IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2012-10-11

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lufkerio: ping15:37
lufIs there a way to create bridge device on N900? I'm not successful in asking uncle Google.16:14
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DocScrutinizer51with KP I think there is17:18
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freemangordonhehe, got maemo asking me to set date/time with 3.5.4, hildon-desktop almost works :D:D:D21:28
keriofucking awesome21:30
keriobut... why 3.5.4? :(21:31
freemangordonwhy not?21:31
keriobecause 3.5.6 is the current 3.5 stable21:31
freemangordonwell, does not matter once we have working PVR driver, moving from 3.5.4 to 3.5.6 should be simple21:32
keriodoes the thumb2 patch apply nicely?21:33
keriothe errata workaround21:34
keriofreemangordon: once you're done, you should ship it as kernel-cssu, just so DocScrutinizer05 finally dies to a stroke21:35
arceanmerlin1991: I've broken your server21:37
arceanat least it's not importing new h-d to the cssu-devel repo21:37
freemangordonapply nicely? thumb errata workaround is the last thing i care about in 3.5.4, it is missing /dev/twl4030-madc ;)21:37
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merlin1991arcean: lemme see21:48
merlin1991arcean: imported now, you did upload the -dbg package after the changes file ;)21:49
arceanups :)21:50
arceanthank you21:50
kerioarcean: new h-d? neat21:50
keriochanges?21:50
arceankerio: http://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arcean-hildon-desktop/commit/ad3577452a16e24e6ccb6888c444f9d4bc1136c721:50
kerioarcean: hmm, that's a neat changelog21:51
kerioi kinda want to install it, but it's not thumby :c21:51
arceanheh, i don't have -thumb sdk environment :)21:53
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merlin1991arcean: how did you fix the caller lock problem?21:59
arceanorientationlock checks window's name and if it's "rtcom-call-ui" then the window is not locked to the landscape22:01
merlin1991hehe22:01
arcean+ small hack for the incoming call dialog22:01
merlin1991and how did you get double rotation with lock fixed?22:02
arceanthat's the old Qt's problem :P22:03
arceanbefore blacklist was working only for windows which do not have portrait supported or requested flags22:04
arceannow it's working for every window22:04
merlin1991:)22:04
merlin1991btw if you keep fixing the formating and coding style in h-d one day one could possibly read that code ;)22:05
arceanhehe22:05
* merlin1991 feels like a new -testing is around the corner22:05
* merlin1991 also currently watches the fsckd acer recovery util burn 4!! backup dvds 22:07
merlin1991and then I'll wipe it with a debian testing install :D22:07
kerio¿lol qué?22:07
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keriowhy are you making recovery dvds?22:07
arceanouch, 4 dvds? :D22:07
merlin1991I also can't find my win7 dvd :/22:08
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keriomerlin1991: new -testing, new -testing! ^_____^22:19
DocScrutinizer05oooh, finally working orientation-antilock-nukeit?22:25
DocScrutinizer05I still think it's a friggin BUG that a single time accidently hitting the friggin orientation-lock-gadget nuckes my foo-may-rotate false, and needs me to start a mini scriptie to get back proper non-annoying 'classic' desktop22:27
DocScrutinizer05win7 DVD? what a useless approach will get started by such a tool?22:36
kerioDocScrutinizer05: often, the installation of win722:37
DocScrutinizer05I thought it can't get worse, when I had to manage my mail @ job on outlook under winXP.22:37
DocScrutinizer05Now I got mail via Lotus Domino web-frontend X-(22:38
merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: I need to keep a windows partition on the system for random university crap22:39
merlin1991but I'm definitely not keeping that bloated pre installed windows 7 home installation22:39
DocScrutinizer05halebop:~ # ls -l /windows/22:40
DocScrutinizer05total 822:40
DocScrutinizer05drwxr-xr-x 1 root users 8192 Jun 13 23:51 C22:40
DocScrutinizer05luckily this been XP22:40
DocScrutinizer05and it was juszt easy enough to resize that partion during openSuse install22:40
DocScrutinizer05yuck22:41
DocScrutinizer05I pndered posting a few `mount` lines here - but it flooded my screen ;-P22:42
DocScrutinizer05halebop:~ # mount|wc -l22:42
DocScrutinizer053222:42
kerioDocScrutinizer05: have you heard about fmg's 3.5 kernel? :D :D :D22:43
DocScrutinizer05friggin cgroups22:43
DocScrutinizer05kerio: I only heard you trolling22:43
keriofreemangordon got to the date picker dialog with linux 3.5.422:44
DocScrutinizer05what's the news about a 3.x kernel running on N900? We did that like 2 years ago22:44
kerioDocScrutinizer05: with working graphics?22:44
DocScrutinizer05lol22:44
