IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Monday, 2012-06-04

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gregoamerlin1991: interesting. - and I have no idea what causes the problem. I've never seen this on a debian machine, and there's nothing suspicious with regard to binutils in /opt/var/lib/apt/lists/*merlin* at a quick glance00:16
merlin1991the really funky thing is that there is nothing regarding binutils in my repos :/00:17
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merlin1991DAT ROFL01:20
merlin1991gregoa: try it with extras-devel disabled01:20
gregoamerlin1991: no more warning. do you have an idea why?01:22
merlin1991bs upload to extras-devel?01:23
Estel_Yuo mean busybox, or bullshit?01:23
merlin1991ofc I mean bullshit01:23
merlin1991busybox if annything is mb aka messybox01:23
Estel_merlin1991, gc* was uploaded 5 or 6 days ago01:24
Estel_honestly, i like busybox for embedded development ;)01:24
Estel_anyway01:24
merlin1991Raimu/gregoa reported their problems with an "since a short while"01:24
gregoamerlin1991: yes, but which package? and: why does the warning only appear if one of your repos is enabled additionally?01:24
merlin1991conflicting provides/whatever bs in the package control files01:24
Estel_but gregoa isn't using glibc4.6, yep?01:30
gregoaEstel_: the warning appeared before I updated libc and friends01:31
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arceanthe problem is with binutils2.22 in Extras-devel01:39
merlin1991I don't understand why though02:12
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merlin1991guys, who drove the bus that did knock out Mag?16:16
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MohammadAGI disappear on weekends occasionally, start worrying if I don't come back17:53
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lufHi all. I have a question regarding curl. I updated the package to the debian testint curl-7.25.0 and created it in extras-devel (libcurl3 also in testing).20:53
lufI was pointed here as it should be part of cssu.20:53
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lufCan I become the maintainer and what rules you have for it? Is it ok for you to update curl to such version?20:54
lufI'm using this version in day to day usage. But I don't test it widely.20:54
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freemangordonluf, you appear in the exact moment :D21:04
lufwhy?21:05
freemangordonit seems that fore some reason curl prefers IPv6 name resolving to IPv4, leading to FB widget/upload plugin to fail21:05
freemangordonsee log on #maemo for the last 1-2 hours21:06
lufOk. I'll try. To be honest I'm newbie in irc ... so it takes me more time to see it.21:06
freemangordoncould you confirm that default for name resolving is CURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER21:06
Estel_luf, here You have logs21:07
Estel_http://wiki.maemo.org/IRC21:07
Estel_(for all #maemo channels)21:07
freemangordonluf, search for "[19:12] <freemangordon> WTF? Facebook DNS resolves to IPv6 address"21:07
Estel_luf, here You have exact link to start of conversation:21:09
Estel_http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-06-04.log.html#t2012-06-04T19:13:0621:09
Estel_BTW, luf, it's nice to - finally, see someone who updated those libcurl's, it was great mystery for me :)21:10
Estel_it's ncie that You want to maintain it in CSSU21:10
lufThanks I see it. How it's related to curl?21:10
Estel_although, as You see, it require bug hunting, + bug hunting, and wsome bug hunting then :p21:11
Estel_<freemangordon> could you confirm that default for name resolving is CURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER21:11
freemangordonfb widget/photo uploader uses curl to access FB API21:11
Estel_freemangordon suspects, that it preffer IPv6 over IPv421:11
Estel_causing one nasty plugin to fail, because it tries IPv^ on IPv4 enviromnent21:11
Estel_s/IPv^/IPv6/21:11
infobotEstel_ meant: causing one nasty plugin to fail, because it tries IPv6 on IPv4 enviromnent21:11
lufOk. And freemangordon think it's bug in CURL?21:12
freemangordonluf, it is not a bug21:12
lufBTW freemangordon what libcurl3 version are you using?21:12
freemangordonstock one, let me paste the exact one21:12
freemangordon7.18.2-8maemo6+0m521:13
freemangordonluf, I am not saying it is a bug, seems the "application" is buggy as it is not setting DNS resolving preferences and curl defaults to "use whatever can"21:14
