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| Estel_ | freemangordon, You've opened thumb season. Whats now, for "normal" testers like me? | 01:15 |
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| Estel_ | i.e. should we get involved now, or not yet? | 01:15 |
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| freemangordon | Estel_: seems -mp package is missing, otherwise it should be ready for "normal" testers | 02:10 |
| freemangordon | will try to upload it tomorrow | 02:10 |
| Estel_ | OK | 02:10 |
| merlin1991 | doc is going to love this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220340&postcount=703 | 02:34 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: yeah | 02:39 |
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| Estel_ | no problem, I can ask when busybox-power will be included in CSSU | 02:52 |
| Estel_ | he will get so berseker, that he wont even notice other posts | 02:52 |
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| Lava_Croft | eh what | 14:10 |
| Lava_Croft | operator name widget in cssu? | 14:11 |
| Lava_Croft | oh boy.... | 14:14 |
| chem|st | Lava_Croft: not realy... | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | i shouldn't have spoken | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | im happy that the N9 i got a few weeks ago makes me stand a bit further from cssu drama:) | 14:19 |
| Lava_Croft | my bad to even mention anything | 14:19 |
| chem|st | Lava_Croft: it isn't the operator name widget like the program one from extras | 14:21 |
| Lava_Croft | i know | 14:21 |
| Lava_Croft | but to be very honest, im kind of on the side of "why include extra programs" | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | but like i said, i don't use my N900 as my main device at the moment | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | so my judgement on this isnt exactly a good one (if it could ever be;) | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | overall im just happy that CSSU is still moving | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | (i must say that the N9 certainly is no N900 :\) | 14:24 |
| chem|st | well screw it for stable! | 14:28 |
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| Lava_Croft | :) | 14:33 |
| Lava_Croft | I cant just let testing stand there out in the rain | 14:33 |
| chem|st | no I mean that cbs widget thing is good for testing nothing else | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | oh, yeah | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | totally | 14:37 |
| chem|st | and cbs is just useless anyway... easteregg is rotten | 14:37 |
| chem|st | the top3 providers in europe do not make use of it | 14:38 |
| chem|st | well telefónica uses it... | 14:39 |
| Lava_Croft | i just wondered why it was even included | 14:40 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: why was it included? | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | but i havent really been following CSSU stuff thats been happening :| | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | its tricky enough to follow all the harmattan stuff that goes around | 14:40 |
| Lava_Croft | i should stop working and just browse TMO and IRC all day | 14:41 |
| MohammadAG | chem|st: Ask merlin1991 | 14:41 |
| MohammadAG | Afaik it was stable according to him | 14:41 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: the question is not if it is stable the question is why it is in cssu | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah | 14:42 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: ^^ | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | no offense taken to it, really | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | but i am curious | 14:42 |
| Lava_Croft | i can imagine a certain person going mental over it | 14:42 |
| MohammadAG | chem|st: It doesn't introduce regressions and doesn't show CBS by default? | 14:42 |
| MohammadAG | Its just an open source operator widget replacement | 14:43 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: it does... | 14:43 |
| MohammadAG | First or second part? | 14:43 |
| chem|st | it forces to not have a custom widget | 14:43 |
| chem|st | and I do not have cbs available | 14:44 |
| MohammadAG | It doesn't? | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | im also not very fond of how it pollutes the settings screen | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | with its icon | 14:44 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: my provider screwed it years ago so did others | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | but, it seems latest CSSU works fine | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | my testing these days never exceeds playing an icecast stream in OMP, and that still works! | 14:45 |
| MohammadAG | It doesnt do anything to prevent a custom widget | 14:45 |
| MohammadAG | I'm proud of where OMP got | 14:46 |
| chem|st | it is on one hand another entry in my settings, with functions I never use and on the other it sacrifices the custom operator name widget I used 2 years now | 14:46 |
| MohammadAG | How | 14:46 |
| MohammadAG | The custom operator widget probably dies dirty moving | 14:46 |
