| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: http://yle.fi/uutiset/accenture_announces_oulu_closure_275_job_cuts/6421842 :-(( | 00:00 |
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| Pali | updated 18.12.2012 15:43 | 00:00 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: lets use 10 more minutes for -S. Not for packages, but still to have some discussion | 00:00 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 00:01 |
| merlin1991 | so what's up with -S ? | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | the problem as I see it is -S is effectively unmaintained, IDK if it is because of the problems with the repos or something else | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: we might tackle Nokia guy Pekka directly, *maybe* he can do *something* for us to salvage ssu repo | 00:01 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, if you have time, try | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eventually, yes | 00:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: last update was ... umm. 5 months ago? | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I need to discuss it with a few peers first | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pestering Pekka is not generally a brilliant approach | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: maybe you can find another hook/link to matti in EX(!)t-Accenture | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | W*T*F!!! | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: so? what do you think, is it because of the repo problems? | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good news every other day | 00:04 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: repos | 00:04 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 sighs and notices he missed to get a new bottle of Absolut, since weeks | 00:05 | |
| merlin1991 | chemist is still around, I got hold of him the other day when I uploaded (again) the testing packages, but he still has a problem with his account, but that shold be fixed soon | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | ok. though I am afraid that if there is no new -S in 1-2-3 weeks, there will be no users left to update :) | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: when do we plan new -T for? the same for the next meeting. | 00:06 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: I am asking because I want to do new -thumb before the new -T, so users won't be forced to upgrade twice | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | esp GTK | 00:08 |
| luf | ~GTK | 00:08 |
| infobot | now there's a purty toolkit or fugly in the worst way | 00:08 |
| merlin1991 | I'll start working on it this weekend, but I expect it to land next wekk | 00:08 |
| merlin1991 | s/wekk/week/ | 00:09 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: I'll start working on it this weekend, but I expect it to land next week | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | ok | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I guess we should discuss the kernel stuff in the meanwhile. | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: what about meeting? | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | after the next -T? | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | makes sense | 00:10 |
| luf | freemangordon: I fix it as you wish but I make a point to my todo to fix shlibs for libpng and zlib / revert that commit in libxml for cssu-devel after the -T | 00:10 |
| luf | freemangordon: are you ok with it? | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | luf: not sure I get it | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | revert what commit? | 00:12 |
| luf | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libxml2/commit/33edcb04a5e2f89afbe4cbc459cdd3d7449394f4 | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | luf: iiuc, new -T will go out with libxml2 which is on gitorious now, and you'll change shlibs in libpng and libxml2. After the new -T you'lle revert that commit(libxml2 one). correct? | 00:16 |
| luf | freemangordon: Correct. Keep it as is now for new -T. | 00:17 |
| freemangordon | luf: zlib also needs Conflicts: | 00:18 |
| luf | I'll keep also shlibs till new -T | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | oh, it is there | 00:18 |
| luf | zlib already has the Conflicts ... | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | yep, sorry | 00:18 |
| luf | I'll do all changes (shlibs + revert) after new -T | 00:19 |
| freemangordon | ok, if that does not bring problems, why not | 00:19 |
| luf | It's tested as is ... | 00:19 |
| freemangordon | luf: not sure it is tested, don;t forget HAM | 00:20 |
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| freemangordon | luf: in the meanwhile I'll try to remember why I did it that way | 00:21 |
| luf | I hope merlin1991 will try it before publishing new -T :) | 00:21 |
| merlin1991 | luf: thats what -t-t is for :) | 00:22 |
| luf | freemangordon: from MPOV don't waste your time with just packaging ... | 00:22 |
| luf | merlin1991: :D | 00:23 |
| freemangordon | :D | 00:23 |
| merlin1991 | my todo has quite some stuff now | 00:23 |
| luf | Ok. I'm leaving now. #3 and #4 is for next meeting ... | 00:23 |
| merlin1991 | investigate stable upload, investigate libc import, investigate installing of -t, build new -t | 00:24 |
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| Pali | merlin1991, DocScrutinizer05: if you do not have time for maemo package interface, can you give some admin rights for package web interface? | 00:31 |