freemangordonthe problem i it is closed source (although I REed one part of it)21:14
freemangordons/ i / is /21:15
infobotfreemangordon meant: the problem is it is closed source (although I REed one part of it)21:15
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freemangordonmerlin1991, ping21:17
lufHmm I get IPv4 using ping on my N900.21:20
freemangordonluf, me too, but it seems FB widget (library) does not set CURLOPT_IPRESOLVE, and it defaults to CURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER21:21
freemangordonand I am wondering is it a good idea to change the default21:22
lufSo you suggest some hack to detect if there is some IPv6 set?21:22
freemangordonluf, maemo5 userlan does not support IPv6 AFAIK21:23
freemangordon*userland21:23
Estel_OTOH, it would be sad to change upstream debian behavior jsut to comfort Fb plugin21:23
Estel_not yet :D21:23
Estel_Pali have almsot finished it21:23
freemangordonEstel_, have a better idea?21:23
Estel_freemangordon, either Re facebook more, or decide that it isn't worth longer pursuit. risk of breaking something such crucial as librcurl just to satisfy one ap would be a PREY for all CSSU haters21:24
freemangordon:D21:24
freemangordonyeah21:24
Estel_some things are fucked, and Yuo can't do much about it. Facebook, apple jack connectors...21:24
lufI think the hack to detect if there is some IPv6 address assigned is the best solution.21:24
Estel_it depends where this hack could be palced21:25
lufI don't think it's too risky.21:25
Estel_if on facebook plugin side/wrapper/whatever, it's ok21:25
lufIn libcurl.21:25
freemangordonluf, isn't it better to default to IPv4 name resolving?21:25
Estel_if inside curl, You udnerstand that eveyr new version would need, erm, attitude adjustment?21:25
lufCURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER - this should correctly detect what it can use.21:25
Estel_hey, lets jsut replace it with upload to zerobin21:26
Estel_many people would be happy, actually21:26
* Estel_ included21:26
freemangordonluf, I have NFC how curl decides what DNS query to send21:26
luffreemangordon: no from my point of view for the future.21:26
freemangordonand why it prefers IPv6 over IPv421:26
lufI take a look inside the code,21:27
Estel_freemangordon, in meantime, have You noticed, that basically everyone whinning about kernel-power being evil is 99,99%-100% inactive @ maemo?21:30
Estel_Usually, you won't find such things in TMO, as people there usually *use* device ;) (pun intended)21:30
Estel_but her eon IRc, many "old timers", that keep n900 for sake of it, or don't use it at all for any real purpose, let's put alone development21:31
Estel_...but eveyr such person got something fresh&fancy to say about kp21:31
freemangordonEstel_, in meantime I am trying to find why my feedservice-plugin-fb-common FOSS replacement segfaults when frees the memory :D21:31
Estel_:D21:31
luf:D21:32
Estel_cleptomaniac, probably21:32
* Estel_ in meantimes is trying to find WTF about GPIO on wrt54GL linksys, when running kernel 2.621:32
luffreemangordon can you test the latest libcurl3 from extras-testing?21:33
lufI'm just curious :)21:33
freemangordonluf, do you have FB account?21:33
Estel_luf, I use libcurl from devel21:33
Estel_ahh, but in conjuction with facebook. not me, sorry21:34
freemangordonEstel_, but you sais you don't have FB21:34
freemangordon*said21:34
freemangordonyeah21:34
Estel_but if You will ever try to port/RE anything KLOUT related to N900, I swear, I will kill you (cybernetically)21:34
freemangordonKLOUT?21:35
freemangordoncloud?21:35
Estel_http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/klout.png21:36
Estel_sadly, it's about real thing21:36
Estel_not xkcd pun21:36
Estel_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klout21:37
freemangordonaah,ok21:38
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lufEstel_ ok, testing has same version as devel.21:41
freemangordongreat, reason for segfault found, now we have a (working?) FOSS rewrite of feedservice-plugin-fb-common :P21:47
Estel_nice :) but it still uses IPv6?21:52
freemangordonyep :D21:52
merlin1991freemangordon: pong21:57
freemangordonmerlin1991, see the backlog, seems we have a new CSSU volunteer :)21:58
merlin1991yes21:58
merlin1991err21:58
merlin1991yay21:58
lufThe problem is that you have IPv6 address ono N90021:58
lufLet's try ifconfig -a21:58
merlin1991don't have my n900 around :/21:58
lufcurl test if IPv6 working ...21:58
merlin1991also freemangordon you pinged me?21:58
lufN900# ifconfig -a21:58
