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luf | I need to install CSSU-stable 3.0. Any idea how to do that? | 10:21 |
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kerio | ...that's pretty specific | 10:23 |
kerio | start from stock, install each exact version | 10:24 |
kerio | installing the 3.0 metapackage won't work | 10:27 |
luf | kerio: How to easily find the "each exact version"? | 10:30 |
kerio | luf: apt-cache show mp-fremantle-community-pr | 10:46 |
kerio | and then go look at the dependencies of the version you want | 10:46 |
kerio | and then swap every >= for a == in your mind | 10:46 |
luf | I was affraid you said that :D | 10:46 |
kerio | luf: to be fair, it's easily automable | 10:47 |
kerio | luf: note that you might not necessarily get the exact same thing as -Smaemo3 | 10:48 |
kerio | because dependencies can be pulled in, and they'll default to the latest version | 10:48 |
pwnguin | u/part | 10:49 |
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luf | kerio: :( I need exact -Smaemo3 | 10:50 |
luf | I'll try and I see. | 10:50 |
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kerio | luf: http://fpaste.org/Eqv5/raw/ something like this | 11:00 |
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kerio | luf? | 11:11 |
luf | Yes? | 11:13 |
kerio | luf: http://fpaste.org/Eqv5/raw/ something like this | 11:15 |
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luf | kerio: thanks I saw that. | 11:24 |
luf | I need some mentaly preparation to reflash my dev N900 ;) two N900 is not enough .. | 11:25 |
kerio | "mental preparation", aka a backup | 11:25 |
luf | kerio: no backup is needed as it's development machine | 11:26 |
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freemangordon | merlin1991: -thumb repo download speed sucks :( | 16:17 |
freemangordon | I am getting between 50 and 100 KB/s | 16:17 |
kerio | hahaha | 16:19 |
kerio | poor merlin1991.at, getting hammered | 16:19 |
freemangordon | yep | 16:19 |
kerio | merlin1991: buy more bandwidth! | 16:31 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: really? | 16:39 |
merlin1991 | that's odd | 16:39 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: seems like it is because of mirrors | 16:39 |
merlin1991 | hm current up speed from the server that is being used is 100Kb&s | 16:40 |
merlin1991 | s.&./. | 16:40 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: upspeed should be awesome theoretically | 16:42 |
merlin1991 | I'm getting straight 1Mb/s when I dl something | 16:43 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: can you try again? | 16:43 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: not now | 16:44 |
jonwil | is it safe to use r.m.o at this point? | 16:53 |
kerio | safe for what? | 16:59 |
jonwil | as in, is r.m.o stable enough to actually download things from? | 17:00 |
jonwil | hmm, it seems to be up but VERY slow :P | 17:03 |
luf | jonwil: yes it is very slow. | 17:03 |
kerio | jonwil: it shouldn't go down | 17:06 |
jonwil | good | 17:06 |
jonwil | currently getting 4.5 kilobits a second speed from rmo | 17:07 |
jonwil | now its gone right down | 17:07 |
Pali | merlin1991, look at apt cssu merge request | 17:07 |
Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991: when will be next cssu meeting? | 17:08 |
Pali | I have some points for discussion | 17:08 |
luf | jonwil: It's stalled often here and also 345B/s ,,, | 17:08 |
jonwil | is it slow because of an issue with r.m.o (and related infrastructure), because so many people are hitting it or both? | 17:17 |
M4rtinK | I can also report that it is very very VERY slow :) | 17:20 |
luf | jonwil: No idea. But Docs and one admin hunted something on #maemo channel few hours ago. | 17:20 |
M4rtinK | and if I am not mistaken, the CSSU repositories are down at the moment ? | 17:20 |
M4rtinK | at least according to apt-get errors | 17:20 |
kerio | jonwil: 5% cpu usage, 25Mbps up | 17:20 |
luf | jonwil: high iowaits ... due to writes | 17:21 |
kerio | luf: nah | 17:21 |
kerio | rmo is just pushing 25Mbps | 17:21 |
kerio | and nemein does some rate-limitation so packets are dropped | 17:21 |
jonwil | so the answer is what exactly? | 17:21 |
luf | kerio: ok | 17:22 |
luf | jonwil: too many boring N900 users today :D | 17:22 |
