IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Friday, 2012-09-28

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DocScrutinizer05well, hoping for a happy coincidence for a meeting is probably not going to fly. We might have to schedule some fixed date00:48
DocScrutinizer05tomorrow is Friday ;-D00:49
DocScrutinizer05I once read somewhere it's the day where we usually try to hang out here00:51
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gregoamerlin1991: (a few days later but still:) debsecan, for checking security issues on your install02:02
gregoamerlin1991: and/or subscribe to the security-announce ML02:02
gregoamerlin1991: and/or setup unattended-updates for the security repo if you like automatisms02:03
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freemangordonmerlin1991: yeah, debian/rules dh_strip line is OK for debhelper 4. But I didn't dare to change debian/compat, as there of a risk to break something else08:51
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fw190morning09:47
fw190just found this on TMO : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8703509:48
fw190interesting09:48
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tadzikhm. I'd rather see something that does nothing but making icon click areas bigger, if you know what I mean10:25
tadzikit's frustrating when you press an icon and it reads it as clicking outside and closes the menu10:25
fw190I know what you mean10:32
fw190it happens to me all the time10:33
fw190especially with the row on the right10:33
tadzikyep10:33
tadzikalso, the comments there, "I may be old-fashioned but I prefer clicking X than swiping"10:34
tadzikimo that's just killing all the advantages that a touchscreen has, bringing it down to the level a PC with a mouse. Especially when the touchscreen is shitty and you often misclick stuff10:35
fw190well for me X is also the prefered one10:35
fw190hmm you have a point there10:36
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freemangordontadzik: n900 touchscreen is everything but shitty imo10:44
freemangordontadzik: BTW any development on the opera case?10:45
deepyfreemangordon: mine seems to scratch easily10:45
tadzikwell, I keep misclicking on stuff every once in a while, sometimes even when using stylus10:45
freemangordonput a screen protector on it, as simple as that10:45
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tadzikthe X in task switcher isn't too easy to click, imho10:45
freemangordontadzik: calibrate it ;)10:45
freemangordonand change your screen protector (if using one)10:46
tadzikit would probably work better if I calibrated myself, and always click exactly where I want and not a milimeter farther10:46
tadzikI still have the one that was sticked to the screen when I bought it10:46
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fw190dafaq14:27
fw190the world is ending14:27
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fw190I just recived a positive reply14:27
fw190the are transfering me to stationary studies14:27
fw190o.O14:27
fw190I'm redaing it and reading and can't belive it14:27
chem|st?14:27
fw190chem|st: Since this year I won't have to pay for my studies14:28
tadzikfw190: which uni?14:28
fw190UAM14:28
tadzikdoesn't ring a bell, where's that?14:28
tadzikgood job, congrats :)14:29
fw190amu.edu.pl14:29
fw190PhD14:29
fw190Poznań14:29
tadzikah, Poznań14:29
tadzikI was there for like 2 hours recently, just a fly-through :)14:29
tadzikI'm studying/working in Warsaw14:29
fw190ahhh14:29
fw190our famous airport14:29
tadzikit wasn't that bad14:30
fw190with just a few planes starting from it14:30
tadzikI mean, it has at least 3 free wifis14:30
tadzikso it's better than France and Germany combined14:30
fw190hahahah14:31
fw190this is imposible14:31
fw190I can't belive it14:31
fw190;)14:31
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tadzik:) This reminds of my reaction when I got accepted on the faculty I wanted14:37
tadzikthe "Oooh fuuuck" for entire home to hear14:38
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fw190hahahhaha14:39
fw190I have said to my wife kurwa niemozliwe14:39
fw190which means the same ;p14:39
tadziksounds quite accurate :)14:40
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Lava_Croftpoland \o/14:52
Lava_Croftthere's a vegetable processing factory behind my house14:53
Lava_Croftit doesn't belong to me, but its full of funny polish people that work their ass off in 4 degrees celsius14:53
tadzikwell, our main export is people I guess14:54
fw190Lava_croft: what do you expect - we earn here about 400 euro and pay for gasoline the same as in Germany14:59
fw190peopel will go everywhere to eran a bi tmore14:59
Lava_Croftoh, i dont mind it at all14:59
tadzikwell, we get paid less and we pay less for stuff, except gasoline alright14:59
Lava_Croftif dutchies werent so lazy/whatever they would do the work:P15:00
Lava_Croftbut if they dont, other people need to do it, because i do want my fresh factory process pre-cut and pre-sorted veggies15:00
tadziklook on the bright side: people abroad rip their hair of when you tell them about beer for ~75 euro cents15:00
Lava_Croftprocessed*15:00
fw190tadzik: we pay the same or more for TV, smartphone etc. but still we earn 400 euro15:01
tadzikcompare to that to Norway and their madness15:01
Lava_Croftbesides, you guys got the most evil alcoholic beverage i ever tasted15:01
Lava_Croftspiritus15:01
tadzikI dunno, I pay ~15€ for some television and a 8Mbit internet. I don't even know what television is that, as I don't own a TV ;)15:02
