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DocScrutinizer51 | actually I guess my systray menu is fecked | 00:48 |
DocScrutinizer51 | meh, reboot | 00:48 |
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merlin1991 | freemangordon, Pali, arcean, chem|st, MohammadAG, DocScrutinizer, andre__ ping | 18:55 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: pong | 18:56 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: btw any progress with luf's libcurl? | 18:57 |
andre__ | merlin1991, pong? | 18:57 |
merlin1991 | andre__: we'll have a meeting today if possible :) | 18:57 |
andre__ | uh, when? | 18:57 |
merlin1991 | thoguht you might be interested aswell :) | 18:57 |
merlin1991 | anywhere between now and midnight when the key players are online | 18:57 |
andre__ | I'll probably lurk, quite busy, but still want to read the backlog, sure :) | 18:57 |
andre__ | thanks! | 18:57 |
Pali | merlin1991, pong | 18:58 |
freemangordon | 18:56 <freemangordon> merlin1991: btw any progress with luf's libcurl? | 19:00 |
merlin1991 | ah sry read it, head the answer mentally typed, it just didn't went to the keyboard :P | 19:00 |
merlin1991 | yes, I've applied the patches (with a bit of trickery) and will push them to gitoirous after I've done a test or two | 19:01 |
merlin1991 | bah typo day | 19:01 |
Pali | I do not know when I will go away, so some my info: | 19:03 |
Pali | patched osso-xterm working fine on my n900 - it can go to cssu-devel | 19:03 |
Pali | also patched busybox can go to cssu-devel | 19:04 |
merlin1991 | Pali you can push anything you want to cssu-devel ;) | 19:04 |
merlin1991 | what's patched in that busybox? | 19:04 |
Pali | portrait mode support | 19:04 |
Pali | before busybox show a lot of free lines | 19:04 |
Pali | when you try to rotate | 19:04 |
Pali | with this patch forced rotation working | 19:05 |
merlin1991 | ah so you still have to force xterm to rotate? | 19:05 |
Pali | yes | 19:05 |
Pali | and is blacklisted | 19:05 |
Pali | because of that busybox error | 19:05 |
Pali | bash working fine | 19:05 |
kerio | Pali: does it work correctly with busybox-power? | 19:06 |
kerio | also, what's this cssu-devel? | 19:06 |
kerio | i like the sound of it | 19:06 |
merlin1991 | kerio: obviously not :D | 19:06 |
merlin1991 | the same set of patches has to go into bs-power :) | 19:07 |
kerio | by the way, why would anyone want to use osso-xterm in portrait? | 19:07 |
kerio | you have no keyboard there! | 19:07 |
merlin1991 | kerio: people are strange ;) | 19:07 |
Pali | kerio, I do not have busybox-power, so I do not know | 19:08 |
Pali | kerio, but you can enable forced rotation in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/... and remove osso-xterm from blacklist | 19:09 |
kerio | Pali: is there a way to forcibly *disable* portrait mode everywhere? | 19:09 |
Pali | kerio, and then you can test if busybox power working with rotation | 19:09 |
merlin1991 | Pali: I fear it's going to break installations of busybox power, but I can look into the packaging and write a fix to the instal scripts in case | 19:09 |
merlin1991 | kerio: orientation lock? :D | 19:09 |
MohammadAG | merlin1991, pong | 19:12 |
kerio | merlin1991: another icon in the status area, ew :c | 19:13 |
Pali | kerio, button in status area or gconf-tool via xterm | 19:13 |
merlin1991 | hm we just need chem|st, then we can start | 19:14 |
Pali | merlin1991, can you create busybox and upstart repository on gitorious cssu? | 19:24 |
merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/busybox | 19:25 |
merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/upstart | 19:25 |
kerio | upstart? | 19:25 |
merlin1991 | dang where's chem|st | 19:25 |
merlin1991 | kerio: yes, mamemo uses upstart as init | 19:26 |
kerio | oic | 19:26 |
kerio | ...what's wrong with SysV init? :c | 19:26 |
chem|st | pong | 19:26 |
kerio | yay! | 19:26 |
kerio | he's here! | 19:26 |
kerio | everybody is here! | 19:26 |
merlin1991 | MohammadAG, freemangordon still here? | 19:26 |
ShadowX | kerio, upsart is mainly even orientated .... and to be honest sysV init sux :) | 19:28 |
kerio | no u sux | 19:28 |
kerio | and what kind of event does boot time have? | 19:28 |
kerio | "system booted, start *everything*" | 19:28 |
Pali | merlin1991, code pushed | 19:29 |
merlin1991 | come on people don't pop in and out :D | 19:30 |
ShadowX | kerio, no idea why maemo is using upstart init ..but you can think of upstart as sysV++ .... kind of | 19:30 |
MohammadAG | merlin1991, yes | 19:30 |
kerio | hm | 19:30 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: you're last ;) | 19:31 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: I will be here in about 20-30 minutes | 19:32 |
kerio | but... you're here right now! | 19:33 |
kerio | you just typed a message! | 19:33 |
kerio | i saw it! | 19:34 |
DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: what's the meeting today now? gotta scheule my execution ;-) | 19:41 |
merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: somehwere around 19:00 (cet) | 19:42 |
DocScrutinizer51 | eeek | 19:42 |
DocScrutinizer51 | too early | 19:42 |
DocScrutinizer51 | dafaq, I'll simply leave office right now | 19:43 |
DocScrutinizer51 | a bit pissed anyway | 19:43 |
chem|st | ;) | 19:44 |
chem|st | sounds like me 45mins ago | 19:44 |
kerio | :c | 19:44 |
MohammadAG | merlin1991, gnome-shell doesn't pop notifications | 19:47 |
MohammadAG | so I only get highlights on my iPhone | 19:47 |
merlin1991 | lol | 19:47 |
kerio | see? Apple is great! | 19:48 |
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merlin1991 | kerio: you traitor :D | 19:49 |
kerio | me? he (MohammadAG)'s the one with an iPhone | 19:50 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: Now I am here | 19:53 |
merlin1991 | whatabout the rest? chem|st, Pali, MohammadAG, DocScrutinizer51 ? | 19:54 |