| Pali | I'd like to see kernel-power in extras-testing and extras | 00:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (re ssu repo gpg key) SUBJECT: "RE: N900 repository GPG key renewal issue" body: "... Samu and Mikko will take care of this from now on .Br ,Kari " | 08:28 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: is that good news? | 10:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kinda | 10:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | better than "accenture closed and nobody answering pali's mail anymore" | 10:30 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: confirmed that backupmenu doesn't work for me | 16:17 |
| kerio | (i upgraded initrd-progs from cssu-devel, iirc) | 16:19 |
| Raimu | kerio, I have that red glitch too and I recall pulling initrd-progs in from c-d. | 16:35 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: what is the planned version for the netx -T? | 17:36 |
| freemangordon | *next | 17:36 |
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| freemangordon | shit, cannot build gtk with latest libpixman :( | 21:00 |
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| freemangordon | stupid qemu | 21:02 |
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| freemangordon | uh, it is not pixman. libpng? | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | yep, it is libpng | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | Pali: merlin1991: what to do ^^^? | 21:06 |
| Pali | I found color problem in text2screen | 21:07 |
| Pali | trying to fix it | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: yes, we know (the problems) :P | 21:08 |
| Pali | it looks like original text2screen needs color arguments in rgb565 | 21:08 |
| Pali | and new text2screen needs in rgb888 | 21:08 |
| Pali | and then new text2screen convert rgb888 to rgb565 and fill it to framebuffer | 21:08 |
| freemangordon | Pali: my question was - I am unable to build gtk with latest libpng, because of the NEON optimizations causing qemu to bail out | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | Pali: you pixman to convert | 21:09 |
| Pali | freemangordon, what crash? gcc?? | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | Pali: (question continued)... How to workaround that? | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | no, gtk-update-icon-cache | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | bot in ARMEL and THUMB targets | 21:10 |
| Pali | on device? | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | *both | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | no | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | in SB | 21:10 |
| Pali | and why you need gtk-update-icon-cache in SB? | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: gtk build needs it | 21:11 |
| Pali | for compilation gtk? I bet you do not need icon cache for compiling gtk library or applications which using gtk | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: it needs it for the build-in icons AIUI | 21:13 |
| Pali | cache? | 21:14 |
| Pali | really try to disable it | 21:14 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: how, there is no configure switch for that. And that generation results in a .h file, so I guess that step can't be skipped | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I think the only solution is to upgrade qemu | 21:21 |
| Pali | now I do not understand | 21:21 |
| Pali | what is gtk-update-icon-cach? | 21:21 |
| Pali | armel binary in gtk package? | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | yes | 21:21 |
| Pali | called by who? and when? | 21:21 |
| Pali | by which package/configure/...? | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | it is build and the called to generate some .h file | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | Pali: will be back in 10 minutes, will explain | 21:22 |
| Pali | ok | 21:22 |
| Pali | and why it crashing? because it is linked with library which using NEON instructions? | 21:22 |
| Pali | and is needed only for generating one file? | 21:23 |
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| Pali | you can compile i386 version and use some SBOX env to overwrite it | 21:23 |
| Pali | or you can generate that file somewhere and disable generation at compile time | 21:24 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: why so complicated? downgrading to stock makes compilation work, but that's not the point | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | Pali: is there a wiki on gitorious? | 22:01 |
| Pali | yes, there is wifi on gitorious | 22:01 |
| freemangordon | Pali: well, I'll just make a note in the project description that for compilation one should use stock libpng | 22:03 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: why modest will be included in next -T? | 22:58 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^? | 22:59 |
| Pali | going to look on gitorious | 22:59 |
| freemangordon | Pali: there are changes, but it has not passed through -devel AFAIK | 22:59 |
| Pali | there are 3 commits taken from PR1.3 modest (but which was not in included into CSSU) | 23:00 |
| Pali | and next 3 trivial commits | 23:01 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ok, but who tested that? | 23:01 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/commit/00b58523370207de535839ffa9457b679400d51d | 23:01 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/commit/6e9aa6604718ed7d231493d9ca1852b8035cf196 | 23:01 |
| kerio | freemangordon: nokia, duh :P | 23:01 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/commit/6e009dea3b4f7e3a570d4a6859dd7dfd42b378e9 | 23:01 |