| chem|st | cssu brakes the name widget | 14:47 |
| MohammadAG | Reinstall it | 14:47 |
| chem|st | on cssu upgrade it asked me to unsinstall | 14:47 |
| Lava_Croft | thats my problem, kind of | 14:47 |
| Lava_Croft | i didnt have any widget for it installed | 14:47 |
| Lava_Croft | yet now it did | 14:47 |
| MohammadAG | Stab whoever decided to conflict it | 14:47 |
| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: any plans to add some kind of confirmation/selection screen for packages like this? | 14:47 |
| Lava_Croft | in future cssu releases | 14:48 |
| chem|st | AND it uses the same name | 14:48 |
| Lava_Croft | so you could for example add stuff like OMP | 14:48 |
| MohammadAG | The same name as the stock widget | 14:48 |
| Lava_Croft | or is such stuff hardly possible with current systems | 14:48 |
| chem|st | the one from extras, not the package name | 14:48 |
| MohammadAG | I'm pretty sure that's incorrect chem|st | 14:48 |
| MohammadAG | what's the package name | 14:49 |
| chem|st | it reads operator name widget in settings instead of custom op name widget | 14:49 |
| chem|st | the package name has an additional cbs... | 14:49 |
| MohammadAG | And how the fuck is that the same | 14:49 |
| chem|st | it is missleading, as it is not custom nor name | 14:50 |
| chem|st | it is just cbs with logging of the same... | 14:50 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: do I see package names in my settings? | 14:50 |
| MohammadAG | What? | 14:50 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: you misunderstood | 14:51 |
| chem|st | the settings read operator name widget & custom operator name widget | 14:51 |
| chem|st | irritating enough to call both widget... | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | The problem is? | 14:52 |
| chem|st | why does it need to uninstall the latter, and why do I have no choice? | 14:53 |
| Lava_Croft | that actually might be part of the 'testing' side | 14:53 |
| Lava_Croft | that its installed without really asking you | 14:53 |
| MohammadAG | That's the problem of whoever wrote debian/control | 14:53 |
| Lava_Croft | i just would like a solution for such things, but who doesnt, i reckon | 14:53 |
| chem|st | ;) | 14:53 |
| MohammadAG | So ask jonwil | 14:53 |
| chem|st | why is it in cssu anyway? | 14:54 |
| chem|st | that's the point | 14:54 |
| chem|st | if it is so smooth and stable why isn't it just in extras like anything else | 14:55 |
| Lava_Croft | let's not forget to mention that the actual work that goes into it is not undervalued | 14:55 |
| chem|st | it is not replacing anything?! | 14:55 |
| MohammadAG | Cause It cant be in extras | 14:55 |
| MohammadAG | It is | 14:55 |
| MohammadAG | It's like modified h-d | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cbs-widget is a 100% candidate for cssu-optional | 14:56 |
| Lava_Croft | the CBS widget is in stock maemo5? | 14:56 |
| Lava_Croft | (i never saw one in here) | 14:56 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: +1 | 14:56 |
| Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer05: yes | 14:56 |
| Raimu | I have to admit to me "it pollutes my settings menu" is not a good reason for anything, but the other reasons are considerable. | 14:56 |
| Lava_Croft | Raimu: i think it is | 14:56 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: so why is there a custom operator name widget then? | 14:56 |
| Lava_Croft | there wasnt an icon for it before, but now there is | 14:57 |
| Lava_Croft | and it adds zero functionality for me | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | The operator name widget is stock | 14:57 |
| Raimu | Yes. | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | It doesn't allow changing text | 14:57 |
| merlin1991 | gotta love the rage | 14:58 |
| Lava_Croft | no rage over here, just curiosity :) | 14:58 |
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| Lava_Croft | anyone raging over CSSU should have its head examined | 14:58 |
| merlin1991 | also the "other" name widgets are done the bad way (TM) which shouldn't be in extras if some sense was applied | 14:58 |
| Raimu | People take their hobbies passionately. It's nothing new to mankind. | 14:58 |
| merlin1991 | also yeah optional is a point but no option curently | 14:59 |
| Lava_Croft | ill just ask it one more time, because im a bit thick | 14:59 |
| Lava_Croft | this operate name widget icon is present in stock maemo5? | 14:59 |
| Lava_Croft | since im almost 100% sure i never ever saw it before | 14:59 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/custom-operator-name-widget/0.1/ | 14:59 |
| Lava_Croft | in the 2+ years im using this n9000 | 14:59 |
| Lava_Croft | er n900* | 14:59 |
| MohammadAG | Exactly | 14:59 |
| MohammadAG | No | 14:59 |
| MohammadAG | chem|st: Your point? | 14:59 |
| MohammadAG | That package does dirty stuff | 14:59 |
| MohammadAG | The same as m-h-d | 15:00 |
| merlin1991 | Lava_Croft: the icon is new | 15:00 |
| Lava_Croft | merlin1991: but the functionality itself was there all along, just inaccesible? | 15:00 |
| merlin1991 | also I think there is a gconf key to set a custom name somewhere | 15:00 |