chem|st | 1 | 19:54 |
Pali | here | 19:54 |
DocScrutinizer51 | ok, I'm semi-available for next +-40min | 19:54 |
MohammadAG | here | 19:54 |
DocScrutinizer51 | then fully available | 19:54 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: I belive you have something to say? | 19:55 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: sure :) | 19:56 |
freemangordon | MohammadAG: what has happened with those thumb-compiled binaries in latest CSSU update? | 19:56 |
MohammadAG | they stayed there, every time I could update gnome-vfs you say there are other thumb binaries | 19:57 |
freemangordon | And a bit more general question: MohammadAG, are you still a functioning maintainer of CSSU-T? | 19:57 |
MohammadAG | I'm not sure | 19:57 |
freemangordon | no, the last time we discussed that you said you're going to fix all of them | 19:58 |
MohammadAG | I said I was going to upload gnome-vfs, then you said there were other binaries | 19:58 |
freemangordon | now, we have a problem here | 19:58 |
MohammadAG | so that didn't happen | 19:58 |
DocScrutinizer51 | general notion seems: cssu-t maintenance needs some more manpower | 19:59 |
DocScrutinizer51 | y whatever mean | 19:59 |
DocScrutinizer51 | s | 19:59 |
freemangordon | well, before solving the thumb issue, I think we should solve the general problem | 20:00 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: :nod: | 20:00 |
MohammadAG | indeed | 20:00 |
MohammadAG | so, two maintainers or one is the question? | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: I'd suggest you ask for, or accept offered support/co-maintainer | 20:01 |
MohammadAG | I never rejected any offers | 20:01 |
MohammadAG | at least I don't recall I have | 20:01 |
DocScrutinizer51 | i don't see a reason to deprive MohammadAG rom maintainer status | 20:01 |
merlin1991 | MohammadAG: I think 2 or 1 depends on how much of your time you still want to invest into the maemo cssu | 20:02 |
merlin1991 | also I agree with doc | 20:02 |
freemangordon | noone asks for mag's removal, AIUI | 20:02 |
DocScrutinizer51 | but I'd urgently suggest merlin1991 takes comaintainership of T | 20:02 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: you'd better ask merlin if he has the time needed to do that | 20:02 |
DocScrutinizer51 | if you'd accept that, merlin1991 | 20:03 |
DocScrutinizer51 | well, if there's too much workload from S for merlin1991 then I think I heard chem|st would be willing to take comaintainership for S | 20:04 |
freemangordon | chem|st: ^^^ ? | 20:04 |
DocScrutinizer51 | so we'd have two maintainers for each flavour | 20:04 |
chem|st | 1 | 20:05 |
DocScrutinizer51 | rather 1.5 mainainers per distro | 20:05 |
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freemangordon | ~1 | 20:05 |
infobot | 1 is a number, silly | 20:05 |
freemangordon | thanks bot | 20:05 |
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chem|st | ~+1 | 20:06 |
infobot | 1 is a number, silly | 20:06 |
chem|st | hehe | 20:06 |
DocScrutinizer51 | thanks infobot | 20:06 |
infobot | de nada, DocScrutinizer51 | 20:06 |
freemangordon | merlin1991, chem|st: would you please give a more deffinitive answer, so we can move on | 20:07 |
DocScrutinizer51 | yep, me need an 'official' I accept | 20:08 |
merlin1991 | I agree | 20:08 |
chem|st | I accept | 20:08 |
DocScrutinizer51 | we nee an official "i accept" | 20:08 |
DocScrutinizer51 | \o/ | 20:08 |
DocScrutinizer51 | :) | 20:08 |
DocScrutinizer51 | MohammadAG: fine with you? | 20:08 |
MohammadAG | Yes, fine by me | 20:09 |
MohammadAG | so is that 2 more, or 1? | 20:09 |
freemangordon | 2 more AIUI | 20:09 |
merlin1991 | it's you and me for T and chemist and me for S | 20:09 |
DocScrutinizer51 | so you 3 guys will know whom too ping to make that clear | 20:09 |
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freemangordon | oops, 1 more , infobot was right :D | 20:10 |
DocScrutinizer51 | we got one more mapower, two more roles | 20:10 |
DocScrutinizer51 | manpower | 20:11 |
DocScrutinizer51 | new role? merlin1991 maintains T | 20:11 |
freemangordon | 1 more person | 20:11 |
DocScrutinizer51 | new role? chem|st maintains S | 20:11 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 20:12 |
DocScrutinizer51 | remaining roles: moh for T and merlin1991 for S | 20:13 |
freemangordon | so, we only need an "official" "I swear I am ok" from chem|st and merlin1991 and we're ready to go | 20:13 |
chem|st | o.O | 20:13 |
DocScrutinizer51 | we already had that | 20:13 |
freemangordon | sorry, i missed it | 20:14 |
DocScrutinizer51 | so let's move on | 20:14 |
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freemangordon | yeah, that is what I was talking about | 20:15 |
freemangordon | anyway, we have at least one thumb-compiled binary in latest T | 20:15 |
chem|st | I missed 2 auctions and lost on 3... I'd like to get another n900... | 20:15 |
DocScrutinizer51 | fine, can we move on? | 20:16 |
freemangordon | my suggestion is to have a new update with all the stuff from latest re-compiled. | 20:16 |
DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: noted | 20:16 |
DocScrutinizer51 | I'll pin you in case... | 20:17 |
DocScrutinizer51 | and getrid of damn operator widget dep hell | 20:17 |
chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: business as usual | 20:18 |
DocScrutinizer51 | afk for 10 min | 20:18 |
DocScrutinizer51 | I'll read backscroll @home | 20:19 |
freemangordon | arcean, Pali, merlin1991: is there something ready for T? since the last update? | 20:19 |
merlin1991 | there's a bunch of things from Pali to be merged | 20:19 |
freemangordon | but those are for devel afaik | 20:19 |
arcean | ke-recv? | 20:19 |
freemangordon | hmm, what is fixed? | 20:20 |
freemangordon | in ke-recv | 20:20 |
arcean | hmm, Pali^ | 20:20 |
Pali | it is for devel too | 20:20 |
