| kerio | do i really need /usr/share/locale in the rootfs? | 00:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 02:19 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: ping | 10:49 |
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| AapoRantalainen | Has anybody in cssu done anything related osso-mahjong? I made optified (and free) tileset for it, but game-package needs repacking also. | 15:24 |
| kerio | osso-mahjong is already optified, isn't it | 15:25 |
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| kerio | OMFG PALI | 15:29 |
| kerio | YOU'RE BACK | 15:29 |
| Pali | hi :-) | 15:29 |
| kerio | HI | 15:30 |
| kerio | I'M EXCITED | 15:30 |
| kerio | THAT'S WHY I'M WRITING IN ALLCAPS | 15:30 |
| AapoRantalainen | kerio, if it is not in https://gitorious.org/community-ssu where to look? | 15:32 |
| kerio | AapoRantalainen: idk, is it even open source? | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | package interface! | 15:33 |
| AapoRantalainen | kerio, game is open source. graphics are not | 15:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh LOL | 15:33 |
| AapoRantalainen | and game depends versioned graphics package, so my free version can't be used as drop-in-replacement after game is repacked | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | awesome :-/ | 15:35 |
| AapoRantalainen | just trivial change, but I'm asking what is currently correct way to release it | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good question | 15:35 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: btw, libc in n900 confirmed for lack of $6$ support | 15:35 |
| kerio | for crypt() | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 15:35 |
| kerio | it does have $1$ though | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AapoRantalainen: I'd guess it's not really a topic for CSSU, but that might be incorrect assumption | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AapoRantalainen: probably most simple packaging was to call the whole stuff libre-mahjong | 15:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which contains the free graphics and in turn imports http://maemo.org/packages/view/osso-mahjong/ --- no packaging expert here though, if the 'base' package actaully depends on http://maemo.org/packages/view/osso-graphics-game-mahjong/ then we probably have a problem | 15:39 |
| kerio | our only problem is the fact that the optimization is probably the weird maemo-optify thing | 15:39 |
| kerio | so upgrading a package like that could be weird | 15:40 |
| AapoRantalainen | DocScrutinizer05: yes, I can even make own (libre) fork of osso-mahjong, and push it to extras-devel | 15:41 |
| AapoRantalainen | and then there are no CSSU involved | 15:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the cleanest way to deal with it | 15:42 |
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| freemangordon | guys, don't know about you, but I feel ashamed of the "hype" new CSSU-S got. Don't know why, but I have a feeling it is used by no more than 5 people | 18:37 |
| kerio | haha | 18:40 |
| kerio | Pali: do you know exactly *what* in ke-recv decides what to export in mass storage mode? | 18:40 |
| Pali | kerio, what do you mean? | 18:41 |
| kerio | who tells g_file_storage to export mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk1? | 18:42 |
| kerio | when you tap on "usb mass storage mode" | 18:44 |
| kerio | in the dialogue | 18:44 |
| Pali | shell script | 18:47 |
| kerio | which one? | 18:47 |
| Pali | something like mass storage enable | 18:47 |
| Pali | look in ke-recv source stree | 18:47 |
| kerio | no, that one *takes* the device files as parameters | 18:47 |
| Pali | and grep it in | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | Pali: seems script gets mount point from ke-recv, i looked in the sources | 18:48 |
| Pali | or maybe ke-recv will tell to shell script also mmcbl* | 18:48 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 18:48 |
| Pali | and it can come from some /etc/[maemo|osso|hildon] config | 18:48 |
| kerio | no "0p2" in /etc/* or /etc/*/* | 18:52 |
| kerio | hrmpf, is the dialog box for pc suite mode/MSM open? | 18:56 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: ping | 19:05 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: isn't -thumb aligned with -testing anyway? | 19:05 |
| freemangordon | kerio: yes | 19:05 |
| kerio | so to do a new -thumb release you need a new -testing release | 19:05 |
| freemangordon | yes | 19:05 |
| freemangordon | that is what I want to ask merlin1991 - when will that happen | 19:06 |
