IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2012-10-21

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kerioPali: i'm having problems with brctl from busybox-power11:57
kerioor maybe i'm having problems with bluetoothd12:00
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kerioPali: oh nvm, you need to configure the interface down before deleting it12:00
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DocScrutinizer05who knows about blacklist and how it works?17:07
DocScrutinizer05I have a "bug" that needs fixing17:07
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DocScrutinizer05PATCH:  `echo "21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1" >/etc/osso_software_version`19:00
DocScrutinizer05where from does "About CSSU:" get its version string?19:01
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DocScrutinizer05less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit19:02
DocScrutinizer05HMMM19:04
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern19:04
DocScrutinizer05|/usr/sbin/rich-core-dumper --pid=%p --signal=%s --name=%e19:04
DocScrutinizer05t900:~# cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern19:05
DocScrutinizer05/what/me/worry19:05
merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: re where about cssu gets the version: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libcpaboutcssu/blobs/master/src/libcpaboutcssu.c#line2619:09
DocScrutinizer05ohlol19:10
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DocScrutinizer05anyway we should export that19:10
merlin1991nope.jpg19:10
merlin1991pc-suite checks that stuff19:11
DocScrutinizer05o.O19:11
merlin1991and get's all weird if it sees our string19:11
DocScrutinizer05check WHAT stuff?19:11
DocScrutinizer05do you say we delete /etc/osso_software_version ?19:11
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit19:13
DocScrutinizer05though...: less "+/worry" /etc/init.d/rcS19:13
* DocScrutinizer05 needs MOAR COFFEE19:14
merlin1991well I thought it's stored there, but the system stores the osso-software-version somewhere19:15
merlin1991it's in the postinst script of the mp19:15
merlin1991https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/postinst19:15
merlin1991and that is stored somewhere19:15
DocScrutinizer05my /etc/osso_software_version is nonexistent on both devices19:15
DocScrutinizer05(both means: on CSSU-T and on stock-PR1.2++ with KP46)19:16
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: re https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/postinst  --  that's just osso-product-info19:19
DocScrutinizer05OSSO_VERSION='RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0'19:19
DocScrutinizer05it's largely unrelated to /etc/osso_software_version19:20
DocScrutinizer05at least I'd assume so, since /etc/osso_software_version is nonexistent here19:20
merlin1991yeah seems I mixed those up19:21
DocScrutinizer05NB I didn't suggest to do   osso-product-info -q OSSO_VERSION > /etc/osso_software_version19:22
DocScrutinizer05though we *could* do that as well, modulo testing if it's already available during preinit19:23
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: could you also point me to the HD blacklist code please?19:26
merlin1991uh better ask arcean19:27
DocScrutinizer05:nod:19:27
merlin1991what exactly do you want to check?19:27
merlin1991ie. the balcklist stuff not working?19:27
DocScrutinizer05http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html#t2012-10-21T17:23:5319:28
merlin1991because arcean has made some changes which gets that stuff life19:28
merlin1991ah yeah19:28
merlin1991okay well that would need a patch :)19:28
merlin1991but you can check the diffs from the last merge request (I didn't merge it yet) because it's in the code area19:29
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: wtf is osso_software_version19:39
keriomerlin1991: to be fair we don't want pcsuite to dick around our software19:39
DocScrutinizer05a file?19:39
DocScrutinizer05the name suggests it has software version as content19:40
keriooh19:40
keriothen why not something better, like cssu_version?19:41
DocScrutinizer05and this software version string is used in >> less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit19:41
keriooic19:41
DocScrutinizer05means: without a osso_software_version file we won't see proper coredumps during init19:42
kerioDocScrutinizer05: hm19:42
kerioto be fair we can just call it %e-%s-%p.core19:42
kerioalso, rcS resets that19:43
DocScrutinizer05though...: less "+/worry" /etc/init.d/rcS19:43
kerio:D19:43
DocScrutinizer05we can't call nuttin, we're not preinit19:43