| Lava_Croft | ah, thats what i meant then | 15:00 |
| merlin1991 | Lava_Croft: the functionality is all new | 15:00 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: why is it needed in cssu? | 15:00 |
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| Lava_Croft | well, then i guess my own feelings about not liking this extra stuff in my settings screen are justified:) | 15:00 |
| MohammadAG | Sigh | 15:00 |
| Lava_Croft | but its fairly minor:) | 15:01 |
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| Raimu | Cell broadcast reading is something that most Nokia phones have had a discrete option for selecting pretty much always. | 15:01 |
| merlin1991 | Raimu: we have a patched stock lib to actually enable it | 15:01 |
| merlin1991 | + a gui to use it | 15:01 |
| Lava_Croft | im bad at math, but the math i do when looking at CSSU as a whole and this extra icon in the settings screen | 15:01 |
| Lava_Croft | i guess i can live with that | 15:01 |
| merlin1991 | before that the complete feature was impossible | 15:01 |
| Lava_Croft | but some cssu-optional would indeed be a great thing | 15:01 |
| Raimu | merlin1991: Yep, I recall. I tested the apparatus. | 15:02 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: so the cssu part is the patched lib! for what reason is the gui in cssu? | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the libsms though is clean for CSSU core | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I already took the blame for not noticing that fact | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (which is it introduces dependency collisions) | 15:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: nope, the widget isn't like m-h-d | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a system can operate without any such widget | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it couldn't work without any h-d | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for the lib the opposite rationale applies | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plus the libsms doesn't actually change anything except fix stuff | 15:02 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: because the gui can not live in extras since it depends on cssu stuff and stuff in extras can't do that | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Lava_Croft: there's a solution, I pushed it and merlin1991 and me already specified the design | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the fuck, am I connected via GPRS now??? | 15:03 |
| Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer05: not just because of this icon, but because of all the other packages that could reach an audience via this cssu-optional | 15:03 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the widget is 100% like m-h-d | 15:03 |
| Lava_Croft | that would be great | 15:03 |
| merlin1991 | in the sense that the package replaces a .so form another package | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ca. 50 posts in 2 seconds | 15:03 |
| Lava_Croft | hah | 15:03 |
| chem|st | merlin1991: just because of that fact I am forced to have it? | 15:03 |
| merlin1991 | chem|st: currently there is no way to properly do "optional" inside cssu | 15:04 |
| chem|st | ok | 15:04 |
| merlin1991 | though i'm working on that | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: nope, the .so is not the widget | 15:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or is it? | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :shrug: | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, it clearly is optional, as optional as e.g. screen orientation lock | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping | 15:10 |
| infobot | ~pong | 15:10 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the so is the widget ;) | 15:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | pfffooooh, already expected another poststorm | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | libsms.so is the widget? | 15:10 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 15:10 |
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| merlin1991 | operator-name-cbs-cpa.so is the widget | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 15:12 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait that's the cp widget | 15:12 |
| merlin1991 | connui-cellular-operator-home-item.so is the real one | 15:12 |
| Lava_Croft | wauw nice name | 15:13 |
| Lava_Croft | home-item is really good | 15:13 |
| Raimu | ... | 15:14 |
| merlin1991 | anyway I agree we should split it into 2 packages | 15:15 |
| merlin1991 | will see to that aswell | 15:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | regarding 100% look&feel compatibility we shouldn't add a setting button to menu (the cluttering argument is valid). Regarding 100% OS compatibility it should at least try to not fsckup custom-operator-widget. | 15:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (damn reconnects!) | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway it being a .so doesn't already qualify it for cssu-core | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | regarding 100% look&feel compatibility we shouldn't add a setting button to menu (the cluttering argument is valid). Regarding 100% OS compatibility it should at least try to not fsckup custom-operator-widget. | 15:19 |
