| kerio | and equivalent, too | 00:00 |
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| Pali | kerio, no, you have 4 states: installed bme & started bme; installed bme & stopped bme; installed replacement; uninstalled bme | 00:01 |
| kerio | installed replacement is functionally equivalent to removed bme binary | 00:01 |
| Pali | could be | 00:01 |
| Pali | but you have hald-addon-bme in system | 00:02 |
| kerio | by the way, can't the applet just use the data from the modules if available, regardless, and wait for hald-addon-bme events? | 00:03 |
| kerio | so it would work under ~every condition | 00:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, kerio! here you are: "wtf are you idiots doing" | 12:18 |
| kerio | too late | 12:19 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer05: welcome back man :D | 12:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | replacing a lib needs careful verification - I'd recommend setting linux-ld flag for early binding (will provide correct name and syntax later) and testing the lib against several programs that are NOT compiled against the new lib | 12:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also get a list of exported symbols of old and new lib and compare | 12:20 |
| kerio | as far as i understood it's just a recompile of the same lib | 12:20 |
| kerio | just with different kernel headers | 12:20 |
| kerio | but headers from the same version of linux | 12:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I consider above tests sufficient | 12:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it had true changes, we'd need unit-tests | 12:21 |
| kerio | well, i tested it against every program running on my n900 that uses libc | 12:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | man ld-linux | 12:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LD_BIND_NOW=joergSaysDoIt | 12:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm wondering what bug we'll fix with getting that new lib, for users that don't use thumbified kernel, but meh! I got too much on my plate already, and I guess it's time you grow out of it a bit | 12:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh wait, that's epoll | 12:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not thumb | 12:30 |
| kerio | yep | 12:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, go ahead | 12:31 |
| luf | :D | 12:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | incredible bug | 12:31 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: the fix will be in place for users of kp/kcssu | 12:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 12:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | carefully check if the fallback works reliably | 12:32 |
| kerio | i haven't (and can't) check that, so i'll leave that to all of you freaks with a billion n900s | 12:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-P | 12:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "considered stable, due to missing resources to prove the opposite" | 12:34 |
| luf | merlin1991: will test it ;) | 12:34 |
| luf | ups ... | 12:34 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer05: merlin1991 will test it. | 12:34 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i already told luf to close a bug regarding bluez 2.99 and win7 64bit as CANTREPRODUCE | 12:35 |
| kerio | because he doesn't have win7 | 12:35 |
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| arcean | another awesome h-d bug ;D | 14:37 |
| arcean | "i'm [not] gonna create 0x0 frame window and play hide and catch with you, have a good time" | 14:37 |
| kerio | hahahah wat | 14:37 |
| arcean | kerio: http://i.imgur.com/30bg4.png | 14:39 |
| arcean | something eat the dialog window :) | 14:39 |
| arcean | *ate | 14:39 |
| freemangordon | arcean: nice | 14:45 |
| freemangordon | i like it, i want that on my device :D:D:D | 14:45 |
| arcean | it the first time I'm able to finally reproduce it | 14:46 |
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| kerio | arcean: heh, i wouldn't notice that, i think | 14:59 |
| kerio | i have blurless with full saturation | 14:59 |
| kerio | and the "behind" actually gets updated | 14:59 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: btw, not sure if you noticed, but extras-devel-light has pdiff support now :D | 15:03 |
| freemangordon | arcean: never been hit by that bug | 15:06 |
| arcean | sometimes I'm struggling with the Telephone app because of that | 15:08 |
| kerio | ~pkg | 15:09 |
| infobot | rumour has it, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 15:09 |
| freemangordon | arcean: hmm, thats realy strange | 15:11 |
| freemangordon | what is the reason you are hit by that? | 15:11 |