kerioof course we're preinit19:44
kerioisn't getbootstate open?19:44
DocScrutinizer05not until we put that hat on19:44
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05, merlin1991: SW version is stored in CAL19:44
keriofreemangordon: then why doesn't preinit grab that?19:44
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: irrelevant19:44
kerioDocScrutinizer05: ohohoho, non-free/garbage19:44
freemangordonkerio: not exactly ;)19:44
freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/cal/cal19:45
freemangordonkerio: and what preinit does grab?19:45
keriofreemangordon: /etc/osso_software_version19:46
freemangordonit might be because of SB19:46
keriofreemangordon: damn, you're smart19:46
keriothat kinda makes sense19:46
kerioalthough i thought osso-product-info still worked19:47
keriooh well19:47
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit19:47
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I am late to the party, elaborate please19:47
keriofreemangordon: btw, can calcal write cal too?19:47
freemangordonyep19:47
kerioand is cal knowledgeable about the state of mtd?19:48
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: just do less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit19:48
freemangordonyep19:48
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: sorry. I am not much into shell scripting, what is that supposed to do19:48
freemangordon?19:48
DocScrutinizer05display some enlightening text to you19:49
DocScrutinizer05whicj I think is useless to pastebin since you already have it on your device19:49
freemangordonno less here ;)19:50
DocScrutinizer05ohwell19:50
keriofreemangordon: you suck19:51
DocScrutinizer05then try grep -A 7 "prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit19:51
freemangordon if [ -f /etc/osso_software_version ] ; then19:52
freemangordon?19:52
freemangordonyou mean that?19:52
freemangordonI suspect these are remnants from diablo scripts19:53
DocScrutinizer05yep, sure19:53
DocScrutinizer05we can put them to purpose again19:53
DocScrutinizer05all we need is a /etc/osso_software_version with some semi-sane content19:54
freemangordonfor CSSU?19:55
DocScrutinizer05sure19:55
freemangordonwe can use CAL19:55
DocScrutinizer05no we can't19:55
DocScrutinizer05since that's not what preinit does19:55
freemangordonbut why you need SW version in preinit?19:55
DocScrutinizer05grep -A 7 "prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit19:56
DocScrutinizer05o.O is it me or does my coffee not kick in?19:56
freemangordonecho "/media/mmc1/core-dumps/%e-%s-%p-$release.core" >/proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern19:57
freemangordon^ ?19:57
freemangordonI still don't get the idea19:57
kerioto get core dumps during init19:58
keriolike, until the core_pattern becomes /what/me/worry19:58
DocScrutinizer05I'd consider to comment that shit out20:00
DocScrutinizer05since it belongs into /etc/pmconfig I'd think20:01
freemangordoncore dumps during init?20:01
freemangordonwhat is that needed for?20:01
DocScrutinizer05errm nope, not into that particular file20:02
kerioDocScrutinizer05: is it even used, anyway?20:02
DocScrutinizer05what for are coredumps needed anyway?20:02
keriokernel-config does its own thing20:02
DocScrutinizer05locate kernel-config >>null20:02
DocScrutinizer05and pmconfig used for sure20:03
keriohaha20:04
DocScrutinizer05yet it's not the right place for setting value of /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern20:04
keriowhy the hell do we have these weird scripts instead of something that loads /etc/sysctl.conf[.d/*] is beyond me20:05
DocScrutinizer05I'd guess the KP devels had no idea about pmconfig, so invented their own crap20:05
kerioand no, procps doesn't count20:05
kerioDocScrutinizer05: is pmconfig also appropriate for voltage settings?20:06
DocScrutinizer05voltage_off_while_idle 120:06
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: the idea is that in case of unexpected reboot, KP scripts are not loaded20:06
DocScrutinizer05scaling_governor ondemand20:06
DocScrutinizer05scaling_max_freq 60000020:06
kerio...oh20:06
freemangordonpreventing you from entering a reboot loop20:06
keriooh right, there's that too20:06
DocScrutinizer05whatever, we're straying away from topic20:07
keriothe topic is CSSU!20:07
keriowe're *always* offtopic here20:07
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kerioanyway, getbootstate is non-free, but i suppose that we only need to change a script anyway20:07
kerioSection: non-free/garbage20:08
keriogarbage indeed20:08
DocScrutinizer05wtf with getbootstate??20:08
DocScrutinizer05how's that related now?20:09
