33
DocScrutinizer05/msg chanserv deop #maemo-ssu22:33
DocScrutinizer05unless you have a client that has a convenient textedit box option to edit topic22:34
DocScrutinizer05dunno purple22:34
sixwheeledbeast:nod: I will have to research OP on channels now :D oh pidgin has text box thing :)22:34
DocScrutinizer05http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml22:35
DocScrutinizer05http://toxin.jottit.com/freenode_chanserv_commands#cs0322:36
DocScrutinizer05research Op on channels?22:39
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sixwheeledbeastWell that was good .... pidgin crashed22:52
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