kerio | jonwil: keep calm and apt-get | 17:22 |
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luf | kerio: you frozen the jonwil :D | 17:33 |
kerio | :D | 17:34 |
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luf | What are the CSSU-stable repostiories? | 17:58 |
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kerio | kinda like the debian stable repositories | 17:59 |
luf | kerio: I want to install CSSU-stable 3.0 if you remember. So I can't install it the usual way :( | 18:00 |
kerio | heh | 18:00 |
kerio | just use a mirror | 18:01 |
kerio | deb http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org/community/ fremantle free non-free | 18:01 |
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Pali | merlin1991: ping | 19:12 |
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warfare | rmo should work but very very slowly. | 20:25 |
kerio | warfare: the issue is that sometimes it's so slow that the timeout kicks in | 20:31 |
kerio | warfare: btw, can't we cheat and use coral? | 20:31 |
warfare | kerio: apt on maemo has http redirects disabled. | 20:33 |
kerio | :( | 20:33 |
warfare | I could set up a varnish on my server and then point repository.maemo.org to my ip. But I don't know, who has access to the DNS. | 20:35 |
kerio | hm, so the only thing we could do would be to change the DNS aDAMMIT | 20:35 |
kerio | warfare: hm, are you sure you've got enough bandwidth? | 20:35 |
kerio | bandwidth/traffic i mean | 20:36 |
kerio | i think that nokia still controls the domain | 20:36 |
kerio | and the dns | 20:36 |
kerio | maemo.org.21600INNSns.nokia.com. | 20:37 |
* kerio shakes his fist at elop | 20:37 | |
warfare | hm, my server at hetzner has around 5T and the one at ovh uses around 2 of its 5T/month. | 20:43 |
kerio | =D | 20:43 |
warfare | the ovh box hosts a podcast for a friend and a closed music archive, hence the traffic. | 20:44 |
kerio | gregoa: are you around? i have a question to you regarding dist-upgrade | 20:49 |
kerio | warfare: ask DocScrutinizer, i suppose | 20:49 |
kerio | warfare: also, it would end up being 270T/day, wouldn't it | 20:50 |
warfare | I'm looking at cloudflare at the moment. ;) | 20:51 |
kerio | does cloudflare work without redirects? | 20:51 |
warfare | Yes, but it needs a DNS change. | 20:52 |
kerio | i figured - *something* must call it | 20:52 |
kerio | doesn't it cost a lot? | 20:52 |
warfare | the basic one is free. | 20:53 |
warfare | the pro costs 20$/month. | 20:53 |
kerio | wow | 20:54 |
kerio | do they not pay for bandwidth, in some way? | 20:54 |
warfare | I think they just have enough. | 20:54 |
kerio | "100% uptime guarantee" suuuuuuure | 20:55 |
warfare | And they make probably enough money with their business and enterprise customers. | 20:55 |
warfare | 2 hours edge cache expiry - which is good for our case. | 20:56 |
luf | warfare: I'm ready to change /etc/hosts ;) | 20:56 |
kerio | luf: nope | 20:57 |
kerio | /etc/hosts can't do CNAMEs | 20:57 |
luf | kerio: ?? Why do I need CNAME? | 20:57 |
kerio | luf: cloudflare isn't *one* server | 20:57 |
luf | kerio: I can use just one of their servers. | 20:58 |
kerio | warfare: it's fair to say that our body is ready | 20:59 |
warfare | cloudflare wants to take over your dns ;) | 21:00 |
kerio | hold on, do they? | 21:01 |
luf | warfare: pitty | 21:01 |
kerio | i thought you just had to set a CNAME | 21:01 |
kerio | i doubt nokia will approve such a radical move | 21:01 |
warfare | I think so. | 21:01 |
warfare | bummer. | 21:01 |
kerio | warfare: well, we only need a subdomain | 21:03 |
kerio | warfare: apparently there's some kind of beta service that uses CNAMEs | 21:05 |
kerio | but it's only for paid customers | 21:05 |
luf | incapsula has 50GB/month limit | 21:16 |
kerio | will cloudflare accept to be the nameserver for a subdomain only? i couldn't find anything about it on the website | 21:19 |
luf | kerio: maemo.org is subdomain of org ;) So it doesn't matter what level of domain is used ;) | 21:22 |
kerio | 'yes, we'd like to start using cloudflare on our domain, it's "com". do you think we'll need an enterprise plan for it?' | 21:24 |
luf | kerio: (cssu stable): E: Version '0.7.20.2maemo13.2+0cssu1' for 'apt' was not found | 21:40 |
luf | kerio: My fault. | 21:41 |
