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| DocScrutinizer05 | Morning! | 11:12 |
|---|---|---|
| DocScrutinizer05 | (our friends at big N)>> | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | If I may, one additional question: As GPG supports expiration date | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | extension, is it possible to just update the GPG key expiration date in | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the N900 device as well? | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | In other words, if we'd update the key in the Akamai/SSU end (this is | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | already done), and then we'd update the key in the N900 device, would | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that still keep the trust chain intact so stuff could be downloaded to | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the device from the SSU? | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | << | 11:12 |
| jonwil | The root issue is that there is only one way to get things onto a stock N900 right now and that's from a repo signed with that one special Nokia key (assuming Nokia still has it) | 11:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd answer "yes, but how?" | 11:14 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 summons Pali | 11:15 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's N900 determining that the key expired? | 11:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly: would it help to set system clock to 2010? | 11:16 |
| thedead1440 | I think not as it will sync with server time | 11:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | YAY | 11:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | would've been too simple | 11:17 |
| thedead1440 | :D | 11:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so what's been your results regarding that magic key that never expires, could they sign the repo with it and it would work? | 11:18 |
| thedead1440 | i think so because on Harmattan the key used for repos has no expiry date too and it works | 11:18 |
| thedead1440 | maybe they realized not to put an expiry date hence HARM won't have this issue according to Jonni | 11:19 |
| thedead1440 | so using a key with no expiry date on N900s would not have issues too AFAIK | 11:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | DAMN, which fool quoted full mail on wiki?? | 11:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *SIGH* | 11:23 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: there's no such thing as a "chain" of trust for apt-secure | 11:23 |
| kerio | and the key isn't communicated | 11:23 |
| kerio | the way it works is that repositories usually ship their own key in a package | 11:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm thoroughly pissed | 11:23 |
| kerio | and that package is updated long before the key is set to expire | 11:24 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how does one delete confidential content from a wiki? | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do you think I'm too stupid to post shit on wiki myself? | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: good luck with that | 11:24 |
| kerio | are deleted pages' histories kept? | 11:25 |
| thedead1440 | it wasn't me; just saying... | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | congrats to whomever been that fool | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, and evetually I'll check the history to find out | 11:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why didn't you add a linkedin-link? | 11:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >:-( | 11:26 |
| thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: only me then you then kerio and after than 212.186.52.166 has edited it | 11:26 |
| thedead1440 | s/than/that/ | 11:27 |
| infobot | thedead1440 meant: DocScrutinizer05: only me then you then kerio and after that 212.186.52.166 has edited it | 11:27 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: where was the email quoted? | 11:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, nm. i should take an out time | 11:36 |
| kerio | ? | 11:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry | 11:36 |
| kerio | did you confuse your mail and the wiki? | 11:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my fault | 11:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kinda | 11:36 |
| kerio | i'd go to sleep | 11:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 11:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, I quoted matti's last mail above, if you have a good answer to send back to him, forward it to me please | 11:38 |
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| jonwil | Anyone here know what the license for libcpaboutcssu happens to be? I cant find any license attached to it... | 16:09 |
| merlin1991 | then (c) Mag | 16:12 |
| merlin1991 | jonwil: why do you need to know that? | 16:12 |
| jonwil | because I may want to use it as an easy starting point for cloning libcpinternetsettings (i.e. it already has makefile, debian packaging, etc etc ready to go for a control panel applet and its easy to base from :) | 16:13 |
| merlin1991 | to be sure you can ask mag, but I bet he has no problem if you slap a gpl header onto your copy | 16:14 |
| jonwil | hmmm, looks like osso-applet-display is even easier to use as a base :) | 16:14 |
| jonwil | and thats already GPL | 16:14 |
| jonwil | so lets use that :) | 16:14 |
| jonwil | first though I need to confirm exactly what my target(s) are by checking some dependency info on these packages | 16:15 |
| jonwil | I suspect part of the work will mean updating libconnui-dev :) | 16:16 |
| jonwil | since I doubt it supports all the functions I will need :P | 16:16 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: don't use autotools, merlin1991 and Pali will moan :D | 16:21 |
| jonwil | I have no plan to use autotools | 16:21 |
| freemangordon | ok | 16:21 |
| jonwil | osso-applet-display does not use it so I wont | 16:21 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: :D | 16:22 |
| jonwil | damn, I cant find the package name I want | 16:23 |
| jonwil | I dont see it listed in the reverse dependencies for hildon-control-panel | 16:23 |
| jonwil | Lets see if its in the reverse dependencies for libconnui | 16:24 |
