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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: you think he ever grows a brain? | 02:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or will he wank on in his bizarre US-patent-lawyer games where all that counts is "I found a tricker way to read what's been written by somebody we don't care about anymore" | 02:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: >>...do your best to help that very same community last<< That's a dangerous request. I'm sure he's absolutely totally convinced he's doing exactly that | 02:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | alas he also seems to think he's the only one who understands what's killing community, and in his world that's for sure not him | 02:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | btw that rings a bell here, I think I've detected same mindset before | 02:56 |
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| Estel_ | because having separate Board and Council bodies was perfectly fine idea, from the beginning, and trying to wanr about it was considered... trolling? | 06:02 |
| Estel_ | s/wanr/warn/ | 06:02 |
| infobot | Estel_ meant: because having separate Board and Council bodies was perfectly fine idea, from the beginning, and trying to warn about it was considered... trolling? | 06:02 |
| Estel_ | more on topic for this channel: I'll be boring again about phone-ui, but why, oh why, is it ignoring portait/landscape locks (no matter if locked to portrait or landscape)? | 06:03 |
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| Estel_ | this shitty thing deciding to jump from landscape into portrait and/or back again is sole reason for my one and only situations of "missing calls due to phone becoming unresponsive", nothing else | 06:04 |
| Estel_ | not to mention fun situation when "accept" button become "reject" after landscape->potrait, or opposite | 06:04 |
| Estel_ | or more fun situations, when reject becomes accept + loudspeaker | 06:05 |
| Estel_ | that one is unlimited ammount of fun! | 06:05 |
| Estel_ | amount, even | 06:05 |
| Estel_ | probably ammo was freud'ish mistake here | 06:06 |
| Estel_ | is there any freakin way to force phone-ui during incoming calls to be always *either* landscape or portrait? | 06:06 |
| Estel_ | IDFC which one, just something constant | 06:06 |
| Estel_ | of course it hapilly ignores blacklist/whitelist on transitions.ini, too | 06:07 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 uses phoneui-menu option | 06:49 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since 5 years | 06:49 |
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| amiconn | Speaking about unresponsiveness... I wonder what's wrong with fennec | 10:31 |
| amiconn | It's not usable at all | 10:31 |
| amiconn | When starting, it takes about 30 seconds until the UI appears. But UI appearing doesn't mean it's usable. Starting to type a URL right away does nothing for about another minute or so. Only then it starts processing the input (letters appearing) - at the whopping speed of about one character per two seconds... | 10:33 |
| amiconn | That's with cssu-thumb and fennec 17 (thumb compiled), but all earlier versions I tried behaved the same (except 1.1 - that one was a little faster) | 10:34 |
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| Raimu | Fennec 1.1 ? | 10:57 |
| amiconn | More than two years ago iirc | 11:03 |
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| Pali | merlin1991, I got another build mail | 17:09 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: yep | 17:10 |
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| merlin1991 | and this time we have http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/r/rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait/ | 17:10 |
| merlin1991 | :) | 17:10 |
| Pali | merlin1991, btw why are you trying to push version 1.0? it has version string bug | 17:10 |
| Pali | include 1.0-1 | 17:10 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: I'm repushing T7 | 17:11 |
| merlin1991 | since the maemo.org repo is stuck at T6 | 17:11 |
| merlin1991 | new stuff after we have a proper repo again | 17:11 |
| Pali | so after migration maemo.org lose some packages? | 17:12 |
| merlin1991 | yes testing is @ T6 and stable is at 4.1 | 17:13 |
| Pali | ok, so you only imported same packages which was already there before migration... | 17:13 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 17:13 |
| Pali | did you used your mirror? (to have same md5sum of packages)? | 17:13 |
| merlin1991 | I saved the packages locally when uploading | 17:14 |
| merlin1991 | I'm uploading the very same build :) | 17:14 |
| kerio | oh, is community-testing built? | 17:14 |
| Pali | so md5sum will be different as on your mirror? | 17:14 |
| kerio | i didn't know that | 17:14 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: md5sums will be exactly the same, those are the files I uploaded last time | 17:15 |
| Pali | then ok :-) | 17:15 |
| Pali | merlin1991: and another quesion it is possible to put CSSU repo to maemo package interface? http://maemo.org/packages/repository/ | 17:15 |
| merlin1991 | possible yes, how todo that though I have nfc | 17:15 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: The result can be read in 0x5f-5e. The result is a signed number with an LSB value of 1.225 μV. | 18:19 |
| kerio | what do you think this means? 16-bit two's complement value? | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, that's a signed int16, with unit "1,225 uV" | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can simply cast to int16 | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | typecast | 18:23 |
| kerio | one does not simply typecast to int16 in python :P | 18:37 |
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| merlin1991 | kerio: how do you read in the data aka where is it stored? | 18:45 |