kerio | ? | 21:41 |
luf | I'm watching Davis cup ... SUI x CZE 5. set and 22:21 ... | 21:41 |
luf | Never ending story. I forget to add cssu stable repo | 21:42 |
kerio | :D | 21:42 |
luf | 7 hours of tenis ... it's begin to be boring ... | 21:44 |
luf | We win! | 21:45 |
* kerio /whoises luf to figure out his nationality | 21:47 | |
kerio | yay cz | 21:47 |
luf | W: Failed to fetch http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org/community/dists/fremantle/non-free/binary-armel/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 37.59.41.108 80] | 21:47 |
kerio | madness | 21:47 |
kerio | try using skeiron | 21:47 |
luf | ~skeiron | 21:47 |
kerio | skeiron.org/repo/community/ | 21:48 |
luf | It doesn't work for me neither :( | 22:09 |
thedead1440 | luf did you check the url? Its supposed to be: http://skeiron.org/repo/repository.maemo.org/community/ | 22:09 |
luf | BTW it seems there is no non-free :) | 22:10 |
kerio | whoops | 22:10 |
luf | thedead1440: I also tried this. | 22:10 |
thedead1440 | gives a hashsum mismatch? | 22:10 |
kerio | luf: use merlin1991's apt-mirror community thingy | 22:10 |
kerio | maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/community | 22:10 |
luf | thedead1440: no I can't scroll now. MMNT | 22:12 |
luf | 99% [10 Translation-cs gzip 0] [Waiting for headers]gzip: invalid magic | 22:14 |
luf | Ign http://skeiron.org fremantle/non-free Translation-cs | 22:14 |
luf | But there is no non-free | 22:14 |
kerio | luf: use merlin's | 22:15 |
luf | I see but it doesn't help with: E: Version '3.90.7-9' for 'modest' was not found | 22:16 |
luf | http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/community/pool/fremantle/free/m/modest/ | 22:16 |
luf | So I'm not able to install older cssu stable :( | 22:17 |
kerio | :( | 22:17 |
kerio | why do you need the older cssu stable? | 22:18 |
luf | I want to reproduce one obexd error (reported by pinochio on TMO) | 22:20 |
kerio | tell him to update | 22:21 |
arcean_ | IIRC pinochio uses the latest stable cssu | 22:25 |
luf | kerio: cssu-s 3 doesn't have issue with obexd 0.46. But newer cssu-s has the issue. | 22:31 |
luf | I tried to imagine what is the difference :( | 22:32 |
kerio | ...so check the changes in obexd and bluez | 22:32 |
luf | kerio: no change | 22:32 |
kerio | what's the problem? | 22:32 |
luf | kerio: stop working OPP profile which I didn't touched. | 22:32 |
kerio | OPP? | 22:32 |
luf | I go through the cssu-s changelog and see no relevant change :( | 22:33 |
luf | kerio: push files | 22:33 |
luf | kerio: It's send file ... functionality | 22:33 |
luf | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59114 | 22:33 |
kerio | he probably started noticing the problem after -Smaemo3 | 22:34 |
luf | Yes. | 22:34 |
arcean_ | luf: ohh crap, there's another person with this problem on Polish forum | 22:37 |
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luf | arcean_: It's like a ghost. | 22:38 |
arcean_ | luf: they said, they noticed the problem after this upgrade: http://fpaste.org/vMsx/ | 22:38 |
luf | Is the polish guy able to better describe the situation? | 22:38 |
arcean_ | I'll email him | 22:39 |
luf | arcean_: And what problem he faced? | 22:39 |
luf | arcean: can you send me a link to polish forum? | 22:40 |
arcean_ | luf: he's not able to send files via bluetooth to his notebook with windows7 | 22:41 |
arcean_ | ie | 22:41 |
arcean_ | since stable 4.1 only original nokia obexd is working | 22:41 |
luf | That's sound like pinochio :) | 22:41 |
luf | * That sounds ... | 22:41 |
arcean_ | yeah, pretty much :) | 22:42 |
luf | arcean: can you send me a link to the polish forum? | 22:43 |
arcean_ | sure, http://meegoforum.pl/post4539.html#p4539 | 22:43 |
arcean_ | pinochio and kownas users :) | 22:43 |
luf | arcean_: BTW the update you send in pastebin is from testing ... | 22:44 |
arcean_ | then I have nfc what cssu version he has on device :) | 22:45 |
luf | arcean_: the pulseaudio update is mine ;) And AFAIK isn't in stable still. | 22:46 |
arcean_ | maybe his Win7 is screwed ? :D | 22:48 |
arcean_ | hmm | 22:48 |
arcean_ | ok, tomorrow I'm going to check this with win7 and win8 PCs | 22:49 |
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luf | arcean: It seems to me that it's using L2CAP (as usually RFCOMM). | 22:50 |