Pali | automounting ntfs | 20:20 |
Pali | (fixed) | 20:20 |
Pali | and auto usb network mode in pc suite mode (when user create file /etc/something...) | 20:21 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: is it a good idea to hold the update so libcurl to be included too? | 20:21 |
kerio | automounting ntfs? neat | 20:22 |
kerio | with ntfs-3g? | 20:22 |
Pali | no, with kernel driver | 20:22 |
Pali | kerio, also fix for other parittions type | 20:22 |
Pali | there is bug that sometimes hal does not send fs type | 20:22 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: after all we can't do much of a testing besides it works/not | 20:23 |
Pali | so when ke-recv send empty fstype, mount script will ask blkid for fstype | 20:23 |
Pali | I know what should go to testing | 20:23 |
freemangordon | and it is? | 20:23 |
Pali | updated tvout package which move package from section user/* | 20:23 |
merlin1991 | Pali: did you write the call to blkid in a way that it does not use the cache? (there's a parameter for that) | 20:23 |
Pali | merlin1991, I think no | 20:24 |
merlin1991 | the blkid cache contains all sorts of evil, so better change that to use that option | 20:24 |
Pali | please look at tvout status menu plugin and push new version (which only move package from section user/desktop to nonuser) | 20:24 |
Pali | merlin1991, ok | 20:25 |
DocScrutinizer06 | k, back | 20:25 |
Pali | blkid: -c <file> cache file (default: /etc/blkid.tab, /dev/null = none) | 20:25 |
DocScrutinizer06 | :nod: | 20:27 |
DocScrutinizer06 | gave us days of laughter | 20:27 |
DocScrutinizer06 | ;-P | 20:27 |
kerio | what's the blkid cache? | 20:27 |
DocScrutinizer06 | BS | 20:28 |
DocScrutinizer06 | the idea of a crackhead | 20:28 |
DocScrutinizer06 | kerio: blkid caches the results of last system scan / last invocation in some private file and reuses them ininitely | 20:29 |
merlin1991 | kerio: blkid gives you detail information about your partitions, and it has a cache which stores all kinds of evil :D | 20:29 |
kerio | i see | 20:29 |
freemangordon | hmm, and what with cbs-widget? | 20:29 |
merlin1991 | creates nice phantom / invalid partitions when you don't call it with the proper commandline | 20:29 |
DocScrutinizer06 | freemangordon: kill it for now? | 20:30 |
kerio | cbs-widget needs to go, but this is not my 2c, this is my 0.0000000002c | 20:30 |
DocScrutinizer06 | or move it to optional? | 20:30 |
DocScrutinizer06 | or rename so it replaces original instead of conflicting with it? | 20:30 |
freemangordon | if we kill it now, it will never make it again (if you ask me), so decide wisely | 20:30 |
merlin1991 | it actually does not conflict with the original | 20:31 |
merlin1991 | it only conflicts with the other "custom" one | 20:31 |
DocScrutinizer06 | I'd opt for moving it to optional, but aiui merlin1991hasn't finished that yet ;-) | 20:31 |
merlin1991 | basically what we have todo is to move the patched lib into its own package and then have a user decision on the actual widget package | 20:31 |
DocScrutinizer06 | IANAP | 20:31 |
DocScrutinizer06 | i aint not a packager | 20:32 |
DocScrutinizer06 | so nfc | 20:32 |
merlin1991 | so we have libcurl | 20:32 |
merlin1991 | recompiled osso-gnome-vfs | 20:32 |
DocScrutinizer06 | merlin1991: could you take a note on your last post pelase | 20:32 |
DocScrutinizer06 | please | 20:33 |
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freemangordon | merlin1991: not only osso-gnome-vfs | 20:34 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: one need to check all of the binaries from the latest update for being thumb-compiled | 20:35 |
merlin1991 | yes, but we know osso-gnome-vfs for sure, so that has to be done asap | 20:36 |
freemangordon | do we have a list of updated packages? | 20:36 |
DocScrutinizer06 | is there a reliable tool meanwhile to spot thumb binaries | 20:36 |
DocScrutinizer06 | ? | 20:36 |
freemangordon | hmm, lemme try to find the bug | 20:36 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#T-maemo4 is accurate | 20:38 |
DocScrutinizer06 | hell, there must be some sort of fingerprint to spot thumb binaries from arm binaries, no? | 20:38 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 20:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so would you mind me shooting myself now? | 20:41 |
freemangordon | there was some method described on bugs.maemo.org | 20:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | great, i'd just use a .45 on the forehead | 20:42 |
merlin1991 | WTF | 20:43 |
merlin1991 | libcurl has builddepends of openssh-server | 20:43 |
merlin1991 | hm seems I'll have to bounce it back to luf again | 20:46 |
freemangordon | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10333 | 20:49 |
povbot | Bug 10333: Thumb feature is not enable in the PR1.2 ROM | 20:49 |
DocScrutinizer05 | wtf? bug: ...is NOT enable...? | 20:50 |
freemangordon | You can find components using thumb functions with something like this: readelf -s $file | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ":[0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] " | 20:50 |
freemangordon | according to comment 4 | 20:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmmm | 20:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah | 20:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I see | 20:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | makes sense | 20:51 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: what do you think, it is above my scripting abilities | 20:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 20:51 |
freemangordon | well, I am lazy :) | 20:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it searches in readelf output for functions starting at impair addr | 20:51 |
freemangordon | aah | 20:52 |
freemangordon | yeah, makes sense | 20:52 |
