IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2013-06-20

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DocScrutinizer05idont has explained that busybox-power now handles all alternatives dynamically, which aiui should result in less conflicts with e.g swapon or procps pkgs. CSSU team might want to evaluate this, and reconsider the pros and cons of including busybox-power to CSSU10:40
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: "idont has explained" - did I miss something? where is that?10:41
DocScrutinizer05partially in /query10:41
DocScrutinizer05partially on #maemo10:42
DocScrutinizer05I'd still opt for keeping the original busybox in rootfs and *adding* busybox-power to /opt/usr/bin and maybe bindmount it over the orginal busybox at end of system init, for various reasons10:44
DocScrutinizer05one of those reasons: space requirements in rootfs10:45
DocScrutinizer05another one: compatibility of initscripts, which shouldn't use any of busybox-power extended features10:46
DocScrutinizer05this second point is arguable of course10:46
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: i guess rootfs space considerations shouldn't weight much when it comes to OS upgrades10:47
DocScrutinizer05I'd prefer a "/usr/bin/busybox swapon <extended option>" over a plain "swapon <extended option>" in any init script10:48
DocScrutinizer05but again, that's just me10:49
DocScrutinizer05we should discuss this, *if* we plan to eventually actually include busybox-power to CSSU10:49
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: rootfs space considerations are a major concern for every CSSU patch10:50
DocScrutinizer05we can't assume that every user has kept 5MB reserved in / just for CSSU update purposes10:51
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: it is about 200-300k10:53
DocScrutinizer05if we could combine any such update that needs considerable amounts of /-space with major optification cleanup that frees at least same amount of /-space, then we're absolutely on the green half10:53
DocScrutinizer05;-)10:53
freemangordonPali: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1353271&postcount=134110:55
freemangordonthat makes no sense to me :(10:56
Palitry to ask luf10:56
freemangordonPali: why luf, iirc PA changes are yours10:57
Palinot really, my change is only increased size of memory allocation10:58
Paliand this my change does not make sense with above problem10:58
Paliluf commited more other patches10:58
freemangordonhmm, ok10:59
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DocScrutinizer05check packaging, paricularly optification. We seen PA fuckups before that originated from PA plugins living in /opt and thus startup of PA been butchered11:11
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T_Xhi, I think one of the recent cssu updates broke voip for me. even though I have two sip accounts enabled, I can't actually select them for calling someone12:40
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DocScrutinizer05T_X: check:13:38
DocScrutinizer05~jrtools13:38
infobotmethinks jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools13:38
DocScrutinizer05it has a few lines regarding that topic13:38
DocScrutinizer05T_X: which app manegr did you use to do the cssu update?13:40
DocScrutinizer05manager*13:40
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T_XDocScrutinizer05: I believe it was the standard maemo gui app manager (forgot its name)13:52
T_Xhmm, was I supposed to still have the CSSU updater in the applications menu?13:53
T_X(looks like I now broke everything after clicking it again after a few months now)13:53
T_Xwell, not everything, but the gui at least13:54
DocScrutinizer05cssu enabler? shouldn't break sth13:55
T_XDocScrutinizer05: these are my broken packages now: http://pastebin.com/Nebss05Z13:57
DocScrutinizer05I think that's quite unusual14:00
T_XDocScrutinizer05: I'm getting the feeling that the package maemo-optify-runonce_0.10-32+0m5_all.deb is causing my n900 to reboot before completion: http://pastebin.com/etY2cGgm14:00
DocScrutinizer05maemo-optify-runonce should NOT get installed14:04
DocScrutinizer05I dunno why apt suggests that to you, but at least apt has NO as default answer14:04
DocScrutinizer05to me it seems pretty clear that your apt/dpkg db got messed up by doing sth that better wasn't done14:06
DocScrutinizer05like removing mp-community-pr14:06
Drathirmornin...14:24
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