luf | But I don't understand why it stops working :( CSSU-S 4.1: * Recompiled thumb binaries as non-thumb | 22:51 |
luf | arcean: Also noone report this issue with testing :( | 22:53 |
luf | Except pinochio (for sure) | 22:53 |
arcean_ | and the second guy (kownas) | 22:53 |
arcean_ | but as I said earlier, I think it's more about Windows than cssu/obexd/whatever else :D | 22:54 |
luf | arcean_: I'm affraid it's not ... The same problem is with newer bluez :( | 22:55 |
luf | arcean_: the problem is with widcomm bluetooth stack on win side. | 22:56 |
arcean_ | hmm | 22:57 |
arcean_ | then why it works with old nokia obexd | 22:57 |
luf | arcean_: There is no L2CAP support for OPP ;) | 22:58 |
luf | But I'm not sure. | 22:58 |
wumpwoast | Hey, has anyone made dummy icd connections that tie into wpasupplicant? | 22:59 |
wumpwoast | trying to get cisco leap wpa-enterprise working, and nokia's normal wireless profiles don't support it | 22:59 |
wumpwoast | but wpasupplicant does | 22:59 |
kerio | how would DUMMY fix that? | 22:59 |
wumpwoast | I presumed a dummy profile could maybe call a script that calls wpasupplican | 23:00 |
kerio | i'm not sure libicd-network-null has something for that | 23:00 |
kerio | can't you do something similar with ifup.d? | 23:01 |
wumpwoast | does bringing an int online with ifup.d send the relevant events so you see the little "wireless" icon as online? | 23:01 |
kerio | wumpwoast: no, i mean that you'd get ICD2 to connect to the network, and then you run wpasupplicant from a script in ifup.d, if the ssid matches | 23:02 |
kerio | i'm not sure if it would work, i have no idea of how wpasupplicant works and when it should work | 23:02 |
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wumpwoast | kerio: if ifup.d scripts run when you touch the proper network icon, then this might be worth trying | 23:03 |
wumpwoast | appreciate the help! | 23:04 |
kerio | wumpwoast: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2109498 this is my /etc/network/if-up.d/50_wifi_autologin | 23:05 |
kerio | but i don't know when wpa_supplicant is supposed to run | 23:05 |
kerio | this is after dhcp has kicked in | 23:05 |
wumpwoast | wpasupplicant needs to run pre-dhcp. So your idea likely works if I use an if-pre-up.d script | 23:07 |
kerio | ooh, probably! | 23:07 |
kerio | neat | 23:07 |
wumpwoast | the order goes: iwconfig essid, wpasupplicant, dhcp. | 23:08 |
kerio | wumpwoast: also, look at the other scripts too, to figure out how to get values from the networking UI and stuff | 23:08 |
kerio | if you want/need them | 23:08 |
wumpwoast | for some reason I didn't think icd hooked into the /etc/network scripts. Very happy that it does :) | 23:09 |
kerio | wumpwoast: having a UI for wpa enterprise would be better | 23:18 |
kerio | dammit, where's jonwil when you need him | 23:18 |
kerio | wumpwoast: do those networks appear in the list as wpa networks? | 23:19 |
luf | pali, freemangordon: where is KP git? | 23:19 |
Pali | luf, on garage | 23:20 |
Pali | or on cssu gitorious | 23:20 |
Pali | s/or/and/ | 23:20 |
infobot | Pali meant: and on cssu gitorious | 23:20 |
luf | There is kernel-cssu on cssu gitorious ... | 23:20 |
Pali | see kernel-power branch | 23:21 |
luf | Ahh, ok. thanks. | 23:21 |
luf | Pali: are there some bluetooth patches? | 23:23 |
kerio | wumpwoast: it's a good enough conversation for the public channel :) | 23:23 |
kerio | wumpwoast: what does the password you put in do? | 23:23 |
Pali | luf, yes | 23:24 |
luf | Pali: hmmm you touched l2cap and we have problems with l2cap :) Maybe it's not coincident ... :D | 23:24 |
luf | merlin1991: ping | 23:25 |
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wumpwoast | kerio: not sure what you mean. I configure my password in the setup screen | 23:26 |
wumpwoast | it tries to connect for a little while and then I get a "failed to connect" message | 23:26 |
kerio | wumpwoast: yeah but the password is used to... connect to the network as if it's a wpa-personal network? | 23:26 |
kerio | should there even be a password request there? | 23:26 |
wumpwoast | no, this would be back to an auth server of some kind (radius probably) | 23:27 |
kerio | i'm not sure if running wpa_supplicant after it's been ran by ICD2 (presumably) would work | 23:27 |