| kerio | merlin1991: two ints, for high and low byte | 18:45 |
| merlin1991 | yeah but HOW | 18:45 |
| kerio | wut | 18:46 |
| kerio | what do you mean how? | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | i2cget(foo, bar) | 18:46 |
| kerio | eh, not quite | 18:46 |
| kerio | the python-smbus module isn't compiled in i2c-tools :( | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: he reads from a register dump in /sys | 18:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is fubar in itself | 18:47 |
| kerio | hm, can i2cget read a signed value? | 18:47 |
| merlin1991 | well my main question is in which python datatype the stuff lands initally | 18:47 |
| kerio | merlin1991: int | 18:47 |
| merlin1991 | because depending on that you can use struct.* stuff to "typecast" | 18:47 |
| kerio | ew :< | 18:48 |
| kerio | to be fair, it's probably the most correct thing to do | 18:48 |
| kerio | except not quite, i'd have to convert the ints into a single string | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | struct.unpack('something', struct.pack('ii', int1, int2)) | 18:49 |
| kerio | hm, python-smbus can't read "signed" values anyway | 18:50 |
| kerio | merlin1991: mmmmh | 18:50 |
| kerio | i have to say, i don't really like it :< | 18:50 |
| kerio | return ((cres + 0x8000) % 0x10000 - 0x8000) * 1.225 | 18:51 |
| merlin1991 | or just pacth pyhton-smbus :D | 18:51 |
| kerio | aww yea | 18:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: that "2s-complement" looks rather nifty | 18:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and - even worse - *correct* ;-P | 18:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just wondering how sysfs registerdump will provide the 0x5f-5e | 18:55 |
| kerio | as separate registers | 18:56 |
| kerio | but i made my code completely agnostic | 18:56 |
| kerio | because it just does (high << 8 | low) | 18:56 |
| kerio | so if low is actually a word, and high is 0, it still works | 18:56 |
| kerio | (obviously you have to make sure that high is set to 0 if it's "missing") | 18:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that all implies the register dump would actually provide that range | 18:59 |
| kerio | it does, i checked :) | 18:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ugh | 18:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | could you hand me the bus,chip addr please? | 19:00 |
| kerio | "uV" is perfectly acceptable as a replacement for "µV", right? | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | right | 19:00 |
| kerio | ~bq27k-detail | 19:00 |
| infobot | it has been said that bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2 | 19:00 |
| kerio | ^ there | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sigh | 19:00 |
| kerio | :P | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, then not | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | too lazy | 19:00 |
| kerio | 2 0x55, apparently | 19:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 19:01 |
| kerio | anyway, even parsing that value is silly | 19:01 |
| kerio | because to do a board offset calibration, you must not use the battery | 19:01 |
| kerio | but you must use the battery to talk to bq27k | 19:01 |
| merlin1991 | when I set up my awesome I thought 2 screens with 4 virtual screens each should be enough, right? | 19:02 |
| merlin1991 | turns out I'll prob need 6 virtual screens each :D | 19:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/9059c48d09 FWIW | 19:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any sysfs register dump should probably provide exactly same output, maybe truncated to significant range | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/00ee601987 | 19:06 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: are sysfs nodes supposed to be human-readable? | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, on unix every file is supposed to be human-readable, except binaries and device-nodes | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so: generally yes | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | optimized for parsing by shellscripts etc, but still human-readable | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AWESOME! -> watch --differences=cumulative -n 5 i2cdump -y 2 0x55 | 19:11 |
| kerio | neat | 19:12 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: it's a whole new thing! :D http://privatepaste.com/33038b135e | 19:13 |
| kerio | instead of using a Bq27kList i could just make something that calls i2cget when values are requested | 19:16 |
| kerio | caching the values, obviously :) | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as expected: the range 0x30-0x6f has quite some interesting values | 19:18 |
| kerio | yeah but they're all internals | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, exactly. That's why they're so interesting ;-) | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm looking for a realtime clock of any kind, that must have a range of days at least | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also I'm looking for an internal "work copy" of eeprom config values like ILMD | 19:26 |
| kerio | it could also be interesting to write there | 19:28 |
| kerio | to see what happens | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | write error | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-P | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I just tried to enable EEPROM programming, but I'm too lazy to look up the correct sequence | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tried writing 1 to 0x6e | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which worked but didn't exactly change a thing | 19:34 |
| kerio | i2cset 2 0x55 0x6e `dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1 count=1` | 19:34 |