| merlin1991 | I could care less about custom-operator-I'm-a-dirty-hack-widget but making the ui optinal fixes this as a sideeffect | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we need to think about our policy and POV regarding those "dirty hacks" though. After all they got invented becuase there's been no CSSU-extras | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so basically instead of bewildering those devels we should try to embrace | 15:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no reason to frown at dirty hacks that did on humble level what cssu does in a large scale | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | may we agree on: libsms.so belongs into cssu-core. cbs-widget as well as any cleaned version of custom-oper-widget belong into cssu-extras and should migrate to there as soon as possible. And cbs-widget won't go into S until it's optional | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah chanlog tells me you already agreed :-D | 15:33 |
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| luf | merlin+Ã+Ã1 ping | 20:07 |
| luf | merlin1991: ping | 20:08 |
| _freemangordon | М№ | 20:08 |
| _freemangordon | :) | 20:09 |
| luf | :D | 20:10 |
| luf | I hope I meet merlin1991 some day. It seems he doesn't look into archive or use some proxy bouncer. | 20:12 |
| luf | _freemangordon: What do you mean about curl. Keep it with same dependency or can I add krb and/or ldap dependency? | 20:13 |
| luf | Either krb or ldap lib has to be installed additional. | 20:14 |
| luf | What is cssu policy? :) | 20:15 |
| _freemangordon | luf: I am not sure I understand your question, but every piece of SF culr depends on, should be in CSSU if newer version is needed | 20:15 |
| _freemangordon | s/SF/SW/ | 20:15 |
| infobot | _freemangordon meant: luf: I am not sure I understand your question, but every piece of SW culr depends on, should be in CSSU if newer version is needed | 20:15 |
| _freemangordon | CSSU must not depend on external repo | 20:16 |
| _freemangordon | *repos | 20:16 |
| luf | And can be this libraries included into cssu? It's system libraries. | 20:17 |
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| freemangordon | that is the exact purpose of CSSU | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | system libs replacement/upgrade | 20:18 |
| luf | I use kerberos in several places and it's pitty that default curl is without krb support. | 20:18 |
| freemangordon | hmm, and who will benefit if krb support is enabled? | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | is there any SW to use that? | 20:19 |
| luf | I don't know if I want to do krb/ldap upgrade :) I only want to use it in libcurl3 as dependency => it has to be included in cssu (or libcurl3 without krb/ldap support). | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | sounds like a candidate for cssu-extras repo to be | 20:20 |
| freemangordon | but if libcurl3 depends on it, then there is no option but to include those in cssu as well | 20:20 |
| freemangordon | luf: it seems that these days merlin1991 is active in the evening, just hang on here, he will answer | 20:23 |
| luf | I can't find if something use krb. For sure it's in extras. | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | luf: is it a different source package? | 20:25 |
| luf | The last option is to have non-krb+non-ldap libcurl3 in cssu and krb+ldap libcurl3 in extras :) | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | hmm, that sounds sane | 20:25 |
| luf | curl is still the same it depends what I put into configure options (and into dependency). | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | I see | 20:26 |
| luf | Next option is to try to link the krb+ldap static into curl. | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | luf: but what is the benefit? | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | who will use it? | 20:32 |
| luf | I don't want to lie with dependency :D | 20:32 |
| luf | At least me :D | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | luf: but you have all the knowledge to build your own package :P | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ping | 20:45 |
| luf | freemangordon: Unfortunately you're right :) | 20:50 |
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| fw190 | freemangordon: ping | 21:01 |
| fw190 | see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220618&postcount=5 do you want me to flash and start from zero or you want to inwestigate what is wrong? | 21:02 |
| fw190 | ps. is there a channel for thumb or I should ask here? | 21:06 |
| luf | merlin1991: ping | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | fw190: better investigate first | 21:11 |
| fw190 | dang | 21:11 |
| fw190 | already started flashing | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | fw190: could you gimme the output of uname -a | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | damn | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | :) | 21:11 |
