IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2012-10-28

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merlin1991btw DocScrutinizer05 feel like playing guinea pig for the next -testing? :D01:29
merlin1991I've got everything but 2 packages ready01:29
DocScrutinizer05sure01:29
DocScrutinizer05though i'm actually way late today, with getting some RL and dinner off the PC01:30
merlin1991I even made the custom hidden repo already + a .deb to enable it with keys and everything for ham :)01:30
merlin1991that's going to happen tomorrow or later anway :)01:30
merlin1991(the last 2 packages + mp)01:30
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: I'm willing to test it on a virgin device, but not for update from 5.1 today01:30
DocScrutinizer05tomorrow is just fine01:31
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* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders how to solve the conflict between mp-maemo-community-pr and stock camera-ui. For now update on beloved daily IroN900 is borked due to MP got deinstalled when installing stock camera15:48
merlin1991haxxor the stock .deb ;)15:50
merlin1991(ie add an epoch and everything is happy)15:50
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: a better question: why don't you have cssu-thumb on IroN yet? >:D16:05
DocScrutinizer05you're kidding me, are you?16:06
kerionope16:06
DocScrutinizer05yep16:07
keriothe thumby nikocam is quick :)16:07
DocScrutinizer05hah16:07
DocScrutinizer05could anybody explain to me why there are those significant differences in ~user/.modest/*[/*] ? on stock maemo I see true random filenames, while on CSSU I see unix timestamps as filenames, and those are rather weird as they all use the same timestamp16:10
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DocScrutinizer05stock: 023T4h-1QZi4h2TtF-00sKGU16:11
DocScrutinizer05cssu: 1299184634.2016:12
DocScrutinizer05or 1299184634.4216:12
DocScrutinizer05or 1299184634.6016:12
jon_ystock had a dangling pointer? :)16:13
jon_yis there an issue with the filenames?16:13
DocScrutinizer05and cssu modest has a broken regulator clock in da livin room16:13
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: yep, the files are from 1.1.2011 .. 20.6.201216:14
DocScrutinizer05still all have same timestamp it seems16:14
DocScrutinizer05-rw------- 1 user users 3359 2011-07-09 20:00 1299184634.3516:14
DocScrutinizer05-rw------- 1 user users 1295 2011-07-14 23:30 1299184634.3616:14
DocScrutinizer05-rw------- 1 user users 1814 2011-07-18 00:00 1299184634.3716:14
jon_yweird16:15
DocScrutinizer05yep :-/16:15
DocScrutinizer05might be a legacy result of a bug already fixed16:20
DocScrutinizer05we had a fsckdup thumbified modest in standard cssu for just long enough to cause all sorts of weirdness16:21
DocScrutinizer05so I'd really appreciate somebody else doublechecking this issue16:22
* kerio has no files :D16:23
kerioapart for some empty dbs16:23
DocScrutinizer05a good starting point I guess. configure any mail account where modest could fetch a few dozen mails during the next days16:26
DocScrutinizer05my files are found by `ls -l /home/user/.modest/cache/mail/pop/*/cache/*/*`16:27
DocScrutinizer05first * is account name it seems16:28
DocScrutinizer05second is some seemingly randomly incrementing semi-numeric subdir16:29
DocScrutinizer053rd is always same filename-base 1299184634 (timestamp), with .<%2d index> extension16:30
DocScrutinizer05actually %02d16:30
DocScrutinizer05err nope, scratch last line16:31
DocScrutinizer05-rw------- 1 user users   990 2011-03-07 23:57 /home/user/.modest/cache/mail/pop/jr__largange.cloud7.de_110/cache/12/1299184634.716:31
kerioi don't get it, though16:32
keriodoes it not work?16:32
DocScrutinizer05I don't use it, so dunno if it works or not. But obviously this is odd, or design specs are odd16:44
DocScrutinizer05wtf is special about Do 3. Mär 21:37:14 CET 201116:45
jon_ysomeone's marriage anniversary reminder? :)16:46
DocScrutinizer05not on my iroN900!!!!16:46
DocScrutinizer05also, 21:37:14?16:46
jon_ywedding was at a different timezone?16:47
DocScrutinizer05I much more suspect this might be the timestamp when this particular modest version got installed and first time started16:50
DocScrutinizer05which is kinda absolutely meaningless a date to use it for *all* files' basenames16:50
DocScrutinizer05at least there's no file older than 2011-03-08, so 2011-03-03 is what then? (keep in mind I never deleted any mail form that account/device)16:51
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DocScrutinizer05if nothing else, it's at very least extremely confusing and annoying16:52
jon_ymaybe it's something silly like "int getRandom(){return 4; //totally fair dice roll}16:52
jon_y"16:52
DocScrutinizer05whatever it is, it's for sure a timestamp (thanks speedevil for noticing that), it's somehow related to .modest and mail at large, since first file is just a few days younger than that timestamp, and it's totally cruft since when all files got same basename, they could as well exist without that basename at all16:54
DocScrutinizer05there's absolitely zero function or meaning or info in that timestamp, still it clutters a significant part of ~user/16:55
DocScrutinizer05and last not least the whole shit stinks16:56
DocScrutinizer05rather, smells like bug16:56
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DocScrutinizer05I mean, if this was a evolutionary derived algorithm, I'd say "oh well, evolution invented some cruft there, and it worked so far, so that's the reason why it didn't get weeded out by survival of the fittest". But since modest is supposed to be designed by some human individual with some concept in mind, I really ask "what's the concept behind THAT?"16:59
DocScrutinizer05or is it a bug rather than the manifestation of some concept?17:00
DocScrutinizer05IOW "it stinks" - I expect pending problems17:02
DocScrutinizer05I got only like 60 mails in that account. figure what might happen if there are a few hundered, or even >=100017:03
DocScrutinizer05the .<index> scheme looks like a last catch for the rare case when two mails come in at exactly same time17:04
DocScrutinizer05so it's for sure not tested for >1000 mails coming in same time17:05
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keriofreemangordon: do you mind putting back the stock pulseaudio? :322:18
keriooh no nvm, it's still downloadable22:18
freemangordonkerio: why?22:18
freemangordonany problem with it?22:18
kerioyou said this one is slower22:18
freemangordonby half %22:19
keriostill slower!1!122:20
keriofreemangordon: btw, something neat to try could be a new resampler22:20
freemangordonkerio: I am trying to backport some NEON optimizations right now. in PA22:21
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keriofreemangordon: btw, i set my sample rate to 44100, and everything still works22:27
kerionot sure if it uses less cpu22:27
ShadowJKDo most apps use 48000?22:29
kerioidk, my music is all 4410022:32
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tadzikdamn this HAM, always shows "No updates available"22:38
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freemangordonhmm PA CPU usage seems like 10% down23:00
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freemangordonWTF, that seems to depend on volume???23:08
Skryok, that is strange23:23
freemangordonyeah.23:23
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