DocScrutinizer05 | though I wonder if thumb functions actiually START at impair addr or just the jumps to those thumb functions are to impair addr, while the actual target is one off | 20:52 |
freemangordon | yeah, the functions start at pair address | 20:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | umm, prolly not | 20:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | probably thumbified functions actually start their code at impair addr | 20:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | since any jump to a pair addr in thumb code would switch back to ARM, no? | 20:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and actually packing could make impair function start addr for thumb, that's the whole rationale of BX aiui | 20:54 |
freemangordon | no, LSB is the one that is in charge | 20:55 |
freemangordon | but it is ignored | 20:55 |
freemangordon | when the address is calculated | 20:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | so what now? is it ignored or not? | 20:55 |
freemangordon | it is | 20:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then no function label will ever start at an impair addr, and obove search is BS | 20:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | wait, maybe that's the function jump / call, not the function label? | 20:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 20:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :0089ef81 is a label, no? | 20:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | == grep ":[0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] " | 20:58 |
freemangordon | hmm | 20:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: could you do me a favour and readelf -s yourACMEthumb_binary|pastebin | 20:59 |
freemangordon | but i don't see readelf on n900, lemme check in VM | 20:59 |
DocScrutinizer05 | get it with binutils | 21:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 21:00 |
merlin1991 | yep need binutils for it | 21:00 |
freemangordon | ok, will do it in SB | 21:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or you run the cmd on your favourite PC | 21:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | no need for SB | 21:01 |
freemangordon | no other favourite PC with linux :) | 21:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | readelf should work platform agnostic I'd think | 21:01 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# readelf -s /bin/devlocktool |pastebinit | 21:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED. Please use Pastebin's new API. http://pastebin.com/api | 21:06 |
kerio | DocScrutinizer05: hahahahaha | 21:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | FSCK U pastebin.com! | 21:06 |
DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, you even may paste it to a /query to me, freemangordon | 21:07 |
merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: as I told you swap the url for the bloody pastebin ;) | 21:07 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: lemme try it here first, but what I see sofar is that addresses start at /4 offset :( | 21:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 5: 0000894c 924 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND abort@GLIBC_2.4 (2) | 21:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 6: 00011910 4 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT 23 stderr@GLIBC_2.4 (2) | 21:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 7: 00008958 552 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND change_devlock_code | 21:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | seems like *my* /bin/devlocktool has all pair addr in there | 21:08 |
freemangordon | hmm, "715: 0000b8b9 764 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 10 main" | 21:10 |
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freemangordon | but the last grep does not work for some reason | 21:11 |
freemangordon | seems grep in SB is broken somehow | 21:12 |
merlin1991 | works on device | 21:13 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: grep? | 21:13 |
merlin1991 | the whole grep thingy from the bug report | 21:14 |
merlin1991 | readelf -s $file | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ":[0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] " | 21:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 715: .* FUNC | 21:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | errr | 21:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq, there's a space between ":" and first digit of addr | 21:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | look at >> 5: 0000894c 924 FUNC ... | 21:16 |
freemangordon | readelf -s hildon-home.launch | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ":[ 0-9a-f]*[13579bdf]" | 21:17 |
freemangordon | does the job | 21:17 |
merlin1991 | that ones is a bad regex | 21:17 |
freemangordon | well, it should be one liner | 21:18 |
freemangordon | anyway, function offsets are +1, i.e. odd | 21:19 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ | 21:20 |
freemangordon | we need space in regex | 21:20 |
freemangordon | i.e. [ 0-9a-f] | 21:20 |
merlin1991 | i think the regex is cleaner if the space goes between : and the selection for numbers | 21:21 |
freemangordon | yep | 21:22 |
freemangordon | readelf -s hildon-home.launch | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ": [0-9a-f]*[13579bdf]" | 21:22 |
merlin1991 | thus: readelf -s $FILE | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ": [0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] " | 21:22 |
freemangordon | :D | 21:22 |
* merlin1991 boots nonthumb n900 to check files | 21:22 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | readelf -s /bin/devlocktool |grep '^ *[0-9]*: [0-9abcdef]*[13579bdf] *[0-9]* FUNC' | 21:22 |
