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freemangordonok, fmtxd RE is done, just a bit of code cleanup and I'll push to gitorious12:52
freemangordon:)12:52
trxnice :)12:55
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MrPingufreemangordon: Nice, I received my 2nd N900 back (:13:21
MrPinguHowever it's on cssu stable, I can just enable testing repo right?13:24
MrPinguUpdated to testing,13:51
MrPinguinteresting thing: My American device has steps of 1,3,5,7,9 while my Dutch Device has 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 as sub frequencies on fm transmitter13:52
freemangordonMrPingu: yep, etsi/fcc13:53
freemangordonor something like that13:53
MrPinguagain fmtx-faker fixed that too (:13:53
MrPinguCan I manually flip the switch in Cal to make it european?13:54
freemangordonyou have make the whole device european, but I don;t know how13:55
freemangordonand it is better to not play with CAL13:55
freemangordonunless you know what you do13:55
MrPinguNah, not really :P13:55
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MrPinguI'll keep fmtx-faker then or waiting for your fixed fmtxd13:56
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MrPinguI suppose, your fmtxd does fix that, right?13:59
freemangordonMrPingu: "my" fmtxd fixes nothing ;)14:00
freemangordonit is just REed stock fmtxd14:00
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freemangordonit is to be decided what to be fixed and how14:00
MrPingufreemangordon: Only RE? One step in good direction14:01
freemangordon"Only"? yeah, only :)14:01
MrPinguI appreciate what you are doing, no complaints from my side :P14:02
MrPinguI really wonder what fmtx-faker does...14:02
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: fmtxd \o/14:23
freemangordon:nod:14:23
DocScrutinizer05I wonder if it#s about time to tackle CAL, do some real nasty dd restore14:25
DocScrutinizer05or test calvaria14:26
DocScrutinizer05if that thing has a write option meanwhile14:26
DocScrutinizer05(for the curious ones: there's a CAL image - actually a few identical ones - on maemo.cloud-7.de)14:27
DocScrutinizer05yes, I know it gives away my lockcode (unset), my MACs and my IMEI14:27
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* DocScrutinizer05 wonders what became of NAND-tester guy14:28
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: libcal has write support, as is my REed one14:35
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: maybe you should ask Pali to add "block write" support to cal-tool replacement14:36
DocScrutinizer05maybe we just did? ;-)14:36
DocScrutinizer05(ask...)14:36
DocScrutinizer05err nope, since he's not online14:36
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: he's not here14:36
freemangordonyep, his laptop is for repairment. again :)14:37
freemangordonremind me to never ever buy HP laptop ;)14:37
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: so you understood how to invalidate old record and point(?) to new one?14:37
freemangordonyep14:37
* DocScrutinizer05 glares at lenovo thinkpad14:38
DocScrutinizer05mind to enlighten me?14:38
freemangordonI have lenovo too, ubuntu12.04 flies on it14:38
DocScrutinizer05my fan doesn't fly anymore14:38
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: well, iirc it is some linked list14:38
DocScrutinizer05since I tried to blow dust out14:38
DocScrutinizer05hmm, nasty (linked list)14:39
freemangordonwell, every "block" has a version14:39
DocScrutinizer05I hoped they would just add a timestamp and use most recent one14:39
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, version will do as well14:40
freemangordonwriting a new block just adds a block with a higher version14:40
freemangordonreading picks the block with the highest version14:40
DocScrutinizer05:nod:14:40
DocScrutinizer05does it eventually consolidate/GC, or will it eventually just fail?14:41
DocScrutinizer05IOW, how do they handle filling up of partition with obsolete records?14:41
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freemangordonhmm, can't remember, need to look at the code14:42
DocScrutinizer05don't bother!14:42
DocScrutinizer05I can do that, when you point me at the code14:42
freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libcal/source/d4c5fd9293ddb693c9b032b4c084cd0343b3ea26:cal.c14:42
freemangordon:)14:42
DocScrutinizer05how about that git repo for RE'd / adapted-to-other-platform stuff that is not meant to go to CSSU-T?14:43
DocScrutinizer05you seemed to support the idea14:44
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: REed libs should go in CSSU IMO14:44
freemangordonfor applications I am fine14:44
DocScrutinizer05into CSSU-T/S only when they fix bugs14:44
freemangordonhmm, maybe14:44
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: actually I am fine, but we need someone to make that repo14:45
DocScrutinizer05you always comlain that we have not enough manpower to maintain lots of stuff. Thus we shouldn't try to maintain and QA stuff in CSSU-T just for "but it's RE'ed now!", as long as the RE'ed bit isn't needed for a bugfix/feature-enhance14:46
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I would really want that discussion to happen when there are at least merlin1991 and Pali here :)14:47
DocScrutinizer05and by feature-enhancement I mean stuff that actually gives added value to Joe AverageUSER14:47
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: both OMP and adeclock fall in this category :)14:48
DocScrutinizer05added value that is *needed*14:48
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: lots of users need portrait mode ;)14:48
freemangordonits tricky14:48
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: anyway, lemme finish fmtxd14:49
DocScrutinizer05yeah, portrait mode is tricky to decide. I don't want to see it enabled by default, but since it's hard to add it as an optional package, the functions could go into default HD14:49
DocScrutinizer05yeah, finish fmtxd :-) While I try to finally get some food and shopping done14:50
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DocScrutinizer05o/14:50
MrPinguI think portrait and such is handled well with the applet (:14:50
DocScrutinizer05yes, from a UX perspective it's 100% OK14:51
