IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Monday, 2014-01-06

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merlin1991freemangordon: you're the man :)00:12
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solofightis there a way to lock all settings/app install/uninstall on my n900 for general users.... only when i gain root access it should allow such operations.... this way kids who play games wont change any settings because it needs password09:59
freemangordonsolofight: sorry, I posted in a wrong chan, will repost here10:01
freemangordon09:55 <freemangordon> solofight: while you are here - one thing you can help with (re Neo900):10:01
freemangordon09:56 <freemangordon> solofight: REed fmtxd needs code refactoring10:01
freemangordon<freemangordon> solofight: like replacing const strings with defines, moving dbus names to a header, adding -dev and -dbg packages10:01
freemangordon09:57 <freemangordon> solofight: you may take on that one if you like, the code is here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/commits/4d0f3cd802b247a51389941851cbd320f96f68aa10:01
freemangordonsolofight: If you want to do that, you need to "fork" the repo on gitorious, make the changes and request a merge10:02
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solofightfreemangordon: happy to help10:03
freemangordonsolofight: good :)10:04
solofighti will have to scale up though10:04
freemangordonhmm?10:04
solofightlike i already said - this will be my first time programming/customizing the base or base modules.. all these times i have been working with applicaitons which work on top of a base10:05
freemangordonsolofight: we talk code refactoring there, it is not exactly probramming ;). But it is up to you to decide if you want to pick the task ofc10:06
freemangordonprogramming even10:06
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solofight:P10:18
solofightIn main.c file there is a comment like   /* WTF did Nokia developer do here, why is CAL std ignored? */10:18
freemangordonI know, I wrote it ;P10:19
solofightfreemangordon: is there a document which i go though to get my self speed on this ? first i would like to understand the code (meaning the hierarchy of the code)10:23
solofightsay for example - what is the reason there is a etc directory here ? there is a init.d directory and a fmtx file which has a case inside10:24
solofightis this some standard which all apps for maemo should follow ?10:24
solofighthttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock&hl=en10:27
freemangordonsolofight: I am not aware of such a document, but if you don;t have understanding of what is *nix, I am afraid you'll have to do some self-learning first10:52
freemangordonsolofight: for example - what is inside /etc/init.d ;)10:52
solofightok so its the same folder structure that *nix follows10:52
freemangordonsolofight: it *IS* *nix, maemo is debian derivative10:53
solofightbut yes - i should agree that i do not have indepth knowledge about the purpose of each file in *nix10:53
solofightoh10:53
solofighti wonder then why debian can lock apps with a sudo and maemo cant !10:53
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DocScrutinizer05should we have pointed him to unix file permissions?13:36
DocScrutinizer05but actually I don't know which app or executable would be chmod go-x  on debian13:38
DocScrutinizer05it's usually more like "sorry, not in your path" and "sorry, missing permissions to open /dev/fubar"13:39
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: su?14:06
merlin1991~ugt14:11
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DocScrutinizer05jon_y: no, su of al commands is the one that most certainly NOT is blocked from execution by non-root users19:06
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freemangordonmerlin1991: DocScrutinizer05: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager/commit/088b7fc8e6f73b7708b2d2b1945b0d5c5497cc3822:30
freemangordon:P22:30
freemangordonthough I don't think this can be made any faster without changing the way HAM works :(22:35
dos1freemangordon: woah, nice22:35
* freemangordon wonders who had designed that22:35
freemangordondos1: with cssu-testing, cssu-thumb and extras-devel (besides stock) enabled repos, HAM needs 43 seconds to start22:36
freemangordonbefore that patch the time was 113 seconds22:36
dos1and by "the way HAM works" you mean...?22:37
freemangordondevice OC to 80522:37
freemangordondos1: the design is umm... terible22:37
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dos1figured that out, just being curious on what the design is22:38
freemangordondos1: apt-worker "parses" the whole apt cache, packge by package by version22:38
freemangordonand then "uploads" the list of packages that fit the criteria to HAM22:39
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: nice :-)22:40
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: yep, that's what I guess apt is usually doing22:42
DocScrutinizer05and it takes ages22:42
DocScrutinizer05I guess22:42
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I guess apt is using some brain when doing that - like hash tables or whatever to do it fast22:43
DocScrutinizer05:nod:22:43
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: while apt-worker (part of HAM) is ITERATING22:43
DocScrutinizer05yep22:43
freemangordonit is like doing select* from $table and then filtering the result22:44
DocScrutinizer05check out HAM options  in red pill mode. I seem to recall a few apt-related options, though most likely they are useless and/or broken22:44
freemangordoninstead of doing select * from $table where $condition22:44
DocScrutinizer05yes22:45
freemangordonwhich is plain stupid IMO22:45
DocScrutinizer05I know ;-)22:45
freemangordonunfortunately apt API is not well documented so I don;t think I can do it any better22:45
DocScrutinizer05:nod:22:46
freemangordonwell, I guess 60% improvement should be enough for now :)22:46
DocScrutinizer05aptitude?22:46
freemangordonwell, HAM as UI is ok22:46
DocScrutinizer05yes, I meant aptitude as base for a better API22:46
freemangordonmaybe , I have NFC22:47
freemangordonanyway, gtg22:47
freemangordonnight22:47
DocScrutinizer05never used aptitude but I guess it does all that "iterating" internally, in a smarter way22:47
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: o/22:47
DocScrutinizer05so: aptitude as a replacement for apt-worker22:48
DocScrutinizer05not as a better apt API for apt-worker22:48
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