merlin1991 | hm best way to find all binaries on the fs? | 21:23 |
merlin1991 | also, does anybody have an idea which one of my n900s has -T on it? :D | 21:23 |
freemangordon | find -t=x? | 21:23 |
merlin1991 | when they are all powered down it's hard to know xD | 21:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | find $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /") | 21:24 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or sth like that | 21:25 |
merlin1991 | hm can only find a type for file there's not one for binary | 21:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | find $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g") | 21:26 |
freemangordon | yeah :( | 21:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# find $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g")|wc -l | 21:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | find: "/usr/sbin/gnu": No such file or directory | 21:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 1378 | 21:28 |
merlin1991 | hah found it a proper way | 21:28 |
freemangordon | unfortunately most if the .so files does not have x bit set | 21:28 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: ? | 21:28 |
freemangordon | how? | 21:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yep, .so was what occured to me as well this very moment | 21:28 |
merlin1991 | readelf -h | 21:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ?? | 21:29 |
merlin1991 | should be considerable cheap and does return 1 if not a binary | 21:29 |
merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: that should only print the elf header of the file (if htere is one) | 21:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: you don't want to check ALL files of your device? | 21:29 |
merlin1991 | well i'M bored? | 21:29 |
freemangordon | he wants ;) | 21:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 21:30 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: you could attach USB cable, so mydocs gets unmounted | 21:30 |
merlin1991 | or just rund umount ;) | 21:30 |
merlin1991 | s/rund/run/ | 21:30 |
infobot | merlin1991 meant: or just run umount ;) | 21:30 |
freemangordon | and you will have enough juice :P | 21:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: you should check if your method works for .so | 21:30 |
merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: it does | 21:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | then don't forget to |tee | 21:31 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: well, you could unmount and attach charger, but plugging usb cable is easier | 21:31 |
merlin1991 | hm if I have echo "something | tool#1 && tool#2 can I somehow have the piped stuff in tool#2 aswell? | 21:31 |
merlin1991 | s/"// | 21:31 |
infobot | merlin1991 meant: hm if I have echo something | tool#1 && tool#2 can I somehow have the piped stuff in tool#2 aswell? | 21:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | err wut? | 21:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tee --help? maybe? | 21:32 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 21:33 |
merlin1991 | I need the input left from the pipe in both tools right from the pipe | 21:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | named pipe | 21:33 |
DocScrutinizer05 | mkfifo | 21:34 |
merlin1991 | I'll need an example :D | 21:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | mkfifo /tmp/foobar | 21:34 |
DocScrutinizer05 | echo xyz | tee /tmp/foobar|tool1 &; cat /temp/foobar|tool2 | 21:35 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or the other way round | 21:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | mkfifo foobar | 21:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | cat foobar|tool2& | 21:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | echo xyz | tee foobar|tool1 | 21:37 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I forgot if you start with reading or with writing on a fifo | 21:38 |
DocScrutinizer05 | probably with writing as otherwise reading process wouldn't know which EOF is the right one | 21:39 |
merlin1991 | hm coming to think of it, it's actually not what I want :D | 21:40 |
DocScrutinizer05 | A process can open a FIFO in non-blocking mode. In this case, opening for read only will succeed even if no-one has opened on the write side yet, opening for write only will fail with ENXIO (no such device or address) unless the other end has already been opened. | 21:40 |
merlin1991 | I need to input the paths from find into readelf -h $FILE && readelf -s $FILE .... | 21:40 |
merlin1991 | I think I'll better user xargs + a scripts | 21:41 |
merlin1991 | s/scripts/script | 21:41 |
freemangordon | awk? | 21:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | or a temprary file with all your filenames fromn find | 21:41 |
merlin1991 | am I remembering right, that $0 is name of the running script? | 21:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 21:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | unless it's "bash" | 21:42 |
merlin1991 | what happens then? | 21:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bash -c myscript will have bash in $0 iirc | 21:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | generally $0 is the first lexem on cmdline | 21:43 |
freemangordon | haha | 21:43 |
freemangordon | readelf -A $FILE | 21:44 |
freemangordon | Tag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-2 | 21:44 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: , merlin1991 ^^^ | 21:44 |
merlin1991 | hah that soudns easier :) | 21:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 21:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and more sane | 21:44 |
freemangordon | well, that is binutils 2.22 | 21:45 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: try it on n900 | 21:45 |