luflo        Link encap:Local Loopback21:58
luf          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.021:58
luf          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host21:58
freemangordonmerlin1991, yep21:58
freemangordonluf, yeah, same here21:59
freemangordonluf, which kernel do you use?21:59
freemangordonmerlin1991, luf asked how to add curl to CSSU22:00
merlin1991present rationaly as to why we need the update, proof it doesn't brake stock maemo, be maintainer22:00
merlin1991 I guess that is the way to go22:01
luffreemangordon: 2.6.28.10-power5022:02
freemangordonhmm, will try to disable ipv622:02
lufmerlin1991: sha-2 support, many security fixes22:02
lufmerlin1991: what proof is enough? It's several weeks in extras-testing.22:03
merlin1991well so far we assumed good faith and just tried to ship stuff with cssu :D22:04
lufmerlin1991: I have no problem with my N900 for I think 2 month using it.22:04
freemangordonmerlin1991: cssu-devel shyould be the way to go22:06
freemangordon*should22:06
merlin1991btw luf it would be great if you could compile a list of security fixes / big changes from the memo libcurl to upstream or whatever you used22:06
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lufmerlin1991: I get curl source deb from wheezy and just change the debian subdir (mainly control)22:14
lufI saw that maemo 7.18.X has some things backported from newer versions.22:16
luffreemangordon I see no way to change curl to be ok with the FB22:17
lufThe only way is to disable IPv6 support at compile time.22:18
freemangordonluf: could we change the default for IPRESOLVE? In curl_easy_init for example?22:18
freemangordonBTW blacklisting ipv6 module don't help22:19
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luffreemangordon: did you reboot the N900?22:22
freemangordonluf: after blacklisting? of course22:23
luffreemangordon: we can change the default but it's not a win.22:23
lufIt disallow to use FB on IPv6 net.22:23
freemangordonluf: hmm, i will install curl from extras-devel, lets see22:24
luffreemangordon: I think no change.22:24
tadzikanyone using mapsi?22:28
luffreemangordon: ifconfig returns no ipv6 ip?22:28
freemangordonluf, actually we're in :P22:28
lufWhat?22:29
freemangordonwith curl from extras-devel22:29
freemangordonyah22:29
freemangordon*yeah22:29
freemangordon:D:D:D22:29
freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^22:29
lufSo disable ipv6 and curl from devel/testing fix the problem? Goood.22:29
freemangordonlet me unblacklist ipv6 and try again22:29
merlin1991freemangordon: in with your fb lib?22:30
freemangordonstock one, going to try mine in a couple of minutes22:31
freemangordonmerlin1991 ^^^22:31
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freemangordonbut yeah, it is definitely the curl who's to blame22:32
merlin1991dat rofl22:32
merlin1991does it still work with ipv6 not blacklisted22:32
freemangordonrebooting22:32
lufIt's like horror. I don't know if I want to see the result :D22:33
freemangordonaccount setup completed successfuly22:34
freemangordonipv6 enabled22:34
freemangordonlet me try to upload a photo22:34
merlin1991all your work for nothing xD22:34
freemangordonmerlin1991, why? 480 lies of source code, I don't see a problem to put that in CSSU. And have in mind access token renewal ;)22:35
freemangordon*lines :D:D:D22:35
RaimuOne of those epic typos.22:36
freemangordonyeah22:36
luffreemangordon: it's like some serie ... too long. Wrote if it works or not :D22:36
freemangordonhttp://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=3208055410443&set=a.1294670977028.2036500.1537931068&type=1&theater22:37
freemangordonNFC if you can see it, but it is there22:37
freemangordona total win, thanks a lot luf22:38
luffreemangordon: ifconfig shows you the IPv6 addresses too?22:38
freemangordonlo        Link encap:Local Loopback22:39
freemangordon          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.022:39
freemangordon          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host22:39
freemangordonFB widget works too22:40
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freemangordonjacekowski: check the logs for the last 30 minutes or so22:41
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lufSo what's the way to put it into cssu-dev :)22:43
freemangordonhmm, good question :D22:43
freemangordonmerlin1991 ^^^22:43
freemangordonluf, do you have TMO account?22:43
lufNo idea what is TMO :)22:44
freemangordonaah, great22:44
freemangordonhttp://talk.maemo.org22:44