DocScrutinizer05we got "working graphics" without any kernel. NOLO has pretty nice graphics22:45
kerioi thought that the big problem was the PVR drivers22:45
kerioyeah, the blue in the nokia logo is really vibrant22:45
DocScrutinizer05the big problem is completely changed kernel API... well and the drivers22:45
keriowell, how many kernel modules are closed, in stock fremantle?22:46
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DocScrutinizer05kernel devels have the extremely annoying habit to do subtle changes to /sysfs etc on every new minor kernel rev22:47
fw190DocScrutinizer05: howdy22:49
DocScrutinizer05o22:49
DocScrutinizer05o/22:49
DocScrutinizer05\o22:49
DocScrutinizer05o22:49
DocScrutinizer05.22:49
fw190any hints for something like autoremove in Ubuntu for cleaning suse from lxde?22:49
fw190manual tinkering is no go22:49
fw190as a already messed up a few things ;)22:50
DocScrutinizer05o.O22:50
fw190luckiliy suse is idiot proof22:50
fw190and even I have managed to fix it22:50
DocScrutinizer05sorry, I dunno a better way that yast install22:51
DocScrutinizer05or zypper22:51
DocScrutinizer05wichever of both meets your personal taste best22:52
fw190I have tried yast22:52
fw190and there still22:53
fw190are programs with lxde in name22:53
fw190while uninstalling22:53
fw190something with lxde in name I removed network center ;)22:53
DocScrutinizer05-u, --clean-deps            Automatically remove unneeded dependencies.22:55
DocScrutinizer05zypper help remove22:55
fw190ok22:55
DocScrutinizer05never tested it, just a guess22:55
fw190hahah22:55
fw190I'm dumb/brave enough to test it22:56
DocScrutinizer05-D, --dry-run               Test the removal, do not actually remove.22:57
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fw190BTW what does it mean wheb a apckage is in red in yast?22:59
fw190damn22:59
fw190wrote ed in google serach23:00
DocScrutinizer05err, something like "not installed from current set of active repos"23:00
fw190and that is why I had no results23:00
fw190just found it ;)23:00
DocScrutinizer05actually it might as well mean "installed version newer than newest available"23:01
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DocScrutinizer05but ptobably it simply means "not installed by me"23:01
fw190yeah23:02
fw190I'm cleaning the system becouse of my mistake23:02
fw190made the system disk to small23:02
DocScrutinizer05increase it23:03
DocScrutinizer05afaik yast partioner can resize quite a number of fs23:03
DocScrutinizer05not only friggin C:23:03
DocScrutinizer05kerio: no kernel module is closed23:04
DocScrutinizer05that would violate GPL23:05
DocScrutinizer05and that's actually the problem23:05
kerioisn't there something with "tainted" modules or something23:05
DocScrutinizer05all the nasty closed stuff is in userland23:05
DocScrutinizer05and that nasty closed userland stuff will expect kernel API of 2.623:06
keriohrmpf :c23:07
DocScrutinizer05have fun making all that shite work on3.5 kernel23:07
DocScrutinizer05mer had a nice easy going, since they had no closed userland blobs they needed to make work (except bme, and you know Nokia built a special patched version for them)23:10
DocScrutinizer05so mer was free to use newer kernel, and they did from very beginning23:10
DocScrutinizer05but maemo....23:11
DocScrutinizer05:-S23:11
keriowhat's all this userland that expects 2.6 kernel api?23:12
DocScrutinizer05well, all but bare bones linux core23:12
DocScrutinizer05ask Pali where's that pake about closed source packages23:16
DocScrutinizer05page*23:16
DocScrutinizer05on wiki.maemo.org23:16
Palihttps://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages23:16
Pali~closed_packages is https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages23:17
infobotPali: okay23:17
DocScrutinizer05~#maemo closed_packages is https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages23:17
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay23:17
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, closed_packages is <reply>see #maemo closed_packages23:18
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay23:18
DocScrutinizer05~closed_packages23:19
infobotrumour has it, closed_packages is https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages23:19
DocScrutinizer05o.O23:19
DocScrutinizer05~literal closed_packages23:19
infobot"#maemo closed_packages" is "https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages"23:19
DocScrutinizer05lol23:19
DocScrutinizer05~literal _default closed_packages23:19
infobot"closed_packages" is "<reply>see #maemo closed_packages"23:19
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DocScrutinizer05~chanset #maemo-ssu23:21
infobotchan: #maemo-ssu (see _default also)23:21
infobot OnJoin => 0, _time_added => 1326654507, autojoin => infobot, factoidSearch => $chan #maemo _default23:21
DocScrutinizer05lol23:21
DocScrutinizer05I'm so smart ;-P23:22