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| freemangordon | arcean: are you sure it is not a bug in your h-d? toldya, i've never seen that, except by the times I was playing with GTK/h-d tasknav | 15:30 |
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| arcean | maybe, but maintainer of the worldclock replacement also saw that in his application | 16:02 |
| merlin1991 | luf: ping | 16:08 |
| luf | merlin1991: pong | 16:08 |
| merlin1991 | as I said yesterday I have the win7 x64 + bluetooth setup available to me, so can I help with debugging the issue? | 16:09 |
| luf | merlin1991: sure you can. | 16:09 |
| merlin1991 | hm I meant to put a how betwee so and can :D | 16:09 |
| merlin1991 | also +n :D | 16:10 |
| luf | Let's install bluez-4.99 from _you_know_who_server/~luf/bluez | 16:10 |
| luf | After that try to reboot the phone and after that try to send file from win to N900 (and also from N900 to win). | 16:10 |
| luf | BTW you can try it first with stock bluez. | 16:11 |
| merlin1991 | hm is there a decent vnc server on the n900? (I never tried) | 16:11 |
| merlin1991 | the main idea being putting the win7 box and the n900 on a vpn via openvpn so you can test further in case it does not work | 16:12 |
| luf | merlin1991: I don't understand. | 16:13 |
| luf | merlin1991: I mean send the file via bluetooth | 16:13 |
| luf | Like File manager -> Share -> file -> via BT (from N900) | 16:13 |
| merlin1991 | luf: sure, but if it does not work you'll probably need more tests, and in that case it's easier for you if the hw is avaiable for you :D | 16:14 |
| luf | Oh great! Sure. | 16:14 |
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| merlin1991 | Bah ham is superslow today | 16:25 |
| luf | Just today? :D | 16:25 |
| merlin1991 | Well today especially :P | 16:26 |
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| luf | ... like other days | 16:27 |
| * merlin1991 headdesks | 16:31 | |
| merlin1991 | I enabled cssu-devel for nothing :P | 16:31 |
| luf | merlin1991: has you solved the problem to be less clever? :D | 16:31 |
| kerio | luf: btw, when have you last updated bluez? | 16:32 |
| merlin1991 | Luf which packages do I need? | 16:32 |
| luf | kerio: few days ago | 16:32 |
| kerio | hold on, whose server? | 16:32 |
| * kerio got a 404 | 16:32 | |
| merlin1991 | Huh? | 16:33 |
| luf | bluez-4.99, libbluetooth3-4.99 | 16:33 |
| luf | ... 2maemo2... | 16:33 |
| luf | kerio: :D I get list of files ... | 16:34 |
| kerio | link pls | 16:34 |
| luf | The same like last time. | 16:34 |
| luf | I don't change version ... | 16:34 |
| luf | Hmmm I didn't upload it :) | 16:35 |
| merlin1991 | Luf overwite the conf file? | 16:35 |
| merlin1991 | also reboot neccessary? | 16:35 |
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| kerio | what's so wrong about pasting the url again? :( | 16:35 |
| * kerio checks the logs | 16:35 | |
| merlin1991 | kerio: merlin1991.at/~luf/bluez | 16:36 |
| luf | merlin1991: it's better to overwrite and reboot isn't neccessary. Just restart bluetoothd. | 16:36 |
| kerio | oh, yours! | 16:36 |
| kerio | i knew that then | 16:36 |
| luf | I have to upload the latest packages. MMNT. | 16:36 |
| merlin1991 | but . I just installed the older one then | 16:36 |
| kerio | luf: i don't remember, is the disabling of syncevolution in obexd in cssu already, or is it something that i did? | 16:38 |
| luf | Maybe you did but it's in for sure in current release (maybe also the previous one). Check changelog ;) | 16:39 |
| merlin1991 | luf: so do I need an even newer bluez now? | 16:41 |
| luf | It will be better. I'm uploading .... | 16:42 |
| luf | Done. | 16:43 |
| luf | The same filesnames, few more patches ... | 16:43 |
| merlin1991 | so I need to dl it again :D | 16:45 |
| luf | Yes please. | 16:45 |
| kerio | luf: but i just installed the november build! :( | 16:45 |
| Pali | freemangordon, bug in systemui alarm - when silent profile is activated clock alarm is muted | 16:48 |
| Pali | in nokia version it always play alarm sound (in silent profile too) | 16:49 |
| luf | kerio: you didn't have November build? I'm surprised. | 16:50 |
| luf | BTW the December build is better ;) | 16:51 |
| kerio | hrmpf :c | 16:51 |
| luf | You can see git ;) | 16:51 |
| merlin1991 | sry luf, I've got to run for now, I'll test tomorrow | 16:55 |
| luf | merlin1991: np I thank you for such opportunity. | 16:55 |
| luf | merlin1991: get any time you need | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | alarm sound in silent? ODD | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I need a stealth mode where NO SOUND EVAR is causing evil morloks shooting me down | 17:09 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: mute everything with alsamixer | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | that's what silent mode supposed to do | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | except vib | 17:11 |