tadzikno eye deer how does that compare to prices in other countries15:02
Lava_Croftwe pay 45 euros for HDtv and internets15:02
tadzikand probably earn like 3x our money15:04
tadzikI don't mind it unless I'm going abroad for a while ;)15:04
Lava_Croftdepends on the hours you work15:05
fw190tadzik I mean a TV from shop15:05
tadzikoh, ok15:05
Lava_Crofthow many hours do you work for 400euros15:05
Lava_Croftwhat kind of work do you do15:05
tadzikfw190: what is the average pay in Poland, about 3k PLN?15:05
Lava_Croftthere's probably a lot of poles making more money than i do! :<15:05
fw190hahhah15:05
fw190tadzik please15:05
tadzikno, seriously15:05
fw190this ncludes probably Kulczyk etc15:06
Lava_Croftbut yes, in general the wages in poles are lower than in the netherlands15:06
tadzikI know median is somewhere about 1500 at most :P15:06
Lava_Croftotherwise the dutch people would go to poland to work ;)15:06
fw190a normal guy in tesco gets half of it15:06
fw190so its more to 400 euro15:06
fw190ma last full time job got me 1500zł15:06
tadzikthat's correct, sadly :(15:06
fw190a the hell15:06
fw190my wife15:06
fw190who is a teacher at UNI15:06
fw190gets 1500zł15:07
fw190less then 400 euro15:07
fw190for teaching students to be a dentist15:07
fw190this is poland15:07
fw190...15:07
tadzikyeah, teachers in non-private schools and unis are _so_ underpaid it's not even funny15:07
fw190I had to save money for more tan half a year to buy my precious N90015:08
fw190;)15:08
deepyouch15:08
deepytook me 1 month15:08
deepyand I'm at helpdesk15:08
tadzikbtw, the average pay in aug 2011 was 3666 PLN15:08
tadzikwhich is surreal if you know how much people actually get15:08
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fw190yep15:11
fw190and now the funny thing15:11
fw190we have to pay for our flat 1000PLN15:11
fw190for one month15:11
fw190hahahahah15:11
fw190gasoline 400 pLN food 500PLN and there is not much left15:11
fw190damn I hate tis country15:12
tadzikis that somewhere near the city centre?15:12
tadzikI have 3 rooms in Warsaw suburbs and it's 440-ish PLN, so like 110 €15:13
tadzikbut it's owned by my family, not rented15:13
fw190this is a kawalerka15:13
tadzikso that's probably a lot different15:13
fw190the guy gets 800 PLN the rest is for hot water, etc15:13
tadzikI see15:14
fw190this one is cheap - the last one as 120015:14
fw190ah lets stop it15:15
fw190this starts to look like a clasic Polsih chit chat15:15
fw190;)15:16
fw190enough complains today I celebrate15:16
fw190;)15:16
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merlin1991fw190: in my experience clasic polish chit chat does not happen in english ;)15:34
merlin1991*classic*15:34
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fw190merlin1991: but Polsih chit chat always end with complains15:40
fw190we had a lot of complains so had to end it15:40
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DocScrutinizer51WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEND19:32
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merlin1991srly DocScrutinizer51, that sounds like you hate your job19:56
ivgalvezmerlin1991 hi20:06
ivgalvezit has passed a bit of time since last time we talked. Do you have any news about the web interface for repository?20:07
merlin1991lemme see if I see any buttons20:14
merlin1991ivgalvez: still nothing20:15
ivgalvezI'm really pissed off20:18
ivgalvezI hope that a legal entity could give us enough powers to push for it20:19
ivgalvezby the way, we need volunteers for Council20:19
ivgalvezit seems that Board might have enough members20:19
ivgalvezanyone?20:19
ivgalvezDocScrutinizer05?20:20
DocScrutinizer51really?20:42
ivgalvezabsolutely20:43
DocScrutinizer51OMG20:43
ivgalvezplease consider it20:43
ivgalvezwe REALLY need people willing to push for the community20:44
ivgalvezotherwise we are doomed20:44
DocScrutinizer51that's the problem. I'm willing but short on time20:45
ivgalvezevery one is in the same situation20:45
DocScrutinizer51and a lot of community will be unhappy to see me in council anyway20:45
ivgalvezthat's why we need to have enough people20:46
ivgalvezso we can share tasks20:46
ivgalvezfor example, these past 2 weeks have been a pain in the ass for me at work20:46
DocScrutinizer51suggest me. I'll consider not rejecting the appointment20:46
ivgalvezOK, I'll do. You know that we disagree sometimes, but even though I think you will be valuable20:47
DocScrutinizer51I don't think it's a bad thing to disagree20:48
ivgalvezprecisely20:50
ivgalvezthanks for considering it20:50
DocScrutinizer51of course it's even better to work it out20:50
DocScrutinizer51I can't promise more than 2h / week dedicated to maemo stuff20:51
ivgalvezThat's normal, the problem is when more than one member is on vacation or have personal issues at the same time20:53
ivgalvezif we are not enough, then it's really problematic20:53
DocScrutinizer51*sigh*, I must've lost my mind20:55
DocScrutinizer51anyway, I always told I'll not let maemo down20:56
ivgalvezwe are really close to the end now20:56
kerioALL HAIL JOERG20:57
kerioo/20:57
ivgalvezwe have a meeting now20:57
kerio*HEIL20:57
DocScrutinizer51meeting?20:58
keriohailing joergs would be funny to watch, though20:58
DocScrutinizer51sorry, I'm having my weekend beer20:58
ivgalvezat #maemo-meeting20:58
kerioDocScrutinizer05: <Woody14619a> So, I'm currently on my N900, at work but offsite. I may be pulled away or lose connection on occasion.20:59
keriowoody, right now20:59
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