freemangordon:P22:44
lufI have.22:44
merlin1991ITT ;)22:44
jacekowskiwell i don't really see the problem in first place, facebook apps are for addicts, and we shouldn't support addictions22:44
freemangordonWHAT?22:44
freemangordonand who is to decide which SW is not needed anymore?22:45
freemangordonmeh22:45
freemangordonluf, care to share it?22:46
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lufShare what?22:47
freemangordonyour TMO account name22:47
lufluf ?22:47
lufI'll check.22:47
lufSure. luf :)22:48
freemangordonaah, ok :)22:48
luf:D22:48
luffreemangordon: Isn't the difference only in DNS cache?22:49
freemangordonwell, merlin1991, it is you and MohammadAG from now on :P ( re luf and curl)22:49
lufCan you try again the older libcurl3?22:49
freemangordonluf, which difference?22:49
lufWorking FB - old curl x new curl (after reboot - clean DNS cache).22:50
freemangordonluf, no, it is not that22:50
freemangordonAnd btw I am not sure if n900 maintains DNS cache22:50
lufOk, just a question to prevent too early celebration :D22:51
lufN900# ps axf | grep dnsmas22:51
luf 1506 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq -k -i lo -a 127.0.0.1 -z22:51
freemangordonthis crap does not work since 15th of May or something ;)22:51
lufSure it does :)22:51
lufOk.22:51
freemangordonnot only on my device, there are several threads on TMO about the problem22:51
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chem|sto/22:59
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freemangordonluf: in order a package to enter extras-testing it just need a promotion from the developer, while it is a little different with cssu-testing. In short CSSU team should assume a package STABE to enter cssu-testing23:18
freemangordon*STABLE23:18
freemangordoni.e. no known bugs23:18
chem|st+123:20
freemangordonand once a package is in CSSU-testing it passes a "quarantine", i.e. it may enter cssu-stable only if there are no problems for a month or two23:20
chem|stdebian way? 15 days unstable without errors proceeds to testing?!23:20
DocScrutinizer05o/ chem|st23:21
freemangordonchem|st, well, -devel repo is relatively new, still no hard procedure23:21
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: mooo! how is work?23:21
DocScrutinizer05YAAAWN23:21
chem|sthehe23:21
DocScrutinizer05almost 5h done23:21
chem|styou asked for it23:21
chem|st:D23:22
DocScrutinizer05and still wasted23:22
DocScrutinizer05I'm not exactly feeling any better than this noon ;-D23:22
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: well I feel like shiate today23:23
* chem|st posp another beer...23:23
DocScrutinizer05anyway, if it wasn't for the next modem for community (at least that's what I love to think and believe)23:23
DocScrutinizer05LTE, up to 100Mb downstream, and should be way less powerhog than UMTS23:24
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DocScrutinizer05you know TI blaze?23:25
DocScrutinizer05my test platform for the module23:26
DocScrutinizer05that's why I have to touch andidiot now XP23:26
DocScrutinizer05google for caif_hsi.c and you see some abominations I have to deal with in work23:27
DocScrutinizer05or simply look here and tell me what you think of that http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/net/caif/caif_socket.c#L37723:28
chem|stI don't know it but I know what it is23:29
chem|stif I'd know it I would make mobilephones...23:29
chem|stand tablets and not atmoprobe tomography23:29
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chem|stluf: freemangordon at least uploads work fine (still)23:30
freemangordonluf: seems merlin1991 is busy right now, usually he is much more "cooperative". Just hang here (when you have free time), and ping him or MohammadAG. These guys are the maintainers and they should make the decision on how curl will neter CSSU23:32
freemangordon*enter23:33
freemangordonchem|st, good, lets run it for a couple of days to see how it will develop :)23:33
luffreemangordon: Ok thanks.23:33
lufThe source for libcurl3 7.25.0-1 is on extras-devel/testing if someone is interested in. And there is also mail contact to me if I don't hang :D23:35
freemangordonluf: you'd better hang if you want to be a part of the CSSU team ;). All of us do it :P23:36
luffreemangordon: understand23:39
luffreemangordon: I see in log I don't answer you about FB account. For sure I have no FB account and I don't want to have one :D23:46
freemangordonLOL23:46
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