| fw190 | the phone was unusable | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | not critical though | 21:12 |
| fw190 | but I will install it again | 21:12 |
| fw190 | in a moment | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | fw190: after installation? | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | did it flash kernel-cssu? | 21:12 |
| fw190 | well the apps were closing | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | fw190: ^^^ | 21:13 |
| fw190 | hildon wasnt working as it should | 21:13 |
| fw190 | got disconnected | 21:13 |
| Raimu | freemangordon: I take it the thumb mp that emerged today just provides the things I've already installed, right? | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | Raimu: yep | 21:14 |
| Raimu | Everything has been working so far. | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | it is just hildon-home which is newer | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | (aligned to CSSU-Tv4) | 21:14 |
| fw190 | freemangordon: I will install the thumb on a clean system and report here how things are | 21:16 |
| fw190 | give me 15 minutes ;) | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | fw190: ok, don't forget to install latest CSSU-testing prior to installing -thumb | 21:20 |
| fw190 | freemangordon: ok just had the ltest nokia update no time for T after reboot | 21:20 |
| fw190 | ok just had the latest nokia update now time for T after reboot | 21:21 |
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| freemangordon | luf: did you clone CSSU curl? | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | luf: I think the best way to merge new curl in CSSU is to: | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | 1. clone CSSU repo | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | 2. fetch remote repo (wheezy or whatever) | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | 3. apply your debian/* stuff changer | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | 4. request a merge back to CSSU | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | that way we won't lose commit history | 21:38 |
| luf | I already clone the curl. And prepared curl-7.26.0. | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | luf: I dont see any clones of git@gitorious.org:community-ssu/curl.git | 21:39 |
| freemangordon | and you'd bwetter stay with the version that is in extras-devel, it is at least partially tested | 21:39 |
| luf | I mean clone to my notebook. Maybe I use wrong words. I know cvs and svn but not git. | 21:40 |
| luf | You mean that version from wheezy is not tested? :) | 21:42 |
| luf | BTW I'm testing it now for two days. | 21:43 |
| luf | It's few I know but ... | 21:43 |
| amiconn | Hmm, is 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo4 okay for installation or is there something that I should wait for before upgrading (from 3.1)? | 21:43 |
| freemangordon | luf, I mean the version you'd based the one in extras-devel | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | the same should be included in CSSU, at least for now | 21:44 |
| luf | I'm including it into devel, am I? | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | luf: WHAT? | 21:45 |
| luf | I prepare it better for cssu and later updates. | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | you are going to put a new version in extras-devel? | 21:46 |
| luf | There is no cssu-devel? | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | there is | 21:46 |
| luf | So I'll put it into cssu-devel. | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | luf: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/ | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | luf, you can't, that should be done by me or merlin1991 | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | and we will want source code on gitorious first (in CSSU repo) | 21:47 |
| luf | Yes. Ok you or merlin1991 will put the curl into cssu-devel. So what's the problem? | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | where is the source code | 21:47 |
| luf | It's fully tested by debian developers. And maemo is debian at all. | 21:47 |
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| freemangordon | it don't work like that | 21:48 |
| amiconn | "Not enough power" <- Eh, what? Battery is >50%... | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | luf: git is easy to be used, just a several commands | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | see my steps in backscroll, that is how it should happen according to me | 21:49 |
| luf | Ok then say me how new version of curl can be used? | 21:49 |
| luf | git is just series of step which lead to the same ;) Put the source into version control. | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | luf: but you have the history | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | i.e. it is better to have history in the CSSU repo whenever possible | 21:50 |
| luf | I'm talking about 7.25 and 7.26. | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | no, I am talking about 7.18.2-8maemo6+0m5+0cssu0 and 7.25 | 21:51 |
| luf | It's nearly no history. I tried it with 7.25 so I do more changes than necessery. | 21:51 |