MrPinguhowever, the most important for convenient update for portrait would be the vkbd14:51
freemangordonMrPingu: unfortunately noone is willing to finish that support (in vkb)14:52
MrPinguI know there's packages in some thread on TMO, but they never were included in cssu afaik14:52
MrPinguI don't use portrait so I couldn't care less14:53
MrPinguJust saying that vkb is the most important thing for good/proper portrait support IMO14:53
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: merlin1991: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/commit/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad9515:54
freemangordon:P15:54
DocScrutinizer05:-)15:55
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arceanfreemangordon: gj :)16:57
arceanbtw this is awesome https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:main.c#L75 :D16:57
freemangordon:D16:57
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freemangordonarcean: the code needs some more cleanup (a couple of FIXME points)16:58
freemangordonbut that one should be 100% identical to stock fmtxd16:58
arceanI'll check it later on device16:58
freemangordonok16:59
freemangordonarcean: BTW there is one more binary I'll have to RE, fmtx_client that is16:59
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freemangordonbut it is some 7k x86 binary, I guess I'll need 2-3 days16:59
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MrPingufreemangordon: what do you have as region in /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063/region18:14
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: hm? https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:main.c#L17518:43
DocScrutinizer05ooh https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:main.c#L17518:44
DocScrutinizer05I don't think you write 0x00 terminator to a sysfs file18:45
DocScrutinizer05rather 0x13 CR, if *anything*18:45
DocScrutinizer05echo -n "1" >/sys/*/*/*/*/rds_pi18:47
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: chech https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:fmtx-object.h#L1318:58
freemangordoncheck18:59
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: all other writes write \0 as well18:59
freemangordonMrPingu: 419:00
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: also this https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:main.c#L16219:00
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: it is inconsistent, that is WTF19:01
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I guess it's pretty irrelevant to write a 0x00 to a sysnode, but in doubt I'd blame https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:fmtx-object.h#L13 to be buggy19:02
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: That macro does exactly what the original code does19:03
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: for example http://pastebin.com/HLgs4pAD19:05
DocScrutinizer05yes, I bet on that, and I bet it also looks like the original, but I'd call that a bug with zilch impact19:05
DocScrutinizer05I don't think sysnodes are defined to need a 0x00 or 0x13 ior whatever at end of a write, when they are bool19:06
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: BTW I think I discovered another bug, here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:dbus.c#L32819:06
freemangordonthe marshaller is registered after https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/fmtx-middleware/source/159991e1ee55163ede4ea7252adfa6a0bb6cad95:dbus.c#L30919:07
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DocScrutinizer05total gibberish to me19:08
freemangordonand there is a warning in syslog (No marshaller for signal "Condition"...) or something19:08
freemangordonin stock fmtxd that is19:08
freemangordon(in RE one as well)19:08
freemangordonarcean_: ping19:09
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: "No marshaller for signature of signal 'Condition'"19:10
DocScrutinizer05yep, then it's clearly a bug19:10
DocScrutinizer05wonder how it works then19:10
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I guess by the time that marshaller is needed it is already registered19:11
DocScrutinizer05onless moon phase in sync with battery level19:12
DocScrutinizer05the "please enable debugging, we get a race somewhere that breaks stuff, when you don't" case19:12
* DocScrutinizer05 seems to have rad that exact text just some 3 days ago19:13
DocScrutinizer05read*19:13
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: actually I don;t think there is a race condition, g_main_loop doesn't run by the time that function is called19:14
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: could you please try to keep const strings out of source and into either header of .c or even into .h #def19:14
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: this sort of bugs is prone to races, generally19:15
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: code needs refactoring, that is for sure19:15
DocScrutinizer05maybe this particular case is immune19:15
freemangordonI think it is19:16
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I was hoping someone to take on the "refactoring" part19:16
freemangordonstill hoping though :)19:17
DocScrutinizer05for sure not me, you'll hate my style19:17
DocScrutinizer05I didn't do any serious c coding during the last 4 years or more19:18
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: see, for some time I'll feel sick everytime I see that code, so it will be a while until I get back to it :D19:18
DocScrutinizer05anyway, GREAT WORK DUDE!!!19:19
DocScrutinizer05:-)))19:19
DocScrutinizer05also spotted some nasty alsa mixer stuff in it19:19
DocScrutinizer05so we finally get to know how this single case of mixer handling works19:20
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: actually it only sets a callback19:20
freemangordonto enable pilot tone when the playback is stopped19:20
DocScrutinizer05that sounds pretty weird19:22
DocScrutinizer05o/ afk19:22
MrPingufreemangordon: working device has 2 on region19:52
MrPingunot-working device has 4. So that value is irrelevant :/19:52
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