DocScrutinizer05or is that a third topic you like to throw in just for fun20:09
kerioDocScrutinizer05: /sbin/preinit is part of getbootstate20:10
DocScrutinizer05WUT?20:10
DocScrutinizer05a script is part of a binary?20:10
keriooh right we don't need to modify it20:10
kerioDocScrutinizer05: the "getbootstate" package20:10
DocScrutinizer05oh20:10
freemangordonkerio: getbootstate is about 8k binary, I can RE it while I have my first coffee for the day. But I don't think we really need that20:11
freemangordonanyway, I am back to ramzswap20:12
* DocScrutinizer05 muses about /media/mmc1 which is *maybe* correct during early boot, but definitely changes during udev when swapping mmc1 with mmc020:12
kerioDocScrutinizer05: oh, i just assumed it was referring to the uSD20:12
kerioDocScrutinizer05: kinda hard to get the core dump out of MyDocs if the system can't boot, after all20:12
DocScrutinizer05good point indeed20:13
keriois it even mounted at that point?20:13
kerio:s20:13
DocScrutinizer05I also prefer to have coredumps on uSD20:13
DocScrutinizer05kerio: doesn't matter if it's mounted, the string in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern gets evaluated when a coredump happens20:14
kerioDocScrutinizer05: btw, can you paste the output of grep swapon /etc/event.d/rcS-late please?20:14
kerioDocScrutinizer05: yeah but when is it mounted? kinda useless to put the coredump there if the uSD is mounted after everything else has already happened20:14
DocScrutinizer05 /sbin/swapon -a || echo "Failed to enable paging partition."20:15
kerioswapon -a? wtf20:15
keriomaybe i modified my fstab generator and i don't remember it?20:15
kerioDocScrutinizer05: is there a swap entry in fstab?20:15
DocScrutinizer05  /dev/mmcblk0p3 none swap sw 0 020:15
keriooh, i don't have that partition anymore20:16
kerioi see20:16
keriomeh, i should probably disable the autogenerated fstab20:20
kerioit's a silly idea anyway20:20
DocScrutinizer05the rationale indeed seems a bit obscure20:22
DocScrutinizer05I'm tempted to call it legacy20:22
kerioDocScrutinizer05: also, my geometry of /dev/mmcblk0 and /dev/mmcblk1 is fucked up :s20:25
kerioDocScrutinizer05: do you get warnings from sfdisk -l?20:25
DocScrutinizer05nope20:28
DocScrutinizer05well, yep20:28
DocScrutinizer05for mmcblk120:28
DocScrutinizer05but fstab is generated from output of sfdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 anyway20:29
DocScrutinizer05and that is rather rare to ever change20:30
DocScrutinizer05who would repartition his eMMC between two boots?20:30
DocScrutinizer05 /etc/event.d/rcS-late is braindamaged in that regard20:31
DocScrutinizer05less "+/Generate fstab" /etc/event.d/rcS-late20:32
DocScrutinizer05screwit20:32
DocScrutinizer05remember my rant about >> less "+/fsck_ext3" /etc/event.d/rcS-late << without any notification for user, so they could tell boot is not hanging but actually DOING something that could take hours20:35
DocScrutinizer05would also need a patch, to switch notrifier LED to a warning pattern, like red/yellow blinking20:36
DocScrutinizer05if we can't get proper warning text displayed on framebuffer20:37
DocScrutinizer05I mean, how insane is THAT, to start a fsck.ext3 without telling user "hey dude, grab a coffe, this will take a while!"20:38
DocScrutinizer05I smell a massive CSSU patch coming, for preinit and related stuff of init/bootup20:40
DocScrutinizer05could really need some proper sanitizing - too much cruft, too many WTF in there20:41
DocScrutinizer05**Why The Fuck** is fstab generated during each boot??20:42
DocScrutinizer05smells like evil legacy from maemo4, meant to allow booting from SD-card20:43
DocScrutinizer05also LOL at preinit: mtdblock4 ->  less "+/mtdblock4" /sbin/preinit20:49
DocScrutinizer05what a CRUFT20:50
DocScrutinizer05I bet I can't find any such mtdblock partition/device/whatever in whole mameo520:51
DocScrutinizer05seems that's been a real thing in some obsolete maybe 2.4.x kernels20:52
DocScrutinizer05found some /media/mmc1p2/dev/mtdblock2, while that's the rootfs of a freerunner20:53
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keriohehe, set_default_root_params huh20:57
keriousing mtdblock is against the law or something, anyway20:58
DocScrutinizer05yoh20:58
DocScrutinizer05and *completely* useless on fremantle (btw mtd4 is initfs partition)20:58
DocScrutinizer05SIC!20:59
kerioanyway, i disabled the fstab generation21:00
kerioand put back swapon -a in rcS-late21:01
DocScrutinizer05I hope you simply commented the lines in that rcS21:01
kerioyes21:01
kerioand i put my swap partition in fstab21:01
DocScrutinizer05:-)21:01
keriohere goes nothing21:02