merlin1991 | currently adding binutils to n900 | 21:45 |
freemangordon | from extras-devel? | 21:45 |
merlin1991 | from sdk repo | 21:46 |
freemangordon | ok | 21:46 |
freemangordon | works too | 21:47 |
* DocScrutinizer05 just wonders why he never seen this Tag_THUMB_ISA_use on the allegedly thumbified modest binary he hammered with all flavours of readelf and whatnot else | 21:47 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | I spend several hours on that until I gave up and concluded there's no proper way to find out of thumbification directly and verbatim | 21:48 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: NFC, but lemme check osso-gnome-vfs | 21:48 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: it says thumb1 on my t device | 21:49 |
merlin1991 | thumb2 on my thumb device | 21:49 |
freemangordon | which one? | 21:49 |
freemangordon | asso-gnome-fvs? | 21:49 |
merlin1991 | osso-gnome-vfs | 21:50 |
merlin1991 | but Tag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-1 is on all binaries I have | 21:50 |
freemangordon | damn :( | 21:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | AHAAA | 21:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 21:50 |
DocScrutinizer05 | well, I'm not completely braindamaged then | 21:50 |
freemangordon | so, back to scripting | 21:50 |
freemangordon | hehe | 21:51 |
merlin1991 | err this is getting interesting | 21:51 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: which one? | 21:51 |
merlin1991 | osso-gnome-vfs on my -testing device does not have the stuff that the grep results in anything | 21:51 |
merlin1991 | only on my -thumb device the grep has a result | 21:51 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: could you pastebin the result from readelf -s on your -testing device? | 21:52 |
merlin1991 | http://paste.debian.net/179521/ | 21:53 |
freemangordon | and ls -al of .so | 21:53 |
freemangordon | damn, maybe it is interworked :( | 21:54 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ | 21:54 |
merlin1991 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 339112 Apr 10 2012 /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0.1600.3 | 21:54 |
freemangordon | "Apr 10 2012" ? | 21:55 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: are you sure it is not on -stable branch? | 21:56 |
merlin1991 | ii mp-fremantle-community 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1 Community SSU package, includes latest fixes from Gitorious | 21:56 |
merlin1991 | wtf | 21:56 |
merlin1991 | it's not on T4 | 21:56 |
* merlin1991 headdesks | 21:56 | |
kerio | haha | 21:57 |
freemangordon | version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo4; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 / - Set by merlin1991 at 02:59 on Вторник 12 Юни 2012 | 21:57 |
* merlin1991 runs the update | 21:57 | |
merlin1991 | I feel silly now :P | 21:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I feel ghosty now | 21:58 |
merlin1991 | why ghosty? | 21:58 |
* DocScrutinizer05 ghosts himself | 21:58 | |
merlin1991 | hm wrong ham on the device | 21:59 |
merlin1991 | ah yeah I remember | 21:59 |
merlin1991 | I didn't update to T4 in order to be able to easily test palis patches | 21:59 |
merlin1991 | hm | 22:07 |
merlin1991 | find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 ./thumbtest.sh | 22:07 |
merlin1991 | with readelf -h $1 && readelf -s $1 | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ": [0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] " > /dev/null && echo $1 | 22:07 |
merlin1991 | in the script | 22:07 |
merlin1991 | that should work | 22:07 |
kerio | or just -exec | 22:08 |
kerio | :/ | 22:08 |
merlin1991 | exec not suitable here, since I need to execute a complex statement | 22:08 |
kerio | i mean | 22:08 |
kerio | -exec sh thumbtest.sh "{}" ";" | 22:09 |
merlin1991 | ;D | 22:09 |
merlin1991 | that's almost the same xD | 22:09 |
merlin1991 | but iirc busybox find has no -exec | 22:09 |
kerio | that's why you have /usr/bin/gnu early in your PATH | 22:10 |
kerio | like a doc | 22:10 |
merlin1991 | okay osso-gnome-vfs is now thumb | 22:11 |
kerio | and that's bad | 22:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | except messybox find doesn't support -exec | 22:12 |
DocScrutinizer05 | aah you already said that | 22:13 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: what is the result of readelf -A ? | 22:13 |
merlin1991 | thumb2 | 22:13 |
freemangordon | and for the others? thumb1? | 22:14 |
merlin1991 | yes | 22:14 |
freemangordon | so, after all we have a more human readable thumb2 criteria | 22:15 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: could you run that on libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0 | 22:17 |
freemangordon | i think it is in /opt/ | 22:17 |
merlin1991 | don't have it | 22:18 |
merlin1991 | gotta go for dinner, bbl | 22:18 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: "/opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins" | 22:19 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ ? | 22:20 |
DocScrutinizer51 | hm? | 22:21 |
freemangordon | could you run readelf -A against /opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins/ libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0 | 22:22 |
DocScrutinizer51 | that line is"mt c+p able | 22:23 |
DocScrutinizer51 | well could try deleting 'against' | 22:24 |
freemangordon | "readelf -A /opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins/libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0" | 22:24 |
DocScrutinizer51 | readelf: Error: ' /opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins/libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0': No such file | 22:30 |
DocScrutinizer51 | and that's the way I like it ;P | 22:31 |