| jonwil | ok, its connui-iapsettings that has what I want in it :) | 16:26 |
| jonwil | ok, question for the CSSU guys, connui-iapsettings contains 3 different binaries. For CSSU purposes can I create a clone of one and not of the other 2 or do we need to replace the entire package? | 16:30 |
| merlin1991 | hm what's the (c) on the package? | 16:38 |
| jonwil | its closed source so I suspect its the standard (c) nokia stuff | 16:38 |
| kerio | jonwil: (c) Nokia we can rehost, i think | 16:39 |
| merlin1991 | there's only a problem if it's (c) not nokia | 16:39 |
| kerio | if it's not, clone everything :P | 16:39 |
| jonwil | libconnui_iapsettings.so isn't exactly easy to clone | 16:39 |
| kerio | or do the usual divert thing | 16:40 |
| jonwil | but that said, I should take a look at it anyway | 16:40 |
| jonwil | and confirm just how hard it might be to do | 16:40 |
| jonwil | although a good place to start might be connui-iapsettings-gprs since thats what started this whole thing | 16:40 |
| jonwil | the desire to be able to do more with GPRS AP configuration without needing to use gconf | 16:40 |
| jonwil | that one is only a 9k ARM binary :) | 16:41 |
| jonwil | bad news is that it exports 2 functions with no known signature, at least one of which seems to take a data structure of unknown format | 16:42 |
| jonwil | this damn connectivity UI has been a thorn in my side ever since I first found out it existed :( | 16:44 |
| jonwil | if only https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11923 had been able to be resolved somehow... :P | 16:50 |
| povbot_ | Bug 11923: release header files for libconnui,libconnui-cellular,libconbtui0,connui-conndlgs | 16:50 |
| jonwil | but unfortunately it never went anywhere :( | 16:51 |
| jonwil | Neither did my plan to somehow acquire that copy of ARM Hex-Rays :P | 17:02 |
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| kerio | merlin1991: community-testing-light pls | 19:54 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: relax pls | 20:00 |
| kerio | nah | 20:00 |
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| merlin1991 | kerio: I can give you comunity-testing-light but it will have an AAAA dns entry | 20:09 |
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| kerio | noooo :c | 20:10 |
| kerio | i don't have ipv6 | 20:10 |
| kerio | would it still go on the same server? | 20:11 |
| luf | merlin1991: Nice punishment for kerio :D | 20:11 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 20:11 |
| kerio | then go right ahead | 20:11 |
| merlin1991 | only someone on tmo reported weird issues with cssu-devel because of hte AAAA entry | 20:11 |
| kerio | perhaps it's best to not use AAAA entries then | 20:13 |
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| merlin1991 | hm lets see | 20:16 |
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| merlin1991 | kerio: http://community-testing.merlin1991.at/ | 20:32 |
| kerio | name = Communit SSU | 20:32 |
| merlin1991 | fixed | 20:33 |
| merlin1991 | full setup, signed by my key, onle the latest and greatest with daily cronjob | 20:34 |
| kerio | ^_^ | 20:34 |
| kerio | merlin1991: downloads.maemo.nokia.com-light pls | 20:35 |
| merlin1991 | don't have a copy | 20:35 |
| kerio | how would someone mirror that? | 20:35 |
| kerio | i never found a way to access it outside of apt on the n900 | 20:35 |
| merlin1991 | you just need user + pw for it | 20:35 |
| kerio | firefox doesn't even ask for the password | 20:36 |
| merlin1991 | it does not challange for it | 20:36 |
| merlin1991 | you need to send it first hand | 20:36 |
| kerio | firefox still doesn't make it work | 20:37 |
| merlin1991 | firefox is not exactly intelligent | 20:38 |
| merlin1991 | wget with --no-auth-challange works | 20:38 |
| kerio | curl too | 20:39 |
| merlin1991 | I suggested wget because quite a few distributions don't ship curl by default | 20:40 |
| merlin1991 | (ie maemo doesn't even build the binary) | 20:40 |
| kerio | that's why you install it | 20:40 |
| kerio | because curl > wget | 20:40 |
| kerio | although "curl" < "wget" | 20:40 |
| merlin1991 | yep :D | 20:42 |
| merlin1991 | curl -O > wget ;) | 20:42 |
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| merlin1991 | btw kerio downloads.maemo.nokia.com is light already | 20:47 |
| kerio | i guess | 20:48 |
| merlin1991 | it's only repo.maemo.org which is kinda retarded | 20:48 |
| luf | merlin1991: maemo+cssu has curl AFAIK | 21:17 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 21:18 |
| merlin1991 | but not without cssu | 21:18 |
| luf | Yeah. I never understood why. | 21:18 |
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| kerio | curl is optional | 21:34 |
| kerio | it's not even in the metapackage | 21:37 |
| kerio | DMNC only hosts libcurl3 because that's what's needed | 21:38 |
| kerio | users aren't supposed to touch the terminal, or something like that | 21:39 |
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| merlin1991 | oh shit, my server is soon to hit the monthly trafic "limit" :D | 22:18 |
| merlin1991 | this month it already transmitted 1/8 of last years traffic :D | 22:18 |
| kerio | :c | 22:29 |
| kerio | will you have to pay money? | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | nah | 22:29 |
| kerio | then what kind of limit is it? | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | also I just realized that I'M far far away from the limit | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | friggin smal fonts | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | , and . can be mistaken then | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | limit is 10.000 GB | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | still last year was ~800GB now reaching 100GB just for jannuary :D | 22:38 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: when do you think you'll ship the next cssu-thumb? | 22:57 |
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| MrPingu | merlin1991: 8 feb is he allowed to do so ;) | 23:55 |
| MrPingu | Promised me to not release a new thumb till my uptime is 30 days xP | 23:57 |
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| kerio | well, you don't *have* to upgrade | 23:57 |
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| MrPingu | kerio: we both know we *have* to ;) | 23:59 |
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