DocScrutinizer05~forget _default closed_packages23:22
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called '_default closed_packages' to forget23:22
DocScrutinizer05~forget closed_packages23:23
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot closed_packages23:23
DocScrutinizer05~literal closed_packages23:23
infobot"#maemo closed_packages" is "https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages"23:23
DocScrutinizer05~closed_packages23:23
infobot[closed_packages] https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages23:23
DocScrutinizer05Pali: if ever you wanna invoke those factoid e.g in #armattan, do like ~#maemo <factoid>23:24
DocScrutinizer05wait....23:24
DocScrutinizer05~chanset #harmattan23:25
infobotchan: #harmattan (see _default also)23:25
infobot autojoin => infobot, factoidSearch => $chan #maemo _default23:25
DocScrutinizer05nah ;-P23:25
tadzik~#armattan23:25
DocScrutinizer05#maemo <factoids> work in #armattan as well :-D23:25
tadzikinfobot: liar!23:25
infobothey, I just work here; I don't have to take that kind of abuse from you23:25
tadzikoh, sorry for that23:25
kerio~botsnack23:27
infobotthanks, kerio23:27
DocScrutinizer05Pali: I don't think closed_packages is a term associated with maemo worldwide23:27
DocScrutinizer05that's why I narrowed it down to #maemo closed_packages23:28
Paliok23:28
DocScrutinizer05I.E. I made it a #maemo specific factoid23:28
DocScrutinizer05in e.g. #debian, nobody will know and neither get to know from infobot about closed_packages23:29
DocScrutinizer05in #maemo-ssu and #harmattan though the #maemo factoids work as well23:29
DocScrutinizer05(and eventually Tim Riker will kill me for that)23:30
DocScrutinizer05he's afraid his MySQL database will explode with too many search alternatives (as now the bot first looks for #maemo-ssu <factoid>, then for #maemo <factoid>, then for plain global aka _default <factoid>)23:31
DocScrutinizer05even worse for "ignore" since bot has to check ignore list for every text addressed to him23:32
DocScrutinizer05but hey23:33
DocScrutinizer05~status23:33
infobotSince Thu Oct  4 13:00:55 2012, there have been 13 modifications, 714 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 326 commands.  I have been awake for 7d 7h 32m 20s this session, and currently reference 118748 factoids.  I'm using about 35808 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2023.03/48.9 child 0/023:33
DocScrutinizer05714 queries in 6 days won't kill a decent MySQL DB, even when each of them would cause 100s of SQL queries23:34
DocScrutinizer05I again suffer from IRC diarrhea :-/23:35
DocScrutinizer05sorry for spamming chan23:35
DocScrutinizer05~4412323:39
DocScrutinizer05~441223:39
DocScrutinizer05~zip 4412323:39
infobotzip 44123 is, like, Euclid Cuyahoga OH23:39
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys zip23:39
infobotFactoid search of 'zip' by key (21 of 42422): zip 10559 ;; zip 14209 ;; zip 16728 ;; zip 23831 ;; zip 25276 ;; zip 25314 ;; zip 30236 ;; zip 31083 ;; zip 37871 ;; zip 40261 ;; zip 42566 ;; zip 47448 ;; zip 48891 ;; zip 4930 ;; zip 5354 ;; zip 55784 ;; zip 57428 ;; zip 6075 ;; zip 65108 ;; zip 66503 ;; zip 68767.23:39
DocScrutinizer05insane if you ask me23:40
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DocScrutinizer05it spoils cookies23:41
DocScrutinizer05~cookie23:42
* infobot pulls out the cookie jar and finds natalie... part of katie, manpiulates override entries23:42
DocScrutinizer05~cookie23:42
infobotHey docscrutinizer05, weathercode kakw is Klawock, Klawock (Klawock)23:42
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DocScrutinizer05~cookie23:42
* infobot spins the wheel of knowledge and ponders... weathercode alindao... FEFA located in Central African Republic. 05-03N 021-12E.23:42
DocScrutinizer05oh lol23:43
DocScrutinizer05typical for demonstration purposes23:43
DocScrutinizer05~listkey weathercode23:43
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys weathercode23:43
infobotFactoid search of 'weathercode' by key (13 of 11705): weathercode andapa ;; weathercode artesia ;; weathercode chivenor ;; weathercode cluj-napoca ;; weathercode dabp ;; weathercode dbbk ;; weathercode durango ;; weathercode ftty ;; weathercode hongqiao ;; weathercode kbak ;; weathercode kbkv ;; weathercode kdfi ;; weathercode kmri.23:43
DocScrutinizer05~cookie23:44
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* infobot pulls out the cookie jar and finds quickbooks... hot23:44
DocScrutinizer05~cookie23:44
* infobot spins the wheel of knowledge and ponders... zip 60572... Fox Valley Du Page IL23:44
DocScrutinizer05yeah23:44
DocScrutinizer05statistically each 3rd cookie would be a zip23:45
DocScrutinizer05the funnier I got 2 consecutive weathercode cookies, sth that's likelihood 0.1 * 0.123:46

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