merlin1991 | hm xargs doesn't like me today | 22:32 |
merlin1991 | or find | 22:34 |
merlin1991 | or busybox | 22:36 |
DocScrutinizer51 | fsck messybox | 22:38 |
merlin1991 | if I put an echo $1 into my script | 22:38 |
merlin1991 | and do a find . | xargs ./myscript | 22:38 |
kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i don't think fsck can fix it | 22:38 |
DocScrutinizer51 | ~messybox | 22:38 |
infobot | messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils | 22:38 |
merlin1991 | I only get the first line from find back | 22:38 |
DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: use tmpfiles | 22:40 |
merlin1991 | hah xargs -0n 1 | 22:40 |
DocScrutinizer51 | dang, no 10k lines prolly | 22:40 |
merlin1991 | silly though that I have todo that | 22:40 |
merlin1991 | okay it's running | 22:42 |
merlin1991 | and It's already getting odd | 22:42 |
merlin1991 | but it's finally running properly | 22:43 |
merlin1991 | find /usr /lib /bin /home -type f -print0 | xargs -0n 1 ./thumbtest.sh 2>/dev/null | tee thumbs.txt | 22:43 |
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merlin1991 | hm now that I think of it I should have pushed the current file to stderr so I see where it is :/ | 22:46 |
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merlin1991 | uh oh, a few in here are really bad | 22:47 |
DocScrutinizer51 | tee &2 | 22:47 |
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merlin1991 | http://paste.debian.net/179532/ | 22:48 |
freemangordon | HAM? | 22:50 |
merlin1991 | it's ham and gnomevfs | 22:50 |
freemangordon | why7 is that? | 22:50 |
merlin1991 | nfc | 22:50 |
merlin1991 | but it feels baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad | 22:50 |
kerio | oh god why | 22:50 |
* kerio installs kp51 RIGHT FUCKING NOW | 22:51 | |
kerio | Pali: PUSH IT GOOD | 22:51 |
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merlin1991 | kerio: I don't see the reason for that :D | 22:51 |
Pali | kerio, there are problems on autobuilder | 22:51 |
kerio | merlin1991: thumb errata workaround? | 22:51 |
Pali | it cannot compile kp51 | 22:51 |
merlin1991 | :D | 22:51 |
Pali | I will look at it later | 22:52 |
Pali | now compiling xbmc for rpi :-) | 22:52 |
* merlin1991 wonders if ham is a false positive or really thumb | 22:52 | |
Pali | (I cannot compile all at one time) | 22:52 |
merlin1991 | Pali: you got an rpi? | 22:52 |
Pali | merlin1991, yes | 22:52 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: 20.2010.36-2maemo14 (11.04.2011) was the last HAM update according to changelog | 22:52 |
merlin1991 | I finally managed to order one 2 days ago, thus yay anotehr 11 weeks | 22:53 |
Pali | I ordered in april and got it last week | 22:53 |
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merlin1991 | dang luf | 22:53 |
merlin1991 | hopping in and out | 22:53 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: besides HAM we have /usr/libexec/apt-worker.real too, i don't believe both are false positives | 22:55 |
merlin1991 | hm lemme recompile ham on my sb and see if it still detects it then | 22:56 |
freemangordon | "/usr/bin/maemo-confirm-text.launch" is part of HAM package too | 22:56 |
merlin1991 | yeah I know everything not osso gnomvfs is ham | 22:56 |
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Pali | merlin1991, can I push all my cssu patches packages to cssu-devel? | 23:00 |
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kerio | Pali: why not testing? :D | 23:01 |
merlin1991 | Pali: you can push whatever you want to to cssu-devel :) | 23:01 |
merlin1991 | it's meant to be living on the edge | 23:01 |
Pali | ok | 23:01 |
Pali | then I will push also problematic HAM | 23:01 |
Pali | then I will see what will do patched HAM if will be installed from *trusted* repository | 23:01 |
merlin1991 | btw Pali the patch to add cssu repos to trusted, was that part of the enabler or ham? | 23:03 |
merlin1991 | or both? | 23:03 |
Pali | of enabler | 23:03 |
Pali | only | 23:03 |
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merlin1991 | freemangordon: ham seems to be positive | 23:06 |
merlin1991 | my compile does not get detected | 23:06 |
kerio | shit, HAM is important | 23:06 |
kerio | why does it... work, though? | 23:06 |
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merlin1991 | because the problem with thumb is not that it always fails, but only from time to time | 23:07 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 23:08 |
merlin1991 | kerio: ie. modest in cssu has been thumb for quite a long time | 23:08 |
merlin1991 | it worked, quite well but had unpredictable crashes once upon a time | 23:09 |
kerio | merlin1991: yeah, and we see how that went | 23:09 |
kerio | quite well=slow as shit? | 23:09 |
merlin1991 | well it doesn't crash anymore but is still slow as shit :D | 23:09 |
merlin1991 | so there is no difference there :P | 23:10 |
kerio | ok | 23:10 |
kerio | so... fixing HAM is important, i feel | 23:10 |
merlin1991 | indeed | 23:10 |
kerio | will the update need HAM? | 23:10 |
kerio | that could be a problem | 23:10 |
merlin1991 | update can be done by apt-get aswell | 23:10 |
merlin1991 | but kerio there have been quite a few cssu updates since we introduced the broken ham, so you'll be able to apply this ham update with ham aswell :) | 23:11 |
kerio | hm | 23:11 |
kerio | hm | 23:12 |
merlin1991 | actually 19 updates since it came :P | 23:12 |
kerio | 19 updates of what kind? | 23:12 |
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merlin1991 | cssu updates in general | 23:12 |
kerio | well who gives a shit | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | broken ham came with 20.2010.36-2maemo14 (11.04.2011) and has been there ever since | 23:13 |
kerio | i always apply those with fapman anyway :3 | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | rofl | 23:13 |