| Pali | it is not in -devel yet? | 23:01 |
| Pali | merlin1991: ping | 23:01 |
| freemangordon | Pali: why is https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/commit/6e9aa6604718ed7d231493d9ca1852b8035cf196 needed? | 23:03 |
| Pali | it is normal (in some RFC too?) that texts like: Original message, From, To, Cc is not translated | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | ok | 23:04 |
| Pali | and also date is in some RFC format | 23:04 |
| Pali | (not translated) | 23:04 |
| Pali | maybe RFC2822 (?) | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | ok, got it :) | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | Pali: could you build that and push in -devel? | 23:05 |
| Pali | I have started scratchbox, so now I can :-) | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | good | 23:06 |
| freemangordon | :) | 23:06 |
| freemangordon | Pali: the fix in gtk is for missing icons in app manager for newly installed apps, ain;t? | 23:06 |
| Pali | yes and also that in accounts dialog is some line always selected | 23:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: osso-xterm is not in -devel too | 23:07 |
| freemangordon | along with vte | 23:07 |
| Pali | both fixes comes from nokia gtk tree (but was not included in pr1.3) | 23:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: yeah, I wanted to be sure I got it right | 23:08 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: tomorow I'll try to build microb-engine, mind to share the git repo again? | 23:08 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/microb-engine/merge_requests/1 | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | hmm, how to apply that to my local clone? | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | (sorry, forgot) | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | Pali: got to run, pleas upload modest, osso-xterm, vte and whatever is missing in -devel, we must have some testing before pushing to -T IMO | 23:11 |
| Pali | freemangordon, you cannot apply it to your clone | 23:12 |
| Pali | you must clone my repo | 23:12 |
| Pali | it has rewritten history, so you cannot merge it | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | Pali: that is why I asked for the address :) | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: that one https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-microb-engine ? | 23:13 |
| Pali | yes | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | ok | 23:13 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, I cannot compile modest, there is not debian/control | 23:16 |
| Pali | it looks like you removed it by one commit | 23:16 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/commit/bea7d2b68e34a2360a650933709a96b36f74acb2 | 23:16 |
| freemangordon | Pali: symlink it ;) | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | there are a couple of debian/control.xxxxx files | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | symlink control->control.fremantle :P | 23:19 |
| Pali | why you removed it? | 23:19 |
| Pali | can I add symlink to git? | 23:20 |
| freemangordon | Pali: it is not supposed to be there, this is git repo, not a source package | 23:21 |
| Pali | symlink is supported by git | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | Pali: just symlink locally, don;t push to gitorious | 23:21 |
| Pali | ok, but why? | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | because there are several supported platforms | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | there is no default | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | IMO. and that is why i've removed the symlink | 23:22 |
| Pali | on freamantle cssu is fremantle default | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I think we are modest upstream ;) | 23:22 |
| Pali | no, upstream is modest without gtk | 23:23 |
| Pali | s/gtk/hildon/ | 23:23 |
| infobot | Pali meant: no, upstream is modest without hildon | 23:23 |
| Pali | freemangordon, look: https://gitorious.org/modest/modest | 23:23 |
| freemangordon | well modest in hildon then. honestly I don;t see a reason that symlink to stay on gitorious | 23:23 |
| Pali | modest 5.0: remove all hildon/maemo code | 23:24 |
| Pali | * use webkit by default | 23:24 |
| Pali | etc.. | 23:24 |
| freemangordon | Pali: check debian/control, there are dependencies to libhildon ;) | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/modest/modest/blobs/master/debian/control | 23:26 |
| freemangordon | Pali: latest commit is an year old | 23:26 |
| Pali | Blob history: Wednesday March 03 2010 | 23:27 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: well, if you insist, provide default debian/control. but I still think this is not a good idea :P | 23:31 |
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| Pali | I builded modest | 23:32 |
| Pali | going to push it | 23:32 |
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| freemangordon | cool | 23:45 |
| Pali | libvte pushed | 23:46 |
| freemangordon | even cooler :D | 23:46 |
| kerio | 0 K | 23:47 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I hope you'll announce that on TMO so guinea pigs to test | 23:47 |
| freemangordon | errm... users, users :D | 23:47 |
| Pali | ah, no vte is freezed in /srv/apt/cssu-devel/incoming/ on merlin server | 23:50 |
| Pali | merlin1991: ping | 23:50 |
| Pali | freemangordon, anything else to compile? | 23:52 |
| Pali | osso-xterm was pushed to | 23:52 |
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