| kerio | it always played alarms for me | 17:12 |
| kerio | and i like it | 17:12 |
| luf | Sure. Alarm all the time is must to have. | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, you can define your own mode for that | 17:12 |
| luf | That's why I setup alarm - to be notified. | 17:12 |
| kerio | how am i supposed to wake up in the morning while avoiding calls during the night? | 17:12 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: or *you* can define your own mode for that | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | errr, tablet mode? | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: nope | 17:13 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer51: it's not the same. | 17:13 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer51: how could you live so long with not silenced alarm? | 17:13 |
| kerio | it's in stock, isn't it? :o | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, then the fsck define a profile with inaudible ringtone | 17:14 |
| kerio | or you define a silent-like profile with every alarm at 0 volume | 17:15 |
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| luf | DocScrutinizer51: you can do it. It'll be marked as bug by a lot of people if we change the default behaviour just due to you. | 17:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: when you tell me how to set up a profile that selects alarmand every other signal tone, then yes | 17:16 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer51: let's focus on glibc QA ;) | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dafaq | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | silent mode is meant to be a permanent mute | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | mute is meant to mute *everything* | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | if you want a partial mute only for e.g ringtones you should define your own custom profile for that | 17:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | my silent mode here even mutes play-sound some.wav | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so WTF shouldn't it mute clock alarms? | 17:19 |
| kerio | because i gotta wake up in the morning! | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: FOOL, LISTEN! You *can* define a profile with ringtones mute, you CANT define one with alarmsounds mute, but you got silentmode for that | 17:23 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer51: you can mute alarms. Lets disable it. | 17:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | you're boring me | 17:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, grumpy as usual. I shouldn't say such things | 18:59 |
| RST38h | Doc: When grumpy, moo! | 19:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~moo | 19:01 |
| * infobot mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass | 19:02 | |
| RST38h | I wonder if you can ignite 'em and what happens then | 19:05 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: why do you have two IRC clients connected at the same time, btw? | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: because I have ~5 devices with IRC clients running, and Konversation and xchat don't play nice together via ZNC bouncer | 19:14 |
| kerio | of course they do! | 19:14 |
| kerio | /znc loadmod route_replies | 19:14 |
| kerio | or something | 19:14 |
| kerio | yep | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tried it, didn't work like supposed to | 19:14 |
| kerio | :( | 19:14 |
| kerio | connect both bouncers through a single bouncer! | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's only one bouncer on DocScrutinizer51 | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | DocScrutinizer05 has no bouncer at all | 19:16 |
| kerio | what does "05" mean? | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 0.5k aka 500, for ThinkPad T500 | 19:16 |
| kerio | 51 is self-explanatory | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yay, I need to refresh some of my nicks | 19:18 |
| kerio | heh, a laptop that's never turned off? | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though: 18:18pm up 29 days 19:26, 10 users, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.10 | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | due to some severe issues with BIOS and fan-control | 19:19 |
| kerio | meh, the universe was created around 5 days ago anyway | 19:19 |
| kerio | anything before that is a fabrication | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | friggin insane: the CPU heats up to 100°C but fan speed stays ~2800 | 19:20 |
| kerio | heh | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while 'manually' I can speed it up to ~5000 | 19:20 |
| kerio | osx's temperature control prefers throttling the gpu down rather than running the fans at 6krpm | 19:20 |