* kerio reboots21:02
DocScrutinizer05this is such indigestible cruft21:02
kerioheh, uboot reports "Max CPU speed 600MHz"21:02
DocScrutinizer05hmm, so what?21:03
DocScrutinizer05that's probably correct21:03
keriothe max is around 900 :321:03
kerioor possibly more, if you got lucky21:03
DocScrutinizer05not according to OMAP SoC properties register content, I guess21:03
kerioanyway, fstab wasn't regenerated, swapon -a worked correctly21:04
DocScrutinizer05(though the max cpu clock field in there is NDA)21:04
kerioNDA?21:04
DocScrutinizer05"no for public"21:04
keriooh21:04
DocScrutinizer05or similar offense21:04
DocScrutinizer05in OMAP TRM21:05
keriodon't you mean "under NDA" then?21:05
DocScrutinizer05it's marked "not publically available" in the table listing the meaning of those 128 bits21:05
DocScrutinizer05so if uBoot has some better idea about that, I'd be willing to accept it as a truth21:06
kerioDocScrutinizer05: why is fremantle such a mess? :(21:08
DocScrutinizer05because it's organically grown out of the ashes of diablo, which in turn grew on ashes of err... forgot21:09
keriochinook?21:09
DocScrutinizer05yeah21:09
kerioand the one before is the one that starts with b21:09
DocScrutinizer05borabora?21:09
keriojust bora21:09
DocScrutinizer05the first been "abomination" I bet ;-P21:10
keriowhy did they skip "e"? :(21:11
keriomy name starts with e!21:11
kerioit's a great letter!21:11
DocScrutinizer05there are some letters they ruled out for some sound reason21:12
DocScrutinizer05btw would somebody volunteer to update http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features/hildon-desktop from the obsolete state it's in?21:14
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features even21:17
DocScrutinizer05>>This document is up to date as of 20.2010.36-maemo16.5 (note: to find your version see Settings, About Community SSU). <<21:18
keriohm, why is rodir in the vfat options?21:19
keriofreemangordon: btw, why do you suggest page-cluster 0?21:23
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DocScrutinizer05wtf *means* rodir?21:34
DocScrutinizer05can't find it in man mount21:34
keriowindows doesn't care about read-only for directories21:35
keriorodir tells linux to care21:35
DocScrutinizer05where from you got that?21:35
DocScrutinizer05info mount?21:35
keriohttp://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/filesystems/vfat.txt21:35
kerioit could be too recent, though21:35
keriobut i don't think that vfat options are changed that often21:35
DocScrutinizer05dafaq21:36
DocScrutinizer05oooh " December 2004 "21:36
DocScrutinizer05wtf happened to my manpages on my desktop linux?21:37
keriowtf, what's the repository for system-services?21:37
keriooh, upstart21:38
DocScrutinizer05anyway bbl21:38
keriotake care21:38
DocScrutinizer05NCIS ;-)21:39
DocScrutinizer05then dinner, then bed21:39
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: we both know you'll be back21:41
DocScrutinizer05rrrrrright :-S21:46
DocScrutinizer05is it that obvious meanwhile?21:46
DocScrutinizer05maybe I should patch the ddWRT firmware in my router, to inevitably shut down my internet at certain daily schedule ?21:56
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DocScrutinizer05or maybe insert a timer switch into main mains, so my whole apartment goes blackout for 10h a day?21:57
* DocScrutinizer05 suspects he'd IRC from N900 then21:58
kerioi usually have two or three ways to connect to the internet at any given time21:58
keriowith at the very least my phone connection working during a blackout21:59
kerio*cellphone21:59
DocScrutinizer05well, in theory I got those as well21:59
kerioDocScrutinizer05: YOU'RE STILL HERE21:59
DocScrutinizer05again ;-P21:59
DocScrutinizer05commercial break in TV21:59
keriololwut21:59
DocScrutinizer05NCIS suspended for ~4 minutes22:00
kerioyou actually watch live tv? :O22:00
DocScrutinizer05yep22:00
keriomadness22:00
DocScrutinizer05I basically never watch movies from internet22:00
DocScrutinizer05since if I did, I'd rather IRC   X-P22:01
DocScrutinizer05also I love the TV screen, and hate PC screen for movies22:01
kerioDocScrutinizer05: "rather"?22:02
kerioyou can do both at the same time!22:02
DocScrutinizer05nah!22:02
kerioif your resolution doesn't SUCK22:02
DocScrutinizer05when I watch a movie, I watch the movie22:02
* kerio is currently watching the DH Bucharest finals while ircing22:02
DocScrutinizer05that's no movie22:03
kerioi also watched plenty of tv series while IRCing :)22:03
DocScrutinizer05I hate elevator muzak, and I hate watching movies and still missing 50%22:03
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