| kerio | freemangordon: can the kernel be compiled as thumb2, btw? | 19:10 |
| kerio | i mean, is it even a meaningful question? | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | kerio: no, it misses too much patches | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | according to merlin1991's staements it will happen this week | 20:27 |
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| Sicelo | freemangordon: you may be right about stats of CSSU-S, but i hope this doesn't mean it might get "discontinued" | 21:57 |
| freemangordon | hmm, not my intent | 21:57 |
| Sicelo | kewl | 21:58 |
| kerio | who actually *uses* cssu-s here? | 21:59 |
| kerio | like, on your "main" n900 | 21:59 |
| * Sicelo does | 22:00 | |
| Sicelo | i have only one N900, and it's my main phone | 22:00 |
| kerio | i only have one usable N900 too | 22:00 |
| kerio | but it's running cssu-testing+thumb+devel | 22:01 |
| freemangordon | me too, ut that is not the point | 22:01 |
| freemangordon | *but | 22:01 |
| kerio | fuck yeah bleeding edge | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | my point was that one update in a year is not enough to attract "customers" | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | kerio: no | 22:02 |
| * Sicelo isn't yet prepared to reflash device.. besides kernel | 22:02 | |
| freemangordon | -stable is not for bleeding edge | 22:02 |
| kerio | i'm not talking about stable | 22:02 |
| kerio | i'm talking about how the bleeding edge is awesome | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 22:02 |
| * Sicelo uses Debian Squeeze on desktop, and is therefore used to outdated stuff, lol | 22:03 | |
| * kerio uses debian sid on his server | 22:03 | |
| kerio | >:D | 22:03 |
| kerio | to be fair i need an updated version of transmission-daemon | 22:03 |
| * Sicelo has Wheezy on the N900 though ;) | 22:04 | |
| kerio | lol | 22:05 |
| kerio | i should install easy-debian | 22:05 |
| * Sicelo has that too.. for those times.. | 22:05 | |
| kerio | but i looked at the easy-chroot source and i wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole | 22:05 |
| Sicelo | by the way, any of you good people here that would have some time to spare to compile radio-bcm2048 module against Nemo's latest kernel? | 22:06 |
| Sicelo | flattery never works :P | 22:09 |
| kerio | "COMPILE THE radio-bcm2048 MODULE FOR NEMO, YOU COCKSUCKERS" | 22:10 |
| Sicelo | :D | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: how is the latest Nemo, is it still crawling like previous versions? | 22:20 |
| Sicelo | well, from a UI point of view, it looks great. but it definitely sucks on N900 because they made it "swipey", lol | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | at least it can make and receive calls ok | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | i just use their kernel and modules for my Debian | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | well, my question is "how fast is it?" | 22:23 |
| Sicelo | fast.. hmm, not too sure. it was magnitudes slower than Maemo. however, i won't rule out my SD card as the cause | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | seems like no difference then | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | 15-20 seconds to load FF | 22:24 |
| Sicelo | i didn't even get to installing any applications. but the preinstalled applications didn't take that much, maybe 5 seconds | 22:25 |
| kerio | Sicelo: oh god | 22:26 |
| kerio | D: | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | 5 seconds to start calculator is not that much? well, I might be spoiled by maemo | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | anyway it is OT here :) | 22:27 |
| Sicelo | lol. i have to be fair to the devs man. i know for sure my SD card isn't the best too | 22:27 |
| Sicelo | :P | 22:27 |
| Sicelo | i'll move my debian off emmc to the SD card and compare startup times | 22:28 |
| kerio | wait, which debian? | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | Wheezy | 22:29 |
| kerio | installed as an os? | 22:29 |
| kerio | :o | 22:29 |
| kerio | neat | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | at the times i didn't have an SD card, so i created a partition in emmc | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | *time | 22:30 |
| Sicelo | if i can just get Pali's uboot working, all would be perfect | 22:33 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: i keep doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade but nothing is upgraded D: | 23:02 |
| kerio | release some updates plskthx | 23:03 |
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