kerio | but hey, you might as well try | 23:27 |
luf | Pali: did you test bluetooth-fix-potential-bad-memory-access-with-sysfs-files.diff somehow? | 23:27 |
wumpwoast | I tried running wpa_supplicant, looking for an online event in dbus-scripts | 23:27 |
wumpwoast | and that didn't work | 23:27 |
wumpwoast | it saw the event and appeared to run wpa_supplicant but... no dice. | 23:28 |
kerio | wumpwoast: well, wpa_supplicant is also used for wpa-personal, right? | 23:29 |
kerio | and it appears that libicd-network-wlan doesn't have source :( | 23:29 |
wumpwoast | for the normal nokia icd connections? no... | 23:29 |
wumpwoast | n900's wpa stuff does not seem to use wpasupplicant | 23:29 |
wumpwoast | i've used wpasupplicant for wpa-personal on n900, but normal nokia icd works fine for that purpose. :) | 23:30 |
kerio | wumpwoast: well, you can still make yourself a script that does iwconfig, wpasupplicant, dhcpc, route | 23:30 |
kerio | and then run the DUMMY network so maemo apps are happy | 23:30 |
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Pali | luf, that patch was backported by freemangordon | 23:31 |
Pali | luf, ask freemangordon | 23:31 |
wumpwoast | kerio: that's precisely my goal. if icd thinks it's online so I can start skype, then I'm happy | 23:31 |
kerio | hoooooooooold on | 23:31 |
kerio | apparently you can just set up a wpa enterprise network | 23:32 |
* kerio feels dumb | 23:32 | |
wumpwoast | yes, but that doesn't seem to work with cisco leap wireless :( | 23:32 |
wumpwoast | it works on other wpa-enterprise infrastructure, but not the cisco stuff I have now. | 23:33 |
kerio | "Cisco itself is phasing out LEAP due to weaknesses found in its security model. Therefore Maemo has no plans to support it." | 23:33 |
kerio | FUCKING NOKIA | 23:33 |
WizardNumberNext | wumpwoast: sell cisco, get something normal, become rich man | 23:33 |
luf | Pali: can you help me if the patch is also in kernel-cssu? I'm a little bit lost. | 23:34 |
kerio | wumpwoast: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3655 | 23:34 |
povbot | Bug 3655: EAP-LEAP (Cisco) not supported | 23:34 |
wumpwoast | which is why I'm out in the weeds messing with wpasupplicant :) | 23:34 |
kerio | \_o_/ | 23:35 |
wumpwoast | WizardNumberNext: heart is warmed. :) | 23:35 |
kerio | anyway, libicd-network-null will let you make a fake connection so that maemo apps are happy | 23:35 |
luf | freemangordon: ping | 23:35 |
kerio | in the meantime, you configure the ip stack as you'd like | 23:35 |
luf | kerio: same as dummy ;) | 23:35 |
kerio | i don't think there's a way to make dummy/null run a script when you connect - it would be neat, though | 23:36 |
Pali | luf, I do not know | 23:36 |
WizardNumberNext | I use real coputer for 802.11g serving (two networks) and I am quite sure, that it is much cheaper, then cheapest CISCO you can find | 23:36 |
Pali | look at git history | 23:36 |
kerio | WizardNumberNext: technically linksys is cisco now | 23:37 |
WizardNumberNext | kerio: technically liksys works and is much cheaper; technically my server is PentherSolutions now! | 23:38 |
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wumpwoast | appreciate the help guys. I'll poke my head in once I've got scripts and documentation for this that are tested/working. | 23:39 |
luf | Pali: I see KP commits in master branch so I'm not able to identify if it's in kernel-cssu or not :( Any hint? | 23:41 |
Pali | luf, last commit in master branch is merge from kernel-power | 23:41 |
Pali | look at previous commits | 23:41 |
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merlin1991 | luf Pali pong | 23:50 |
luf | merlin1991: do you remember the bluez-4.99 environment you prepared for me? | 23:50 |
merlin1991 | yes | 23:51 |
merlin1991 | atm it's not ready though | 23:51 |
luf | What kernel is there? | 23:51 |
merlin1991 | (because I'm not at home) | 23:51 |
merlin1991 | stock | 23:51 |
luf | merlin1991: Isn't there cssu or kp? | 23:51 |
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Pali | merlin1991, look: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/apt/merge_requests/1 | 23:52 |
merlin1991 | luf: nope | 23:59 |
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