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| kerio | it stays around 5500rpm and then i get framerate drops in my videogames | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | consequently the crap lap tap err top suddenly shuts down hard | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, related to GPU here as well | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is a T500 with dual GPU | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | intel and that G????? stuff | 19:22 |
| kerio | at least osx's throttling doesn't cause overheating | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | intel on-chip is low power low heat low speed | 19:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the "dedicated" "external" GPU however has the capability to turn the device into a pan to fry eggs on it | 19:23 |
| kerio | oh, i always have that :D | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | under windows you can switch between both dynamically on demand, not so under X11 | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ATI "Mobility Radeon HD 3650" | 19:29 |
| ShadowJK | do you have cooling policy: passive | 19:41 |
| Pali | freemangordon, when commiting to cssu git repos, check if debian/rules has executable bit | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: where would I check/set that policy? | 19:48 |
| Pali | and also text/source files should be without executable | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw in memoriam Apollo17: 40 years of silence on moon | 19:49 |
| Pali | freemangordon anyway, I fixed it in https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/ | 19:50 |
| Pali | + I added new package osso-systemui-powerkeymenu-dev which is needed for bulding (diablo) mce | 19:50 |
| Pali | contains header file with dbus methods | 19:51 |
| luf | Pali: can you please upload newest pulseaudio to -devel? | 19:57 |
| Pali | luf, going to poweron qemu :P | 19:58 |
| luf | Pali: nice | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | Pali: hmm, I am more than sure i've tested alarmui in silent profile | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | anyway, i'll check again | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | Pali: stop that :D | 20:01 |
| freemangordon | i.e. WFM :P | 20:01 |
| freemangordon | Pali: BTW sorry for the executable build of debian/rules, I am using such a mixture of windoze and linux, that sometimes I forget to fix the things before commiting | 20:05 |
| freemangordon | s/build/flag | 20:05 |
| freemangordon | kerio, luf: ping | 20:05 |
| kerio | pong | 20:05 |
| luf | pong | 20:05 |
| freemangordon | guys, could you confirm alarm works in silent profile | 20:06 |
| kerio | yep | 20:06 |
| kerio | confirm | 20:06 |
| kerio | ed | 20:06 |
| freemangordon | ok, thanks | 20:06 |
| luf | freemangordon: I'm testing. | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: are you sure you didn't play with PA policies on your device? or it is not harm profiled to blame? | 20:07 |
| Pali | hm, now working | 20:09 |
| Pali | yesterday not | 20:09 |
| Pali | I tested that yesterday and it not worked .. | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | Pali: BTW now you pushed stuff to powerkeymenu, please, build it and upload to -devel, after all powerkeymenu will be in the next -testing | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | we'd better have tested your commits, not matter if they are just a code cleanup | 20:10 |
| Pali | ok | 20:10 |
| luf | freemangordon: alarm in silent profile works here also. I'm testing calendar notification ... | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | luf: i think it should not ring. calenadar alram that is | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | when in silent | 20:14 |
| luf | freemangordon: you're right. I have to test it with stock also | 20:17 |
| luf | I like more to have cal alarm ring also in silent (I know that DocS is againist). | 20:18 |
| luf | freemangordon: or osso-systemui-alarm doesn't affect cal alarm? | 20:19 |
| luf | BTW updated glibc seems to be ok (but just few tests). | 20:22 |
| freemangordon | luf: not sure, though iirc it depends on libnotify whether there will be sound or not | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | Pali: please fix XcssuY too berfore building | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | of powerkeymenu i mean | 20:29 |
| arcean | new h-d and libmatchbox2 in cssu-devel | 20:31 |
| arcean | Pali: it should fix problems with applets in portrait mode | 20:31 |
| Pali | ok | 20:31 |
| Pali | pulseaudio was compiled & pushed | 20:32 |
| luf | Pali: thanks. | 20:33 |
| luf | freemangordon: stock alarm has the same behaviour. | 21:11 |
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