| freemangordon | the commits between those 2 version should be in CSSU repo on gitorious | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | luf: maybe I am missing something, what do you propose? | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | i.e. what steps | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | ? | 21:52 |
| luf | I don't get the idea what you want and why. | 21:53 |
| luf | I get 7.26.0 - change the build files regarding to maemo and compile. | 21:53 |
| amiconn | Hmm, the screen contents during upgrade scared me a bit... but it seems to have worked | 21:54 |
| luf | All changes are in curl repositroy. | 21:54 |
| luf | Why to duplicate the repository with all commits? | 21:54 |
| amiconn | Except for my usual complaint - cssu upgrade *always* forgets to re-enable bluetooth | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | luf: the idea is to have the history between what is now installed with CSSU (7.18.2-8maemo6+0m5+0cssu0) and the next that will be installed (7.25-whatever-cssu-package-will-be-called) | 21:54 |
| luf | BTW 7.18.2-8maemo6+0m5+0cssu0 - has no specific patches related to maemo - or I don't see them. | 21:55 |
| luf | I will be away for 30 minutes ... | 21:55 |
| freemangordon | luf: because that is the procedure so far, while merlin1991 may agree on an exception | 21:55 |
| freemangordon | luf: ok | 21:55 |
| * amiconn wonders where he can find this operator name widget | 21:56 | |
| amiconn | The update listed it as "to be installed", but "add widget" doesn't offer it | 21:56 |
| fw190 | freemangordon: something is wrong- did a clean reflash, emmc + rootfs, instaled latest mameo and latest T then thumb and now when I try tu launch the terminal it hangs the system | 21:57 |
| freemangordon | fw190: which kernel does it boot? | 21:57 |
| tadzik | amiconn: it's in the settings | 21:57 |
| jon-kha | should uname -a still show 2.6.28.10-power50 after installation of cssu-thumb? | 21:57 |
| tadzik | it's not really a widget, and not really about the name | 21:57 |
| freemangordon | jon-kha: no, it should be 2.6.28.10-cssu1 | 21:58 |
| amiconn | Ah, thanks. In this case the naming is confusion | 21:58 |
| amiconn | *confusing | 21:58 |
| jon-kha | ok, for some reason installation didn't flash the kernel | 21:58 |
| fw190 | freemangordon: uname -r shows omap1 | 21:58 |
| fw190 | freemangordon: now x term worked I could do uname -r | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | fw190: WTF? then it is clear why you have the problems. Could you don apt-get install kernel-cssu kernel-cssu-modules kernel-cssu-flasher | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | s/don/do/ | 21:59 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: fw190: WTF? then it is clear why you have the problems. Could you do apt-get install kernel-cssu kernel-cssu-modules kernel-cssu-flasher | 21:59 |
| fw190 | and it stopped working | 22:00 |
| fw190 | stuck again | 22:00 |
| fw190 | ps. while instaling it dodnt tell me that new kernel will be isntalled | 22:00 |
| fw190 | didnt | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | fw190: well, flash cssu kernel if you can | 22:01 |
| freemangordon | something is wring with the dependencies, need merlin1991 to appear to help me | 22:01 |
| freemangordon | *wrong | 22:02 |
| fw190 | how to do that? launching HAM or x term makes the system stuck | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | hmm, that is bad. re-flash :( | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | rootfs only | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | and wait until I found what is the problem | 22:03 |
| amiconn | Hmm, no cell broadcast at T-Mobile Germany -> widget is useless | 22:04 |
| fw190 | freemangordon: no problem I will try to run HAM once again or use x term after rebbot- if this fails I will reflash | 22:06 |
| luf | freemangordon: can you be more specific what git command do you mean with: fetch remote repo (wheezy or whatever) | 22:23 |
| luf | I think I get it :) | 22:32 |
| freemangordon | luf: wait for merlin1991 to appear, I think he will explain it better than me | 22:34 |
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| chem|st | amiconn: we discussed that earlier, we agreed that it should be optional and not base, the replacement of the name-item on the other hand is | 23:06 |
| amiconn | I saw that, and I'm not complaining. Just noting that it's useless for me - it doesn't bother me | 23:07 |
| chem|st | amiconn: for most it is useless, some geeky providers send useful info over cell broadcast | 23:08 |
| chem|st | for germany, O2 uses it to notify the phones that they are in their homezone | 23:08 |
| chem|st | for all others it is service without income - not interesting | 23:09 |
| amiconn | O2 is the only provider in germany using cell broadcast at all. D2 and T-Mobile abandoned it, and e plus never supported it in the first place | 23:09 |
| chem|st | that sounds familiar... be careful with that site you have this from, some articles are very outdated | 23:11 |
| amiconn | Wikipedia (except the e plus info) | 23:15 |
| chem|st | applies for wikipedia too ;) | 23:16 |
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