| kerio | repeat until enabled | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | haha | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway cya l8r | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# i2cset -y 2 0x55 0x6e 0x01 | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# i2cset -y 2 0x55 0x76 0x2a | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Error: Write failed | 19:36 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: you have to write 0xdd to enable eeprom writing | 19:38 |
| kerio | i2cset -y 2 0x55 0x6e 0xdd | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just in time to keep me from afk | 19:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# i2cset -y 2 0x55 0x6e 0xdd | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# i2cset -y 2 0x55 0x76 0x2a | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# | 19:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 70: 2d 77 3c 6d 7b bb 2a 77 96 3a 38 89 43 2d 42 7c -w<m{?*w?:8?C-B| | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as expected | 19:39 |
| kerio | does bq27k work, in the meantime? | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably sticky til next full reset | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it gone quite quiet | 19:40 |
| kerio | :( | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. not much changes anymore | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# i2cset -y 2 0x55 0x6e 0x00 | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 0x76 back to 0x2d | 19:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | F*CK! | 19:41 |
| kerio | :( | 19:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/a95bce7093 (see ILMD, but also note that NUTTIN except 0x 60 61 64 66 is changing anymore in i2cdump) | 19:46 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: full reset time? | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, as soon as I disable EEPROM prog it reverts to normal, incl ILMD | 19:47 |
| kerio | i see | 19:47 |
| kerio | have you tried reading the value? | 19:47 |
| kerio | ...yes you have | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dump is reading *all* values | 19:48 |
| kerio | hm, maybe reading it as a single byte matters? | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's sticky as long as prog mode | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I don't think reading changes anything except for flashing EEPROM | 19:49 |
| kerio | ah what? python 2.5 didn't have str.format yet? | 19:49 |
| kerio | what the balls | 19:49 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: if i had to guess, reading the value is setting some internal address pointer, to know what to program | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but since no Vpp, no programming at all | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | disbaling prog by writing 0xdf (instead 0xdd) has same effect as writing 00 to same location | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | disabling* | 19:54 |
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| Estel_ | in the meantime, kerio, congratulate for sending your candidacy for Council! | 22:28 |
| kerio | :D | 22:28 |
| kerio | i doubt i'm a valid candidate though | 22:28 |
| Estel_ | You have my vote, which means that you will hate me, as it's equal to others stopping voting for you :P | 22:29 |
| Estel_ | seriously though, yes, you're valid candidate | 22:29 |
| kerio | no karma | 22:29 |
| Estel_ | have you read annoucement. :P | 22:29 |
| kerio | nope | 22:29 |
| Estel_ | if your account is more than 3 months old, you're valid | 22:29 |
| Estel_ | due to karma being not calculated properly | 22:30 |
| kerio | yay | 22:31 |
| Estel_ | it means half our spambots are egligle too, but, whatever | 22:31 |
| Estel_ | now we *only*need voting to make Council members = Board and say goodbye to that ridicolous nonsense which is happening around board<->council contacts | 22:32 |
| Estel_ | or board<->anyone else | 22:32 |
| kerio | board is a legal entity, though | 22:32 |
| Estel_ | sure, we need to vote for people that will represent us in legal entity | 22:32 |
| Estel_ | one guy who isn't sure if we're able to vote him out + one guy who doesn't know what maemo is and want new maemo products to compete with android is enough | 22:33 |
| Estel_ | for +- eternity | 22:33 |
| Estel_ | not to mention both being not appointed by voting, actually | 22:34 |
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| fw190 | merlin1991: if this wasn't reported. I did a small reflash and had today in the mornig latest T installed and reading that you uploaded the T7.2 I started to update but the system is missing hildon desktop and ke-recv | 23:39 |
| merlin1991 | *missing* had and ke-recv? | 23:39 |
| fw190 | hildon desktop (>=1:2.2.146-2) | 23:40 |
| fw190 | that is what it wants | 23:41 |
| fw190 | and ke-recv (>=3.19-15.7) | 23:41 |
| merlin1991 | oh I just noticed I have ke-recv and h-d in subfolders inside my T7 folder | 23:41 |
| fw190 | ;) | 23:41 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc an scp *.deb *tar.gz ... didn#t pick that up | 23:41 |
| fw190 | don't knwo what you say but good that you know how to fix it ;) | 23:42 |
| fw190 | anyway will report fi all will go well | 23:42 |
| merlin1991 | fw190: I basically had all T7 packages in a folder and just uploaded that again, not realizing that ke-recv and hildon-desktop were a layer deeper in their own subfolders, so didn't get uploaded | 23:44 |
| fw190 | ah ok | 23:44 |
| merlin1991 | I've uploaded them now, should arrive in the repo within 5 mins | 23:45 |
| merlin1991 | yup both are imported | 23:46 |
| merlin1991 | update the catalogues and you should be ready to upgrade | 23:46 |
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| fw190 | merlin1991: nice and shiny T7.2 on my N900. Thank you ;) | 23:53 |
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