kerio | which still has a fucking awesome name | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | hm I need to find another usb charger so I can charge my stable n900 aswell to see if there is any thumb stuff there (though I doubt that) | 23:16 |
merlin1991 | why is it that my n900s always run out of battery at the same time? | 23:18 |
merlin1991 | probably related to the fact that I usually charge them simultaniously :P | 23:18 |
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freemangordon | merlin1991: you have compiled all of the stuff in -stable, ain't? | 23:20 |
merlin1991 | yep | 23:20 |
merlin1991 | doing it just in case, I'm pretty sure I know why mags stuff was thumb and mine wasnt | 23:21 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 23:21 |
merlin1991 | when you install sb with the python installer it creates the target.ENVIRONMENT file | 23:22 |
freemangordon | yeah | 23:22 |
merlin1991 | which in turn sets DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to soemthing like mamemo-launcher thumb .... | 23:22 |
freemangordon | yep | 23:22 |
merlin1991 | and again some debian/rules files check for that "thumb" option | 23:22 |
freemangordon | yes | 23:22 |
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merlin1991 | hey luf | 23:25 |
freemangordon | luf: ping | 23:25 |
freemangordon | :D | 23:26 |
kerio | hmm... who can you guys blame for this? | 23:26 |
merlin1991 | nokia is at fault :D | 23:26 |
merlin1991 | they provide that fsckd sb installer | 23:26 |
merlin1991 | when the manufacturer provided sdk already works against you, what can you do? :D | 23:26 |
luf | Hello. | 23:26 |
merlin1991 | luf: you'll have to work on the libcurl patches a bit | 23:27 |
luf | freemangordon: pong :D | 23:27 |
luf | merlin1991: What's the problem? | 23:27 |
merlin1991 | I tried to actually build it today, and it does not build because of unmet dependencys | 23:27 |
luf | what dependencies? | 23:28 |
freemangordon | luf: hi | 23:28 |
MohammadAG | <merlin1991> when you install sb with the python installer it creates the target.ENVIRONMENT file | 23:28 |
MohammadAG | fyi, I use the shell scripts :p | 23:28 |
merlin1991 | luf: libgcrypt11-dev libidn11-dev openssh-server stunnel4 | 23:28 |
freemangordon | MohammadAG: why then you SB is screwed up | 23:28 |
MohammadAG | freemangordon, cause the sh scripts do that too I guess :P | 23:29 |
merlin1991 | I don't have a single .environment file :D | 23:29 |
luf | merlin1991: what about apt-get install? :) | 23:29 |
luf | ii libgcrypt11-de 1.5.0~svn1440- LGPL Crypto library - development files | 23:29 |
merlin1991 | luf: those are in extras | 23:29 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 23:29 |
merlin1991 | cssu must live from nokia ssu / sdk repo | 23:29 |
merlin1991 | thus either we can work around them or we need to include the libs into cssu | 23:30 |
freemangordon | luf: why do we need that? | 23:30 |
luf | It's only build dependencies ... | 23:30 |
luf | It's from debian build package. | 23:30 |
kerio | the more i read about maemo, the more it feels like a minefield | 23:30 |
kerio | for everything | 23:30 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: could you build libcurl3 without those? | 23:30 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: I have nfc | 23:31 |
luf | I'll try to remove this build dependencies and let you know ... | 23:31 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm, why don't you just edit debian/control? | 23:31 |
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kerio | btw, KP51 would've fixed this with no extra binaries | 23:32 |
luf | BTW are someone interested in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59114&page=35 ? | 23:32 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: because I want to know what happens if the lib is missing | 23:32 |
merlin1991 | just removing the dependency and hoping for the best is bound to backfire | 23:32 |
freemangordon | merlin1991: ok | 23:33 |
merlin1991 | luf: that's very interesting | 23:34 |
merlin1991 | I'm actually sitting on the code from the wiki page (obexd 0.37) | 23:34 |
MohammadAG | merlin1991, use -d | 23:34 |
MohammadAG | and see if it fails | 23:34 |
freemangordon | luf: why is that targeted to CSSU. Just asking for the reason, not saying it does not qualify. | 23:34 |
merlin1991 | but if your 0.46 works without sideeffect it's perfect | 23:35 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: bluetooth stack is a system lib | 23:35 |
merlin1991 | thus cssu | 23:35 |
freemangordon | aah, ok | 23:35 |
luf | I also tried to upgrade bluez but it has some problems I can't go through yet. | 23:35 |
freemangordon | luf: repo anywhere? | 23:35 |
luf | 0.46 has the the same buggy behaviour. But I hope it's fixed with eds patch. | 23:36 |
luf | freemangordon: I have no public www/ftp server :( | 23:36 |
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freemangordon | luf: gitorious/github ;) | 23:36 |
merlin1991 | MohammadAG: instafail :D | 23:36 |
luf | freemangordon: ok, I'll try it ... | 23:37 |
luf | freemangordon: but it's not very good for .deb files ;) | 23:38 |
merlin1991 | luf: see pm | 23:38 |
freemangordon | luf: I mean for the source code | 23:39 |
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luf | freemangordon: I'm working with patches so I can easiely upgrade to new debian updates ... | 23:40 |
freemangordon | luf: sure, but noone can contribute | 23:40 |
luf | freemangordon: noone contribute longer than year or too ;) | 23:41 |
luf | freemangordon: I understand. | 23:41 |
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luf | Ok. | 23:50 |
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luf | freemangordon: http://merlin1991.at/~luf/pbap/source/obexd/ | 23:59 |
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